Chad Bray reports.
Airplane maker Boeing, major airlines and several airport operators, which face litigation from victims of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, sued the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Central Intelligence Agency on Tuesday in a bid to question current and former FBI and CIA employees.
In separate lawsuits, the airlines and others are challenging decisions by the FBI and the CIA that prevent them from conducting depositions of those employees. The airlines include American Airlines, United Airlines, US Airways, Delta Air Lines, Continental Airlines and AirTran. The operators of Logan airport in Boston, and Ronald Reagan National and Dulles airports in Washington, D.C., also are plaintiffs.
The lawsuits, filed in federal court in Manhattan, are related to ongoing negligence litigation over the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
In the FBI lawsuit, the plaintiffs are seeking to conduct depositions of: Scott Billings, a FBI special agent formerly assigned to the Joint Terrorism Task Force; Erik T. Rigler, a former FBI special agent; Michael Rolince, a FBI section chief for International Terrorism Operations Section from 1998 to 2002; Coleen M. Rowley, a former FBI special agent and Minneapolis Chief Division Counsel; and Harry Samit, a FBI special agent assigned to the Minneapolis Field office and Joint Terrorism Task Force in August and September 2001. The agents were involved in FBI investigations of the terrorist organization al Qaeda and its operatives before and after the Sept. 11 attacks, according to the complaint.
In the CIA lawsuit, they are seeking to depose a former deputy chief of the CIA’s Osama Bin Laden unit code-named “John” and a FBI special agent assigned to that unit code-named “Mary.” They are believed to have information regarding two of the hijackers who carried out the attacks, according to the complaint.
Special Agent Richard Kolko, a FBI spokesman in Washington, said he wasn’t aware of the lawsuits and the FBI wouldn’t comment on ongoing litigation. A call to the CIA’s public-affairs office in Langley, Va., wasn’t immediately returned late Tuesday.
42 who refused the hush money
I just submitted this too. From CBS. What I gather from this is that there are 42 victims from the airlines who did not take the hush money.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/07/national/main3144164.shtml
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.
I'd like to see them get
Marion "Spike" Bowman examined under oath.
"The Yoda of 9/11"
The Yoda of 9/11
"Pat Curley slices through the loony conspiracy theories at his influential "Screw Loose Change" Web site"
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2007-08-09/news/the-yoda-of-9-11/full
Formulaic, ad-hominem, poison the well, straw-man claims (voice morphing featured prominently) hit piece. This is more of what we are going to expect in the coming weeks I'm sure.
Everyone from Griffin, A. Jones, 911blogger, Loose Change, Rose O'Donnell, etc are hit with a constant barrage of straw-men.
This article is an embarrassment to honest journalism of course.
“We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality."
That's why they don't like
That's why they don't like Steven Jones, he sticks with the facts and the scientific method. No strawmen allowed.
Discussion...
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=13512...
stephen.lemons@newtimes.com
quick email sent:
look deeper
-WTC7 squibs
-ejections blasted 1/16" bones on roof of Deutche Bank and as far as FDR Drive East Manhattan
-lobbies of 3 award winning, military grade, steel superstructures, overdesigned by 20:1, blasted with no visible smoke damage
-Zelikow conflict of interest
-NIST conflict of interest
-UL tested steel, doubled time, doubled temp, skewed model
-Atta and co. not fanatical, devout Muslims but rather partiers
-watch WKJO.com and ZeitgeistMovie.com
-listen to music and commentary truth jukebox at TruthSeeker.us and/or MySpace.com/RoyShiversRap
-Read 'Debunking 9/11 Debunking' by DRG, check Amazon, it shreds NIST and PopMech (I hope you already know PopMech endured a purge b4 9/11)
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Amusingly transparent
Amusingly transparent smear-job. Some interesting inversions: Our hero is a reclusive 52-year old Star Wars conventioneer who lives in a squalor of comic books, who fancies himself a Jedi Knight yet specializes in defamation and personal assaults on the "credibility" of his opposition, who are likened to minions of the Empire.
“On the altar of God, I swear eternal hostility against all forms of tyranny over the mind of man."--Thomas Jefferson
Michelle Malkin is the celebrity endorsement for SLC?
*uncontrolled laughter*
CBS closed the comment section
I tried to leave a comment, but it says that the comments section closes 72 hours after publication of the article. Funny, since it has only been 24 hours. Most all of the comments were Pro- Truth.
Might lead to some answers
From the Joint Inquiry investigation. Claudio Manno was head of FAA's Intelligence Division at the time of 9/11:
WYDEN: With respect to Al Mihdhar and Al Hazmi, did your agency have the names of those two hijackers prior to September 11, 2001?
MANNO: Know, sir, we did not.
WYDEN: If you had, what steps would have been taken had you had that information?
MANNO: Well, prior to 9/11, we had a process -- and we had a so- called watchlist, which was disseminated to the industry of the other security directive process. In fact, a number of the people that were -- we suspected were involved in the -- what we call the Manila plot -- the Bojinka (ph) plot, as you refer to it -- were on that list.
And, again, what we would -- the purpose of that process was to highlight, for the air carriers, particular individuals -- individuals that had ties to terrorist groups and that presented a threat to aviation who should either be denied boarding or should be, if they showed up for boarding, be called to the attention of law enforcement.
Had we had information that those two individuals presented a threat to aviation or were -- posed a great danger, we would have put them on that list and, you know, they should have been picked up in the reservation process.
http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/hearings/911hearing-trans-oct01.htm
As for the airlines culpability, in the book Unsafe at any Altitude the authors (Joe and Susan Trento) tell the story of Dulles security checkpoint worker Eric Gill. Gill claims he saw alleged hijackers Nawaf al-Hazmi and Marwan al-Shehhi with employee uniforms/employee ID cards on 9/10. The inference is that the al Qaeda operatives could have used such access to sneak weapons on the planes. One mystery is why the pilots (as far as we know) didn't resist. The use of a gun would be a logical explanation.
I would guess the intelligence agencies will try to play the "national security" card. I hope the fact that CIA Director Tenet was allowed to publish a book that dealt with the exact same issues (watchlisting failures) will be used to prove national security isn't a valid defense for non compliance with a wrongful death suit.
One way of getting to the truth is by challenging flaws in the OCT. One of the flaws is the idea that the al Qaeda operatives were able to go undetected by US intelligence. Another is the notion that nobody in US intel thought to pick up a telephone and call the FAA for the purpose of putting al Qaeda operatives on a no fly list.
Sue the FBI & CIA
Make all the FBI and CIA take LIE DETECTOR tests