Incoming FDNY chaplain questions 9/11 story
This is big news, another Theologian doubting the story. Furthermore, his membership with the FDNY may encourage other firefighters to talk as well.
Incoming FDNY chaplain questions 9/11 story
An imam slated to be sworn in Friday as the second Muslim chaplain in Fire Department history said he questioned whether 19 hijackers were responsible for the Sept. 11 terror attacks, and suggested a broader conspiracy may have brought down the Twin Towers and killed more than 2,700 people.
In a telephone interview Thursday, Imam Intikab Habib, 30, a native of Guyana who studied Islam in Saudi Arabia, said he doubted the United States government's official story blaming 19 hijackers associated with al-Quaida and Osama bin Laden.
"I as an individual don't know who did the attacks," said Habib, 30, a soft-spoken man who immigrated to New York in July 2000 after spending six years in Saudi Arabia getting a degree in Islamic theology and law. "There are so many conflicting reports about it. I don't believe it was 19 ... hijackers who did those attacks."
Asked to elaborate on his reasons for doubting that story, he talked about video and news reports widely disseminated in the Muslim community.
"I've heard professionals say that nowhere ever in history did a steel building come down with fire alone," he said. "It takes two or three weeks to demolish a building like that. But it was pulled down in a couple of hours. Was it 19 hijackers who brought it down, or was it a conspiracy?"
Questioned about who he believed was responsible for the attacks, Habib said he didn't know. He said, however, that he did not expect to raise his doubts with rank-and-file firefighters -- nor did he share them two weeks ago when he participated in several Sept. 11 memorials on behalf of the Fire Department.
"My position as a chaplain is that whoever did it, it's a tragic incident," he said. "I feel sorrow for the families who lost loved ones and for the firefighters who died in it. Whoever did it, it was a very wrong thing. It's always wrong to take an innocent human life."
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She asked who I was
She asked who I was affiliated with... "errr... 911... Truth... something" as if she'd already known of their existence... so I said, "yeah, I'm with 911Truth.org"... "I called to tell you that I support Mr. Habib's right to believe what he wants, and that I agree with his stance." and she asked, "Where are you from?", and I told her... then I thanked her for writing the story, and she said, "I'm just reporting the news", which I thought was rather refreshing... then she said they're coming out with a follow-up tomorrow about why he was asked to resign. She also said that Nick Levis from 911Truth.org is going to be in an article or something...
Mayor Bloomberg's comment,
Mayor Bloomberg's comment, or more specifically, Mayor Bloomberg's spokesman's comment, on the resignation of the FDNY Chaplain -- "The remarks were offensive and the mayor is satisfied that the chaplain has resigned."
Thats absurd, how are his
Thats absurd, how are his remarks offensive?
Everyone, tell Bloomberg what you think:
http://www.nyc.gov/portal/index.jsp?epi_menuItemID=bd08ee7c7c1ffec87c4b3...
Email Bloomberg and tell him
Email Bloomberg and tell him what you think:
http://www.nyc.gov/portal/index.jsp?epi_menuItemID=bd08ee7c7c1ffec87c4b3...
So now it appears he has
So now it appears he has resigned because of these statements.
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/nyc-imam01,0,884205.story?coll...
Shows you how taboo this subject is. Also show how big this story got
you have to wake up. Wake up
you have to wake up. Wake up or stay afraid, and let those who commited those atrocities get away with what they've done.
I can't let that happen. I won't let that happen. I REFUSE to let that happen.
NO ONE can force you to look at the facts. That's something you have to decide for yourself. If you do, I and others will be there to help you understand what happened TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
NONE of us know exactly what happened that day. We DO know A LOT of what wasn't told to us, and what hasn't been followed up on, or addressed.
Don't let this article get to you because it is VERY one-sided.
That is an excellent
That is an excellent idea!!!
Here's a site you can upload comments to Bloomberg from:
http://www.nyc.gov/portal/index.jsp?epi_menuItemID=bd08ee7c7c1ffec87c4b3...
Spread this message around, lets fill up his inbox.
dz... isn't your bandwidth
dz... isn't your bandwidth still down?
Here's a thought: Send a
Here's a thought: Send a petition to Bloomberg and his press person Skyler saying that we support the man's comments and that Skyler does not know shit about 9/11! How's that sound?
blimp pilot... please
blimp pilot... please explain "bogus plane theory"...
"Here's a thought: Send a
"Here's a thought: Send a petition to Bloomberg and his press person Skyler saying that we support the man's comments and that Skyler does not know shit about 9/11! How's that sound?"
It sounds like a complete waste of time. If you think about it just a little, you can easily guess what Bloomberg would do with this petition.
It would be far more useful to protest in front of firestations can call for the "re-instatement" of Habib's candicacy for chaplain. The idea would be to use this opportunity to spread 911 truth to fellow citizens.
Bloomberg is as receptive to 911 truth as is Guiliani, Bush or Cheney. I.e., not at all.
It's too bad that Habib crumbled so quickly. Any chance he'll reconsider?
I've noticed lately some
I've noticed lately some sites that ostensibly promote 9/11 truth are headlining that slightly-starbursty image of sunlight between the 2 WTC towers.
That image has been misused to death by Christian groups. Apparently they see a religious cross in that light pattern. I find it despicable to try to to turn 9/11 into something religious, when it is not.
Please keep in mind that all the best disinformation about 9/11 is intended to steer out minds into believing (or away from even questioning) that 19 Muslim hijackers ("them", not "us") can be blamed for 9/11...
p.s. my computer and all of
p.s. my computer and all of my possessions are in boxes for a few days, so keep up the good work ;)
Here is what I posted, feel
Here is what I posted, feel free to reuse these comments, but definitely send something:
Regarding comments made by Imam Intikab Habib, I support him completely and his right to free speech.
Furthermore, I don't know how such opinions could prevent him from effectively doing his job. Millions of others, including myself share the same opinion.
Hey Jon, you talked to the
Hey Jon, you talked to the author of this article? What questions did she ask you?
"I was referring to you." I
"I was referring to you."
I kind of figured that, and it is a valid question!!!
I just spoke to Carol
I just spoke to Carol Eisenberg, and she asked me a WHOLE bunch of questions, and is probably going to list me, and my "story" in a new article that she's writing, but there is going to be a FOLLOWUP story tomorrow regarding him being asked to resign. FYI...
http://www.newsday.com/news/l
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/nyc-imam01,0,884205.story?trac...
http://www.yourbbsucks.com/fo
http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5122
ah... you beat me to it...
ah... you beat me to it...
http://www.yourbbsucks.com/fo
http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5123
NY Times 9/30: "FDNY
NY Times 9/30: "FDNY Chaplain Resigns After Remarks About 9/11 Conspiracy Theory"
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/30/nyregion/30wire-chaplain.html
Where is the talk of
Where is the talk of "Freedom Of Speech"? Where is the talk of political beliefs not being a factor in the hiring and firing of someone? Where is the talk of the other Firemen who believe otherwise? Why is it easier for him as a Muslim to concieve of it? Because Muslims were behind it? Ok, maybe that eases his guilt, but what about American guilt due to the fact that Americans were involved as well?
It wasn't easy for ANY OF US to come to terms with the impossible.
Yet, when ALL of the facts, and NOT just those brought forth by our Government point in a certain direction, EVENTUALLY
Is the guy who posted this
Is the guy who posted this story credible?
Hey, this gets better, if
Hey, this gets better, if you look at the Newsday site who posted this story, they have a link to the printed edition of the paper, and look at the front page:
http://www.nynewsday.com/news/printedition/
As for credibility, I don't know, a staff writer wrote the story, question being, is Newsday credible?
Here is some information about Newsday, looks like its been around for 50 years:
http://www.newsday.com/about/ny-abouthistory,0,1986718.htmlstory?coll=ny...
I was referring to you. ;)
I was referring to you. ;)
great find somebigguy! keep
great find somebigguy! keep up the good work!