The 9/11 Accountability Conference From My Perspective

Video:
www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=202

By Jon Gold
2/26/2007

Well, I'm back. Home safe and sound. As you may have read in my other blog, the conference started on shaky grounds, but the end result was phenomenal. So many good things took place, it will be hard for me to summarize all of them. I'm going to share with you the things I was privy to. I have no doubt you will be hearing from many more people about this conference.

I spoke with Peter Garritano from Vermont in regards to the Ballot initiative. One of the important points about that initiative is that if it's passed, or gets enough signatures, it then can become a topic of discussion in Town Hall meetings across the state. Regardless of whether or not your elected officials act on it. As we learned through the Vermont initiative, it is also a way to get media attention. I hope that if you are in a state that has a ballot initiative, you do everything within your power to make it happen.

Bob McIlvaine, who lost his son Bobby on 9/11, attended this conference, and it was a pleasure to see him. He is a good, good man, and listening to him speak, and listening to him share his strength, motivates me to do more. I was also privileged to meet Michele Little. Michele was one of the three family members that called for a new investigation at the National Press Club in Washington D.C., 9/11/2006. She lost her brother David, who was a firefighter. She is also an amazing individual, and I am so happy that I got to meet her. Both of them gave a memorial presentation on Saturday morning to start off the conference. It was extremely emotional for me. I just couldn't stop crying. I hope that someone gets that online as soon as possible. I spoke with both of them about reaching out to the family members that share our concerns. To hopefully have more of them come forward. Mr. McIlvaine is going to contact Bill Doyle to see if any of the family members that he represents are willing to come forward. You may remember that Bill Doyle represents a lot of family members, and he has said that about half of them think as we do. Radical Pragmatist and I were brainstorming about having an event just for the family members to speak. We would like to invite Dennis Kucinich, and Ron Paul to attend. Hopefully this will happen.

I heard someone mention something referred to as a "Special Order". I don't quite understand it, but apparently we can ask someone like Dennis Kucinich to introduce a "Special Order" on the floor of the House, which can be about requesting a new investigation, and he has to do it. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me about this topic will post something in this blog.

Eating times were exciting for me. I got to eat with people such as Jack Blood, Ian Woods, Bob McIlvaine, Peter Dale Scott, Michele Little, Sander Hicks, Mrs. Wallace and Jimmy, and many other people within the movement.

I learned a lot this weekend about the scientific aspects regarding 9/11. Steven Jones, and Jim Fetzer's presentation was very educational for me. I attended because I wanted to see if there was anything "new", and also to see Prof. Jones get his chance to respond to certain allegations. As a result, I learned that elements found after a nuclear explosion were not present at Ground Zero. That puts the "Mini-Nukes hypothesis" to rest. I learned that certain pictures used to promote the "Exotic Weaponry hypothesis" do not tell the whole story, and other pictures are in existence that do, and contradict that "hypothesis". That puts the "Exotic Weaponry hypothesis" to rest. The one thing that went through my mind during that presentation was what is the motivation of the people that promote this dangerous information? If it has been "debunked" like it has, why do you continue to promote it? I don't have the answer to that question, but I certainly have my suspicions. Credibility behind our message, I believe, is everything.

Michele Little wants to have a fund-raiser for first responders, and she wants me to help her. This could be very helpful for them because she is a family member that lost her firefighter brother. This will hopefully be good news for the first responders, and other people suffering.

I want to say thank you to everyone that attended this conference, to everyone that helped to make it happen, and to everyone that allowed me to interview them. Yes, there were problems, but this cause is more important than any one individual, and any one mistake. We must keep pushing forward for truth and justice to prevail. We have A LOT of momentum right now, and we must use it to the best of our ability.

Here's...

A link to the video. It's 358MB and in MOV format. I can't handle the bandwidth so please be gentle.

It was a pleasure to meet casseia, LEH, Elaine (I forget her online name), 7man, LeftWright, and YT. All 911Blogger.com users/posters.

dz, you should be very proud of your accomplishment/contribution to the movement. Everyone had great things to say about 911Blogger.com being the "central hub" of the movement, and how if you want to know about what's going on in the 9/11 world, this is the place to be.

Congratulations.

Everyone else that contributes to this site deserves congratulations as well.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Way to go Jon

Hearing your candid and thoughtful dedication to credibility gives me renewed hope for the future. This pivotal moment puts into crystaline clarity a direction forward with outstanding unity.

www.freewebs.com/springfield911truth
www.myspace.com/culturalrelativity

Thank you...

I gave a talk about credibility at the Grassroots workshop. I also read a message from Donna Marsh O'Connor. I hope someone posts that video soon.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Wish I could have been there.

Gee...

I wonder who voted this blog down.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Here's Google Video...

This is the entire 2hr 15min movie that includes the entire press conference as well as a 45 minute long interview with Dr. Peter Dale Scott.

Thanks to DHS for putting this up for me.



"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Please Cover or Post this Article on the Front-Page

The below article by me has recently been published on Infowars.net. It contains extensive documentation about the purported 9/11 "hijackers" being trained on U.S. military bases. It also contains a statistical analysis on the odds that the named individuals could be different people from the purported hijackers, which comes out to 1 in 21.7 billion (i.e., U.S. billion) odds (and that's only going by tribal names; if one were to include given names, the odds are many orders of magnitude greater).

"9/11 'Hijackers' Trained on U.S. Military Bases," James Redford, Infowars.net, February 24, 2007 http://infowars.net/articles/february2007/250207Hijackers.htm

This information deserves to be gotten out to people on a much wider basis, and I would like to see a front-page post dedicated to it so that people can better learn about it and discuss it. Best would be to actually post the entire article on 911blogger.com, so that it has its own copy.

Sorry if this is somewhat off-topic here, but the information contained therein is truly vital.

Thank you.

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"Terrorism is the health of the State."--James Redford, author of "Jesus Is an Anarchist," June 1, 2006 http://praxeology.net/anarchist-jesus.pdf

Show "Horrible Math" by JamesB

It's sweet of you to invite us over...

...but, believe it or not, we can't go rushing over to help you lot all the time. Jenny's been very busy in the garden today--just not up for your scintilating wit at the mo. Perhaps tomorrow.

How's our Alex? When I left last night, he was in a state. Hope the love is feeling better. ;-)

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

You Make a Number of Mistakes

The mathematics are correct, so far as they go. I was simply calculating odds, in the manner of dice rolls or card shuffling.

I'm not a statistician, so I was hoping that my article would spur individuals who are trained in statistics to do a more advanced analysis, i.e., probabilities. I'm aware that there are counter-intuitive results involved in statisticts, such as the birthday paradox, which is why I welcome a statistician to perform an analysis.

But the point is, that the odds of these six named individuals being different people from the named "hijackers" is by necessity truly staggering.

And your critique is faulty on a number of points. For example:

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For much of this, I am even struggling to figure out was his logic is. For starters, he is ignoring what his base population is. There were not only 6 hijackers, there were 19. Thirteen of the 19 hijackers names were not found in the population he is comparing to, but he is ignoring this. And out of the 6 names he picks, only 3 of them were actually found among the names of the military, the other 3 simply had addresses on their drivers licenses which they themselves picked to be military related. He cannot compare them to the estimated population of military students, since they were never found in this population to begin with.
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First of all, all the six named supposed "hijackers" were named by high-level U.S. military sources as having trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil. Apparently you're just going based upon my cursory bullet-point introductions to the news reports and assuming that that is the totality of the information. Yet I specified bellow said bullet-point introductions that these six individuals were all named by U.S. military officals as having trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil.

Second, the rest of the supposed 19 "hijackers" are irrelevant to this particular topic. What my analysis concerned itself with is odds that there could be six Arabs matching the surnames of Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmed Alnami, Ahmed Alghamdi, Hamza Alghamdi, Mohamed Atta, and Abdulaziz Alomari trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil, but without actually being the same people as these six named purported hijackers. Hence, the analysis concerns itself with all the Arabs alive in the world who could have such names. There is no causal connection between how many supposed 9/11 "hijackers" are claimed to exist and the odds that these six named individuals could be different Arabs from the purported hijackers with said names.

Third, your wrote:

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and comes up with a rough estimate of number of Arabs with the 4 surnames in question and comes up with 570,000 each for the names Ghamdi, Nami, or Atta (although he doesn't actually know because they aren't listed) ...
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Based upon the list I referenced, those names are either at 570,000 individuals with those tribal names, or more likely under that amount, since the list stops enumerating Arab tribal names below the 100 most common, and hence doesn't list any names with populations lower than that. Hence, I was being generous by taking the amount enumerated last on the list.

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"Terrorism is the health of the State."--James Redford, author of "Jesus Is an Anarchist," June 1, 2006 http://praxeology.net/anarchist-jesus.pdf

Math

The mathematics are correct, so far as they go. I was simply calculating odds, in the manner of dice rolls or card shuffling.

Yeah, but you misapply it so poorly as to be render the whole exercise meaningless. To use your analogy, what you are trying to do is predict a hand of 5 cards exactly in order, out of 300,000 attempts. But this is not what your models says.

These people were picked out by name out of the population. So they were not trying to pick an exact hand of 5 cards, they went through all 300,000 cards, until they found one that matched, and then did that 5 times. Obviously a much simpler task.

[edit] Actually that is understating it, what they actually did is look through 300,000 cards for 19 matches, and only found 3 of them.

And the military did not confirm all 6 names were military students. Three of them merely had their address listed as being military related, the military itself never said they actually trained.

Pensacola Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Florida: Newsweek reported that a high-ranking U.S. Navy source said that Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmad Alnami (both United Airlines 93) and Ahmed Alghamdi (United Airlines 175) listed their legal residences at 10 Radford Boulevard, a base roadway on which residences for foreign-military flight trainees are located. Saeed Alghamdi listed the address on two different car registrations. Ahmad Alnami and Ahmed Alghamdi listed the address on their driver licenses. The Washington Post reported that Saeed Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi attended. The Washington Post further reported that Ahmed Alnami and Hamza Alghamdi (United Airlines 175) listed their legal residence at the same address.

In most states you can list your address as just about anything you want. Nobody ever checks. Maybe they listed this figuring it would be a good cover if anyone ever asked.

Yet Again, You're Faulty

As I already told you above:

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First of all, all the six named supposed "hijackers" were named by high-level U.S. military sources as having trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil. Apparently you're just going based upon my cursory bullet-point introductions to the news reports and assuming that that is the totality of the information. Yet I specified bellow said bullet-point introductions that these six individuals were all named by U.S. military officals as having trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil.
""

You're committing the fallacy of assuming that having not mentioned it in the extract of my article you provide means that U.S. military officials didn't say individuals with the same names trained there. But said officials did.

From the Newsweek article that I reference in the extract of my article which you provide:

""
U.S. military sources have given the FBI information that suggests five of the alleged hijackers of the planes that were used in Tuesday’s terror attacks received training at secure U.S. military installations in the 1990s.

THREE OF THE alleged hijackers listed their address on drivers licenses and car registrations as the Naval Air Station in Pensacola, Fla.—known as the “Cradle of U.S. Navy Aviation,” according to a high-ranking U.S. Navy source.

Another of the alleged hijackers may have been trained in strategy and tactics at the Air War College in Montgomery, Ala., said another high-ranking Pentagon official. The fifth man may have received language instruction at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Tex. Both were former Saudi Air Force pilots who had come to the United States, according to the Pentagon source.

...

Military records show that the three used as their address 10 Radford Boulevard, a base roadway on which residences for foreign-military flight trainees are located. In March 1997, Saeed Alghamdi listed the address to register a 1998 Oldsmobile; five months later he used it again to register a second vehicle, a late model Buick. Drivers licenses thought to have been issued to the other two suspects in 1996 and 1998 list the barracks as their residences.
""

So it's not simply that these purported hijackers listed their addresses there (as you say): the military confirms they have records of individuals with the same names living there.

Moreover, the Washington Post article that I referenced in the same extract said:

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In addition, a man named Saeed Alghamdi graduated from the Defense Language Institute at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, while men with the same names as two other hijackers, Mohamed Atta and Abdulaziz Alomari, appear as graduates of the U.S. International Officers School at Maxwell Air Force Base, Ala., and the Aerospace Medical School at Brooks Air Force Base in San Antonio, respectively.
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"Terrorism is the health of the State."--James Redford, author of "Jesus Is an Anarchist," June 1, 2006 http://praxeology.net/anarchist-jesus.pdf

Show "Just to Summarize" by JamesB

Again, You're Faulty

You wrote,

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but if .0019 of a population of 300,000 is expected to have certain names, that means we can expect 570 people in that population to have those names.
""

No, 570 people would have *one* of those names if we were only talking about one person. But that section of the analysis is concerned about finding the odds that five people *all together* who have one of those names could be in that population *without being* the same people as the five named purported hijackers. Obviously the odds of that happening is far less.

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"Terrorism is the health of the State."--James Redford, author of "Jesus Is an Anarchist," June 1, 2006 http://praxeology.net/anarchist-jesus.pdf

All together?

They weren't "all together".

One supposedly studied at the Air War college in Alabama, another supposedly studied English in Texas, and the third supposedly studied at DLI in Monterey, CA. None of you conspiracy theorists have ever bothered to explain what he would be doing there. Working on his Korean I guess...

Again, You're Making Mistakes

Yes, *all together* in the sense of figuring out the odds of five named individuals being different people than the purported hijackers with the same names (i.e., just going based upon tribal names): of course not in the sense of them being on the same base, which isn't logically relevant to the analysis I conducted since I was calculating based upon the total population of Arabs trained on U.S. military bases on U.S. soil (and hence all bases on U.S. soil as a whole).

So far as "conspiracy theorists" go, look in the mirror, as you're being hypocritical and self-contradicting with that illogical charge (of which is being made as an ad hominem attack).

A conspiracy is simply when two or more people take part in a plan which involves doing something unrightful or untoward to another person or other people (of which plan may or may not be kept secret, i.e., secrecy is not a necessary component for actions to be a conspiracy).

Since obviously more than one person was involved in planning the 9/11 attacks, then *by definition* it is a conspiracy, even if one completely accepts the U.S. government's lying, self-serving, anti-historical, anti-factual, and provably false official fairy tale conspiracy theory concerning the 9/11 attacks. Hence, *by definition* the U.S. government's offical fairy tale is a conspiracy theory, as the U.S. government is putting forth a theory concerning the 9/11 attacks which involves a conspiracy. Therefore, *by definition* you are a conspiracy theorist, JamesB.

Moreover regarding conspiracies, they are ubiquitous (witness all the laws on the books against conspiracy, and how many people are routinely charged under said laws), and the most egregious perpetrators of murderously brutal conspiracies are governments upon their own innocent citizens. More than four times the amount of non-combatants have been systematically murdered for purely ideological reasons by their own governments within the past century than were killed in that same time-span from wars. From 1900 to 1923, various Turkish regimes killed from 3,500,000 to over 4,300,000 of its own Armenians, Greeks, Nestorians, and other Christians. Communist governments have murdered over 110 million of their own subjects since 1917. And Germany murdered some 16 million of it own subjects in the past century. (The preceding figures are from Prof. Rudolph Joseph Rummel's website at http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/ .)

All totaled, neither the private-sector crime which government is largely responsible for promoting and causing or even the wars committed by governments upon the subjects of other governments come anywhere close to the crimes government is directly responsible for committing against its own citizens--certainly not in amount of numbers. Without a doubt, the most dangerous presence to ever exist throughout history has always been the people's very own government.

Needless to say, all of these government mass-slaughters were conspiracies--massive conspiracies, at that.

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"Terrorism is the health of the State."--James Redford, author of "Jesus Is an Anarchist," June 1, 2006 http://praxeology.net/anarchist-jesus.pdf

Show "Huh?" by JamesB

Your Understanding Is Erroneous

I was replying to your comment,

""
They weren't "all together".

One supposedly studied at the Air War college in Alabama, another supposedly studied English in Texas, and the third supposedly studied at DLI in Monterey, CA.
""

Of which comment by you is faulty, as my analysis wasn't suggesting they were all on the same base.

So what is it that I mean? Well, I already told you: the odds that all five of these particular named individuals could be different people from the purported hijackers with the same names. Again, you had previously written,

""
but if .0019 of a population of 300,000 is expected to have certain names, that means we can expect 570 people in that population to have those names.
""

To which I replied,

""
No, 570 people would have *one* of those names if we were only talking about one person. But that section of the analysis is concerned about finding the odds that five people *all together* who have one of those names could be in that population *without being* the same people as the five named purported hijackers. Obviously the odds of that happening is far less.
""

In other words, in a manner of speaking, you're only considering the odds of rolling the die once, whereas I'm taking the odds of getting a specific result of the die rolled five times (or alternatively, five dice rolled once).

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"Terrorism is the health of the State."--James Redford, author of "Jesus Is an Anarchist," June 1, 2006 http://praxeology.net/anarchist-jesus.pdf

Show "Dude, you are clueless" by JamesB

I noticed this while studying the natives of the SLC tribe...

Most of them cannot conceive of the concept two intelligent persons disagreeing-a common enough event in real life, but apparently on-line disagreement equals stupidity.

Not to mention if their REAL goal is to expose the distortions in LC and 911Truth, or as I would put it, help people, one does not help people by insulting them JUST BECAUSE THEY DISAGREE. Or don't "understand".

It is essential for the identity of the SLC tribe to consider all who disagree as their enemies-anything else is taboo.

A baffling, mysterious people are the SLC tribe.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

This sums it up, Jen.

crimestop - Orwell's definition: "The faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. In short....protective stupidity."

It is about math

Jenny, this has absolutely nothing to do with whether I disagree with his conclusions regarding 9/11 or not. This is simply about math and logic. Math knows no politics. 1+1=2, regardless of whether you are Jim Fetzer or Dick Cheney. And his math is wrong. What is incredible is you people are so religiously devoted to your cause that you will completely ignore this fact. That is why you end up with these schisms and accussations of corruption and government infiltration and such.

Here, I will try one more attempt at explaining the math, in as simple terms as I can.

Let us say that the population of Arabs we are searching in, for similar names is a deck of 52 playing cards.

The hijacker names (not the hijackers themselves) that you are checking to see if they are represented as the cards Jack, Queen, and King of spades.

We are trying to see if they are present in this deck or not, that is the "coincidence" you are looking for.

Your approach is to figure the odds of each card (1 in 52) and then take it to the power (3) of the number of cards. This is not the same as the occurence of the cards in the deck though.

What you are actually mathematically modelling is shuffling the deck, and pulling the top card off of the deck, to see if it is a Jack of Spades (1 in 52 chance). Then shuffling the deck again, to see if it is a Queen of spades, and then shuffling it a third time to see if it is a King of spades.

The odds of this happening are then of course (1/52)^3 power. Then based on your model you repeat this whole exercise 52 times to see if you find those 3 cards in the deck in order. ((1/52))^3 *52. If you do the math you then proudly declare that the odds of those three cards being in the deck are 1 in 7,311,616.

This is entirely arbitrary though, you could repeat this exercise 5 million times and never find those cards in order, when it is obvious that those 3 cards are represented in a deck of 52 playing cards.

What the actual logic of the situation calls for though is, do those 3 cards exist in the deck. If you go through the entire deck, will you find them? What are the odds? Well the answer is of course yes. The odds are 1:1.

The investigators did not look for hijackers in specific locations of course, they ran the 19 names through databases, and came up with 3 hits for people with similar names. This is out of the total population, however big that might be, not out of the first 3 names they looked at.

In your hijacker analogy it is of course different than cards, even though we can expect 1,800 people to have the surname Omar, that doesn't mean with a certainty that there are 1,800. Hell, there is even a slight chance (very small) that there are none. But you can't calculate it using your approach.

How to really do the math

Incidently, if you want to actually work this out mathematically, you need to take the exact opposite approach. You need to calculate the odds that there is NOT someone with the surname in the target population. The reason you do this is you only need 1 person to prove the hypothesis false, it doesn’t matter if there is 1 or 500.

So to use your assumptions (I am not saying they are correct, but I am trying to keep this simple so that you understand). You estimated that the odds of a single Arab having the surname of Omar is .0062. If we reverse this, that means the odds of a single Arab NOT having the surname of Omar is .9938.

So if we then take your population of 300,000 Arabs, and line them up, this is how we calculate it. Take Arab #1, the odds are .9938 that he is NOT named Omar. Take Arab #2, the odds are also .9938 that he is not Omar, so the odds that both are not named Omar are .9938 * .9938. Now go to the third guy, we now see the odds of all three not being named Omar are .9938 ^ 3. So the odds for going through all 300,000 of our Arabs and NOT finding a single guy named Omar are .9938 ^ 300000, which is an insanely small number that I can’t even get Excel to calculate.

So rather than being extremely unlikely to find a name as you calculated, the odds of going through and NOT finding a single person with this name are very high.

This is of course a vast over simplification of the real world, since you are not accounting for first names, and the 300,000 population is probably a little high, but the point still stands that your approach is completely opposite the correct way.

Additionally to really calculate this, you would have to individually calculate the odds of each of the 19 hijackers, and then figure out the odds that at least 3 of those 19 names would be found.

Great job man! "Credibility

Great job man!

"Credibility behind our message, I believe, is everything.

^ Exactly!

Thanks...

If you watch the video, you will see me blow up on a few ocassions. I apologized to everyone at the press conference because it probably wasn't the best thing I could do. However, as I said before, you attack a family member, and all bets are off. I can only take so much.

By the way, the Phoenix New Times "journalist", and the screwloosechange person (the guy that asked about Nico) came together.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Go figure.

"By the way, the Phoenix New Times "journalist", and the screwloosechange person (the guy that asked about Nico) came together."

I'll bet Fetzer wasn't far behind, or would that be too obvious?

I think...

Fetzer, Reynolds, Woods, Haupts, and Siegels "messages" have been put to rest.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Archive.org Has Taken Down the Incriminating CNN Footage!

The incriminating CNN news footage has now been censored from Archive.org. See:

http://www.archive.org/download/cnn200109111545-1626/
http://ia311543.us.archive.org/1/items/cnn200109111545-1626/V08537-12.mpg
http://ia311543.us.archive.org/1/items/cnn200109111545-1626/V08537-12_64... (24,014,506 bytes)

As Big_D said ( http://911blogger.com/node/6451#comment-119482 ) regarding this footage:

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At about [4]:10:30 PM, at around 25min 30sec into the clip, CNN reports that building 7 "Has either collapsed or is collapsing". Someone knew something way ahead of when I previously thought.
""

Can someone who has this footage email me the relevant section or put it up online (i.e., on a website that isn't government-controlled)? My email address is jrredford@yahoo.com . I'm on dial-up, so please keep that in mind if you send me a file.

Thank you.

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"Terrorism is the health of the State."--James Redford, author of "Jesus Is an Anarchist," June 1, 2006 http://praxeology.net/anarchist-jesus.pdf

Figures.

I can probably reduce it to a couple hundred megs, or just the part I specified even smaller, but the quality will be pretty bad.

Anyone else working on anything concerning this clip?

This Is Vitally Important!

This CNN footage combined with the BCC footage is incriminating beyond all reckoning! There's no rational way to spin these videos: obviously one of the government terrorists jumped the gun on their script and was issuing statements to the news agencies that WTC 7 had either already came down, or was coming down right then. No wonder the government's minions are taking these videos down.

All we really need is just the extract of the relevant passage you spoke of, along with a time-cue in the footage to establish the time. That hopefully shouldn't take up much file-space.

And yes, please send me such an extract or provide a non-controlled website where I can download it. Again, I'm on dial up, so try to keep it under 10 MB if possible.

And for God's sake, get it out to the Infowars staff, and any other bona fide Truth websites that will host it!

Thanks!

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"Terrorism is the health of the State."--James Redford, author of "Jesus Is an Anarchist," June 1, 2006 http://praxeology.net/anarchist-jesus.pdf

Grrr...ARGH!

Your video flips back to the begining in the middle of Jone's speaking and refuses to buffer past that!!!!

Should I just wait until you have it up here?

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

Try...

Downloading the whole thing before you watch it. It works for me. DHS is putting it on Video Google later.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

It doesn't like me :(

And do you ever check your email?

Same thing happened--suddenly stopped buffering after a minute or two.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

Oh well...

It's more important that you watch this anyway.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

The interesting part starts at approx 1:32:48

Col. Jenny: have you tried right-clicking and "saving target as"? That's what worked for me.

Nice to hear from you!

Thanks for the tip--will try.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

That's...

You!!! Don't tell anyone who comes after you though. Keep it a surprise.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Shhhhhh...

Dude, what are you doing? Talk about trying to keep things a surprise...

FYI....

I'm making three separate movies. One of the press conference, one of the shorter interviews, and one that is a 45 minute interview Dr. Peter Dale Scott was kind enough to give me. Apparently, people are having problems downloading the big file. I'm going as quickly as I can for those that really wanted to see this. :D


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

WTF...

Video Google isn't letting me upload any video, no matter what size it is.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

You can try...,

Downloading the big movie from here...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QJNCG8LU


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Here's one...



"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

I just found out...

That Michele Little has contacted John Feal, and spoke with him for a good hour today. Her brother David's birthday falls on the same day as the FealGood Foundation's benefit concert. She will be attending and appearing as his guest.

Hopefully just her being there will raise a lot of money for them, and give them even more exposure.

If people ask you what good has come from this conference... There's a GREAT example.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

I just found out...

That Eric Williams had a swastika on his laptop. In case anyone was wondering where Eric stands.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton