New Facts Emerge On 9-11 Financing

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

Researchers and investigators have uncovered links between a Miami bank that collapsed in 2002 amid a fraud scandal that was highlighted by billions of dollars in questionable cash and fraudulent loans and money movements linked to the Bush family and businesses linked to funding pilot training for the 9-11 hijackers.
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Now defunct Hamilton Bank: Interesting clients

As previously reported by WMR last July (Intelligence Whispers), "In 1995, a $10 million transfer was made to Houston. The source was the Saudi Royal family. The funds were transferred to Nations Bank via Banca Svizzera Italiana via SWIFT. On September 28, 1995, a $50,000 check was cashed at Nation's Bank of Pasadena, Texas. It allegedly originated from the $10 million of transferred funds from Saudi Arabia and the payee was "Fayyaz Ahmed." Fayyaz Ahmed, aka Fayez Ahmad, was also named as one of the hijackers aboard United 175 that crashed into the South Tower of the World Trade Center
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According to information recently obtained by WMR, the facts about the money transfer are maintained in the Superior Court of Arizona, Maricopa County, "In the Matter of the Proceeds of Account 41C-07029 RDC Holdings Co. , Inc." The FBI in Arizona has investigated the case but may be under pressure not to follow certain leads that could lead to the Bush family and their business associates.

According to a source close to the case, the $10 million was moved from Bluelake World SA, a Switzerland-based firm, via Topaz Liberty and Andromeda International (both Panamanian firms), to the account of Southwest Services of Houston, the account from which Fayyaz Ahmed was paid $50,000. Another intermediary for the funds transfer was reportedly Hamilton House of Nassau, Bahamas, a possible off-shore entity of Hamilton Bank in Miami. The financial network that moved the $10 million to Arizona and Texas reportedly has close links to Potomac Capital, a Geneva-based entity set up by CIA Director George H. W. Bush in 1976.
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I have trouble following these articles, but if you can, here is another article on following the 9/11 Money Trail: http://www.911citizenswatch.org

Does Madsen provide any

Does Madsen provide any source for his claims? Read his article: none whatsoever. Zero. No argument why Fayyaz Ahmad is identical to the alleged hijacker named by the FBI as Fayez Rashid.

Can't we impose a bit more minimal critical thinking and journalistic standard here?

Sorry, sorry, but I think

Sorry, sorry, but I think you are overly harsh on Madsen.

Hey all, please vote in this

Hey all, please vote in this poll regarding Scholars for Truth:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/1/27/21637/2991

Please, it's not about who's

Please, it's not about who's harsh.

What is Madsen's source for the Ahmad aliases? How does he connect Ahmad to the Rashid listed as a hijacker by the FBI? No indication in his article.

"Does Madsen provide any

"Does Madsen provide any source for his claims? Read his article: none whatsoever. Zero"

He cites 'researchers and investigators' as well as 'insiders.' Granted, he isn't naming names, but sometimes that is how things are done. I think this is more than zero, and that you are too harsh.

I'll give some thought to the Ahmad claim, but even assuming he jumped to a conclusion here (he may not have), that doesn't deny he may be onto an important story more generally.

He cites anonymous sources

He cites anonymous sources with regard to the bank money story (Fayyez Ahmad). Fine.

He cites no sources for connecting Ahmad to Rashid, for the list of Ahmad aliases, or even for the long full version of Rashid's name supposedly listed by the FBI.

Anonymous sources or not, this is not written as a properly sourced news piece.

Well, I managed to find an

Well, I managed to find an FBI list in which F. Rashid is listed as F. Ahmad.

http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/091401hj.htm

Also, Ahmad appears as one of the 175 hijackers in the Moussaoui indictment.

http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/moussaouiindictment.htm

So, Madsen was right. At least, that the alleged hijacker known as F. Rashid was also aliased (according to the FBI) as F. Ahmad, and apparently connected to the accounts Madsen speaks of.

Sorry.

That being said, Madsen needs to edit himself properly to clear these kinds of misunderstandings up. A well written piece would have laid out the sourcing of the aliases (which are public domain) for any reader to immediately understand, otherwise many will read the piece and react as I did.

He cites anonymous sources

He cites anonymous sources with regard to the bank money story (Fayyez Ahmad). Fine.

He cites no sources for connecting Ahmad to Rashid, for the list of Ahmad aliases, or even for the long full version of Rashid's name supposedly listed by the FBI.

Anonymous sources or not, this is not written as a properly sourced news piece.
sorry | 01.29.06 - 6:47 pm | #

where is the sourcing for the official theory? Colin Powell promised a white paper that proved Bin Laden did it?

where is this paper?

Robert Mueller has gone on record as saying that the identities of the hijackers are in doubt...yet those same 19 pictures are still there...even after many have been interviewed in foreign newspapers.

if anyone can show proof that bin laden did it (not counting obvious fake videos and audio clips or government agencies that have motive to lie) they should publish it so we can get on with our lives.

No proof you say?

forget about being pissed at Wayne Madsen....we should be pissed ay every member of our government who is ducking the truth, ignoring the facts and goes about their fundraising for the next round of elections.

Everyone of them ought to be voted out, except Ron Paul, Cynthia McKinney, Dennis Kucinich and maybe one or two more. Pressure should be applied to them all. We should have candidates running against them in every election, every primary, every public appearance until it becomes unbearable for them to walk outside.

forget about protesting the president where the police state is jacked up to the roof. we should be protesting outside our rep's district offices 24/7, making them acknowledge us or defend themselves against our verbal attacks.

We should not rest until they all are gone OR they start doing their jobs.

huh? Why did my later post

huh?

Why did my later post (establishing that Rashid and Ahmad were both allegedly used as aliases by the Fayez the FBI lists and so apologizing to Madsen) appear before my earlier one?

rayray, your argument is irrelevant.

The government not providing backing for their claims is what we should be pointing out. Very well done.

This does not empower us to just make up our own claims, however. Their fabricated evidence is not an excuse for any junk from our side. We can only win by sticking to standards of truth, otherwise we convince no one new.

That being said... the sheer number of Fayez Rashid Ahmad aliases is stunning.

How can they pretend they actually know who the fuck they're dealing with?