When we are asked to believe that a boeing 757 penetrated through yards of reinforced concrete walls at the Pentagon we have to strain out imaginations to do so. Look at it this way...the 757 strikes the first wall, and only the fuselage goes through...crosses about 50-60 feet of space and goes through another wall,...then another open space and carries on through another wall..another similar open space , and another wall, another open space, then another wall and another open space, and yet another wall,aoither open space, and finally punches a large clean hole in a final wall. ...Three rings in all, with another building section crossing the fuselage's path.(see link).
This story is a little out of date, but is making tracks at digg. -r.
Meet Torin Wolf. He has a broad and varied background as a US Army Combat Nurse during Operation Iraqi Freedom,....
...building construction contractor, certified structural welder, certified asbestos and hazardous materials worker, experienced demolitions expert, teacher, radio show host, and well studied 9/11 truth activist. Torin knows how to put a building up, and bring the same building down in its own footprint. Torin's free presentation, “Taking the Red Pill” was hosted by Brave New Books on 1904 Guadalupe in Austin last Saturday, June 23rd at 7 pm.
Torin is proud of his native Cherokee heritage and his mother is the Band Historian of the White River Band Cherokee from the central United States. Since he received his GED at age 14, saying he is a smart guy is putting it lightly. For over 12 years he worked as a hazardous materials contractor specializing in asbestos abatement and concrete construction sampling. Add to his resume the fact that he designed and implemented well over 100 controlled demolitions. He was not just helping at a lower level in the demolitions - he was the guy responsible for calling the shots. Afterwards, he became a certified structural steel welder and worked in heavy and mega construction for over 5 years in locations around the world including several skyscrapers.
Ironically, Torin signed his papers to join the army on September 11th, 2000. He knew something was wrong with the official 9/11 story when his army handlers took his squad into a room just in time to watch the buildings collapse. With his demolitions experience, he immediately knew those towers could not have fallen like that without explosives. He went on to serve “with honor and distinction” with the 21st Combat Support Hospital in Mosul, Iraq during the first part of Operation Iraqi Freedom and earned the Bronze Star with V device for valor in combat.
While saving over 120 lives, Torin earned the Combat Medical Badge by providing medical care to US, allied, enemy soldiers, and civilians under combat conditions. Torin's arms display Samoan life saving tattoos, each line and symbol representing a group of lives saved. The army would like you to think he wasn't in Iraq, but unfortunately for them, Torin appears in a recent documentary filmed there. A true hero helping save lives in the middle east, Torin can be seen in section 4 of a PBS documentary called “Life and Death in the War Zone.”
With Torins impressive list of qualifications, his unwavering voice holds a power that shatters the lies of 9/11 sold to us by the government and mainstream media, “The official story we've been told about 9/11 is absolutely, physically impossible.”
This video is not new, it actually has been used with fake explosion sounds to prove demolitions at the wtc.
This video is the original with no sound edits, it is stabilized, zoomed, 1/4 speed to reveal a demolition sequence 40 floors below going off diagonally reaching the service floor.
Not a conspiracy or fact?
by Scott Forbes
Friday Jul 20th, 2007 7:08 AM
British IT engineer Scott Forbes was working in New York's World Trade Center in September 2001 and lost 89 of his work colleagues in the 9/11 attacks. This is a 25 minute mp3 interview with him for free dissemination... ..
Listen here to his eyewitness account of the security systems power down and mysterious 'cabling' contractors working in the south tower the weekend immediately prior to the attacks.
Scott Forbes demands disclosure of documents authorising the power down and details of who the contractors were.
From his nearby flat, on his day off, Scott witnessed the second plane strike the tower just below offices where his colleagues were working.
The 9/11 Commission were not interested that the WTC security cameras and other security systems were paralysed between 12 noon on Saturday 8th and 2pm on Sunday 9th September 2001.
Dear President Córdova,
Congratulations on your recent appointment at Purdue University. As a long time citizen of the state of Indiana, I welcome you to what I know to be an outstanding institution of higher learning. At the same time, I hope to help you see an immediate opportunity to make a great positive difference in the lives of the people of our state and, in fact, a great difference in the lives of people everywhere. Through your appointment you have been given this opportunity to speak out and denounce what can be called, at best, criminally negligent science on the part of a small segment of the Purdue faculty.
Last month, a few Purdue professors, along with some students, presented a short animation ostensibly related to the 9/11 tragedy at the World Trade Center (WTC). Surprisingly the University then announced this animation in a news release, as if it represented a scientifically accurate simulation of the impact of a Boeing 767 into the WTC's north tower. Unfortunately, this short video clip is far from a scientifically-based production, as it actually contradicts several of the government's own, much more intensive studies, and shamefully fails to capture some of the most basic aspects of the related events. To make things worse, Purdue University paradoxically implies that this brief animation provides support for the overworked fire-induced collapse hypothesis. By simultaneously contradicting and voicing support for the official story, Purdue has helped to promote the Bush Administration's fraudulent 9/11 Wars, and instantly earned a notorious place in modern history.
I know I'm going off half-cocked here and that a little information can be a dangerous thing but, I'm broadening the scope of my 911 research, looking at the flights and this jumped right out at me.
I'll put a lot more reading behind me before I post anything more on this but I was immediately struck by something.
Having looked at the pentagon pics along with the recent video of the flight recorder analysis its easy to assume that the pentagon strike was a missile rather than a plane.
Having made that assumption we then have to cater for the known elements:
1. A plane took off from Dulles airport
2. Something was tracked on radar that looked like AA77
3. Something hit the pentagon
4. No plane like AA77 landed anywhere visible
When I took a look at the radar track their are three oddities:
a. Why did the plane go so far out of its way?
b. The detour up to the Maryland border
b. The track being lost some time later
Can anybody direct me to a source for surface tracks of flights AA77 and UA93 superimposed on a reasonably large scale map?
I'd like to pursue an idea and these tracks would make a good starting point.
First up, I'm not an engineer. However, I'd like to stimulate a bit of discussion on a technical aspect because I haven't seen it discussed in this context.
A common comment is that all three towers fell due to controlled demolition. The implication being that the collapses were identical. Of course they weren't. The first two [wtc 1 & 2] were subjected to a much more complex process than the third [wtc7].
I'd like to look at wtc 1 & 2 for two reasons:
1. A lack of supporting explanation could be a source for debunking fun.
2. A good supporting explanation would be yet another obvious smoking gun [apart from squibs, etc].
It appears that the normal way to pull a building is to break it off at the base then cut it rapidly floor by floor from the bottom up. This process is visible in wtc7 and all the comparitive examples.
I believe that the perpetrators used the standard technique on wtc7 a. because it wasn't going to be hit by a plane and b. the original plan was to say that it was dropped due to instability caused by collateral damage [I cite Silverstein's video statement re 'pulling' the building].
Last night I stumbled upon the recently re-activated Google page for the film. The previous view count (2,475,901 last night) also shows on the page!! Hooray!!
Last night I emailed Sofia, the creator of the film, and she responded this morning--she's totally elated!! Spread the word about this excellent film: it's a door opener to the TRUTH.
Here's some of the collapse footage from the 9/11 archive. A zip file with all the original mpeg cuts (not re-encoded, original (interlaced) mpegs) is available for download here: http://www.filefactory.com/file/32838f/ . All footage can be verified in the 9/11 archive at archive.org.
I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Xenomorph, who originally posted the links to the mpegs on the conspiracy central forums.
ABC, 9/11, 22:40
NBC, 9/11, 14:40
CNN, 9/11, 11:33
FOX, 9/11, 21:28
As I monitor the flood of information popping up on 911 I frequently find myself wondering about some things that could add more weight to the discussion. These are things that ought to be ascertainable with a bit of legwork. I'm not in a position to do much hard investigation myself so I thought I'd put these thoughts out there in case someone wants to pick them up and put some time into them.
1. It appears that certain tenants of the 2 towers were warned not to come to work on 911. This implies a selection process.
Question: Is there a connection between people who didn't show for work that day?
Example - Registered republican, politicians, Bush acquaintances, Bush contributors, Saudi royal family connected.
The converse is interesting too. Who DID show?
Registered democrat, Bush opposer, muslim, middle eastern national, other foreigner, (Bush-centric) nonentity.
2. Who was in the audience at the Warren Buffett seminar deep in the bomb-proof bunker at the top secret air force base that Bush stopped at on 911? Were any of these guys skipping a days work at the WTC to attend?
Well known "debunkers" submitted a paper for peer review and publication to Journal of Engineering Mechanics
I just wanted to make visitors of this site aware that a bunch of well known "debunkers" submitted to the Department of Civil and Envriomental Engineering at Northwestern University a paper on the mechanism of collapse of the WTC Towers for peer review and publication by the Journal of Engineering Mechanics.
Here is a link to the paper concerned.
I want to raise concern so that scientists and engineers from the movement move to respond to this paper.
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A video that compares aspects of well known, 'obvious' building demolitions with the almost hidden ones of WTC 1 & 2 on September 11th 2001. I say almost because ANYONE can watch this video and see it for themselves.
See hundreds of demolition charge flashes before and during the implosions of the towers.
Watch as huge horizontal blasts eject steel and concrete far below the collapsing section.
Its clear cut folks....those towers were absolutely laced with demo charges, fact.
And that creates all sorts of horrible thoughts....
We must expose the 9/11 Inside Job...for the victims, their families, subsequent war deaths and for everyone on this planet.
Thanks to the video "9/11: The Explosive Reality" - which inspired me to put this little video together.
The huffington post website has been re-done. If I thought it was 'soft' on 911 before, I was sadly mistaken. The 911 stuff is there but its buried in a ton of incredibly banal pap.
Anyway, someone's 'huffed' an article called "Why the towers fell: Two theories" its on page 3 of the US News section [ http://huffit.huffingtonpost.com/category/US%20News/page/3 ].
If we get on there now and 'huff' it, it might make the ticker before it ages out of sight.
This is a link to photos and videos of the WTC remains held in Hangar 17 at JFK airport:.
Professional Pilots Rob Balsamo and FAA Authorized Flight Examiner/Check Airman Dan Govatos discuss the difficulty of the WTC attacks as well as attempts to duplicate the attack in an Airline Simulator on tnrlive.com.
visit http://truthorlies.org for archive of full interview.
Visit http://pilotsfor911truth.org for the latest information and in depth analysis.
I believe the reader will find that the following information proves without a doubt that terrorists used an explosive device in the subleves of the North Tower.
The Case for an Explosive Device In The Sublevels of the WTC North Tower
Author: Swing Dangler
I will not attempt the blame game with this premise. I am not a structural engineer or an explosives expert. I do have reasonable doubts about the official story. My research to this point on a personal level has been with a trained explosive expert in the U.S. military and with a construction engineer. I have read reports in support of the NIST and rebuttals to the NIST report. I have also read the NIST report summary as posted online. The reason for this hypothesis is to consider what assisted in the global collapse of the Twin Towers. The existence for this hypothesis is three-fold.
1. The NIST did not attempt to explain the reason for a global collapse nor consider the hypothesis which I proposed. Does that make the existence of explosive devices(ED) invalid? No.
I had not seen the entire interview, he gives a detailed account of his experience.
Some of the Computer models have been released according to this person and the ones he acquired are available for download.
He obtained them after a successful Freedom of Information Act request.
The fee for obtaining his models was $58.
Download links to obtained models:
I hope we can obtain rest of the models NIST relied on for further study.
I have spent quite a few hours going through and downloading every single interview PDF file available online and building a ZIP archive with them all conveniently stored together.
These are the original unedited World Trade Center Task Force Interview Transcripts taken between October 2001 and January 2002.
I have taken them from the NY Times website, so hopefully there are no questions over credibility.
Base URL ( graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110nnn.PDF).
They Include testamony from...
* 9110035 PARAMEDIC DANIEL RIVERA
* 9110048 EMT PATRICIA ONDROVIC
* 9110138 CHIEF JOSEPH PFEIFER
* 9110142 CHIEF ALBERT TURI
* 9110154 CHIEF OF THE DEPARTMENT DANIEL NIGRO
Please host these if you can (filesize is 44MB), share or whatever as they were tricky to put all together and are not located in many places (two websites I found, none in easily accessible archive format, all separate).
Please help store for posterity and future analysis.
Many thanks and best wishes
This is a repack of the original WTC blueprint images - each file is now descriptively labeled, and those that were scanned upside down have been rotated. The originals also had a strange pixel aspect ratio that would result in a distorted image when opening the file in many programs, and that too has been corrected.
Note that this zip file contains only the blueprint images - the other large data files that were included in the original torrent have been left out.
WTC1 Blueprints.zip - 139.5 MB
(If anyone wants to stick these on a real server, I would love to kill the Megaupload link...)
A retro Asbestos/Twin Towers ad from The Consumerist
One of Copyranter's readers found this disturbing old-skool ad for asbestos, featuring the former World Trade Center.
...judging by the look and type, I'd say is circa 1970s-mid80s. Copy reads: "Asbestos contains fire, cannot burn and holds up after metal and glass have melted down, giving vital time for people to escape." Also, note the tagline. [When life depends on it, you use asbestos]. The ad is from a Canadian company, Asbestos Corporation Limited. Surprised they're still operating and haven't been sued into a pile of dust.
It hits me very hard personally: my Father has asbestosis in his lungs from 37 years of pipe-fitter work for a big DuPont chemical plant. The company's plant physicians kept his condition a secret from him for many, many years.
...And now you know why corporations are awesome! — BEN POPKEN
Madison, WI (PRWEB) March 30, 2007 – Some members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, a non-partisan organization of students, experts and scholars dedicated to exposing falsehoods and revealing truths about 9/11, have filed complaints against the National Institute of Standards and Technology for legal defects in its studies of events of 9/11 involving the Twin Towers and Building 7. James H. Fetzer, the society’s founder, believes these actions have the potential to break the back of the cover-up that has enveloped these events.
“It would be nice if the government would tell us the truth about our own history,” Fetzer said. “But all we get from the President, the Vice President, the Secretary of State and former Secretary of Defense is a ‘song and dance’ that keeps the American people in ignorance.” The complaints have been filed by Ed Hass, who edits The Muckraker Report; Morgan Reynolds, past Chief Economist in the Department of Labor in the Bush administration; and Judy Wood, former professor of mechanical engineering at Clemson University. Reynolds and Wood are both members of the society.
In light of the release of blueprints to the World Trade Centers by a whistleblower to Dr. Steven Jones, Jim Hoffman has updated his essay on the Tower Blueprints. Please read the original article to get the links and diagrams.
Surviving Evidence of the World Trade Center Attack
The blueprints to the Twin Towers and Building 7 remained off-limits to the public for more than five years after the attack, despite the fact that the buildings were built with public money and that the engineering drawings of public buildings are supposed to be public information. 1 Incredibly, the team of engineers from the ASCE that conducted the only investigation of the building "collapses" before Ground Zero had been cleaned up lacked access to the buildings' blueprints -- at least until they signed waivers that they would not use the evidence in a lawsuit against the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. 2
Whistleblower Releases Blueprints
Scans of original drawings of the North Tower of the World Trade Center have been published online by a coalition of independent 9/11 researchers and journalists.
Berkeley, CA (PRWEB) March 27, 2007 -- A coalition of independent 9/11 investigators and journalists today announced the online publication of a set of original blueprints of the North Tower of the World Trade Center. The set is composed of over 200 never-before-published drawings, including plans, elevations, and details, given to physicist Dr. Steven E. Jones by an individual interested in a more complete analysis. Groups presenting the plans include Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice, 9-11 Research, and Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. A multi-resolution drawing viewer for the blueprints is located at 9-11 Research (http://911research.wtc7.net/).
Richard Gage, AIA, Architect, the founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, said, "We cannot truly understand what happened in these historical structural failure events when we are not allowed access to the construction documents." Gage believes that, given the profound differences in the official collapse theories, the need for more investigation is clear. "First they come up with the "pancake theory", then they changed it to the "column failure theory". We don't believe that either of those theories are supported by the available evidence."
I wrote this tribute last September.
This is a video of the piece telling the story of the World Trade Center destruction through the eyes of the FDNY and first responders.
The April 2007 issue of Esquire contains an article about the WTC dust by Eric Gillin. It begins on page 133. Most of the article is about tests done on a backpack Gillin was wearing on 9/11 and had preserved since. Basically, the tests found that the initial dust cloud contained mostly gypsum and cement, while the more toxic dust was a product of computers and such burning in the pile of debris.
This description on page 141 repeats the myth of the pancake collapse: "When the South Tower came down, the massive concrete floors fell like a giant stack of pancakes, slamming into one another and driving the contents of the building straight down, but the air in the building blew out the sides, like a balloon popping when a fat man sits on it. The wind that the building exhaled was hurricane force, instantly aerating the drywall and the glass and some of the concrete, which coated me a few seconds later."
Since NIST is refusing to release computer visualisations of the collapse of the Twin Towers, why not do our own?
Are there any structural/civil engineers out there, with access to finite element analysis modeling software, who can build simplified models of WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7?
This would constitute a solid project for a civil engineer undergrad/graduate for any academics out there.
(More after jump)
Allianz in Mediation with WTC Developer Silverstein
Tue Mar 13, 2007
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Allianz said mediators would seek to determine how much it owes the developer of the World Trade Center, while he led a demonstration against Europe's biggest insurer for withholding funds.
"We're going to make you pay!" Larry Silverstein shouted in front of a crowd of about 200 cheering construction workers at a noon rally in midtown Manhattan on Monday.
Silverstein, who leased the downtown site destroyed on Sept. 11, 2001, claims Allianz still owes him $553 million and that a second insurer, Britain's Royal & Sun Alliance, owes him $250 million. He said their reluctance had slowed rebuilding at the site.
"You can count on some insurance companies to look for every way they can think of to avoid paying up," said Silverstein, making common cause with Gulf Coast homeowners who are suing for claims from Hurricane Katrina in 2005.
(More after the jump...)
I hope this insurance company is waking up from the scam we can only pray. We should e-mail them and try to wake them up on at least building 7 http://www.royal-and-sunalliance.com/royalsun/contactus/index.jsp?link=7...
Allianz in Mediation with WTC Developer Silverstein
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Allianz (ALVG.DE: Quote, Profile , Research) said mediators would seek to determine how much it owes the developer of the World Trade Center, while he led a demonstration against Europe's biggest insurer for withholding funds.
"We're going to make you pay!" Larry Silverstein shouted in front of a crowd of about 200 cheering construction workers at a noon rally in midtown Manhattan on Monday.