Bush Refers To "War On Terror" As "World War III"

Welp, that clinches it for me. Flight 93 did not go down as we were told. The fact that he's using the "heroism" of the passengers on 93 to promote "World War III", after the release of "United 93", a propaganda movie, just clinches it for me.

Ive been waiting for Alex to do something like this for a long time. You know he has the bucks to get things rolling. Im not saying he hasnt done enough just Im happy to see this.

im not allowed to post at rawstory anymore

gatekeeper enemies of free speech

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020129-11.html

really? RawStory banned you? ive been posting 9/11 truth stuff there a lot lately. that sucks if its true. C&L just got done banning me for the 3rd time in about as many months though.at least RawStory.com doesnt explicitly say "all 9/11 related comments will be deleted" like CrooksandLiars.com says.its really that bad now.

im still waiting on that "big time music star" to come forward like Alex Jones said about a month or 2 ago.
Chris | Homepage | 05.06.06 - 11:02
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He wasnt talking about neil young?

fyi, i think Hayden will be the next head of the CIA. hes a good little soldier, and he had a lot to do with the illegal NSA spying.hes just the kind of asshole and yes-man they would like.

Feel free to use this if you want...

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/opportunity911.jpg

thats cool Jon, but i like his comments to the UN where he says something like- "let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories, that seek to deflect from the guilty party" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, isnt it ironic?

http://www.un.org/webcast/ga/56/statements/011110usaE.htm

"We must speak the truth about terror. Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September 11th - malicious lies that attempt to shift blame away from the terrorists themselves, away from the guilty. To inflame ethnic hatred is to advance the cause of terror. And no government should promote the propaganda of terrorists."

I never thought of myself as a "Terrorist".

http://www.team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?2857

On Lee Purbaugh. JohnDoeII is my personal hero. ;-)

thanks to all those behind the scenes who help to put my post on Huffpo to the top - the Flight 93 Revolt news item.

thank you all. :) cheers.

"oh yeah, Norman Minetta, Trans. Secy TESTIFIED to the 9/11 Commission that VP Cheney told them to STAND DOWN, but that little statement was pared from the 9/11 Commission Report."

Not accurate.

I thought Beck might be the next musician because he has a song "Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometimes" & John J. Albenese New 9/11 video is named "Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime". Also, Albenese hid out in Germany for a while after the Feds searched his apartment & interrogated his roommate, & Beck has family in Germany. Lastly it was rumored that said musician went by "1 name" & Beck goes by 1 name.

"oh yeah, Norman Minetta, Trans. Secy TESTIFIED to the 9/11 Commission that VP Cheney told them to STAND DOWN, but that little statement was pared from the 9/11 Commission Report."

Not accurate.
Anonymous | 05.06.06 - 11:53 am | #

in what way is it not accuracte??? I didn't use quotes. The order still stands - which is on face value apparently the order to allow it to attack, or - to not engage it with the pentagon's ground-to-air missile defenses... either way - its a stand-down.

Sorry, that was me. You make it sound as if Mineta told them that he heard VP Cheney order a stand down. Norman Mineta said that he didn't find out until LATER that it was a "shoot-down" order.

OUR take on it, based on the information available to us, is that that order had to have been what you described.

looks like the website isnt up yet.

How clever accuse the attacks as the start of WWIII so he doesnt take credit for actually starting it when and if he bombs Iran. What a dick.

U.S. Envoy: Bin Laden likely in Pakistan.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060506/ap_on_re_as/afghan_terrorism;_ylt=Ah...
- I wish he would clarify, fat or skinny.

Moussaoui Trial Not Likely to be the Norm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060506/ap_on_re_us/moussaoui_terror_trials_1
I am shocked they won't try to prosecute anyone else. I would give anything to have a KSM trial.

Short 9/11 video showing the President of U.S.A. (a.k.a. goat-boy) (deliberately) sitting-out the worst attack in U.S. history: http://www.peacetakescourage.com/911.html

Bush The Muderer: http://ptc.cf.huffingtonpost.com/animations/deadwrong.html

You just wonder when it's going to this level, how long Alex Jones has on this earth before he is murdered. If they can get away with it with Princess Di, JFK, surely they are not intimidated to get rid of Alex Jones. Prior to all this, Alex Jones wasn't a threat to them really because they thought they could just laugh him off as a nutcase. When he goes to this level, he is truly risking his life.

I wish i could come but i live in wisconsin.

The MINUTE a prominent member of the 9/11 Truth Movement dies, it will cause an uprising the likes of which has never been seen before in this country. Provided it's not by earthquake, hurricane, volcano, old age, natural causes, or that person gets on TV, and blows their brains out, it will cause an uprising the likes of which has never been seen before in this country.

And I am NOT advocating someone blowing their brains out on Television.

Video: The Revolution Will Not Be Televised (2002 anti-Chavez coup)
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Patridge just posted this... wow...

Jon, I thought that already happened.

Blimp, there is something very wrong with you.

Spies Among Us - Police Being Used To Spy On American Citizens

"U.S. News has identified nearly a dozen cases in which city and county police, in the name of homeland security, have surveilled or harassed animal-rights and antiwar protesters, union activists, and even library patrons surfing the Web."

"A U.S.News inquiry found that federal officials have funneled hundreds of millions of dollars into once discredited state and local police intelligence operations. Millions more have gone into building up regional law enforcement databases to unprecedented levels."

"The restrictions on police spying are being removed"

"And I don't think you can rely on the police to regulate themselves."

"Since 9/11, the U.S. Departments of Justice and Homeland Security have poured over a half-billion dollars into building up local and state police intelligence operations. The funding has helped create more than 100 police intelligence units reaching into nearly every state."

"In response, state authorities have come up with thousands of loosely defined targets, ranging from genuine terrorists to biker gangs and environmentalists."

"The resurgence of police intelligence operations is being accompanied by a revolution in law enforcement computing. Rap sheets, intelligence reports, and public records are rapidly being pooled into huge, networked computer databases. Much of this is a boon to crime fighting, but privacy advocates say the systems are wide open to abuse."

You get the idea.

Matthews, Day, Tarpley

http://www.911truth.org/media/matthewsdaytarpley_chicago.mp3

Earnest Partrdge ignores the free fall speed of the buildings.He admits that jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt the steel but that it was weakened by fifty percent.That sounds good but there was molten steel in all three buildings so what melted the steel?Something melted it ,what? As for the forensic evidence,read about,(sorry,don't know how to link)the House of Representatives Committee on Science;Learning from 911,it explains how most of the steel was melted down or shipped out the US before the National Foundation for Science could begin their investigation.They were only allowed access to some of the steel after an un explained delay.They were aslo denied full access to building designs,maintenance and construction documents.The 911 commission report lies and says the core of each of the buildings were a hollow steel shaft when in fact there were 47 massive steel collumns which probably would have remained ar least partially standing.Why not tell the truth about the construction of the buildings if jet planes were able to bring them down.The charges were set before hand (of course) and from the comand center were detonated from the point of impact from the designated area.I mean, think how well they they guided what ever that was into the area of the pentagon that was the least occuppied.I disagree with him about the "clear un-equivocal and overwhelming" evidence at the pentagon.We're still wating for those pictures of the Boeing. He doesn't touch on any of the other problems,the fake bin Laden video.The hijackers that are not on the flight manefests,No surveilance videos of them boarding.They were bad at flying small cessnas ,then suddenly they're flying jumbo jets and finding targets and performing amazing aerial feats. The anthrax attacks aimed at democrats,and when it's discoverd the anthrax is U.S. military,the whole thing gets dropped.There are more things that need to be explained besides the towers and the pentagon.

Pockybot said
"But there isnt any...theres firefighters, a lot of em saying bombs are going off in the towers...but theres not one NY firefighter or NYPD cop speaking for 9/11 Truth today."

There are some NYPD Cops speaking out for the truth. Read this and you'll understand why. http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=3595 all the best to him in his fight.

How many people are aware of this story:

Plane Lands In Cleveland; Bomb Feared Aboard

Reported by: 9News Staff
Web produced by: Liz Foreman
9/11/01 11:43:57 AM

A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor Michael R. White.

White said the plane had been moved to a secure area of the airport, and was evacuated.

United identified the plane as Flight 93. The airline did say how many people were aboard the flight.

etc
http://web.archive.org/web/20021109040132/http:/wcpo.com/specials/2001/a...

Video: The Revolution Will Not Be Televised (2002 anti-Chavez coup)
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Thats a good flick. It appears the people in south America are leading the way for us. First Venezuela now Bolivia have nationalized there petro resources.
If you think about it this Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan fiasco and everything that led up to it {911}is being done mostly be benefit private big oil companies.

It was an amazing flick, and I hope everyone watches it.

Just like all the other boldfaced lies surrounding 9/11, the EPA & Christie Whitman just bullshitted that the environment in/around the WTC was safe. They were talking to us out of their butts.

Any logical person would have correctly presumed that it was a toxic cesspool there! 3 enormous office buildings erupted & exploded, others damaged & burnt, asbestos, heavy metals smoking everywhere, etc. (A small example, there were probably 100,000 computer monitors destroyed, those old 30+ lbs., not flat-screens.)

And now theyÂ’re even covering-up the deadly illnesses that so many are suffering from!!!

THE ENTIRE THING IS F*CKING OUTRAGEOUS!!!

Brian...

That article is bs. I did some researching on it myself. Flight 93 did not take off from boston, it took off from newark, new jersey. I also read somewhere that it was an american airline, not united.

Very comprehensive post, layla.

Did anyone here go to the premiere of the new video "Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime"?

I'm still very suspecious about that detailed news report re: UA-93 landing in Cleveland & passengers taken away. (The story was retracted about 2 years later!)
And yes, geggy, UA-93 was out of Newark. The other ill-fated plane in that news report UA-175, was out of Boston.
http://emperors-clothes.com/images/timemap.gif

Jon, "Spies Among Us - Police Being Used To Spy On American Citizens"

I guess we learned nothing from Brownshirted Nazis or Blackshirted fascits. It wasn't very long ago people.

As you may agree, Alex Jones is one of the best at revealing our secret police state.

Yeah, and they ID'ed the passengers on AA77 with 99% accuracy using DNA and fingerprints, after they hit the Pentagaon @ 530 mph. Sure they did.

Looks like an A-3 Sky Warrior: http://www.911studies.com/911%20images/72-911holdposen.jpg

Thanks

Hey I remember somebody linked to a newscast a week and a half ago saying that Morgan Reynolds would be releasing evidence today that 911 was an inside job.

Anyone remember that? Haven't seen anything in the MSM *hehehe*

Bigfoot, the Lochness monster and Elvis will be will also be joining Jones. Members of the Illuminatti, the N.W.O. and lizards from Plant X are scheduled to attend.

Dr. Spock will be there to show conspiradroids how to do the Vulcan Mind-meld.......

Cleveland Hopkins International Airport on 9/11:
http://911readingroom.org/bib/whole_document.php?article_id=168
http://911readingroom.org/bib/whole_document.php?article_id=169

This guy on the GNN blog about Chomsky's 9/11 position(at the very bottom)
says EXACTLY what I feel happened, even tho it's not a popular position in MIHOP 9/11 Truth:

"My position and opinions about the 9/11 confusion are this:

1. I and U.S. intelligence knew specifically that there would be commercial airline attacks on September 11, 2001 at the WTC and Pentagon by jihadists. We knew years in advance.

2. Secret U.S. government policy was to facilitate the attacks. U.S. intelligence influenced the FBI and others to prevent intervention.

3. The attacks were desired in order to rally the nation around huge increases in defense and intelligence spending, government reorganization for homeland security plus imperialist war for oil.

4. I think U.S. intelligence may have planted some explosives, apparently mishandled some evidence and influenced the investigations to easily be seen as incompetant for the purpose of creating the confusion we have been facing, to create an atmosphere for the wildest of stories as a PSYOP to protect the simpler truth about government prior knowledge and facilitation of events."

This is exactly what I think happened.
There was Arabs on board. al Qaeda was involved. Black World Ops just made sure it could go through.

One more on Cleveland Hopkins & Flight 93: http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2002-08-12-hijacker-daytwo_x.htm

http://www.rense.com/general71/asd.htm

"I had heard the story about Flight 93 landing in Cleveland, yet I had no way to know whether or not it was true. Recently I watched a program on The History Channel about how difficult it was to ground all the airliners in the air over and entering US airspace on 9/11. This program showed a DELTA airlines 767 that landed at Cleveland on that day. It was surrounded by SWAT teams, searched, and the passengers offloaded. The DELTA jet was then cleared. The video (I don't believe is doctored) clearly shows a DELTA jet.

I am not a debunker. I am sincerely curious and willing to accept the truth. Is it possible that the 767 referred to in your report is the Delta Airlines jet and not United Fl. 93?"

This article argues that BOTH flights landed in cleveland. Make of it what you will:

http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=323

Thanks for posting The Revolution Will Not Be Televised. It was really good.

You know, watching the Revolution Wont Be Televised...isnt it funny how the Bush regime talks about the evils of undemocratically elected leaders, yet they more than applauded the coup of the popularly elected Chavez, and recognized the fake 24 hour regime? No wonder Chavez thinks the CIA was in on it.

And you know, call David Icke crazy...but watching part 2 of the Secrets of the Matrix Brixton thing...he makes so much sense. About globalization, companies like Monsantos and microchips, conditioning, and doublespeak...as well as the true meaning of 9/11, etc.
I used to think he was just some nutty guy talking about Reptillians, but a bulk of what he has to say elaboirates on what most activists talk about, but goes a bit deeper.

pockybot,
There could be Arabs on board but that doesn't make them hijackers and they could be employees of some "conspiracy" but that doesn't mean they were running it. They may have been instructed to be on those planes, i.e., unwitting dupes.

The fundamental problem with the official version is the nature of those building collapses at the WTC. Anyone could "plant some explosives" but the building is not going to come down like those did. There is no way on God's green earth that Osama bin Laden got people into the buildings to do the job of planting THOSE explosives to bring down the buildings like that. And thats why it has to be "MIHOP."

Also about MIHOP and the Norman Mineta testimony. Clearly Dick Cheney gave an order not to shoot down whatever was coming towards the Pentagon.

Supposedly 9/11 came as a total surprise so he had no way of knowing where the "plane" would struck the Pentagon. Why would he risk the lifes of Rumsfeld and other high ranking people? unless he had foreknowledge where the "plane" would hit the building and that his buddies where not in any danger at all.

OT:

check out this building design in San Diego on what appears to be a military base:

http://www.unitedslavesofamerica.org/base.jpg

"Also about MIHOP and the Norman Mineta testimony. Clearly Dick Cheney gave an order not to shoot down whatever was coming towards the Pentagon.

Supposedly 9/11 came as a total surprise so he had no way of knowing where the "plane" would struck the Pentagon. Why would he risk the lifes of Rumsfeld and other high ranking people? unless he had foreknowledge where the "plane" would hit the building and that his buddies where not in any danger at all."

Excellent point! Condi Rice & other key NeoCons were also in the other parts of the Pentagon. Cheney knew exactly what he was doing.

"Excellent point! Condi Rice & other key NeoCons were also in the other parts of the Pentagon. Cheney knew exactly what he was doing"

Thus it explains why Norman Mineta's testimony was left out of the 9/11 commission final report and they found it necessary to lie about the time Cheney was in the white house control bunker. Norman Mineta's testimony implicates complicity on the part of Cheney.

9/11 commission final report version:

9/11 Commission Report: "At 9:37:46, American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon (...)". (p. 10, eerste paragraaf)
(...)
"American 77 began turning south, away from the White House, at 9:34. It continued heading south for roughly a minute,before turning west and beginning to circle back.This news prompted the Secret Service to order the immediate
evacuation of the Vice President just before 9:36. Agents propelled him out of his chair and told him he had to get to the bunker.The Vice President entered the underground tunnel leading to the shelter at 9:37. Once inside,Vice President Cheney and the agents paused in an area of the tunnel that had a secure phone, a bench, and television. The Vice President asked to speak to the President, but it took time for the call to be connected. He learned in the tunnel that the Pentagon had been hit, and he saw television coverage of smoke coming from the building." (pp. 39-40)

pockybot
And oh yeah, while I am not convinced about the wTC7 theory, Im surprised this footage from a DAMN good angle of the collapse isnt seen more:
http://www.terrorize.dk/911/ wtc7...tion.window.wmv

That is a good angle of the collapse! If you look at the collaspe you can ACTUALLY SEE PLUMES/SQUIBS when the building is going down!

Raw story forum 911 pages
http://forums.bluelemur.com/viewforum.php?f=14
http://forums.bluelemur.com/viewforum.php?f=1