Experts Claim Official 9/11 Story is a Hoax

It seemed like we were long overdue for an explosive story, well this seems to be it, much of the press is reporting it. Contact your member of congress and the media, send them this link and tell them that scholars are asking these questions and it should no longer be ignored. This is great ammunition, spread it around!!!

- A group of distinguished experts and scholars, including Robert M. Bowman, James H. Fetzer, Wayne Madsen, John McMurtry, Morgan Reynolds, and Andreas von Buelow, have concluded that senior government officials have covered up crucial facts about what really happened on 9/11.

They have joined with others in common cause as members of "Scholars for 9/11 Truth" (S9/11T), because they are convinced, based on their own research, that the administration has been deceiving the nation about critical events in New York and Washington, D.C.

These experts suggest these events may have been orchestrated by elements within the administration to manipulate Americans into supporting policies at home and abroad they would never have condoned absent "another Pearl Harbor."

They believe that this White House is incapable of investigating itself and hope the possibility that Congress might hold an unaccountable administration accountable is not merely naive or wishful thinking.

They are encouraging news services around the world to secure scientific advice by taking advantage of university resources to verify or to falsify their discoveries. Extraordinary situations, they believe, require extraordinary measures.

If this were done, they contend, one of the great hoaxes of history would stand naked before the eyes of the world and its perpetrators would be clearly exposed, which may be the only hope for saving this nation from ever greater abuse.

They hope this might include The New York Times, which, in their opinion, has repeatedly failed to exercise the leadership expecedt from our nation's newspaper of record by a series of inexplicable lapses. It has failed to vigorously investigate tainted elections, lies leading to the war in Iraq, or illegal NSA spying on the American people, major unconstitutional events. In their view, The Times might compensate for its loss of stature by helping to reveal the truth about one of the great turning-point events of modern history.

"...much of the mainstream

"...much of the mainstream press is reporting it..."

PRWeb on Yahoo news is where I located the story

It is highly rec'd

Other than PRWeb, it appears to be leprosy for the other newswires...

Please... Prove me wrong

RF... I think SBG didn't

RF... I think SBG didn't understand that yahoo sometimes posts stories from other sources as "news". Such as Arianna Huffington's site, etc...

It's certainly not all over the "mainstream press" by ANY means...

However... this story IS circulating all over the internet. That much is true.

I wish this story would get

I wish this story would get out more...The People need to WAKE UP!

Its being distributed by

Its being distributed by PRWeb news wire service. Looks like Duluth picked it up. I found it by creating an alert for "David Ray Griffin" on my yahoo page.

I'm putting some of Stephen Jones coverage together with these new press releases and creating booklets which I take over to CBS and NBC news.

Critical mass will be achieved if we the people of the internet keep fanning the viral flames of truth.


Sorry guys, a little

Sorry guys, a little optimistic on my part, but this story does seem to be getting around...

I removed "mainstream"!!!

I removed "mainstream"!!!

That's one of my favorite

That's one of my favorite openings for people... here we have a list of scholars who question the official narrative of 9/11. Don't you think that's "newsworthy"? Why isn't the media covering it?

You could say the same for

You could say the same for anything that's been "newsworthy" in the past, and hasn't been covered. Depleted uranium, Sibel Edmonds, Any of the 9/11 Omission Hearings/Congressional Briefings, etc...

I know nobody likes Ruppert,

I know nobody likes Ruppert, but when he came out publicly on 9/9/2004, and named Cheney as the culprit behind 9/11, I sent the press release to all of my friends, posted it everywhere, and pushed the "Why aren't they covering it" angle. You would think that would be newsworthy? A man publicly accuses the Vice President of the United States with murder, and the news doesn't cover it? WHAT?!?!?

Jon, Ruppert is one man,

Jon, Ruppert is one man, many people have accussed Cheney of murder among other things.(i mean shit,George H.W. Bush sat on the board of directors of Carlyle with Bin Ladens brother,thats a FACT and the MSM ignores it) its going to take somebody with a very high profile,and with nothing to lose to be listened to by the MSM. the only way they will cover 9/11 truth is if its shoved down their throats by a "respected" politician or government official. unfortunately.

But no one accused him of

But no one accused him of direct involvement in the planning of 9/11... until that day...

i know, but my point was,

i know, but my point was, people accuse him of that now, respected foreign government officials even, but it just gets ignored. Ruppert is just an ex-cop to the media, not much more. we need a respected american politician or high level government offcial with nothing to lose to start bringing the tough questions to light. Ruppert is just one man, and not a very well respected one at that.he could say George W. Bush is the son of satan and nobody would care.(although his father is a good candidate for the anti-christ, hes seemingly been connected to almost every amercian atrocity in his lifetime.)

(case in point,i found this

(case in point,i found this earlier)The one,
single name that can be directly linked to the Third Reich, the US military industrial complex, Skull and Bones, Eastern Establishment good ol' boys, the Illuminati, Big Texas Oil, the Bay of Pigs, the Miami Cubans, the Mafia, the FBI, the JFK assassination, the New World Order, Watergate, the Republican National Committee, Eastern European fascists, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the United Nations, CIA headquarters, the October Surprise, the Iran/Contra scandal, Inslaw, the Christic Institute, Manuel Noriega, drug-running death squads, Iraqgate, Saddam Hussein, weapons of mass destruction, the blood of innocents, the savings and loan crash, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, the "Octopus," the "Enterprise," the Afghan mujaheddin, the War on Drugs, Mena, Sun Myung Moon, the Carlyle Group, Osama bin Laden and the Saudi royal family, David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, and the presidency and vice-presidency of the United States, is: George Herbert Walker Bush

I'm saying... you would

I'm saying... you would think at least the local news would have covered it considering Cynthia McKinney was there, etc...

Incidentally, I don't think the "Skull & Bones", or the "Illuminati" control the world. My father is a Mason. That doesn't mean he's a member of the "Illuminati", etc... I have no doubt that business probably takes place between powerful individuals in those organizations. I have no doubt that knowing powerful people in high places has its' benefits. However, I don't think of those organizations control the world. I have no doubt that people in those organizations do.

Understand what I'm saying? As far as the Council on Foreign relations, and the Trilateral Commission, the Fed, etc... that's a whole 'nuther ball o' wax.

I don't think those

I don't think those organizations control the world. Take out "of"...

Seperating fact from

Seperating fact from fiction: Yeah, the whole Skull and Bones/Illuminati/Bohemian Grove thing is entertaining to an extent, but there comes a time when ya have to seperate activism from conspiracy theory. I'm a big fan of Alex Jones, but like Michael Moore, I take away the fact from the fiction and enjoy it on an entertainment level. I do find it hypocritical of some of these folks to say how great the foundign fathers are, then say Freemasonry is evil. Gimme a break. Freemasons would be some of the first people to help out after a state sponsored attack like 9/11, not part of it.

Why are people against Michael Rupert? I first saw him in 1996 on Dateline about the CIA crack scandal, and thought 'well there is one brave ex cop'. It's too bad that article wasn't a front page Yahoo news thing, tho I do remember the Tucker Carlson 9/11 thing being on the front page of back in November.

Again, I think true 9/11 activism needs to be seperated from the entertaining but grey area world of conspiracy theory, if people are going to take it seriously. Otherwise people go 'oh yeah, like Bigfoot and UFOs!".

no offense, but Micheal

no offense, but Micheal Moore is a pile of shit compared to Alex Jones.

and pockybot, what you call

and pockybot, what you call conspiracy theory, i call pretty damn well close to fact. George H.W. Bush had his hand in all of those things i listed. most of which has been documented.i know its hard for some people to swallow, but that doesnt mean we should ignore those things.W's daddy had his hand in both Kennedy killings, the Reagan attempt, and lets be realistic, the guy most likely had a hand in 9/11(he was at a hotel with a member of the Bin Laden family while the towers were burning.)im not saying the 9/11 truth movement should focus on "the illuminati" or whatever, but it doesnt make any sense to pretend these things dont exist.

and no, i could care less

and no, i could care less about bigfoot and UFO's, i only deal with the tangible.

"...much of the press is

"...much of the press is reporting it..."

I would say that barely any press is covering it.

You probably know all

You probably know all these:

and synthetic terror is downloadable on

Reporting truth doesn't pay

Reporting truth doesn't pay as good as spreading lies, so the mainstream can't report it.

Oh I've spent years

Oh I've spent years researching all the aforementioned stuff. I know all about the origins of the Federal Reserve, the Bush Sr-Bay of Pigs JKF connection, etc. I'm just saying there is a tendency to link everything and make a conspiracy behind everything.

For me, the bin Laden family connection doesn't add to anything in my book. Because in my estimation, Dubya is simply the figurehead. People focus on Bush, but I seriously doubt he had any foreknowlege of 9/11. I think he was kept at the classroom on purpose so as to be kept out of the loop(and then flown the opposite way to Offut AFB)

In the scheme of things, the public at large definately is in the dark about most things. They cannot see that the same corrupt institution that could be behind say, Tuskeegee, MK Ultra, Watergate, CIA crack cocaine funding,
Iran Contra, JFK, Kinnsger's coup-assasination-geocide mongering, etc could ever do something on the scale of 9/11. So in that sense, popular conspiracy fodder is connected ...tho I agree with the notion that it's easy to sexy up the truth.

Anyways, curious if that Pentagon attack footage they'll be using in the Moussoui trial will ever be made public.

In the url why does it say

In the url why does it say "...bs_prweb/prweb339303_5"?
BS? Bullshit?

Ah never mind. BS = business

Ah never mind. BS = business :)

Here's another

My Dad is also a Mason, and

My Dad is also a Mason, and was a Commander in the Knights Templar (Funny Hat Clubs). He moved the rest of my family to Idaho in the 70's, when (I later learned) they wanted to turn it into an all white state. My relationship with him has been very strained since my Mother passed. I have not talked to him about 9/11. I only started to learn the truth in '04.

There is which I don't believe I have seen mentioned here. This is a very religious site. Scroll down past the books and DVDs (also interesting) to News. I check it out to see what their take on things is. Generally speaking, they believe that the Illuminati is following Bible prophesy to bring their Masonic Anti-Christ to power, which will probably be the next Pope, after the Christians have been discredited. They are down on Christian rock, Harry Potter and Gays, but they discuss 9/11, NWO, etc. all the time. Also,
Signing off. Big night in L.A. here.

Jon Gold, concerning your

Jon Gold, concerning your comments on Michael Ruppert, Alex Jones was saying on *day one* of the U.S. government-staged 9/11 attacks and even *before* the 9/11 attacks that the White House was directly involved in said U.S. government-staged terrorism. (As I've detailed before, Alex Jones was saying months before the 9/11 attacks that the globalists were going to stage attacks in the U.S. and blame Osama bin Laden, and he urged people to call the White House and the Congress to tell them that we know who to blame when the attacks occur--Alex called this campaign "Operation Expose the Government Terrorists.")

So your above statement that no one before September 9, 2004 accused Dick Cheney of being directly involved (i.e., complicit) in the U.S. government-staged 9/11 PsyOps attacks is simply false, Jon Gold. Alex Jones accused the high-level White House personages (i.e., Dick Cheney, Bush, Jr., etc.) of being complicit in the U.S. government-staged 9/11 months before the attacks even occured!

But Dick Cheney and the Bushes are just puppets of the higher-level globalist elite, i.e., the European royalty and international central bankers (in that order).

Reuters publicly acknowledges that the Bilderberg group of European royalty and international central bankers groomed Bill Clinton and Tony Blair for the U.S. Presidency and British Prime Ministry, respectively:

"Secretive Bilderberg group to meet in Sweden," Peter Starck, Reuters, May 23, 2001:

Although the Clintons and the Bushes are long-time close family friends going back even before their drug-running operation in Mena, Arkansas. And John Kerry and Bushes Sr. and Jr. are all Bonesmen in the occult sociey of the Brotherhood of Death (a.k.a. the Order of Skull & Bones at Yale), of which occult society was instrumental in the funding of Hitler and the Nazis. Bonesman Prescott Bush (Bush, Sr.'s father) had one of his banks and a number of his companies seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act for his financing of the Nazis even during wartime. It's also interesting to note that the skull and bones symbol used by the Brotherhood of Death is the same symbol worn on the Nazi SS uniform.

For more information on the Bilderberg group, see the below news archive:

See also:

"Elite power brokers' secret talks," Emma Jane Kirby, BBC News, May 15, 2003:

"World government in action," Joseph Farah,, May 16, 2003:

"The masters of the universe," Pepe Escobar, Asia Times, May 22, 2003:

And as the below BBC Radio report reveals, the European Union and the euro European Union single-currency were both secretly planned since the first Bilderberg meeting in 1954:

BBC Bilderberg Report: European Union, Single Currency Planned Since 50's

BBC uncovered incredible archived Bilderberg documents which confirmed that both the EU and the Euro were the brainchild of Bilderberg. ...

"Club Class," Simon Cox, BBC Radio, July 3, 2003:

To the best of my

To the best of my understanding, until Masons 'achieve' their vaunted 33rd 'degree', they can be thought of as dupes and useful idiots regarding the true sinister(? apparently...) covert agenda of the hidden string-pullers. (Lower-degree Masons probably know, or at least suspect, but have not yet been officially brought in on the secret hidden agenda[s]. And, of course, such lower-ranking members are under social pressures to not "betray" their fellow -- much less "higher-ranking" -- secret club members. Those pressures grow until, by the 32nd degree, 'no' secret is too much for them to (try to) keep. Nothing like a flock of sheep and sheepdogs to provide cover for wolves in sheep(dog)'s clothing...)

The man who represented the Dems in the '04 "election" against my Congresscritter-for-life Joel Hefley, Fred Hardee, is (well, was, at least) a 32nd degree Mason.

The man who apparently will be representing the Dems in '06 against Hefley (or whoever; this district is a Republican stronghold due to military madness), Jay Fawcett, is an SAIC guy. I have no clue if he is a member of a "secret society" (ie, a fancy-schmancy cult), but SAIC is certainly among the entities which benefitted from (and participated in? quarterbacked?) 9/11. (SAIC is employee-owned, which seems to turn the military-industrial complex into even more of a pyramid scheme.)

One of the Masons' core theme tactics appears to be that of fake/staged opposition. People love to fall for that approach (simply present two opposing sides or champions and nearly everyone will line up with one or "the other", and then focus on each other instead of the big picture) nearly every time. Consider how the reaction to 9/11 [evidence] reveals that Dems do not oppose Reps, yet most people remain incapable of breaking free from that age-old false paradigm (one which is big and powerful enough to keep the truth about 9/11 concealed), including many self-proclaimed 9/11 skeptics. One monster, two heads. (graphic is from the cover of the Masonic 'handbook' Morals and Dogma, which talks an awful lot about despotism.) Fake opposition fools most of the people most of the time, repeatedly. So does thinking of institutions as monolithic entities (fake togetherness/friendship, the alter ego of fake opposition) in which most people believe that everyone in the entity knows the same info and pulls in the same direction (consider "the CIA" and "the FBI and "the government" -- the labels help sell/cover the lie, given how language and thought are inextricably linked)...

911blimp, you are quite

911blimp, you are quite correct in your above comments concerning members of Freemasonry. Most Masons are dues-paying dupes who don't realize that the highest level of Freemasonry is quite literally Lucifer-worship and New World Order global elitisim.

Indeed, the highest-level Freemasonic authorities and writers say this themselves in their very own writings!


There exists in the world today, and has existed for thousands of years, a body of enlightened humans united in what might be termed, an Order of the Quest. It is composed of those whose intellectual and spiritual perceptions have revealed to them that civilization has secret destiny ...

The outcome of this "secret destiny" is a World Order ruled by a King with supernatural powers.

This King was descended of a divine race; that is, he belonged to the Order of the Illumined, for those who come to a state of wisdom then belong to a family of heroes--perfected human beings.

--Manly Palmer Hall, 33° Freemason, The Secret Destiny of America (1958) (That is, nineteen fifty-eight; this message board wants to put emoticons where they are not wanted.)


Freemasonry is a fraternity within a fraternity. ... an outer organization concealing an inner Brotherhood of the elect ... it is necessary to establish the existence of these two separate and yet interdependent orders, the one visible the other invisible. The visible society is a splendid camaraderie of 'free and accepted' men enjoined to devote themselves to ethical, educational, fraternal, patriotic, and humanitarian concerns. The invisible society is a secret and most August fraternity whose members are dedicated to the service of a mysterious arcannum arcandrum.

--Manley Palmer Hall, 33° Freemason, Lectures on Ancient Philosophy, pg. 433


When The Mason learns that the Key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the Mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply this energy.

--Manly Palmer Hall, 33° Freemason, The Lost Keys Of Freemasonry, pg. 48


I hereby promise the Great Spirit Lucifuge, Prince of Demons, that each year I will bring unto him a human soul to do with as as it may please him, and in return Lucifuge promises to bestow upon me the treasures of the earth and fulfil my every desire for the length of my natural life. If I fail to bring him each year the offering specified above, then my own soul shall be forfeit to him. Signed ....... {Invocant signs pact with his own blood}

--Manly Palmer Hall, 33° Freemason, The Secret Teachings of All Ages (1928), pg. CIV: ,


Manly Hall's great work is a classic in the world's literature. It will guide historians, philosophers, and lay seekers of esoteric wisdom for centuries.

--Edgar Mitchell, Sc.D., Apollo 14 Astronaut, on Manly Palmer Hall's The Secret Teachings of All Ages, published by The Philosophical Research Society (P.R.S.):


Illustrious Manly Palmer Hall, often called "Masonry's Greatest Philosopher" ...

Like Grand Commander Albert Pike before him, [Illustrious] Hall did not teach a new doctrine but was an ambassador of an ageless tradition of wisdom that enriches us to this day. ... The world is a far better place because of Manly Palmer Hall, and we are better persons for having know him and his work.

--Scottish Rite Journal, September 1990


LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darknesss! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!

--Albert Pike, 33° Freemason and Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council 33° (Southern Jurisidiction, U.S.A.), Morals and Dogma (1871), "19°--Grand Pontiff," pg. 321: ,


Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled, to conceal the truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it. Truth is not for those who are unworthy or unable to receive it, or would pervert it.

--Albert Pike, 33° Freemason and Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council 33° (Southern Jurisidiction, U.S.A.), Morals and Dogma (1871), pg. 104: ,


The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry ... It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain.

--Albert Pike, 33° Freemason and Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council 33° (Southern Jurisidiction, U.S.A.), Morals and Dogma (1871): ,


Every Masonic Lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion.

--Albert Pike, 33° Freemason and Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council 33° (Southern Jurisidiction, U.S.A.), Morals and Dogma (1871), pg. 213: ,


There is in nature one most potent force, by means whereof single man, who could possess himself of it, and should know how to direct it, could revolutionize and change the face of the world.

This force was known to the ancients. It is a universal age whose supreme law is equilibrium; and whereby, if science can but learn how to control it, it will be possible to change the order of the Seasons, to produce in night the phenomena of day, to send a thought in an instant round the world, to heal or slay at a distance, to give our words universal success, a make them reverberate everywhere.

This agent, partially revealed by the blind guesses of the disciples of Mesmer, is precisely what the Adepts of the middle ages called the elementary matter of the great work. The Gnostics held that it composed the igneous body of the Holy Spirit; it was adored in the secret rites of the Sabbat or the Temple, under the hieroglyphic figure of Baphomet or the hermaphrodic goat of Mendes.

--Albert Pike, 33° Freemason and Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council 33° (Southern Jurisidiction, U.S.A.), Morals and Dogma (1871): ,


If your wife, child, or friend should ask you anything about your invitation--as for instance, if your clothes were taken off, if you were blind folded, if you had a rope tied around you neck, etc., you must conceal ... hence of course you must deliberately lie about it. It is part of your obligation ...

--Albert Pike, 33° Freemason and Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council 33° (Southern Jurisidiction, U.S.A.), Morals and Dogma (1871), pg. 74: ,


The true esoteric view about "Satan," the opinion held on this subject by the whole philosophic antiquity, is admirably brought out in an appendix, entitled 'The Secret of Satan,' to the second edition of Dr. A. Kingsford's "Perfect Way." No better and clearer indication of the truth could be offered to the intelligent reader, and it is therefore quoted here at some length: --


It is "Satan who is the god of our planet and the only god," and this without any allusive metaphor to its wickedness and depravity. For he is one with the Logos, "the first son, eldest of the gods," in the order of microcosmic (divine) evolution; Saturn (Satan), astronomically, "is the seventh and last in the order of macrocosmic emanation, being the circumference of the kingdom of which Phoebus (the light of wisdom, also the Sun) is the centre." The Gnostics were right, then, in calling the Jewish god "an angel of matter," or he who breathed (conscious) life into Adam, and he whose planet was Saturn.

34. "And God hath put a girdle about his loins (the rings of Saturn), and the name of the girdle is Death."

In anthropogony this "girdle" is the human body with its two lower principles, which three die, while the innermost man is immortal.

--Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, Founder of the Theosophical Society, the "mother of the New Age movement," and 32° Freemason of the Ancient and Accepted Primitive Rite Grand Orient of France, The Secret Doctrine (1888), Vol. II, pp. 233-235 (starting on a page entitled "HOLY SATAN"):


Lucifer is divine and terrestrial light, the "Holy Ghost" and "Satan," at one and the same time, visible Space being truly filled with the differentiated Breath invisibly; and the Astral Light, the manifested effects of the two who are one, guided and attracted by ourselves, is the Karma of humanity, both a personal and impersonal entity: personal, because it is the

The below is continued from

The below is continued from the above post by me. I did not realize that this forum would cut-off posts such as it did.


... mystic name given by St. Martin to the Host of divine Creators, guides and rulers of this planet; impersonal, as the Cause and effect of universal Life and Death.

--Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, Founder of the Theosophical Society, the "mother of the New Age movement," and 32° Freemason of the Ancient and Accepted Primitive Rite Grand Orient of France, The Secret Doctrine (1888), Vol. II, pg. 513:


First Conjuration Addressed to Emperor Lucifer. Emperor Lucifer, Master and Prince of Rebellious Spirits, I adjure thee to leave thine abode, in what-ever quarter of the world it may be situated and come hither to communicate with me.

--Arthur Edward Waite, 33° Freemason, The Book of Black Magic, pg. 244


What is more absurd and more impious than to attribute the name of Lucifer to the devil, that is, to personified evil. The intellectual Lucifer is the spirit of intelligence and love; it is the paraclete, it is the Holy Spirit, while the physical Lucifer is the great agent of universal magnetism.

--Eliphas Levi, Freemason of the Grand Orient of France, The Mysteries of Magic, pg. 428


For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim.

--Aleister Crowley, "The Beast 666," 33° Freemason, Magick in Theory and Practice (Castle Books, 1929), pg. 95


Those magicians who object to the use of blood have endeavoured to replace it with incense ... But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is best.

--Aleister Crowley, "The Beast 666," 33° Freemason, Magick in Theory and Practice (Castle Books, 1929)


I bind my blood in Satan's hands,
All this that lieth betwixt my hands.
To thee, the Beast, and thy control,
I pledge me; body, mind, and soul.

--Aleister Crowley, "The Beast 666," 33° Freemason, Satanic Extracts (Black Lodge Publishing, 1991), pg. 3


I swear to work my Work abhorred,
Careless of all but one reward,
The pleasure of the Devil our Lord.

--Aleister Crowley "The Beast 666," 33° Freemason, Satanic Extracts (Black Lodge Publishing, 1991), pg. 4


For more on the above and how it ties in to our true condition and status on this Earth, see my below post:

The Hypostasis of the Archons
on: November 13, 2003, 03:53:44 AM:;action=display;threadid=76...

See also my below article (originally published at, which very much concerns this topic:

"Jesus Is an Anarchist," James Redford, revised and expanded edition, November 9, 2005:

I posted earlier also. I

I posted earlier also. I have a tape called Evil Communications featuring Bill Schnoebelen, an ex-Mason. He says that these guys (32 or 33 degree or higher) bring demons home with them, which brings all kinds of discord to their families, including infertility, disease and homosexuality. So happens, my Mom died of pancreatic cancer, my Sister can't have kids, and I'm Gay.

Thanks Dad.

Thanks Dad.

Oh I've spent years

Oh I've spent years researching all the aforementioned stuff. I know all about the origins of the Federal Reserve, the Bush Sr-Bay of Pigs JKF connection, etc. I'm just saying there is a tendency to link everything and make a conspiracy behind everything.
(but pocky, you just linked it yourself, and thats the scary thing, most of it DOES seem to be linked, as disturbing as it is.again, that doesnt mean we should ignore it just because its disturbing.)

Chris, you are speaking

Chris, you are speaking utter tripe and nonsense.

A conspiracy is when two or more people agree with each other to agress against another.

Almost all of politics involves conspiracy, since almost all political actions involve more than one person aggressing against another.

Conspiracy throughout history--including recent history--is ubiquitous. It is sad, but then it is also true.

how is that "utter and tripe

how is that "utter and tripe nonsense" when i said its all basically connected? but alas, you know everything huh buddy? peak oil is a zionist scam right? HA.

ive noticed you like to hear

ive noticed you like to hear yourself speak/type though, so i understand your "utter nonsense".

i dont know if you noticed,

i dont know if you noticed, but the first part of my comments were pasted, they were someone elses, only the comments in the () are mine.i was responding.maybe thats why you misunderstood.

Not meaning to be sarcastic

Not meaning to be sarcastic at all. True story.

I enjoyed your discussion

I enjoyed your discussion about conspiracy throughout history.

I for myself search a little time for the origin of the FED and other items.

My advice: Don't fall for accusing people or groups, in this case your on a good way to insanity.
Don't waste your life-time in this mining-field of psy-ops.

Just keep in mind that there ARE conspiracies all around us, because our culture of reign benefits this kind of behavior.

My personal conclusion is: The greatest conspiracy of all time is the idea and priciple of reign itself.