We Were Lied To About 9/11 - Episode 13 - John Albanese


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jESBXF6H9U

John Albanese an independent filmmaker and writer from New York City and was one of the original members of New York 9/11 Truth. John's film "Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime" received national attention when it premiered at the Tribeca screening room during the Tribeca Film Festival in 2006.

Why are you always on about this?

Jon, you are always on about this "too many cooks spoil the broth thing." To me it is like the Mahayana versus Hinayana argument; although I am told Buddhists don't like those appellations any more; I just don't know how else to put it. There is this process that is called "thinking" that goes like the following: Nico Haupt (mentioned in the video) takes you to Paula Gloria takes you to J. Z. Knight takes you to horse thief takes you to 35,000 year old spirit Ramtha "channeled" by Knight takes you to Pseudo Science movie What the Bleep do We Know!? . This is where "thinking" comes into play: the brain should go: (buzzer effect here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OVr3EfB_z8) "Error, Error, Error, branch on decision error, algorithm needs pruning* and then you go back and run it again. Did the "juiced ball theory" have any impact on your acceptance of the "juiced player" reality?

*Edit for clarification after voting:

Pruning: Pruning is a technique in machine learning that reduces the size of decision trees by removing sections of the tree that provide little power to classify instances. The dual goal of pruning is reduced complexity of the final classifier as well as better predictive accuracy by the reduction of overfitting and removal of sections of a classifier that may be based on noisy or erroneous data.

Pruning and Tuning

I liked your pruning comments. I'm wondering if prioritization might be just as fruitful. I mean the correct ordinal placement of leaves toward the end of a branch, instead of between the roots and the trunk, might allow the details to be plentiful, without making us choose whether or not we should duck, walk around, or scratch our heads upon each encounter/recursive iteration.

Nostalgia hours

Not sure where Gladio Plan B revelations fall into your spectrum of trust. By your consistent omissions of the facts and evidence brought to us by Sibel, under the program named Gladio Plan B (named at least by the FBI), coupled with the unspoken narrative of PNAC, the missing big picture perspective which ties 9/11 to so many other events, such as the hideous War on Drugs, I can't imagine why you failed to alleviate your guest's frustrations with pigeonholed activism.

Why? Is it because Gladio Plan B has no nostalgic, back-when-I-started-verything, value? I can't help but notice that most of the conversation is about your characters.

Have you even read The Lone Gladio?

Had your guest heard of either Gladio Plan B or The Lone Gladio?

Dude...

Again, no one has promoted Sibel or her statements or articles pertaining to her moreso than me over the years so back off with this constant whining about me not mentioning Gladio B in my interviews. I asked Sibel to be on my show, and she said sometime next year.

With regards to Gladio B, here is the response to my FOIA request for anything from the FBI pertaining to "Gladio B."

https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/federal-bureau-of-investigation-files-pertaining-to-gladio-b-1404...

"Based on the information you provided, we conducted a search of the Central Records System. We were unable to identify main file records responsive to the FOIA. If you have additional information pertaining to the subject that you believe was of investigative interest to the Bureau, please provide us the details and we will conduct an additional search."

That doesn't necessarily mean there is nothing there. The documents could fall under the "State Secrets Privilege," and they might be classified. I don't have experience with FOIA's. Is that something they tell you if that is the case?

Evidence

You don't consider Sibel's testimony to be evidence enough to talk about it? Thinking gov is going to give the evidence?

First of all...

How do you know I'm not talking about it elsewhere with other people? You don't. Secondly, as I pointed out to you before, I was supposed to talk about Gladio B with Nafeez Ahmed, but never got around to it. I even posted the question I was supposed to ask him for you. I'll do it again.

"Sibel Edmonds, a former FBI Translator, a 9/11 Whistleblower, someone who was retaliated against, someone who had 2 gag orders placed on her, someone the families brought before the 9/11 Commission, etc… and so on, made some alarming allegations with regards to the U.S. Government's relationship with Osama Bin laden. Can you tell us about this?"

And we did talk about Sibel a little regardless. As I posted on Facebook today, I saw what Sibel said about "Gladio B," and confirmed it with James Corbett...

From James Corbett whom I emailed on the subject…

As Sibel has explained, "Gladio B" was a name used internally at the FBI to identify the operation, not an official program name.

"The title 'Gladio B' was given by the FBI, because we don’t know what they really call it." - Sibel Edmonds

As I posted on Facebook today, "I just wanted a document that I could show everybody. That's the only reason I did this. It wasn't an attempt at discrediting her. Imagine if we had a document about "Gladio B." It might have been enough for people to say WTF?"

And for the last time, I asked Sibel to be on my show, and she said she couldn't until next year.

I'm not going to be pressured into talking about or believing anything. Just like I didn't accept being pressured into talking about or believing a missile hitting the Pentagon, or that Flight 77 flew over the Pentagon, or that the planes we saw that hit the towers were CGI, or that the New World Order was responsible for 9/11, etc... and so on. Sibel's claims, based on ALL OF THE HISTORY ABOUT HER (history which I helped to document), are obviously more credible than those other claims, but the point is the same. I will not be pressured. Not by constant postings asking me "why don't you talk about Gladio B?" or by accusations or insinuations that there is some nefarious reason for me not talking about it during an interview.

I'm thinking about having a show that talks about how the 9/11 Report is based on the tortured testimony of individuals. When I don't bring up Gladio B then, will you again ask me the same question?

Reason

How do you know I'm not talking about it elsewhere with other people? You don't.

Never said you weren't. The context of my comments has been about your new series, where the info about GPB would be especially useful.

Secondly, as I pointed out to you before, I was supposed to talk about Gladio B with Nafeez Ahmed, but never got around to it. I even posted the question I was supposed to ask him for you. I'll do it again.

"Sibel Edmonds, a former FBI Translator, a 9/11 Whistleblower, someone who was retaliated against, someone who had 2 gag orders placed on her, someone the families brought before the 9/11 Commission, etc… and so on, made some alarming allegations with regards to the U.S. Government's relationship with Osama Bin laden. Can you tell us about this?"

Good for you!

And we did talk about Sibel a little regardless. As I posted on Facebook today, I saw what Sibel said about "Gladio B," and confirmed it with James Corbett...

From James Corbett whom I emailed on the subject…

As Sibel has explained, "Gladio B" was a name used internally at the FBI to identify the operation, not an official program name.

"The title 'Gladio B' was given by the FBI, because we don’t know what they really call it." - Sibel Edmonds

And this seems to be the extent of your knowledge about Gladio Plan B. I have also alluded to the fact that this is what was on the label of the FBI file, the one investigating this program. If you had listened to the 6-part series with Corbett, you would also know that Sibel has called it an official, institutionalized program run out of an office in the Pentagon - the same physical office that ran the original Gladio, in fact.

As much as you want to say that I'm playing "gotcha" with you, I'm definitely not. I see this information as so game-changing that I am imploring alt-media producers to talk about it. Your comments have been very evasive and defensive. I'm sorry if I put you in that mode, because it wasn't my original intention. But, I'm human, and I may have reacted to one of your egotistical, self-aggrandizing, non-points (because I can tell you don't yet know what you're talking about with Gladio Plan B).

As I posted on Facebook today, "I just wanted a document that I could show everybody. That's the only reason I did this. It wasn't an attempt at discrediting her. Imagine if we had a document about "Gladio B." It might have been enough for people to say WTF?"

I don't use FB, but I can agree that having "a document" would help people say "WTF?" But, that should never be a reason to delay. I never said you were trying to discredit her. But, you keep saying that you aren't talking about it on your shows because it hasn't met your criteria yet (at least that's what it sounds like.) Examples:

No FOIA documents = Not going to hold my breath.

Sibel hasn't given her testimony directly to you yet = (why does this matter? the info is available and has been for over TWO YEARS, in depth. I have been talking about it and sharing it for that long. I haven't changed my sense of urgency about it the whole fucking time either. This isn't a new let's jump on Jon Gold game. This recent idea to really start urging alt-media producers DIRECTLY, came about with the release of The Lone Gladio. In other words, Sir Jon, the Mightiest Supporter of Sibel, the time has come for this information to be talked about widely and the book has made a great impact in that direction. I'm trying to do my part and I see the level of alt-media producer as the highest priority for reasons I can expound upon if you wish to hear them.

And for the last time, I asked Sibel to be on my show, and she said she couldn't until next year.

You're sounding senile with that statement. I have no idea why this matters. The information has been available in great detail for years.

I'm not going to be pressured into talking about or believing anything. Just like I didn't accept being pressured into talking about or believing a missile hitting the Pentagon, or that Flight 77 flew over the Pentagon, or that the planes we saw that hit the towers were CGI, or that the New World Order was responsible for 9/11, etc... and so on. Sibel's claims, based on ALL OF THE HISTORY ABOUT HER (history which I helped to document), are obviously more credible than those other claims, but the point is the same. I will not be pressured. Not by constant postings asking me "why don't you talk about Gladio B?" or by accusations or insinuations that there is some nefarious reason for me not talking about it during an interview.

At least we know lots and lots about you and your character. Everybody, if you think some information is important, be sure not to pressure Jon, or he will shut down about it and start blathering about how he's done more for blah blah than anybody blah. But, you're becoming the Rodney Dangerfield of Truth. No respect, right?

I'm thinking about having a show that talks about how the 9/11 Report is based on the tortured testimony of individuals. When I don't bring up Gladio B then, will you again ask me the same question?

If you had taken the time, in the last two years plus, to learn more about Gladio Plan B, you wouldn't be asking this ignorant question.

So, **** you and your condescending, holier than thou attitude, Jon. I won't bother you and your self-centered feedback loop anymore.

Thank...

You. ;)

Correction

Sorry to bother you again, Jon, but I need to correct my statement about Gladio Plan B having been divulged, in detail, for over two years.

In fact, the information (specifically grouped into the named program) has been out there for over three years:

http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-422-sibel-edmonds/

Corbett interviews Edmonds about
Gladio Plan B 12/2/2011

Back then, I dubbed the interview "Talkin Turkey". That's what I wrote on the dozens of CDs I made and passed out. The interview does mention "Gladio Plan B", but the importance of Turkey in all.of this was a real revelation for me at the time.

It's a pretty good interview to start with, as Sibel's testimony is a bit more concise than in the six-part series they did later. She covers The Gulen Movement, as well as the various illicit funding sources for this secretive, underhanded implementation of the vision eventually penned by PNAC in "Rebuilding America's Defenses".

My very last comment will be to say that our conversation would have been much easier, if you would have just admitted from the start that you hadn't yet reviewed the testimony Sibel provided in the Gladio Plan B interviews, or The Lone Gladio, and that's why you weren't including it in your discussios, and possibly why Sibel wouldn't come on your show yet.

What you did, instead, was condescending and evasive. I'll apologize for being so blunt, but, for me, this is all driven from my desire to see the info disseminated. Because it's so important. I never had anything against you personally and have never, before recently, made any comments that would put you in a negative light. I was aware of the rift you went through with those who wanted you to talk about CD, and I probably defended you more than once for your focus.

Gladio Plan B, though, should be right down your alley and I still hope that you will take the time to examine Sibel's testimony, her novel, and the various analysis interviews which have been conducted since the release of TLG. I hope your frustrations with my comments won't be a hurdle in that respect. I do promise to stop bugging you, with precisely that hope in mind.

Thank you and goodbye.

Apology for swearing

I wanted to edit out my second to the last sentence and replace it with an apology for swearing, which I've been reminded is against the rules of engagement. I'm sorry I swore, but the edit button is missing from that comment for me, so this apology will have to do.

whining

I think it's important and so far don't understand why you won't talk about it, unless you're saying you don't yet consider it valid info. That's what it sounds like.

Zica: Maybe start your own show?

Why are your wasting your time and up in a lather all day/night about what Jon Gold is talking about? If it is that important to your understanding of 9/11, start your own show and you can talk about what you want all day long. That's what Jon did. It would be more helpful than this banter. There's more than one door that leads to the truth and you are not the only person with the keys. Let's see how serious you really are about it, start your own show. It's free and maybe you can relax.

Novel Question - 》

Lemme guess, rugged individualist?

Would you be more comfortable in a world without criticism?

Why don't you write your own comment, instead of criticizing mine?

Rinse and repeat.

Novel Question - 》

Are you interested in the answer or just trying to defend?

Seriously though

I mentioned in my comment to Jon that, in an effort to spread awareness about Gladio Plan B, especially after The Lone Gladio was released, I made a conscious decision to attempt to inform and, if necessary, challenge existing alt-media producers to learn about and spread the word about the concept presented in such an accessible way in Sibel's new novel and in such a detailed, factual way in her interview series with Corbett, not to mention some of the excellent book reviews done by Pearse Redmond, Tom Secker, Guillermo Jimenez, and James Corbett. There are many really well done explanations to reference.

I have seen mixed results, but overall I think my time spent has been worth it. And, by far, the vast majority has not been spent on Jon Gold. His reaction was surprising to me, but I think I now finally understand it enough to move on.