comments posted September 20, 2011 at
Magazine of the life sciences
News & Opinion
The Toll of 9/11
People exposed to the dust cloud from the World Trade Center collapse still suffer from health problems
By Tia Ghose | September 11, 2011
My comment posted September 20, 2011:
Strangely, it is not asked what caused nearly everything but the steel to turn to unusually fine dust, the concrete, the office equipment including filing cabinets computers, and desks, and even the personnel.
Posted by sakerfa on June 20, 2010
(SOTT) – Any theory that does not match experiment is wrong. It doesn’t matter what the computer models predict, how much funding is behind it, what the experts say, or what everyone “thinks”. Nothing can fool the laws of physics.
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In 1972 Pyronol.RTM. was patented
"A suitable container may be of the one described in co-application Der. No. 74,434 filed Sept 22, 1970, entitled "Incendiary Torch" by Horace H. Helms, Jr. Alexander G. . . . The material is sealed into said container, which in this case is a torch, is ignited . . . When the pressure inside the container exceeds the strength of the diaphragm the diaphragm fractures and the expanding gases will force the molten material through the nozzle. . . . Alternatively one may add a material to the instant composition which will decompose into a gas or vaporize into a gas when exposed to the heat . . . such as powdered polytetrafluoroethylene (Teflon) or other solid materials."
In 1989 a patent was given for a device used to demolish submerged platforms.
(So how did I do? Heavy constructive criticism is most welcome!)
This is the first of three YouTube videos of the June 30, 2009 PowerPoint presentation I gave for my CHEM 1411 class at South Texas College (STC). The subject was on thermite and thermate and how each of their respective nano-sized variants may have contributed to the collapse of World Trade Centers 1, 2, and most especially, 7.
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The photo with the angled cut column has somehow taken on an almost mythical status amongst some people in the 9/11 movement. In this short video I explain that it's not evidence of thermite and how it could very well have been done by cleanup crews with a thermic lance.
So, let's look at some real evidence of explosives on the core columns. Gordon Ross' theory, in which concussion charges are placed against the welds of the thickest core columns, explains exactly what we see in the pile; column ends that are bent, broken and exploded. You can watch his presentation on YouTube (part 1, part 2, part 3).
Demonstrating that the WTC was demolished using side-by-side before & after streaming video comparisons
I have a hard time explaining to people in words why the aftermath of the World Trade Center collapse can only be explained by the use of explosives; nothing else could have pulverized the buildings so quickly and thoroughly. Since most people need to see something (rather than hear it) in order to process it fully, I put together this page where you can play close-up videos of the Twin Towers in all their enormity simultaneously side-by-side with videos shot at ground zero in the immediate aftermath. I think this can effectively demonstrate to people that the scale of the demolition was beyond what gravity could do by itself.
The Truth Sign is up again after its debut at this year's Burning Man. It now lives on its temporary home on a ranch in Marin County California. We plan to do further experiments with cutting thick structural steel, including using an new thermate cutter charge to slice through a piece of 2" thick plate steel...similar in thickness to the structural steel used on World Trade buildings 1 & 2. We will keep you posted about this event. We are also working on our short TruthBurn video documentary about why the sign was built. Plans include contacting various outdoor galleries to host the sign. The video, once completed, will accompany the sign. Dr. Steven jones has been using burnt thermate samples from our Burning Man event to compare to WTC thermite residue. The similarities are astonishing.
For more, please visit http://911TruthBurn.blogspot.com
Just got this in from Dr. Jones.
Dr. Jones said he used these comparisons (images) in a recent lecture in Connecticut
Here's an interesting link about a defense contractor that makes linear charges for the military. Their other products are interesting to look at.
and this re: nano-explosives as applied to nano-composite exothermic reactions
Excerpt from link -
Scientists at Texas Tech University made a nanocomposite of
aluminum and iron oxide (Fe2O3) that reacts exothermically when
ignited. The material could have applications in explosives or
as an energy source in micro-electro-mechanical systems devices or
in space. The researchers made a honeycomb-like alumina template by
electrochemical anodization of an aluminum foil in an acid. They
were able to tailor the diameter of the template’s pores by
altering the voltage and the acid used, producing pores between
10 and 150 nanometers (nm). The team then electrodeposited iron
(This is a repost. Some snafu happened. Sorry for the lost comments)
Electron microscopy reveals similarities to WTC thermite residue.
Dr. Steven Jones just turned in these electron microscope images of thermite residue from the September 2, 2007 TruthBurn demonstration at Burning Man. Iron rich spheres that look very similar to WTC iron spheres were revealed by the powerful microscope at Jones' lab. An analysis is forthcoming.
Image from Burning Man sample
A short video of the reaction that produced these samples can be found at http://911truthburn.blogspot.com The TruthBurn art event was a memorial to all 911 victims, an attempt to demonstrate the steel cutting powers of thermite, its probable use in the controlled demolition of all 3 WTC buildings and to foster more discussion on the important work of ae911truth.The sign is now having a second life as a magnet for 911 Truth ideas. We are open to outstanding ideas for its use.
This image is from a WTC sample submitted to Dr. Jones.
Several months have passed since Prof. Jones revealed his startling evidence that supposedly proves some sort of explosives/incendiaries were used in the demolition of the WTC 1,2 and 7. When I first viewed his presentation I was floored because this was the physical evidence we needed. Since then however I have heard little about it. Does anybody know what the status is with that? And what can we do to help speed up the process of getting this information out there and peer-reviewed? any ideas? Take care everyone, keep fighting the good fight
"The educated differ from the uneducated as much as the living from the dead" - Aristotle
Proponents of the micro-nuke theory of controlled demolition have argued that the molten metal found weeks after 9/11 cannot be explained by thermite, since fire requires oxygen. They say the red-hot metal underground proves that nuclear devices were used on 9/11.
It was pretty easy to find the error in the above argument. Thermite does not require atmospheric oxygen in order to burn, so a thermite fire could continue burning underground.
Thermite is a mixture of iron oxide and aluminum.
THE OXYGEN FOR THE REACTION IS PROVIDED BY THE IRON OXIDE.
Here is the equation:
FE2 O3 + 2AL ---> AL2 O3 + 2 FE
Thermite = Iron Oxide + Aluminium ---> Aluminium Oxide + Iron + Heat
The same amount of oxygen goes into and comes out of the reaction; it just changes over from iron oxide to aluminium oxide.
This makes sense - if the reaction depended on oxygen from the air, it wouldn't burn so hot.
Air is only about 20% oxygen and is also very diluted being a gas, compared to a solid like iron oxide - that's why some rockets use solid fuel.
Burning Man has given conditional approval to the TruthBurn Art Project. The head of the Art Project Dept. for Burning Man stated today that the project was very ambitious and interesting. We need to address some questions that Burning Man has regarding our use of fire and flame effects. The TruthBurn art sculpture will be engulfed in 6' high propane flames at night to commemorate the loss of life at 9/11 and loss of life in its aftermath all over the globe. Thermite or thermate cutter charges will bring the structure down in a "controlled demolition" towards the end of the week long Burning Man festival. Spokespersons from the truth movement will be on hand to answer questions from the press and festival participants. The partly destroyed letters from the sculpture that spell the word "Truth" will then be available for art galleries, public protests and nationwide calls for a new independent investigation into the events around 9/11. Architects Richard Gage and Scott Page and civil engineer, Charles Pegelow are advising and participating in the development process for TruthBurn.
Journal of 9/11 Studies: Some Physical Chemistry Aspects of Thermite, Thermate, Iron-Aluminum-Rich Microspheres
Some Physical Chemistry Aspects of Thermite, Thermate, Iron-Aluminum-Rich Microspheres, the Eutectic, and the Iron-Sulfur System as Applied to the Demise of Three World Trade Center Buildings on 9/11/2001
It has been established through a study of the photographic and video evidence that there were a number of instances of white-hot areas that produced glowing liquid flows from window openings on the 80th to 82nd floor of WTC 2 that persisted for quite a number of seconds.
According to the NIST FAQ1 these events came within the last 7 minutes before WTC 2 began its collapse. White-hot temperatures cannot be produced by ordinary fires. These observations have therefore been conclusively shown to be incendiary events. This fact is inconsistent with any theory of collapse except controlled demolition.
In this special broadcast of Visibility 9-11, Michael guest hosts the third of a series of interviews for the radio program Words of Freedom with George Flynn. Words of Freedom is aired on KRFC, 88.9 FM in Fort Collins, Colorado on Monday nights at 5:30 - 6:00 pm mountain time (no commercials). This opportunity provides a valuable window to introduce 9-11 truth to an audience who rarely hear our message. Many thanks to George for the honor of sitting in for him while he is away on business.
9/11 Debunkers Hide From Slam Dunk Evidence Of Controlled Demolition - prisonplanet.com
Electron microscope analysis of steel spheres from WTC site proves thermate, proves collapse of twin towers was an act of deliberate arson
Paul Joseph Watson
Tuesday, May 22, 2007
Professor Steven Jones presented brand new and compelling evidence for the controlled demolition of the twin towers and WTC 7 recently, but the 9/11 debunkers and the corporate media are loathe to tackle it because it represents a slam dunk on proving the collapse of the buildings was a deliberate act of arson.
“… guilty creatures, sitting at a play,
Have by the very cunning of the scene
Been struck so to the soul that presently
They have proclaim'd their malefactions;
For murder, though it have no tongue, will speak
With most miraculous organ”
-Hamlet, Act2, Scene2
Our Burning Man Art Installation called “TruthBurn” is aimed at eliciting the same kind of response for truth that Shakespeare’s Hamlet sought.
Our plan is to raise the funds for and build this twenty foot tall 40 ton structural steel art piece with the 8 foot tall steel letters “Truth” engulfed in flames. Towards the close of the Burning Man Art festival, the piece will be brought down in spectacular fashion by two steel melting thermate cutter charges set midway on the two massive foot square steel support columns.
PROOF OF THERMATE QUESTIONED: Prof. Fetzer vs. Prof. Jones
James H. Fetzer and Steven E. Jones
6 May 2007
NOTE: This exchange was initiated by a post from Nila Sagadevan endorsing “proof of thermate” in a post included at the end. Steve's replies to my original are identified, as are my new responses. I have edited asides in order to focus on the important issues, where anyone who has received the originals can verify the difference for themselves. I have had the great benefit of expert advice from Judy Wood, Ph.D., in preparing this reply. In my opinion, the most serious question facing the 9/11 truth movement is the adequacy of this line of research.
ORIGINAL (3 May 2007):
I am fascinated with your seemingly unqualified endorsement of Steve Jones' thermite/thermate hypothesis. I hope that some of the members of this list can help me figure this out, because I must be missing something not to recognize that his approach holds the key to understanding what happened at the World Trade Center. Please ask your list if someone could help me figure out what I have wrong. Thanks!
JONES (4 May 2007):
This is the scope of my proposal for an art project at Burning Man 2007
I believe it will garner significant press attention and therefore benefit the 911 Truth Movement
I need to raise $60,000.00 to realize this project. I feel that that sum is small in relation to the press and publicity benefits that the art project will attract. Please visit my new "911TruthBurn" blog site for more details. I appreciate your interest.
Dr. Jones' inspiring and recently revised paper is located here:
I couldn't help but notice the YouTube link to "Linear Thermite Cutting Charges":
Madison, WI (PRWEB) February 1, 2007 – Members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, a non-partisan organization of students, experts and scholars dedicated to exposing falsehoods and revealing truths about 9/11, have some bones to pick with CBS NEWS for an article entitled, “Dangerous World Fuels Conspiracy Theories” (30 January 2007). According to James H. Fetzer, the society’s founder, “It is chock full of false assertions, even including misidentification of Steven Jones, my former co-chair, as the society’s founder.”
“That is rather rich,” Fetzer said. “Steve and I have had a parting of the ways over differences in our attitude and approach toward the science and the politics of 9/11 research. But if he had been ‘the founder’, he should have been conducting a ‘house cleaning’, not abandoning ship.” The split between them, Fetzer added, has had a beneficial effect. “A cult-like atmosphere had developed around him, which I considered to be bad for scientific research on 9/11.”
These studies deserve widespread discussion. If they are right, then there is a desperate need to broad the range of hypotheses under our consideration.
23 August 2006
Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Disintegrate?
Morgan Reynolds and Judy Wood
14 December 2006
The Scientific Method Applied to the Thermite Hypothesis
Judy Wood and Morgan Reynolds
Disturbed about the content and quality of physicist Steven E. Jones'
9/11 work, Drs. Morgan Reynolds and Judy Wood conducted a
peer-review. This review covers ten major issues which include
demolition of WTC 7, demolitions of WTC 1&2, evidence for high-energy
explosives, thermite, glowing aluminum, No Big Boeing Theory (NBB)
and other issues. In the "truth movement," it is vital that we
police our own. If we don't, the defenders of the OGCT certainlly
will. You can be sure that it will get mighty ugly when defenders of
the OGCT find major errors. This is the purpose for having research
Of course the inventions are available to cut the columns. In this research, I found out a bunch of interesting things with some patent searches. Things like creating a back pressure behind the thermite/thermate material, to force it as a spray. Using ejection design to force the hot material into the steel. The chemical composition of different thermites and thermates. The burning temperature of thermate and thermite. How much steel can a pound of thermite burn through. Pyronol.RTM., once ignited, will attain temperatures between six and twelve thousand degrees Fahrenheit. Wait a minute, will attain temperatures between six and twelve thousand degrees Fahrenheit. Are you kidding me, what’s this Pyronol stuff?
The data and number of patents is overwhelming.
Here’s the URL for the patent office search, just enter the following patent numbers into the search box and click search.
To search for your favorite search terms go here: