SD wrote: «It seems to me that if they have an english version, the Norge version is translated from that, not the other way around. Maybe they are testing the waters before releasing the english version or other langguages in print.»

I can assure you that the authors of the 3 pages in diplo.no are true-blue Norwegians, apart from the Peace Researcher, who seems to be a semi, with some Swedish genes thrown in.. :D

it is time for Planehuggers to wake up
and see what's going on here. While real aircrafts are still getting ignored as well....they also continue to ignore the multiple growing evidence on 9/11 TV Fakery.

indeed. i thought for a time that they were merely morons and that if only the fakery were to be pointed out they would see it but their refusal to even try to see means that it goes beyond simple moronics. - james ha.

nice to know what you think of us james. im sure the feeling is mostly mutual around here for you.........

The unofficial translation:
http://www.gnn.tv/B16458

Okay, I checked out the French Monde Diplo and it's not the National Enquirer. French version also does not feature 9/11 article (naturellement).

Vesa,
I signed up for an account at DailyKos for the express purpose of recommending any diaries you write there. (I actually planned to be all sneaky about it by reading/posting/recommending all their regular Dem stuff BUT I CAN'T BRING MYSELF TO READ IT.) Anyhoo, be sure to post here if you post there.

Le Monde diplomatique (Oslo), has a global and intellectual focus. The monthly newspaper prints articles from the original French edition in Norwegian, and a lot of other articles initiated from its editorial office in Oslo. Le Monde diplomatique has around 25 different national printed editions and some other internet editions worldwide, which amounts to several million readers. The Nordic edition has, in addition to the translated French articles, a special focus on political thinking and visual art. Usually one visual artist is used to illustrate a part of the newspaper.

Le Monde diplomatique (Oslo) is mostly distributed in Norway, but also has readers in Denmark and Sweden. It is also a monthly supplement to the daily newspaper Klassekampen [Class struggle]. In total, [b]Le Monde diplomatique has around 50 000 readers.[/b] The Nordic edition was started in April 2003, and its publisher/editor is Truls Lie (truls@lmd.no). The website is www.lmd.no.

http://www.eurozine.com/journals/mondediploo/selfdescription.html

Their website has changed to http://www.diplo.no/

HAHA, that was totally an offhand comment. thanks!

Eirik has pretty much the gist of it as far as my understanding of Norwegian goes.

Since anti is waiting for the full version in English, I just made it simple with the -- and short sentences.
The reason is, as I said in the translated comment; I think you all have heard about this before. But still, the article is good and we need more like this!
I think the author of the article knows English AT LEAST as good as I do ;) But of course, I will read it and post a comment if theres something missing. I doubt it, but will check :)

Just found a great quote from Ron. Reagan, actually about spaceflight, but a hard-hitting piece for the Neocons:

"We don't hide our space program. We don't keep secrets and cover things up. We do it all up front and in public. That's the way freedom is, and we wouldn't change it for a minute."
Greg | Homepage | 07.04.06 - 12:39 pm | #
no offense if your a Reagan fan, but he ran a pretty goddamn secretive government.he was a horrible president and a horrible man.fuck Reagan.

Eirik,

Thank you for taking the time to post your English summary. When an English translation is posted, I hope you will take the time to look it over and see whether you think the translation is accurate. That would be really helpful.

More contextualization would be helpful, too -- this isn't, like, the Scandinavian equivalent of the National Enquirer, right?

Good news. LeMonde Diplo is one of the best alter-globalization press network. In the last french edition there is an allusiv article on a imaginary nazi plot against America. I hope they are up to something bigger.
Some of their friend in a more alternativ press network have issued la full number on the PNAC and serial war propagandists, and they even mention loose change.

Happy 'get rid of the corrupted plague' day.
Vive la démocratie ! Vive la liberté !

Thanks so much to our overseas friends who offer us well-wishes on our Independence Day!! Your greetings bring tears of humility and deep appreciation. With your help, Truth and Justice will prevail.

I urge all to refresh your spirits with this dazzling 15-minute Declaration of Independence recital;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYyttEu_NLU&search=Declaration%20of%20Ind...

Thanks for the summary, Eirik! I can't wait to read the entire article.

That "truth inside" logo is great! :-)

Well, its a good article but nothing you havent heard of before. The good thing is that it has actually been published, thats the big difference here.

In short terms, this is the story in the article:

- A growing number of Americans is convinced about the participation of US Government in 9/11.
- Classified testimonys shows there could have been a controlled demolition.
- US Government had been waiting for something like this to happen (you all know the reason).
- Patriot Act.
- The Northwood project in -62, so why couldnt something like that happen today, he says.
- Money transactions to Atta.
- They (USA(CIA) had bin Laden under control while he was at a hospital in Pakistan in sept 2001.
- Suspicious free fall of the WTC 1,2,7 and how it happened according to official explanation.
- Various testimonys about explosions inside WTC before the collaps.
- Why none of the planes where cut off before reaching their targets, and the stand-down orders.
- About warnings; NSA listened to a conversation between Atta and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed in summer of 2001, where Atta gave Mohammed a green light for the operation (my own remarks; maybe Shaikh gave Atta green light and not the other way? Just a thought.)
- FBI agent Colleen Rowley says that FBI deliberately stopped her investigation of Moussaoui when he was at a flightschool in Minneapolis, even they had warnings about him from France. Rowley says that further investigations could have stopped the hijackers.
- Money transfer to Atta from ISI shows that there could have been cooperation between ISI, CIA and Al-Qaida.
- Why has the hunt for bin Laden stopped since he was the main suspect of 9/11?
- Why they didnt take bin Laden when they had him in Tora-Bora mountains in 2001, and he also had a operation for kidneyfailure in a US hospital in Dubai July 2001.
- In Sept 2001 he (bin Laden) was also at a hospital in Pakistan.
- He mention David Ray Griffins book, The New Pearl Harbor, and also various 9/11 truth sites on the internet, like 9/11 Truth and the conference in Chicago in June.
- Who was behind 9/11? It could have been NSA, CIA and FBI, The White House, or as some says; Cheney, Wolfowitz etc etc.
- The 4 possible explanations: Official story, Incompetence (official story is true but FBI, CIA, The White House, NSA and others has to be blamed), LIHOP (US Government and others knew about it and "Let It Happen On Purpose") or MIHOP (Made It Happen On Purpose)
- Steven E. Jones (you all know his work so I wont go further into that part)
- JulySeventhTruth, regarding what really happened in London.
- "9/11Truth" questions why no fighter jets were able to intersept and if The White House is not telling the truth about pre-warnings.
- If FBI, CIA and NSA deliberately avvoided investigations which could have prevented 9/11.
- Les Jamieson talks about Nazi Germany parallell to 9/11, the Northwoods and false evidence to go into Vietnam.
And that there can be "a state inside the state" who planned and executed 9/11. Also the false evidence about weapons in Iraq.
- Scholars for 9/11 Truth and some info about the members. Students, professors, etc.
- David Ray Griffins 115 remarks about the Commission Report.

This is very short and you might find more of interest when the full article is translated.

There is also a short piece about Norwegian media who is silent about 9/11. That they are afraid to print anything and so on. Just like in the US.

I received a piece from David Ray Griffin a while ago which I translated and sent to Norwegian newspapers and asked if they could print it in their discussion and debate section. Still no comments from them...

One other thing I would like to mention. One of the newspapers which i sent Griffins work to, VG, which is the biggest newspaper in Norway, moved the internet 9/11 discussion from the Foreign Politic section to...guess where...UFO section.
Im looking forward to the day of truth comes, I will remind them about that.

I did this in a hurry because of World Cup Soccer starting soon on TV ;), so apologize for any mistakes in translating :)

"Vesa, it's a broadsheet monthly newspaper published in Norway, Denmark and Sweden."

Wow!

I understand that some people are working on an English translation with the pictures, etc. Please let us know when that is ready.

Vesa, it's a broadsheet monthly newspaper published in Norway, Denmark and Sweden.

See some snapshots of it in the newsstands in downtown Oslo here:
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7200&...

i think this could be a big thing in mainstream media soon. i HOPE the rest will follow and do similar exposés.

Someone please post a presentable web version of the Norwegian article soon!

What is its distribution in paper format?

"After the blast in cellar heard he another from above."

Words for the camp fire.

We needs the entire world's help in bringing these Hitler-like NeoCons to justice!!!

Yeah, excellent stuff.

Looks like Nine-eleven will break from abroad.

I'm norwegian.. this article is packed with information about the evidence for controlled demolition, WTC7, witnesses hearing explosions, Zogby polls, David Ray Griffin, Steven Jones etc etc. This is one of the best articles I've seen so far. Very impartial and straight forward.. none of the tin foil hat bullshit..

This is one fine day, to be an American!
Independence Day, The Fourth of July, 2006

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/12564

http://diplo.no/pdf/0607/01.pdf

That gang of mother-fucking traitors, may seriously consider begging for sharifs protection! In fact, quite probably the only true law that can save them from being ripped to bloody shreds on Constitution Avenue.

Thank you Erik for the translation, and SD (South Dakota?) for sending this in.

Eirik, a summary would be very helpful.

I have a passable understanding of Norwegian.

Anti, please distribute the English version as soon as possible for example via the podcasts.

Thanks again very much guys. :)

Mainstream Media "tests" of revealing a 9/11 'truth' version?
http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?2178.100#pos...
Norwegian Le Monde: September 11- an Inside Job?

Rough Web Translation
http://911closeup.com/nico/norway_lemonde_911_roughtrans3.txt
http://911closeup.com/nico/norway_lemonde_911_roughtrans3.html
(no breaks, no lines)

Original
http://911closeup.com/nico/norway_lemonde_911.txt

(no wrap long lines, d/l and wrap the lines in text editor)

..Professor i fysikk ved
Brigham Young University i Utah, Steven
E. Jones tilbakeviser NISTs påstander om
Tvillingtårnene (se også Griegs artikkel).
Han henviser for eksempel til at øyenvitner
har observert stål ved alle de tre skyskraperne
som var smeltet (stålet ble i noen
tilfeller funnet glødende flere uker etter
angrepet) og bøyet på en måte som bare kan
ha blitt forårsaket av hva han betegner som
forhåndsplasserte «cutter charges»...

...Nicholas Levis sorterer i sitt
notat «Hva er ditt ’HOP’-nivå?»16 perspektivene
på angrepene i fire hovedtyper:
a) Den offisielle historien: At Osama bin
Laden var ansvarlig, at flyene ble kapret av
19 muslimske fundamentalister og at det
Det hvite hus ikke mottok noen advarsler.
b) Inkompetanseteorien: Aksepterer den
offisielle historien, men klandrer Det hvite
hus, FBI, CIA, NSA og andre for ikke å ha
fulgt opp de mange advarslene.

To clear something up:

Le Monde (The World) and Le Monde Diplomatique (The Diplomatic World) are two DIFFERENT newspapers. One (Le Monde) is a centrist French broadsheet daily and the other (LM Diplo) is a centre-left France-based, but internationally published, political weekly.

The Le Monde group own 51% of the shares in LMDiplo, and 49% is owned by readers (apparently).

But it is not correct to say that LMDiplo is Le Monde. They have different editorial boards, different journalists, different politics.

A similarity could be drawn between, eg the London Independent and the Irish Independent. Both are owned by the same company, but one (London) is a left-liberal daily while the other (Irish) is a centre-right daily. But they are not the same paper.

Partridge,

you got that right. But, as far as I can see, thats not the main issue. Regardless who the owners are, the story is coming out and might spread, hopefully.

heiner,

I'm a french reader of Le Monde diplomatique. Could you tel us more about the email adresse you sent and received :

"Dear sir,

Le Monde diplomatique will publish an article about the eleven
september in the next september issue.

Regards
Marie Laure marlet"

I don't know Marie Laure marlet and haven't read anything from her in Le Monde Diplomatique...

Until today, the french Monde diplomatique wasn't supporting 911 thruth. To the contrary, they wrote an article against it at the beginning of the public uncover by the french auther Thierry Meyssan. Serge Halimi, the US specialist of the paper wrote :

http://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/2002/05/HALIMI/16522

Cent quatre-vingts pages suffisent à boucler l’acte d’accusation. Et encore : nombre d’entre elles ne font que reproduire des discours de M. George W. Bush ou développer des sujets périphériques à la démonstration : suivisme des médias américains, rôle des religieux, assaut contre les libertés publiques.

La thèse de Thierry Meyssan, si simple et aveuglante qu’un petit livre suffirait à la démontrer ? « L’existence d’un complot au sein des forces armées pour perpétrer les attentats du 11 septembre (1). » Car, si la couverture du livre annonce qu’« aucun avion ne s’est écrasé sur le Pentagone », c’est bien la lecture de la totalité des attentats du 11 septembre qui est ici remise en cause. La coïncidence entre une explosion au Pentagone et la destruction du World Trade Center suggère en effet que, dans la mesure où les destructions du premier sont le produit d’un coup d’Etat occulté, les événements de New York doivent l’être aussi. Une note page 168 indique, à toutes fins utiles, qu’il est possible de remplacer en plein vol des avions de ligne remplis de passagers par des drones. Seraient-ce alors des drones qui auraient frappé les tours ?

Aux yeux de l’auteur, peu importe : les militaires sont disposés à sacrifier des milliers de civils américains pour justifier ainsi le réarmement du pays. Ils sont aussi prêts à enlever le président des Etats-Unis (M. George Bush aurait d’ailleurs « négocié et cédé à un chantage »), voire le tuer. Meyssan reprend alors sans barguigner la thèse, plus cinématographique qu’historique, du réalisateur Oliver Stone sur l’assassinat de John Kennedy à Dallas. Le jeune président aurait payé de sa vie le désir d’un apaisement avec Cuba et d’une paix au Vietnam ? La réalité est bien différente (2).

La réalité met à mal une autre hypothèse avancée comme élément de preuve. Ainsi on apprend (page 69) qu’« Henry Kissinger est la figure tutélaire, l’inspirateur des faucons » à l’origine du coup d’Etat. C’est mal connaître l’histoire américaine. Loin d’être le Pygmalion de la droite républicaine, M. Kissinger en est haï depuis qu’il a activé la dynamique de « détente » avec le bloc communiste.

A quoi bon continuer ? La vieille intuition du « à qui profite le crime ? » a fait naître un soupçon devant des attentats à ce point providentiels pour le « complexe militaro-industriel » américain. Les dissimulations officielles ont fait le reste, créant un espace dans lequel Meyssan s’est engouffré. Il ne restait ensuite aux grands médias qu’à accorder un écho inattendu à une critique qui leur permettait de discréditer ceux qui critiquent les médias (3). Pour le reste, l’auteur est fondé à ricaner quand, en France, parlant de « rumeur Internet » pour évoquer son livre fait de colle, de papier, d’encre et de conjectures, des quotidiens qui ont tour à tour gobé les charniers de Timisoara, les bébés de Koweït-Ville jetés hors des couveuses et le plan « fer à cheval » au Kosovo prétendent lui infliger une leçon de journalisme.