SF Chronicle- Headline - AN INSIDE JOB?
Carol Brouillet was kind enough to scan in this San Francisco Chronicle article and send it in. Although the article is a number of days old, its still exciting to see it in print media. This article no doubt reached a whole new audience that otherwise knew nothing about the topic.
The image looks kind of grainy in a web browser, but if you open it in an image viewing program, it looks a little clearer. The photo credit got cropped, but it was taken by Andrea Booher / FEMA 2001.
Carol also had the privilege of introducing Dr Griffin, here is an excerpt of her intro:
It is an honor and pleasure to introduce our main speaker, author of The New Pearl Harbor- Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration and 9-11 and The 9-11 Commission Report- Omissions and Distortions- A Critique of the Kean-Zelikow Report.
When people face a problem, they usually ask “What can I do?†However, when confronted with 9-11 truths, that shatter their worldviews, people must ask themselves, “Who am I?â€
Dr. David Ray Griffin has spent much of his life examining questions about “who we are,†and our relationship with the Universe.
A Professor of Philosophy of Religion and Theology, Emeritus at Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Graduate University, Co-Director of the Center for Process Studies, He has authored fifteen books, edited a dozen more and authored over a hundred articles and chapters, presented innumerable papers and lectures. He is renowned for his theological work, and a recipient of the Book Prize of the Scientific and Medical Network. His forthcoming books include- 9/11 and the American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out, and Christian Faith and the Truth Behind 9/11: A Call to Reflection and Action.
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By deconstructing the foundational lies of the “War on Terrorism,†courageously dispelling fear to champion truth, and light the path towards a hopeful future, Dr. Griffin is an inspiration to all who reject fear, terror, war, and lies, and to all who cherish life, health, peace, and truth.The fact that he can enjoy challenging the most threatening empire the world has ever seen, makes it possible, and compelling, for all of us to join him in this journey. Please welcome Dr. David Ray Griffin.
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What is the circulation of
What is the circulation of SF Chronicle?
Half
Half million?
http://www.sfchron.com/about/index.php
Wow, thats pretty good for
Wow, thats pretty good for one newspaper...
Anyone have a clue how two
Anyone have a clue how two favorable-to-911-truth articles manage to get published in a Hearst owned newspaper?
Perhaps the Hearst Corporation lets the SF Chronicle editors print with greater freedom than other papers?
Note that Helen Thomas is
Note that Helen Thomas is with Hearst Newspapers, maybe they aren't such a big boogeyman
this shit is coming out so
this shit is coming out so fast its crazy!!! im loving it!!!
i love that i can print out a piece from the sf news paper and hand it out to everyone...
Hearst papers... a LOOOOONG
Hearst papers... a LOOOOONG time ago were the Fox News of their day... I don't know about anymore. They had a lot to do with the illegalization of Marijuana. Hearst, Dupont, and Anslinger made a dangerous team.
Didnt Hearst also have
Didnt Hearst also have something to do with the Popular Mechanics propaganda hit piece?
Hearst owns Popular
Hearst owns Popular Mechanics, but they own a lot of magazines and newpapers, its a big company
That was a great
That was a great introduction that Carol Brouillet gave to David Ray Griffin. So, he is working on a couple more books. One, Christian Faith and the Truth Behind 9/11 - A Call to Reflection and Action. I know a couple people I will be giving that book to, since nothing else has worked! Hoping that Jimmy Walter and Willie Rodriguez visit to Venezuela, calling for an international 9/11 investigation, develops. According to http://www.reopen911.org Christopher Bollyn, AFP, went along also. I already sent an email to Walter's site. Would a new petition to Chavez be persuasive? And congrats to Jon Gold on the meeting with Curt Weldon!
(dz, SBG I hope you looked
(dz, SBG I hope you looked at my post in thread below about a potential virus in the DRG down load.)
Has anyone looked into making a one page flyer of the Morford SF Gate aticle?
I think it would be perfect if it can be physically done(i.e legible...its a long article) and the copyright issues,
"Didnt Hearst also have
"Didnt Hearst also have something to do with the Popular Mechanics propaganda hit piece?"
Yes, and the piece was written by Benjamin Chertoff, a "senior researcher" at Popular Mechanics (he's 25). Benji is the cousin of Michael Chertoff, of Homeland Security!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2005/070305chertoffscousin.htm
The Moussaoui verdict is
The Moussaoui verdict is in... won't know until 4pm EST what it is.
I'm sure he will be found
I'm sure he will be found guilty because the jurors were tortured and told by the CIA that if they don't cooperate with them by announcing the guilty verdict, they will be killed...haha...oh boy.
I liked how the article bolded the phrase 'Griffin scoffed at 9-11 conspiracy theories, then looked closer' because that is what everyone needs to do...to look closer...
Hey Radical Pragmatist , I
Hey Radical Pragmatist , I didn't see that, I'll check it out...
Imagine the tales Mr.
Imagine the tales Mr. Moussaoui could tell.
Well it's probable that
Well it's probable that either Hearst is not as bad as we thought or else DRG (as well as known, divisive, smearing, limited-hangout activist agent Carol Brouillet) is not as good as some of us thought.
DRG plays his cards pretty close to the vest, but on a recent coast2coast AM radio appearance he, and Jim Fetzer, were both only too happy to 'concede' the point that we can believe the govt about what (hijacked commercial civilian passenger airliners, aka "airplanes") hit the WTC towers, even though we have no proof of that all-too-easily conceded point. (Morgan Reynolds joined the show later and politely -- perhaps too much so -- dissented on that point.)
If we want to pulverize The Big Lie of 9/11, we can't go soft on it like that. If we want to deny The Big Lie its #1 priority -- the job of enemy creation -- and resulting belief in fictitious "suicidal Muslim hijackers", it is counter-productive to do what DRG did. (Gatekeeper Jim Hoffman is a[nother] wimpy self-contradicting illogical dishonest self-proclaimed 911 truther who will tell anyone who will listen that we can't blame the "collapses" on "airplanes" yet insists, without [and even contrary to!] conclusive evidence, that we must take the government's word that it was hijacked civilian passenger airliners that hit the twin towers...)
From what little I read in the enlarged image, 911 truth is still being mis-framed and mis-categorized in that article as "conspiracy theories", which is toxic to the cause of 911 truth. We can be scoffed at, but the government's impossible conspiracy theory cannot? By whose rules are we 'playing' this 'game', anyway?
The public must be constantly reminded that the government's official version of events is THE IMPOSSIBLE CONSPIRACY THEORY, and honest 911 truthers are merely tasked with providing possible alternate explanations.
The public must be constantly reminded that the government's official version of events is THE IMPOSSIBLE CONSPIRACY THEORY, and honest 911 truthers are merely tasked with providing possible alternate explanations.
The public MUST be constantly reminded that the government's official version of events is THE IMPOSSIBLE CONSPIRACY THEORY, and honest 911 truthers are merely tasked with providing possible alternate explanations.
As long as 911 truthers seem happy to go on being labeled as "conspiracy theorists", I guarantee you that, as part of the limited hangout we are fighting (many of us still without realizing it), Hearst will be happy to keep (mis)labeling us as "conspiracy theorists", to our detriment (that term is at least as disparaged/devalued as "liberal")!
http://www.answers.com/topic/rockefeller-family http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockefeller_family contains the name Hearst and Prentice (didn't Prentice-Hall publish some of Michael Moore's false-opposition printed works?).
Call me a stick-in-the-mid, but I won't be cheering limited-hangout baby steps forward (with built-in serious steps backward) as if they are major advances.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm a conspiracy theorist debunker. People who [still] believe in the government's impossible fictitious conspiracy theory of 9/11 are the ones who could stand to be labeled, as could 911 truthers who still don't have a coherent view of the big picture of 9/11 (how can they effectively fight The Big Lie of 9/11 if they still don't recognize it fully for what it is?).
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RP wrote: Gravatar (dz, SBG
RP wrote: Gravatar (dz, SBG I hope you looked at my post in thread below about a potential virus in the DRG down load.)
It seemed as if my browser made a delayed/belated request for content long after the page had apparently finished loading, and my browser gave me an err msg about a plug-in's unhappiness. (But by then I was looking at other Hearst sites, too, researching what I wrote...)
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I've been working away for
I've been working away for the cause at:
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/04/monday-morning-open-thread.html
Pop in if you've got time or want to get in on the commentary.
Another patsy bites the
Another patsy bites the dust.
http://tinyurl.com/l4yd5
(as well as known, divisive,
(as well as known, divisive, smearing, limited-hangout activist agent Carol Brouillet)
^LOL that's total bullshit, Carol Brouillet's a brilliant activist! Blimp, you might as well call everyone an "agent" in that case.
What's Showbiz Tonight up
What's Showbiz Tonight up to, do we think?
Verdict: Moussaoui is
Verdict: Moussaoui is eligible for execution.
This will need to be
This will need to be publicized as widely as possible:
Top Scientist Advocates Mass Culling 90% Of Human Population
Fellow professors and scientists applause and roar approval at elite's twisted and genocidal population control agenda
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/030406massculling.htm
"(as well as known,
"(as well as known, divisive, smearing, limited-hangout activist agent Carol Brouillet)"
dz, ban blimp. You've got my vote.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Progra
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/showbiz.tonight/
Monday's show
Why movies about the September 11, 2001 terror attacks are making so many people in and out of Hollywood really nervous. "Showbiz Tonight" airs live on Headline News at 7 p.m. and replays at 11 p.m. (All times Eastern.)
Is Showbiz tonight back on
Is Showbiz tonight back on 9/11 truth? Anyone know who's going to appear?
I can´t help feeling that
I can´t help feeling that 911truth (911truth.org) is a deceptive site. Theres so much important information that just isnt there.
911blogger is doing a great job, though. Are you working with 911truth?
And, reopen911, Jimmy Walter and co; is he still talking hologram-crap?
People, the REAL truthers out there. Keep the important questions alive:
- Building 7
- WTC
- probably pentagon
These issues can be tested! Physics, gotta love it! MHM!
Oh, SNAP!
This Showbiz tonight thing
This Showbiz tonight thing is interesting...
How would September 11th movies make so many people "in and out of hollywood" nervous???
Just a strange thing to say...
Blimpie--(Gatekeeper Jim
Blimpie--(Gatekeeper Jim Hoffman is a[nother] wimpy self-contradicting illogical dishonest self-proclaimed 911 truther who will tell anyone who will listen that we can't blame the "collapses" on "airplanes" yet insists, without [and even contrary to!] conclusive evidence, that we must take the government's word that it was hijacked civilian passenger airliners that hit the twin towers...)
You seem to have couched some "no planes at the WTC" bullshit into your above rant. The more badmouth Hoffman & Brouillet, the more highly I think of them, and the less I think of you.
Radical Pragmatist, A quick
Radical Pragmatist,
A quick search says that it is not feasible for an MP3 to contain a virus. That is because the MP3 does not launch, and has no scripting language associated with it.
It is probably just odd timing, I had my last harddrive fail about 5 years ago when i left quake 1 idle for 30 minutes..
sorry to hear about your bad luck.
(This appears to be a Rense
(This appears to be a Rense exclusive...)
Disinfo Pro - Death Of A Once-Great Blogger
By Douglas Herman
4-3-6
"How are the mighty fallen in the midst of the battle!" -Book of Samuel
He was once among the mighty. Now he has fallen. A blogger and editor of Capitol Hill Blue, his name is Doug Thompson. You might know him if you have ever read "The Rant." Powerful stuff once but apparently no longer.
The other day Doug Thompson wrote a column entitled:
9/11 conspiracy theories don't pass the smell test. That rant received over 400 responses, the great majority of them in disagreement, before being shut down. The following day Thompson posted a column by former White House flak, Betsy Hart: "So Many Conspiracy Theories, So Little Reality." Like Thompson's rant, that column carried little fact-based information and no quotations by any knowledgeable person defending her assertions.
The following day, by way of explanation, Thompson wrote: "I talked with firefighters and other first responders on the scene. It wasn't just debris falling. We're talking about steel girders and concrete chunks the size of some houses."
more@link
http://www.rense.com/general70/disin.htm
Hey RP, I did remove the MP3
Hey RP, I did remove the MP3 a while ago just to be safe...
dz, i vote to bann blimp
dz, i vote to bann blimp also.... he is a shill... if not then hes a moron and should go...
Wesley Don't forget the
Wesley
Don't forget the Osama fiasco. He was named the culprit in the same day of 9-11 with no evidence provided. He denied any involvement. The fake Osama video.
Those usually are the most convincing arguments along with WTC7 degeneration and the NORAD stand down.
"I can´t help feeling
"I can´t help feeling that 911truth (911truth.org) is a deceptive site. Theres so much important information that just isnt there.
911Truth.org doesn't have the people willing to monitor 9/11 news like dz does. Also, they're not meant to be a news service... they're more for events, actions, etc...
911blogger is doing a great job, though. Are you working with 911truth?
They're not affiliated with each other, but they support each other.
blimp, you are welcome to
blimp,
you are welcome to your opinions, but please recognize that others here may disagree with you, and the following attack phrases are not within reason here:
Gatekeeper Jim Hoffman is a[nother] wimpy self-contradicting illogical dishonest self-proclaimed 911 truther
as well as known, divisive, smearing, limited-hangout activist agent Carol Brouillet
if you have an issue with them, take it up with them yourself, or rant on your own website, do not feel the need to bash them here.
They're not affiliated with
They're not affiliated with each other, but they support each other.
Jon Gold
to clarify, i post their shit when it comes up, just like every other site/article that gets submitted ;)
Thanks for looking into it
Thanks for looking into it dz. Maybe it was just a coincidance. Its a valuable audio file and I don't want it taken down based on my singular experience, especialy if its almost impossible to include a virus on an mp3.
Just wanted to alart you to the pssibility.
911 Blimp's description of his experience with the file sounds like what happened to me before the whole thing crashed.
See Blimp's input has been helpful in this matter.
( or is he a disinfo agent preparing the way for this deadly Mp3 virus. Maybe I'm a disinfo agent and I don't even know it....hell...I'm not even getting paid! These guys are good.)
( I am obviously joking above) , but the whole disinfo issue is a very legitimate concern but it can lead to circles of unproductive accusations and paranoia unless supported by rational evidence and reasoning to support the accusations)
Use a very light and cautious hand when wielding the power of the Ban button.
But your response to 911blimp seemed appropriate.
Roger ("dz"), I'll try to
Roger ("dz"),
I'll try to choose my words more carefully in the future. But at least I support my allegations with evidence:
Jim Hoffman supports his government-friendly allegations by suppressing contrary, govt-lie-breaking, evidence: http://911u.org/CoDR/graphics/HoffmanOmittedFlashFrame+.gif
There are many wolves in sheep dog's clothing within the so-called (and constipated) 9/11 truth movement. 911blogger has been very (overly, IMHO) friendly to and accomodating and supportive of some of them: 911truth.org suppresses the same govt-lie-breaking "flash frame" evidence as does Hoffman, and seeks to label/libel/marginalize anyone who does not go along with their evidence-suppression campaign...
Carol Brouillet might be "a brilliant activist", but she's pulling in the wrong direction, and has publicly falsely smeared 911blimp.net in the past. Why would I keep her dirty secret for her, and from the participants in this forum? (People who cannot consider the possibility that so many of their friendly lovable 9/11 'truth' 'leaders' are rotten remind me of people who still insist upon believing BushCo [including Dems] about 9/11.)
Plenty of "attack phrases" and name-calling have been used against me here. I can take it (but I can't dish it out? Why do you apparently refer to me as "blimp"? Are you a hypocrite? If not, please explain your name-calling behavior... And also your apparent 6:48 post in which "dz" violated the posted rule: "Do not post comments that are abusive, offensive, contain profane or racist material, or resort to attacking other users".)
If fake 911 truthers can be praised here but not dissed here, there's something wrong with "here".
If 911blogger.com wishes to be seen as a booster of selective/censoring 911 truthers who disagree rather narrowly with the government's official account of events, and a participant in the LPA (Limited-hangout-disinfo-agent Protective Association), you know what to do...
(Hey Wesley: as an extension of 911blimp.net's http://911blimp.net/$500reward.shtml aimed primarily at disinformationists within the 9/11 truth movement who unfairly get people to not consider certain incriminating possibilities, if you ["hologram-crap"] can prove that no holograms were used to deceive We The People on 9/11, I'll pay you $500! If not, then it would be more fair-minded of you to not frivolously and preemptively dismiss, much less ridicule, much less bad-mouth, any possibility...)
Good, honest investigators have the right to follow their hunches, but they do not have the right to preemptively dismiss (or suppress!!!) evidence (much less attack those who do not engage in such nefarious practices).
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911blimp, sorry for calling
911blimp,
sorry for calling you 'blimp' and not '911blimp', i can see how that might be a derogatory name by itself ;)
i actually appreciated your image on hoffman's photos of the first impact, just like i liked the analysis of the osama 'confession tape' on 911myths (not to suggest you are both of the same agenda or opinion).. i like seeing things from multiple angles or persuasions..
as for the attack phrases, etc. i have no issue with you stating things like 'i do not agree with..' or 'in my opinion..', the things i take issue with are bold faced statements which are to some degree a matter of opinion.. just like the guy who was here a few days ago spouting 'there is absolutely no evidence of explosions', that was just his opinion, not a matter of fact..
i think the times where you are attacked in general are due to what appears to be your insistance on attacking others. as soon as one side or the other starts weilding terms of 'disinfo', 'limited hangout', 'liar', etc. etc. it will cause the oposite opinion to respond in the same fasion. i have no issue with disagreeing or agreeing with others, its only when it turns into 'this is 100% fact and only liar cointel pro supports it' that i take issue.. and that goes for all sides.. labels are labels, and carry little weight with me, kinda like how the labels of 'liberal' and 'conspiracy theorist' are thrown around..
anyways, yes i said 'shit', im not a profanity nun, its only in the phrases of 'eat s***' and 'go f*** yourself', etc. etc. that i really take issue with.. or the incesant need to use profanity.. ill let one go here and there, but its somewhat rare for me.
I'm so proud to be a citizen
I'm so proud to be a citizen in San Francisco. I forwarded the Loose Change Google links and other relevant source info on Griffin and Scholars for truth to the Chronicle (Morford, Editor and Cinnamon) about a month ago. I'm certain others have too, but it's nice to know they're paying attention and aren't too controlled by Hearst as I believed they might be.
This makes a wonderful
This makes a wonderful handout. Put the scan of the newspaper as the first page and then print the article from the sfgate.com site.
Its short and easy to read and is enough to crack brains open just a little bit.