WTC collapse

Condi, Osama and Lee, and a Good Question for Investigative Reporters

Last year at about this time, 9/11 Commission chairman Lee Hamilton was interviewed by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. This interview is incredible, to say the least, and represents an outstanding example of the need for 9/11 truth.

At the time, Hamilton was trying to sell his new book, “Without Precedent", in which he and co-chairman Thomas Kean described how frustrated they were with repeated misstatements by the Defense Department and the Federal Aviation Agency during the investigation, and how they considered an investigation into possible deception.

But the interview also showed how utterly clueless Hamilton actually was, and apparently still is today, about the most basic aspects of the events of 9/11.

When asked about the demolition hypothesis, Hamilton said – “The charge that dynamite, or whatever, brought down the World Trade Towers, we of course looked at very carefully - we find no evidence of that. We find all kinds of evidence that it was the airplanes that did it.”

Hamilton then clarified – “What caused the collapse of the buildings, to summarize it, was that the super-heated jet fuel melted the steel super-structure of these buildings and caused their collapse.”

For those who don’t know, only Osama bin Laden himself still promotes the “super-heated jet fuel melted the steel super-structure” theory, or so says the US State department. According to Ms. Rice’s debunking page “The Top September 11 Conspiracy Theories”, Osama claimed in his confession video that “Due to my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building.”

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The Hijacking of a Terrorism Plot! - The hijacking of Al-Qaeda and the nurturing of the Terrorism Fairy.

A spectacular attack on the United States was on the wish list of Zbegniew Brzezinski as far back as 1997, without it, there would be no internal support within the United States for the sacrifices needed to implement his plans for American hegemony. In his book “The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and its Geostrategic Imperatives”, Mr. Brzezinski writes:

Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat.

The Project for a New American Century, a Washington think tank that took the reins at the Pentagon and the Bush White House, was just as convinced of the importance of the “spectacular attack” as the catalyst for their plans, which mirrored Brzezinski’s, that they felt the need to convey it in their September 2000 white paper, Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century, thusly

Well known "debunkers" submitted a paper for peer review and publication to Journal of Engineering Mechanics

I just wanted to make visitors of this site aware that a bunch of well known "debunkers" submitted to the Department of Civil and Envriomental Engineering at Northwestern University a paper on the mechanism of collapse of the WTC Towers for peer review and publication by the Journal of Engineering Mechanics.

Here is a link to the paper concerned.

I want to raise concern so that scientists and engineers from the movement move to respond to this paper.

Fire Effects on Steel Structures – Detailed Technical Engineering Studies and Data

Fire Effects on Steel Structures – Technical Engineering Studies and Data

After researching the collapse of the WTC towers, the 911 researchers lack data in steel structure test burns. Some researchers claim that metal is not damaged in fires which will be shown to be untrue. Much speculation is created about the temperature obtained in the steel. If you search deeper outside of the 911 truth movement, you will find that there are many structural engineering groups who have researched the effects of fires on steel structures. This was done thru researching previous building fires, computer simulations and test building fires.

The test structure fires are what we need to focus on. There is enough data here to create a good hypothesis on the failure modes of the towers. The data is extremely complex and much more than I can handle. I would encourage other engineers to look over this data and post their results. We also need to email the structural and fire engineers who performed this research for more information pertaining to the WTC buildings. Here are the main points which I found in my research.

Research Papers/ Sites :

WTC 911 helicopter footage (german documentary)

A german film "THE OTHER AMERICA" documents many psychological aspects of the 911 operation, juxtaposing very interesting footage of the scale of the crime at Ground Zero.

It is entirely in english with german subtitles. It was first broadcast on 07 September 2002 on German-French people-owned TV channel ARTE.

Download Link (338mB) and more info:

If you haven't seen it, helicopter views of the circular hole in WTC5, footage of bent box columns, hosing down of trucks, loading of metal scrap on barges ... a stunning watch.

The interviewees speak clearly of the crimes of the elites but do not spell out that 9/11 was an inside job. Their statements are therefore hard to refute and make this documentary a MUST SEE for the "average american".

Download mpg (338mb):

NIST and Proof of Temperature.

(An oldie from the DemocraticUnderground archive... the difference between what's provable at the freeway collapse and the WTC should be obvious. Re-posted here for posterity. -r.)

NIST's New Mechanical and Metallurgical Analysis of Structural Steel (WTC)

by stickdog - Sun Jun-26-05


1) No WTC-7 steel was recovered or analyzed.

2) No unprocessed, intact floor trusses were recovered or analyzed.

3) No testing for explosives (or sulfidation or other residue of any kind) was performed.

4) Only 12 total core columns were recovered from WTC-1 & WTC-2 combined.

5) Of the recovered core pieces, none showed exposure to temperatures in excess of 250 C.

6) Of 170 examined areas on the perimeter column panels, only three showed exposure to temperatures in excess of 250 C and for one of these three forensic evidence indicated that the high temperature exposure occurred AFTER the collapse.

7) No recovered steel showed any evidence of exposure to temperatures above 600 C for any significant time.

How long is it going to fall?

Nearly as fast as it would fall through air?

Can an object fall through mass 5 times greater than itself nearly as fast as it would fall through air? (When only force available is gravity?)

You need to be no expert in physics or structural engineering to answer this question. And you also need no expert to tell you what the answer is. All you need is a little bit of common sense.

Undamaged part of the WTC1 under the impact zone was approximately 5/6 of whole tower. Photos of impact zone of WTC1 can be found here to check that there is only 1/6 of the tower mass above the impact zone. Use sky lobby as a reference point. See also this picture and this video.

Kevin Ryan's article on Vive le Canada

9/11: Looking for Truth in Credentials: The Peculiar WTC “Experts”
Contributed by: Milton

by Kevin Ryan

Global Research, March 13, 2007
9/11 blogspot

When Matthew Rothschild, editor of the online magazine The Progressive, wrote an article called “Enough of the 9/11 Conspiracies, Already”, we all knew he was not talking about the conspiracy theory that the US government sells us to justify the expanding 9/11 Wars.[1] To the contrary, in writing that article Mr. Rothschild was selling that same theory himself. What he actually meant was that people should not question the US government’s story of terror because credentialed experts have been found to support it. But the fact is that the experts found to support the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 are predominantly those who profit from doing so. That’s not to say that all of these people were “part of the conspiracy”. But they are, whether consciously or not, a part of the cover-up. And that, of course, is the greater crime.

This is Cutting Torch Slag?

The interiors of some of the jumbled support columns that littered Ground Zero contained molten metal (slag), as shown by this FEMA photo No. 4210. The slag is newer than the solidified surface of the cuts made in the column members at manufacture, evidenced by its darker, bluer color. The older cuts are oxidized to a light brown.

In places, this slag was apparently forced out of the joints between the column sections. Since the direction of the flow of the slag is from the center to the periphery in various directions, it appears that the slag is not the result of cutting efforts during the cleanup, but rather that the molten metal flowed while the columns were upright. FEMA photo 5709 also shows slag.

Since no official investigation questioned the origin of this slag, its determination remains an action item for independent efforts.

The BBC2's 9.11 "Conspiracy-Files": Just a cynical MSM debunking exercise?

Last Sept/Oct I spoke on the phone, several times, to the senior BBC radio producer:

A... Armstrong (for their anonymity)
Senior Producer, BBC World Current Affairs
Room 1252, BBC White City, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7TS
Tel: 020 8752 6902

They knew about their colleague Guy Smith’s forthcoming 9.11 'Conspiracy Files' programme and asked me if I could forward or contribute information that would help in the production.
I smelt a bit of a rat at the time, unfortunately, since I was currently embroiled in a discussion with the above office as to why an otherwise undeniable piece of solid first-hand testimony including allusions to an explosion near the roof of the South-tower, had been retrospectively edited from a BBC radio 9.11 5th anniversary transmission.
I was working from the testimony of Beverly Eckert, a 911 widow, once member of ' Voices of September 11', whose husband Sean Rooney had worked on floor 92 of that building as vice-president of Aon Risk Management Services.

WTC Collapse Footage Analysis released a short analysis of the recent collapse footage from the BBC's 9/11 Twin Towers.

It shows the simultaneous squibs quite nicely.

The Eiffel Tower Analogy

Eiffel Tower

The World Trade Center towers were extremely robust structures, with an inner core formed by 47 box columns each a yard wide, fabricated of steel 4 inches thick near their bases. These columns were abundantly cross-braced and anchored directly onto bedrock. The cores got thinner nearer the top, so that the lower floors were heavier and sturdier, than the lighter top ones.

One can imagine a stripped-down and exaggerated model of the towers would look something like the Eiffel Tower in Paris, France.

Now imagine, you vaporize 2 levels of the shaft two thirds up (as supposedly the plane and the fires did on the WTC) and let it fall. Do you sincerely believe that the rest of the intact lower structure would completely and instantly collapse in a symmetric fashion if that top section fell back on it?

Compelling Video at Google

"What We Saw" by Bob and Bri is a compelling 26 minute eyewitness video shot on the morning of 9/11 from a the 36th floor of a high-rise apartment about 500 yards Northwest of WTC 1.

Pay particular attention at Minute 11:48 to 12:19 when the videographer witnesses the second plane impact and almost immediately calls it a "military plane".

Again, pay particular attention at Minute 14:07 which is the commencement of the collapse of WTC 2. The camera is aimed at street level prior to the top of WTC 2 cascading and the camera picks up a very curious dust cloud at the base of the towers prior to any material traveling down from above. In "9/11 Eyewitness", videographer Rick Siegal caught this same phenomenon on video from across the Hudson River. This looks like it is possible confirmation that Rick Siegal correctly identified a smoke/dust plume at the street level just prior to the collapse of WTC 2.

This video does not provide the sort of analysis that we might see in other documentaries. This is raw footage shot on the morning of 9/11 with no overdubbing and minimal editing.

If anyone reading this happens to know the filmmakers, please indicate this in the comments section.

"911 Mysteries: Part 1: Demolitions" to be screened in Newton, MA on October 18, 2006 at 7 PM

The Boston 9/11 Truth Committee anouncement:

The Boston 9/11Truth Committee proudly presents an important new film:


Written and Directed by Smallstorm

Featuring construction and demolition experts, survivors and
first responders on the scene deconstructing the myth of 911.

Why were there explosions in the basement of the towers long before the buildings fell?
Why did building 7 collapse if it was not hit by an airplane and suffered only a few small fires?
What was the Bush family's involvement in the company managing World Trade Center security?
Why were there multiple "security evacuations" of the buildings in the weeks leading up to 911?

What if the Twin Towers were brought down by explosives?
What if US officials were involved?

Wednesday October 18, 2006, 7:00 PM
West Newton Cinema
1296 Washington Street, West Newton, MA
(Free parking available around the corner)