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Responding to Disinfo Trolls and the Architects and Engineers Press Conference at COTO Report

Michael Collins posted, at COTO Report, a video of the Victoria BC 9/11 folks giving a press conference, with engineer Werner Simbeck reading the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth press release. At the end, Werner gave an interview. We had marvelous coverage from a local mainstream cable TV station. This material has been posted in a couple blogs on 911 Blogger. I am part of the Victoria group, so have a particular interest in this.

The link to COTO Report is: http://coto2.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/911-architects-engineers-new-investigation-now/

The video is under attack by someone I suspect is disinfo troll (or a group), or perhaps just a psuedo-skeptic. It is someone who clearly invested considerable time in looking at our material in order to trash it.

Originally I had this information posted below as a comment at this site, but wish to elevate it to the status of a blog.

It is not clear how to tackle psuedo-skeptics or disinformation trolls, nor how to readily distinguish one from the other.

YEY!!! Nico censorship is withdrawn.

YEY!!

911blogger reversed its decision to censor the local blog

http://www.911blogger.com/blog/148

of Nico Haupt, a.k.a. ewing2001.

Nico is baaaaack..!!!

Read the details: http://www.911blogger.com/node/3701

more blogs by Nico:

http://911tvfakery.blogspot.com

http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001

Nico was protrait by the biggest german news-magazine DER SPIEGEL

its like Michael Ruppert had been featured in TIME MAGAZINE

Google-translated:

"Der Spiegel" 30 May 2002

11 September: The conspiracy theoretician

By Carsten Volkery, New York

When US president George W. Bush got pressure recently because of possible foreknowledge of the terrorist attack, Nico Haupt was not in the slightest surprised. After all, since 11 September, the in New York living German works on uncovering the alledged government plot.

Carsten Volkery Nico Haupt: US Government consciously looking in another direction

New York - Nico Haupt is worried about his reputation. “I am not a conspiracy theoretician”, he assured again and again -, as if he must convince himself, in order not to become mad. He sits in a Café on the Fifth Avenue, from its mouth gushes the facts. Numbers, name, places. After few minutes is clear: This humans read everything, what was ever published over 11 September 2001. Like a possesed person the under-emplyed ex-Düsseldorfer collects since over eight months agency messages, studies testimonies, compares lists, makes time-lines. Ten hours on the day it is on-line, all search machines sets it on the goal: What is really passed on that day? What knew the Bush government? Who is behind the Insider Trading before the notice? From where did Anthrax letters come? Head (..Nico's last name 'Haupt' means 'Head' in english..) on its web page ourdna.org listed the 500 most important open questions. “I place the questions, the Mainstream media forgotten”, say he. He sees himself as banner carrier of a gone down investigative journalism, but which he keeps ready by answers, are wild theories about secret agents, backers and dark government channels. The countless information from the terror sump joined itself in its head to a tremendous, not always conclusive thing. Its main thesis: With the terrorist attack from 11 September act it around a “Lihop”, briefly for “Let it happen on PUR-float”. Which is put in the public as failure of the secret services, in truth a conscious way looking of the government was, says head. The war against the Taliban is planned for four years. Pentagon and CIA would have used only one cause. After the fall of the Islamics now finally the long planned oil pipeline in Afghanistan can be built - completely after the taste of the Bush friends in the oil industry. An American president, who ungerührt airplanes to the World trade center fly lets? Head nods and looks swearing to over the table: “That is not Freak Shit, which I tell here.” From the defensive it shoots with questions around itself: Why for example would struggle-high Pentagon coworkers have painted their flights on 10 September for the next day, how “Newsweek” had reported? Or why did the emergency aids of the Federal Emergency management Agency (Fema) already arrive on the day before the disaster in New York? FP/DPA 11 September: At 9.03 o'clock races a machine United Airlines into the south tower. With its opinion is not head alone. At least hundred Websites - with names such as whatreallyhappened.com or truthout.org - encourage themselves mutually in the “Lihop” - hypothesis. The CIA critic of many years Mike Ruppert, a former copilot made of Los Angeles, published even a video. Title: “Truth and read OF 9-11”. Together the Websites formed a “ring of the Skeptiker”, says head. They wrote a Petition to the congress, in which they demand an investigation. To the proof, to which the Pentagon is able, the “Skeptiker” refers Northwood” gladly to the “operation: The recently published secret plan from the year 1961 planned to shoot American passenger airlines over Cuba and to push the debt Fidel Castro into the shoes. The Pentagon looked at that time for a pretext to intervene in Cuba. President John F. Kennedy rejected the suggestion however. With the Durchforsten of the message world head adheres to the two fundamental convictions of all conspiracy theoreticians. First of all: The CIA is never ohnmächtig, but always all powerful. It lets the terrorists dance, in reverse. And secondly: Official announcements, as for instance new terror warnings, are not information, but disinformation. ““As”, if I already hear that, I laugh been reported from secret service circles, say myself dead” head. Its Paranoia goes so far that he believes hardly a message since 11 September. John Walker, that allegedly to the Taliban overflowed American traitors? Breaking into, which was thrown to the media, so that they which beautiful to write had. Daniel Pearl, allegedly of terrorists murdered “Wall Street Journal” - reporters? A clear case of a investigativen journalist, who had to be made mouth dead - by the secret service of Pakistan ISI, under control of the CIA. Richard Reid, the alleged shoe bomber? “The largest shit.” That was produced by the ISI, and Pearl has it rausgefunden. Head is in full swing. With its long arms wildly gestikulierend it talks in rises up itself. “Nobody in the Mainstream media writes, why Don C fell. Wiley of the bridge.” The tie carriers, which press their Lunch at the Nebentisch, look over here. Wiley was a virus expert of the Harvard University, which was found dead past December in the Mississippi. Officially its fall was represented as accident. Head however sees a sample: Six micro biologists died since emerging the Anthrax letters. They would possibly have known, who sent the letters. The fact that 11 September and Anthrax belong together does not stand for it except question German Press Agency more for than 2800 humans died in the rubble of the World trade center of head development to the full-time conspiracy theoretician ran straight-lined: Differently than the type of ideal of this environment it was before neither with the CIA nor at the police. Also it did not sight Ufos yet. It buildup in Duesseldorf, was ten years long moderator of a local radio ending (“Ecstasy”, later renamed in “net herb”). 1993 he already discovered Internet. Since it may call itself 1996 diploma medium paedagogue, which it is however embarrassing. 1998 it created the regional organization of chance in North Rhine-Westphalia 2000, the fun party of Christoph Schlingensief. On the national list for the election to the Bundestag head was even leading candidate, he stood on the same Wahlzettel as Franz Müntefering, Guido Westerwelle and Norbert Bluem. Before three years he came to New York, “because of the Internet situation at that time”. It called itself net artists (to its “projects” among other things the electronic Schreddern of the Big Brother web page counted) and worked for Josh Harris at Pseudo.com, that in the meantime failure gone first Internet television station. From time to time it wrote Telepolis” and the German magazine for Cyberkultur, “De for on-line magazine “: Nose”. Now it pierces itself with casual labours as a programmer. Carsten Volkery theoretician head: Not on 11 September then he found his new mission to information, but disinformation. At 8.51 o'clock it posaunte out the message on its web page - few minutes after the first airplane was hit. “I was one first, those the passenger lists from United Airlines and American Airlines down-loaded.” But soon the first questions arose. Since that time it developed its Website to the Skeptiker portal and lost themselves completely in the Cyber Gerüchteküche. When the Bush government granted scarcely two weeks ago preliminary warnings to have received head saw itself confirmed. With each new FBI exposure its heart strikes more highly. “We are about to write democracy history.” At the end, he is convinced, becomes all rauskommen - may always be which. First it must fight however still the newest nebula candles Pentagon: Since the public criticism at president Bush is suddenly the corpse of Daniel Pearl emerged, became known that Osama Ben Laden lives, New York was at one time again in danger. In head eyes of everything very suspiciously: “We may not rest ourselves.”

Michael Shermer is 95% Hot Air on the WTC Collapses

Has anyone noticed that there is a new "911 Truth Denier" phrase floating around?
It goes somethng like this: "The WTC Towers collapsed vertically because they were 95% air".
I realize it is hard to believe anyone would use this "reasoning", even government shills.
However, here is one example of it's use, from a recent+article+by+Michael+Shermer+in+Scientific+American: "Conspiricists argue that the buildings should have fallen over on their sides, but with 95 percent of each building consisting of air, they could only have collapsed straight down."

I believe the "95%" claim was originally made by Thomas Eager in this paper,.
and then parroted by Shermer and others, such as here.

This statement, of course, is not only meant to explain a vertical collapse, but also to imply that the towers were somehow insubstantial. It is a ridiculous, obvious shill tactic, transparent to anyone with two brain cells to rub together. Whover uses this idiotic phrase needs to be called on it by the 911 truth community immediately.

Joshua Frank Adds His Name to the Shills List

This list is getting longer by the minute. At some point it becomes prudent to ask whether these left gatekeepers (Chomsky, Cockburn, Pitts, et al.) are being paid off in cash or scared off by anthrax? What else could possibly explain the lock step tone and tenor of this sudden deluge of "9/11 Truth Movement" hit pieces? In this latest installment, we are accused of ignoring "reality".

Eventhough Mr. Frank concedes that many unanswered questions remain, he somehow makes the leap that no possible answer "would ever indicate the US government was behind the (9/11) bloody affair". But he accuses "us" of being disconnected from "reality"?

Mr. Frank goes on to accuse the Truth Movement of "willfully ignoring that we’ve got real wars going on in the Middle East right now", never once making the connection that 9/11 was the "new Pearl Harbor" upon which these real wars were launched.

There is a saying that "ignorance is temporary, but stupid is forever". In Mr. Franks case, it's six in one hand, half dozen in the other, in as much as his column is among the most stupidly ignorant that I have read in a long time. Believe me... that's saying alot!

Unfortunately, with the increasing level of instability being displayed by Bush and his administration, we are all living in a new "reality" that is becoming increasingly dangerous to ignore.

Columnist Leonard Pitts Joins the Ranks of Government Shills

National Columnist Leonard Pitts Joins the long list of government apologists and shameless shills with his latest column casting those who would have the temerity to question the "official record" as nothing more than "rote rejectionist" incapable (or perhaps unworthy) of "honest debate".

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Posted on Fri, Sep. 15, 2006
IN MY OPINION

Just the facts . . . at least as we know them

BY LEONARD PITTS JR.
lpitts@MiamiHerald.com

I beg your pardon.

Apparently I made a major error of fact in a recent column. It turns out, contrary to what I wrote, there never was a Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attack on the United States. It wasn't hijacked airliners that brought down the twin towers of the World Trade Center. Nor did any airplane plow into the Pentagon. Nor did United Flight 93 come to Earth in a field in Shanksville, Pa. Rather, this tragedy was staged by the U.S. government in order to dupe the nation into an oil war in the Middle East.

Or at least so I am told by a surprising plurality of readers. Add to that Hugo Chávez, president of Venezuela and renowned loose cannon, who said in a speech Tuesday it's possible the U.S. government had a hand in attacking itself on Sept. 11.

9/11 paranoia breeds nutball conspiracy tales

**THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE APPEARED 9/10/06 IN THE MIAMI HERALD**

9/11 paranoia breeds nutball conspiracy tales
BY FRED GRIMM
fgrimm@herald.com

The Democratic nominee in Florida's 15th congressional district maintains a website outlining positions on abortion, border security, gay marriage and beach renourishment (''We must do it smarter'') that wouldn't strike anyone as political paranoia.

But Robert Bowman, who won Tuesday's primary with 54.5 percent of the vote, offers a treatise on 9/11 that could serve as a manifesto for conspiracy theorists. ''If they have nothing to hide, why are they hiding everything?'' the nominee asks.

Sept. 11 theorists generally tend to obsess with one explanation or another of those shattering events. Some proffer a theory that CIA agents had stoked the World Trade Center with explosives. (The airliners were just a ruse.) Others claim a cruise missile, not a commercial airliner, hit the Pentagon. Others claim Flight 93 was shot down over Pennsylvania by our own military jets.

HIJACKERS ALIVE?

Bowman embraces the whole mad smorgasbord. And he adds the notion some of the hijackers have been spotted since 9/11, ''alive and well.'' He dismisses al Qaeda attempts to take credit. 'Why does the `Osama bin Laden' in the 'confession' videotape have a nose about an inch shorter than the real Osama bin Laden?''