POSTCARD UPDATE (Bottom of post) -- NYC CAN Update: Now 35,000 signatures
(I have written to the Executive Council to ask that Dr. Edgar Mitchell recuse himself from this Commission, should the Ballot Initiative be a success. I ask that others who share this concern write here: info@nyccan.org - include details which bolster your opinion. There is no guarantee that Council members will check this site for news. Please also use the above email address for further criticism of the Commission, which you can read about in comments linked in the following threads: NYC Ballot Initiative relaunched as NYCCAN - The New York City Coalition for Accountability Now and William Pepper Writes in Support of NYC CAN. It's possible that the Executive Council is not aware of all of this information, and again, there is no guarantee that they read this site. -rep.) (NYC CAN has added a post card as a tool to help get the word out -- see update at bottom of this post. -rep.)
Dear Friends Around The World,
Thanks to your generous support and ongoing efforts to keep 9/11 front and center, NYC CAN eclipsed the milestone of 35,000 signatures on Sunday, April 26, 2009.
We continue to charge ahead collecting hundreds of signatures everyday, but we can only continue with YOUR support.
NYC CAN is growing. Our petitioners are becoming ever more skilled, now collecting a rate of one signature for every dollar we spend. We have so far raised a total of $7,800, and with the exception of modestly paying one representative to do full-time outreach and fundraising, every dollar spent so far has gone into paying petitioners to be out on the streets. Within two months, we will have the required number of signatures to not only submit the petition but to submit it with full certainty the referendum will be on the ballot come November 3, 2009.
We urge you now to dig deep so we can continue this effort. If every person who reads this letter acts now to become a member of NYC CAN by donating just $25, we will quickly surpass the bare minimum of $60,000 required to fund the rest of our petitioning effort.
Please join our commitment to answers, accountability and action by standing together and donating what you can - $25, $50 or $500 - today.
DONATE (http://nyccan.org/donate.php)
One real chance. One real investigation.
Sincerely,
Ted Walter
Executive Director
Frank Morales
Treasurer
EXECUTIVE COUNCIL
Donna Marsh O’Connor
Bob McIlvaine
Jean Canavan
Edith Beaujon
Janette MacKinlay
William Rodriguez
The New York City Coalition for Accountability Now www.NYCCAN.org
Dear Friends Around The World,
NYC CAN’s newest communication material is the NYC CAN Postcard. Our petitioners and volunteers will begin handing these out to thousands of New Yorkers next week. Get involved in this historic campaign by printing out this postcard in the hundreds and handing it out in your hometown. If you are hosting an event, be sure to notify us and we will have the required number of postcards printed and mailed to your door. Together we can make NYC CAN a national and international phenomenon so that when November 3, 2009 rolls around, all eyes will be on the voters of New York City to stand up and vote for answers.
Sincerely,
Ted Walter
Executive Director
Frank Morales
Treasurer
EXECUTIVE COUNCIL
Donna Marsh O’Connor
Bob McIlvaine
Jean Canavan
Edith Beaujon
Janette MacKinlay
William Rodriguez
The New York City Coalition for Accountability Now www.NYCCAN.org
Postcard front:
http://www.911podcasts.com/files/images/NYCCANPostcardFront.pdf
Postcard back:
http://www.911podcasts.com/files/images/NYCCANPostcardBack.pdf
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No Disrespect To Dr. Mitchell
His resume does not seem to qualify him for a criminal investigation.
The success of this project will be largely based on its perceived credibility.
Yes I agree
We have to stick to the matter at hand.
911 is too big and difficult for the masses to swallow and digest without the Burdens of other easily discredited "UFO"-"ET" Proponents.
The tin-foil label is beginning to tire me and I for one DO NOT WANT the Truth Community linked with UFOlogy in anyway whatsoever.
Those are separate issues altogether.
Credibility.
Perceived.
And MORE IMPORTANT.
REAL.
Ultimately the PERPS will be judged by We The People. As well as GOD.
Not the Superstars of the Media.
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BTW, (this is awesome and worth watching if you want a good laugh about the Flying Pig Virus. Funny but very true as it talks about betrayal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbt_PuVAVTU
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The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it
Thank you very much for mentioning Mitchell
Reprehensor,
Thank you for bringing attention to Mitchell.
no disrespect not to mitchell but to nyc can
such comments as these.. when 35,000 signatures of NYC voter petitions have been collected, are not disrespectful to Edgar Mitchell, but puts negativity on the best campaign our movement has finally reached after 8 years, to come so close to a fair and authoritative investigation..
often movements, people, sabotage their own success from fear..
fortunately 911blogger is not the driving force behind this campaign..
but one would wonder who are the allies to NYC CAN
certainly no other 9/11 group has accomplished as much..
anything can be improved.. but if you can't see the forest through the trees,
you are missing something..
jonathan mark
reference: William Pepper Writes in Support of NYC CAN
http://911blogger.com/node/19880
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"often movements, people,
"often movements, people, sabotage their own success from fear.."
It is more of Concern rather than Fear.
You have a point and so do we with our concerns on possible Co-Intel Pro, the danger of the spin doctors using the UFO/ET Myth, which Mitchell is such a Proponent of, to discredit in a VERY BIG and FINAL way the 911 Truth Investigations.
Its to going to be a delicate matter indeed.
I hope for the sake of Justice for the Victims you are right and Edgar Mitchell is on the level. Its just that some of us aren't that sure and have our reservations.
The rest of the Panel on the other hand are some of the best people in the Movement.
So this is a good effort. But it would be wise not to put all our eggs in one basket.
The issue is NOT NYC CAN - it is potential Co-Intel Pro Ops from "UFO"- logists etc...
http://greyfalcon.us/pictures/Flying%20Saucers.htm
http://www.911blogger.com/node/19880#comment-207034
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The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it
exaggerated concern
The big issue is not if Edgar Mitchell is into UFOs, or how people respond to a controversial side-issue - 35,000 people signed a petition for a new investigation following the evidence of 9/11, not to determine if the project could get sabotaged based on Edgar Mitchell statements on UFO's.
It would be a shame if the "concern" of how the public may view one of the commissioners shuts down the momentum to even have the question on the ballot this year. These concerns have delayed the vote for a year already, I believe. NYC citizens are much more broad minded than some at 911blogger on this off-topic issue... or how some may perceive it... that is why 35,000 signed the petition because the bigger issue is not based on perceptions, but on following the evidence and uncovering facts on 9/11/01..
It is not a criminal investigation at this point... but this may be what the group of Commissioners may report based on this investigation, so a criminal investigation could then proceed. The key is now to get the question on the ballot. Not how to control the presence of one person in an organization committed to get the truth out. Thus, the fear is exaggerated to justify focusing on this... than the job on hand... 75,000 NYC petitions to demand a vote for an independent real investigation.
jonathan
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BRAVO NYC CAN
Your hard work is an inspiration to us all.
"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government." -The Declaration of Independence
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Edgar Mitchell
Edgar Mitchell has sponsored and founded one of the most advanced research facilities in the US, the Institute of Noetic Sciences in Petaluma California. From their web site:
"We are a nonprofit membership organization located in Northern California that conducts and sponsors leading-edge research into the potentials and powers of consciousness—including perceptions, beliefs, attention, intention, and intuition. The Institute explores phenomena that do not necessarily fit conventional scientific models, while maintaining a commitment to scientific rigor."
Author and researcher Dean Radin (Entangled Minds) is on the faculty http://www.noetic.org/research/faculty.cfm
Some of the researchers here are tops in the field of belief and extrasensory perception. "Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe", co-author and AE911Truth member Gregg Roberts and I were just discussing the importance of the topic of "Belief" as it relates to the events of September 11, 2001 on our recent drive to hear Steven Jones speak at UC Davis, where I learned that noted UFO researcher and unusual phenomenon scholar Linda Mouton Howe, http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1555&category=Science
had just interviewed Steven about the above mentioned paper. If UFO connections bothered Steven Jones, I'm sure he wouldn't have agreed to the interview. A scan though Linda's web site will reveal that her interests are scholarly and well documented. Dennis Kucinich has also expressed an openness to talking about UFOs in a report by Shirley MacLaine. Should his endorsement of a new 9/11 investigation be shunned as well?
Edgar Mitchell holds a PhD in Aeronautics and Astronautics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He was a distinguished astronaut in the early space program. Noetic Sciences speaks to the courage and fearlessness of his intellectual pursuits and it would be unwise for us here at 911blogger to start associating him with UFO nuts, lest we forget that many movements have within them, the un-scholarly fringe element. Do we want to start rejecting people who express unorthodox views without investigating the integrity of their scholarship? I think not, because then we become like our enemies.
Think about it.
John
I agree
Edgar Mitchell has some incredible credentials and a willingness to consider what most will not dare to. The challenge to his qualifications is even more absurd when you consider the qualifications of some of the other Commissioners. The Edgar Mitchell thing has been blown way out of proportion. Some of the other Commissioners can just as easily be picked out by the media as wackos or at least as having an obvious bias. No Commissioner is going to enjoy universal support. It's time for us to move on and all get behind what is our most promising opportunity to establish a new investigation. It's not difficult to see.
Obviously
If commissioners are involved in UFO-research, they'll be quickly discredited by 'friends' of the criminal network in the media. (There are plenty) That's what you call a set-up in the making. It would be wise to turn around before walking off that cliff. It's not necessarily the UFO-research, but the perception of UFO-researchers that damages credibility. There is an enormous difference between (A) research into (alien made) crop circles, (fake) moon landings and (alien) UFO's and (B) research into political assassinations, military incidents and terrorist attacks. The former are far fetched conspiracy theories, the latter conspiracy facts. If you fail to understand and draw the line, you lose. No disrespect to group (A) intended, but they have no business in 9/11 research. UFO ~ NPT?
Also, nowhere in the NYCCAN / 911 independent commission list of unanswered questions do I see any mention of the absolutely astonishing WTC 1, 2 and 7 'collapse' research by Jones, Ryan, Harrit, Legge, Chandler, Gage, Ross, etc. etc. Correct me if I'm wrong? I hope all the empirical evidence from this investigation, which has cost the blood sweat and tears of many 9/11 researchers, is included; otherwise, the whole mission seems compromised. As I recall, "Improbable Collapse" showed just how powerful a case in a court of law based on such evidence would be. It shouldn't be excluded.
Millions of people around the world died or lost their liberty because of 9/11. They are entitled to a good investigation as well. There won't be another one, so you have to be absolutely unforgiving w.r.t. to the standards the commissioners and their questions must live up to. Commissioners must be screened, thouroughly. Time to have some clarity on that subject. This might sound harsh, and I guess it is. These thoughts I have atm were provoked a bit by Reprehensor's playlist about William Schaap . The best expose / explanation about disinformation I've seen so far.
Some good points SnowCrash,
Some good points SnowCrash, regarding the Jones paper. As for Miychell, let him address the question. One of the problems in the press is self-censorship, let's be wary of doing that ourselves. Though your concerns about how the "fiends of the criminal network in the media" will portray this, is well intentioned, Mitchell stands on a much bigger platform of research as mentioned here by me above. The panel ought to be composed of legal, judicial and scientific scholars it would seem. So why is a Hollywood actor on the commission? Let the commissioners sort this out for themselves.
I would trust the judgments of William Pepper.