Solid 9/11 article on

Dr. Clyde Wilson has written an article (Sept. 18th) on entitled Black Ops --
Conspiracy and 9/11
. This is great to see questioning of the 9/11 official story is spreading.

Our late friend Murray Rothbard used to point out to those who scoffed at "conspiracy theories" that history is indeed full of real conspiracies, and that often conspiracy provides a more satisfactory explanation for an event than the "lone nut theory" that is popular with government spokespersons.

The continuing drumbeat of speculation that 9/11 may have been a U.S. government "black ops" mission, a charge coming from what seems to be a respectable minority of seemingly informed observers, tells us much about the sad condition of the American polity.

I am inclined to think that none of us can possibly have enough information to know the full truth about 9/11. We will not have such information for years, very possibly never. Why, we still don’t know the full truth about the Lincoln and Kennedy assassinations. In my always humble opinion, the incompetence demonstrated by our rulers before, during, and after 9/11 would be alone enough to bring down any government, without the need for revelations of complicity – if we had a responsible democratic regime.

I am not a "conspiracy theorist," but, like any old newspaperman, I am a skeptic. In the years of my misspent youth as a reporter I saw police chiefs, mayors, newspaper executives, and other dignitaries lie and distort and suppress the truth. I am inclined to suspect that such is even more likely among the feds, for whom the stakes are much greater.

Is the U.S. government capable of such an atrocity? I take this to be true: the politicians who wield the immense powers of the U.S. government will murder Americans if it serves their agenda and they can get away with. To think otherwise is to take an excessively naïve attitude toward Power. Those politicians have a lifetime record of self-serving and lack of moral principle – else they would not be where they are. Power corrupts. Power can only be checked by counter Power. The U.S. government exercises much power that is unchecked, unresponsible, and clandestine. This has been habitual and institutionalized at least since World War II.

Can we judge that the official government story of what happened on 9/11 is unreliable?

We know that politicians lied about the sinking of the "Maine," Pearl Harbour, the Gulf of Tonkin, Waco, and Iraqi WMD. This administration has engaged in more systematic and frequent deception of the public perhaps than any other in recent times. And has been successful at it because the public has never been more ignorant and the media more craven.

Yes, thoughtful citizens have every reason to suspect some self-serving deception in the government story, though this does not necessarily imply actual complicity in the atrocities. It might imply a cover-up of incompetence, irresponsibility, negligence, and fecklessness in high places. The strongest argument against the black ops theory, it seems to me, is that such an accomplishment is beyond the imagination and the competence of the politicians in power.

The most important point here is that Power is by its nature dangerous, acquisitive, and corrupting and must always be watched and questioned by people who wish to retain their freedom. This we have nearly forgotten, but was a watchword to our Founding Fathers. So, let's keep on doubting and challenging official "truth."

Why such a defaitistic

Why such a defaitistic statement:

"I am inclined to think that none of us can possibly have enough information to know the full truth about 9/11. We will not have such information for years, very possibly never"

If one doesn 't believe in victory one has already lost

Together we will make it happen!

this is a meme

planted by the perps. I'm practically sure of it: "none of us can possibly have enough information to know the full truth about 9/11."

Bullshit I say. Some are getting closer every day. Just follow the bouncing zionists. Attorney general nominee, say wha?

Never underestimate your enemy.

I was never interested in history. I am a forensic accountant. My mother thought I should have been a lawyer but I don't get anything from print in books so I went my own way. I guess she was right.

I ran into this the other day and have not had the opportunity to go back to the site and explore more. They have broken our 200+ year history into eight categories. You will need to use your mouse to shift the screen because they made the page to wide to see the entire page. The eighth category listed is "Globalization" (1989- ) and lists "George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush).

I may not be the brightest bulb in the package but I can't recall that our Constitution gives the President powers to try and run the world.
Didn't Hitler try to go that route ?
What, if anything does the United Nations think about this ?
We have been violating the 1945 signed Charter to the United Nations ever since the CIA was created in 1947.
Eisenhower/Nixon Administration funded covert operations, terrorist training, propaganda stations and sent insurgents into Cuba.
They admitted it in their "Family Jewels" that was recently released. Don't think for one minuet that I believe that they have admitted everything either.
They got away with confusion and chaos in Dallas. Had the Warren Commission Report been attacked as bad as we are trying to do to the 9/11 Commission report they never would have put the plans in motion, involved the other countries secret agencies, etc. to do 9/11.
But they did and they got backing from a great many other secret agencies, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Pakistan, their friends the Bin-Laden family, the UK, multi-billionaires like the crooked Frank Lowy, etc. They planned for more than two years, spent a great deal of money but it took a voter fraud in Florida for the US Supreme Court on a close decision, helped by some of the Judges who should have recuse themselves. Like maybe the one who George H.W. Bush appointed to the Supreme Court in what turned out to be the 2000 presidential give-a-way as well as the death of America and the Constitution, economy, land of the free, home of the brave "with Liberty and Justice for all".
There has not been any Justice since then. Nice words but apparently they are only being used to manipulate the people who really have no idea about what is going on and how much trouble we are really in financially.
I don't see any of the elected officials nor and Officers in the Military who are willing to live up to their oaths to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
The real terrorists are in Washington.


The strongest argument against the black ops theory, it seems to me, is that such an accomplishment is beyond the imagination and the competence of the politicians in power.

Did they want to go to war with Afghanistan and Iraq?
Did they want to make billions of dollars for their corporate friends?
Did they want to "transform" America's military?
Did they want to increase Executive power?
Did they want to expand America's power?


Did they manage to do all five?


How then can anyone argue that they are too incompetent?

Then, let's take a look at how competent they were at selling the wars. Then, let's take a look at how competent they are at stealing elections. Then, let's take a look at how competent they were at obstructing justice. And on, and on, and on...

Let's also not forget that their imagination was good enough to know that they would need a "New Pearl Harbor" in order to accomplish their goals.

A "Full And Complete Accounting" Of The 9/11 Attacks

when someone argues, "incompetent" I...

tell them basically the same thing. I just add that "they" are behind schedule and failed to maintain favorable public opinion and support but that is not important to them any more.

100 % Correct Jon -

It is appearing that they will be able to use the Presidential Directive # 51 prior to the 2008 presidential election.
If on nothing else they will put us in a depression economically. Did you notice how the price of oil has gone up to record highs and yet the gasoline is still less than $3.00 a gallon ?

The Traitors are running this country into the ground.
There is no Justice in America. They reward "incompetence" in the military with an appointment to the Joint Chief of Staffs.
No one has to obey their oaths, or they will end up like Jonh O'Niel and/or Frank Wilson's wife. No punishment for the offender either.

The are just keeping us busy with garbage, making financial slaves out of our children with the massive Student Loans to attend colleges and universities to get degrees that are worthless because there are no jobs.

Getting people into debt with the financial crisis. Do you really think that the government would release the real statistics about the financial condition of the country ?

I bet they don't even know the Truth about our national debt. They never were interested in finding out anything that has words included such as "truth" and/or "honor". There are a lot more but those are just words. They have no place in this United States Government unless they are using them against you.

I better stop. I'm sure this will get voted down. But at least I have a place to get it out of my system and share my thoughts with others.

Thank You 911

Where is William Wallace when we need him ?
God Save America

Where is William Wallace

Where is William Wallace when we need him ?
God Save America

Look in the mirror and you will see him staring back at you.
The 9/11 Truth B-Team

Great Comeback

God knows I'm trying.

Show "Southern Segregationist and Secessionist Hops Aboard" by Brainster

Good to see old Clyde

Good to see old Clyde finally taking some baby steps away from his usual obsession with the Civil War and the Lost Cause. At least he didn't blame 9/11 on the Yankees.

"The strongest argument against the black ops theory, it seems to me, is that such an accomplishment is beyond the imagination and the competence of the politicians in power."

Clyde, the only thing the politicians in power had to do was look the other way while Israeli intelligence carried out the job. Any nincompoop can do that. Then they sat back while Michael Chertoff and a handful of moles within the government covered it all up-- while the Zionist-controlled media played along.

I sometimes wonder

if I´m living on the same planet as the good Dr. Clyde!

I know 110% that 911 was an inside job.No doubt whatsoever.So why doesn´t he??

"Yes, thoughtful citizens have every reason to suspect some self-serving deception in the government story, though this does not necessarily imply actual complicity in the atrocities."

what a load of shit.The buildings were rigged from top to bottom.3 buildings rigged that took probably years of planning and months to carry out.Guiliani knew.Cheney knew.Bush knew.Rumsfeld knew.All their close associates knew.Silverstein knew,and on and on.

pathetic.Another pseudo 911 article.

Yes, but...

'Another pseudo 911 article.'

Yes, but the significant thing is the increasing number of commentators and news outlets who are feeling obliged to acknowledge and address this topic of skepticism towards the 9/11 official story--and how it wouldn't be happening without this movement. Even a lame, limited response is an indication of the effect we're having.

Let's hope their readers aren't so overly cautious in their own thoughts on the matter.



I sometimes wonder

if I´m living on the same planet as the good Dr. Clyde and people like him!

I know 110% that 911 was an inside job.No doubt whatsoever.So why doesn´t he??

"Yes, thoughtful citizens have every reason to suspect some self-serving deception in the government story, though this does not necessarily imply actual complicity in the atrocities."

what a load of shit.The buildings were rigged from top to bottom.3 buildings rigged that took probably years of planning and months to carry out.Guiliani knew.Cheney knew.Bush knew.Rumsfeld knew.All their close associates knew.Silverstein knew,and on and on.

pathetic.Another pseudo 911 article.

My Email to Prof. Clyde N. Wilson

Below is my email to Prof. Clyde N. Wilson in response to this article by him:


Dear Prof. Clyde N. Wilson,

In your recent article entitled "Black Ops: Conspiracy and 9/11" (, September 18, 2007), you state, "I am inclined to think that none of us can possibly have enough information to know the full truth about 9/11. We will not have such information for years, very possibly never. Why, we still don't know the full truth about the Lincoln and Kennedy assassinations."

While we may not know the *full truth* regarding such events, such is true of all human actions, as, e.g., we can't presently know their exact past states down to the quantum level, etc. But with many criminal events, we can know enough about them in order to reach the most important conclusions (concerning guilt or innocence by various parties) beyond any coherent doubt.

For example, we know (if you don't mind me borrowing your phraseological usage of "we") the principals (at least on the operational level) who assassinated President John F. Kennedy. Below is the audio and a transcript of CIA agent E. Howard Hunt's January 2004 taped confession wherein he names CIA agents Cord Meyer, Jr., Frank Anthony Sturgis, David Sánchez Morales and David Atlee Phillips (with E. Howard Hunt himself being brought into the plot in an ancillary role) as taking part in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy at the behest of Vice President Lyndon Baines Johnson. It is a recording E. Howard Hunt made as his deathbed confession to his son Saint John Hunt, at a time when Howard Hunt thought he was near his end. Although Howard Hunt would go on to live another three years, finally dying on January 23, 2007.

Everette Howard Hunt, Jr., January 2004

Analoguosly, we also know that the U.S. government staged the 9/11 attacks from beginning to end as a pretext for usurping ever more power and control. As an example, a truly vital piece of evidence that provides definitive proof that the World Trade Center towers were brought down by controlled demolition are the videos of yellow-hot molten metal seen cascading off the South Tower (World Trade Center Tower 2).

That piece of evidence isn't merely a smoking gun: it's a smoking nuclear cannon. Those videos, alone and by themselves, are irrefragable *proof* that the South Tower (at the very least) had thermite-like ("like" in the sense of producing comparable temperatures) incendiary demolition charges with the ability to easily slice through structural steel going off within it. There is no innocent explanation for what those videos record.

That is to say, the only way to get around that it is thermite which is causing that yellow-hot metal to cascade off the South Tower before its collapse would be to posit that we are seeing a different form of extremely powerful incendiary with thermite-like temperatures at work in the videos. Of which, even if true, would be every bit as much damning, since no such powerful indendiaries can be accounted for without involving a sinister intent to plant them there.

Below are videos which contain some of this footage:

"Shot from street level of South Tower collapsing," CameraPlanet

"Wtc 1, impact site close up, tower collapse close up, long shot, people shouting," CameraPlanet

From the color of the yellow-hot molten metal seen cascading off the South Tower, it had to be at least over 1000 °C, yet jet fuel burns in open air at 260-315 °C; nor do burning office, building, or plane materials impart temperatures anywhere near that hot to structural members (indeed, it would present quite a hazard if such articles were constructed with such powerful incendiaries, and so designers of such objects go out of their way to make sure that they are not). Thus, if it wasn't molten iron from thermite that we are seeing come off the South Tower, then by necessity a reaction source with a heat intensity very much like thermite had to be present. Yet there is nothing in the U.S. government's account that can explain such a heat source; indeed, there's nothing innocent that could explain it, since it requires some sort of extremely powerful incendiary.

For more on this, see Steven E. Jones's (Ph.D.; physicist and archaeometrist; former professor in the Department of Physics and Astronomy, Brigham Young University) below paper:

"Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Completely Collapse?," Dr. Steven E. Jones, Journal of 911 Studies, Vol. 3 (September 2006) (Older version.)

See also:

"Experiments to test NIST 'orange glow' hypothesis," Steven E. Jones, Ph.D., August 31, 2006

"Experiments with Molten Aluminum," Steven E. Jones with Wesley Lifferth, Jared Dodson, Jacob Stevenson and Shannon Walch, circa June 2006

"A description of molten aluminum poured onto rusty steel," Wes Lifferth, Physics Shop, Brigham Young University, Journal of 9/11 Studies, Vol. 9 (March 2007)

Moreover, even the official FEMA scientists Jonathan Barnett, Ronald R. Biederman, and R. D. Sisson, Jr. bolster the evidence that thermate (i.e., thermite with sulfur added, which causes it to slice through steel even faster by forming a eutectic alloy with it) was used to bring down the WTC towers (see "Appendix C: Limited Metallurgical Examination" in World Trade Center Building Performance Study: Data Collection, Preliminary Observations, and Recommendations, Federal Emergency Management Agency, FEMA 403, May 2002 ):

Evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation with subsequent inter granular melting, was readily visible in the near-surface microstructure. ... No clear explanation for the source of the sulfur has been identified. The rate of corrosion is also unknown.

And in the below paper it is conclusively proved via chemical analysis using wavelength dispersive X-ray spectroscopy (WDS), scanning electron microscopy (SEM), and X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (X-EDS) that large quantities of thermite analogs (such as thermate) were used in the destruction of the World Trade Center towers:

"Revisiting 9/11/2001--Applying the Scientific Method," Dr. Steven E. Jones, Journal of 911 Studies, Vol. 11 (May 2007)


Besides which, al-Qaeda was founded by the U.S. government and has always been used in furtherance of U.S. government interests.

Regarding your comments concerning governmental incompetency, it's a myth that government (particularly a well-established government, as opposed to some Third World tin-pot dictatorship that only manages to last a few years) is incompetent. This myth is perpetuated by governments themselves, as whenever their criminality becomes too glaring they can always fall back on it as an excuse.

Rather, it's that it's not in the government's *incentive* to protect their subjects or, e.g., have their projects come in on budget, etc. The government's incentive and actual practice is to increase the crime (including via terrorism and war), which thereby provides it with pretexts for usurping ever more liberty and wealth from their subjects.

Take a simple example like constructing roads. Where's the incentive for the government to come in on budget or build them correctly? It's not like the public can just fire the government and hire a different builder. Yet the agencies that go over budget or build them slipshod get all that much more funding in so doing.

If they come in on budget and build them correctly, then people will say, "Great, the money that was allocated was enough," and hence the agencies don't get to whine about being underfunded and needing ever more money.

So when you hear about government doing something along the lines of purchasing thousand-dollar ordinary toilet seats and hammers, some government-connected people are making scads of money off of it.

If the well-established governments were actually incompetent, then their "mistakes" would cost them funding, power and control. Yet far from that, their "mistakes" bring them ever more funding, power and control.

That's not incompetence--not by a long shot. Rather, this is due to the inherent perverse incentive structure of government (having as it does it a coercive legal monopoly on ultimate use of force and coercive taxing income which is not connected to voluntarily contracted services rendered). But the government is more than happy to fall back on the incompetence excuse.

For an economic analysis on the incentive structure of government (i.e., the internal logic of the system) which guarantees that it will be the tendency of governments to intentionally increase crime (including terrorism and war), see my below article:

"Government Causes the Crime," James Redford, first published at circa October 2001


Lastly, Prof. Wilson, in your article here under discussion, you state of yourself, "I am not a 'conspiracy theorist' ...," yet that's not correct. Anyone with an I.Q. high enough to tie their shoes is a "conspiracy theorist." Indeed, so strong is this indicator that it can be veridically stated that a required component of sapience is belief in conspiracies (unless one posits an intelligence which has only known a world without evil).

A conspiracy is simply when two or more people take part in a plan which involves doing something unrightful or untoward to another person or other people (of which plan may or may not be kept secret, i.e., secrecy is not a necessary component for actions to be a conspiracy). This makes government itself the largest corporeal conspiracy to ever exist (given that it exists via a double-standard of doing unto others what it does not want done unto it), or that could ever exist.

Since obviously more than one person was involved in planning the 9/11 attacks, then *by definition* the U.S. government's offical fairy tale is a conspiracy theory, as the U.S. government is putting forth a theory concerning the 9/11 attacks which involves a conspiracy.

Furthermore, conspiracies are ubiquitous (witness all the laws on the books against conspiracy, and how many people are routinely charged under said laws), and the most egregious perpetrators of murderously brutal conspiracies are governments upon their own innocent citizens. More than six times the amount of noncombatants have been systematically murdered for purely ideological reasons by their own governments within the past century than were killed in that same time-span from wars. From 1900 to 1923, various Turkish regimes murdered from 3.5 million to over 4.3 million of its own Armenians, Greeks, Nestorians, and other Christians. The Soviet government murdered over 61 million of its own non-combatant subjects. The communist Chinese government murdered over 76 million of it own subjects. And Germany murdered some 16 million of it own subjects in the past century. And that's only a sampling of governments mass-murdering their own noncombatant subjects within the past century. (The preceding figures are from Prof. Rudolph Joseph Rummel's website at .)

All totaled, neither the private-sector crime which government is largely responsible for promoting and causing or even the wars committed by governments upon the subjects of other governments come anywhere close to the crimes government is directly responsible for committing against its own citizens--certainly not in amount of numbers. Without a doubt, the most dangerous presence to ever exist throughout history has always been the people's very own government.

Not only were all of these government mass-slaughters conspiracies--massive conspiracies, at that--but they were conspiracies of which the 9/11 attacks are quite insignificant by comparison.

Moreover, terrorism is the health of the state (indeed, government is itself a subset of terrorism), which is why so many governments throughout history have manufactured duplicitous terrorism in which to serve as a pretext in order to usurp ever more power and control. In the below post by me is contained voluminous amounts of documentation which refutes the U.S. government's lying, self-serving, anti-historical, anti-factual, and provably false official fairy tale conspiracy theory concerning the 9/11 attacks, as well documentation on many other government-staged acts of terrorism:

"Documentation on Government-Staged Terrorism," September 30, 2005

In the below post by me, I provide massive amounts of documentation wherein the U.S. government itself admits it is holding innocent people indefinitely without charges (including children and U.S. citizens), torturing them, raping them--including homosexually anally raping them--and murdering them, and that the orders to do so came from the highest levels of the U.S. government:

"Crushing Children's Testicles: Welcome to the New Freedom," TetrahedronOmega, August 12, 2006


Take care, Prof. Wilson.


James Redford, author of "Jesus Is an Anarchist," revised and expanded edition, June 1, 2006



"Terrorism is the health of the State."--James Redford, author of "Jesus Is an Anarchist," June 1, 2006

Information for Dr. Wilson et al

I am a private citizen in Dallas TX, but have been contacted by world leaders, including the President, oil executives, etc. I am known in the intelligence community as "the information seer". I was told years in advance details of plans for 911 and other world events. It is not a minority faction of our government that are knowing and willing participants in the sadistic world plan, the problem is system wide! And I call the mass media "the MInistry of Propaganda".
Our government is not interested in stopping terrorism - but instead orchestrates and facilitates it. World leaders are part of a cult like organization lead by Mike and Bill Kieschnick and Lee Raymond. These persons have described themselves to me and demonstrated that they are "pure evil".
As in Macheavelli, there is nothing but an appearance of respectibility in our leadership. Every branch of government and all enforcement and regulatory agencies exist to protect this organization, NOT for the purpose of attianing justice and truth.

'Information seer'?

Why would world leaders have contacted you? What did they think you had to offer them that they couldn't get elsewhere? How many years in advance of 9/11 were you informed of details of the plot? What details of 9/11 were you told about? By whom? Why would they have related these details to you? Would they have simply done this without expecting something in return? Have you ever related this information elsewhere? If not, what causes you to speak up at this time?


I was told general plans for the attack as early as 1957 - long before the plans were even drawn for the WTC. At this time, I met former and future presidents as well as other world leaders. They told me with 100% accuracy who would be elected president for the next several generations. This organization has ties to the Dallas Masonic Lodge. I had family members in the lodge and with the Eastern Star. Also, I am a direct descendant of Albert Speer. I have mainstream political and religious beliefs and these persons are obsessed with telling such a person about their true beliefs and intentions. I have tried to stop the harassment for years, but have found the legal system totally in their controll. I personally contacted many Senators and House members (concerning terrorism, the drug trade, and my personal situation) by more than one "What makes you think that we are trying to stop it." I know this is an inadequary explanation but we are dealing with persons with bizarre beliefs and modus Operendi. TD


You refer to 'Mike and Bill Kieschnick'. Is Michael Kieschnick, head of the ostensibly progressive Working Assests a brother of (or have some other relation to) William Kieschnick, former Arco executive?

the president contacted you?

the president contacted you? George W. Bush contacted you? about what exactly? what did he say? what about Lee Raymond? what did he say? you understand how this looks right?

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

Encounter with President Bush

Hi Chris; My last face to face meeting with the President occurred at 3131 McKinney Ave in Dallas - circa Dec. of 2001. Also present were his father and a powerful foreign head of state. Our conversation was primarily about my personal situation in an upcoming legal battle in the Texas state courts in an employment discrimination lawsuit against Huitt Zollars Inc. He told me that he still had influence in Texas and would see to it that I did not get anywhere with the suit. He was correct. Huitt Zollars is heavily involved with the Kieschnicks. When the subject turned to my objection to his sacrificing American lives in 911 simply for the purpose of creating a media event, the president said something interesting: "The world as we know it is a media event." The President said that our conversation was off the record, so he will likely deny ever having been there or even knowing me. Another interesting part of the conversation was when he and Geo. Herbert Walker Bush referred to EACH OTHER as "Dad" But the reason for that is another subject and we will discuss 911.
My father is a former Mobil employee and Lee Raymond used the name John Lee and was CEO there before the merger with Exxon. I knew him personally as Benny Parks in the early 70's. I have since assisted him and other company employees with scientific and engineering theory and practical applications - but have never received one bit of compensation for it. Mr. Raymond told me of his involvement years before the fact of a number of upcoming planned destructive events as well as his own history (other AKA's etc.) and the real world history.
Mr. Colby is absolutely right. The former President Bush once introduced himself to me as "the former director of the CIA" rather than former President. He went on to say the he viewed that as a more powerfol position that the presidency. Mr. Colby's statement about owning the key members of the media is an understatement. Their influence extends to all areas of the entertainment industry. And I have heard, from people who know, that the world's entire political system is little more than entertainment. The intelligence community heavily influences every branch of government too. It is going to be difficult to attain justice even when they are caught redhanded!

i dont even know what to say

i dont even know what to say man. you do understand how hard to believe this is right? i dont mean to insult you but it just sounds insane that somebody of such importance that hes met world leaders and members of the Bush family would come and post on 911blogger. if you're telling the truth, did you tell anybody about 9/11? do you have any kind of proof that you knew in advance?

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

The Shore Patrol

I have spoken up but I have no proof. I do know from firsthand experience that persons in this organization think nothing of comitting perjury - and the Judicial system, also being political, will protect them - thus my previous statement about the difficulty of attaing truth and justice.
I am reminded of a 1970's movie "TheLast Detail". When a merchant complains about the boys getting rowdy and threatens to call the shore patrol, the character played by Jack Nicholson replys: "We are the F%%%% shore patrol." My frank conversation with the President included him mimmicking that line. I don't think that you realize the scope of this organization's influence and fail to realize how broken down the system is. For instance, I know of several high profile court cases reported as fact that are nothing but a show (even with victims reported dead that I have since seen using different names)! As I stated earlier, the elected branches and the media are the same way - there is only the appearance of scrutiny and dissent. The only thing you will ever get from the media or government will be dangerous half-truths and outright lies. My comments were hidden to an artical on page 1 referring people to my dialog with you. I thought that your organization might be interested in my information. Perhaps my speaking up now was a waste of time. TD

Bill Kieschnick et al

Yes RM - Bill is the former Arco CEO. Mike (I am not sure if it is the Michael that you refer to) is his son. Lee Raymond is of course, former CEO of Exxon Mobil. All at times use assumed names - and I have had lifelong dealings with all of them. For instance of an AKA ; Bill K. most recently used the identity of Bonnie O'Brien. Yes - Bonnie she is transgender.) This is the core of a powerful and bizarre "cult -like" organization with emmense world wide influence. You or anyone interested are welcome to contact me at , or or by mail at 11923 High Meadow Dr. _ Dallas TX 75234-7717. I will provide you with any details that I have.

I understand your doubts

I agree that the involvement of an average and private citizen by giving them information is unexplainable, but we are dealing with persons who by (some by there own defination) are 'bizarre and insane." It was explained to me that they have become so powerful that they are in need of someonte to challenge their power and that they find the invasion of my privacy and giving me such deperessing information amusing. This will be my last post unless asked questions. Before I close, I want to give you some information that may be of help in your investigation.
1. The intelligence community is quite advanced in the use of lifelike robotics. You can have close contact without even knowing that it is a robotic device. The planes in the 911 attack were likely in part guided by remote control and the use of some robotic devices.
2. The use of genetic engineering, surgical techniques (including bionics and implants) have created what almost amounts to a different species. Many world leaders are of this group.
3. The use of a low frequency magnetic signal with the waveform of brainwaves is extensivly used on the general population. It can cause memory lapses and effects judgement and mood.
Believe what you want, but I assure you that everything I have said here and in previous posts is true. I wish you and others in your endeavor to attain the truth and justice. If I can help - let me know. TD