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"There's a shadow on the faces of the men who send the guns to the wars that are fought in places where their business interest runs."

yeah, he was one of the targets of the Cheney cabals anthrax letters. he knows full well that 9/11 was an inside job. hes not a stupid man, which is why they sent him the anthrax in the first place. Leahy better watch himself if he keeps up this talk, he might end up like Wellstone. we should all contact Leahy and encourage him to keep it up, not sit here and take shots at him.

Definitely a LIHOP comment.. Right now, I'm leaning that way, too. Especially after watching the Dateline show with five air traffic controllers from Boston Logan recounting what they experienced on 9/11.

In a court of law, their testimony would trump about anyone's. Air traffic controller Pete Zeluski's claim that he heard Middle Eastern voices of terror coming from Flight 11 was not disputed by any of the others who were around him.

Now maybe Zeluski was tricked by more sophisticated equipment, or maybe the five air traffic controllers were bought out and are lying, but right now, if we stand with what the air traffic controllers said, we got to go with LIHOP.

In which case we should run with Leahy's comment.

no matter how you put it. Besides, even if one dismissed the evident demolitions of the twin towers, there's still WTC7.

There is no way to reconcile "incompetence-LIHOP" with that.

This "let's settle for LIHOP" line is pretty sick. It basically means let's make sure people keep thinking that we're under attack from shadowy Muslims linked to "al Qaeda". It means we really need the "Patriot Act" because there are evil terrists out to get us.

I would like to know how any 9/11 Truther could not think that the main suspect in 9/11 is Larry Silverstein. He owned three buildings that were demolished that day, not by planes hijacked by Arab Muslims, but by explosives set by... I want to know who set the explosives that brought those buildings down on the rescue workers. It wasn't alk Qaeda. It wasn't Pakistan. Larry Silverstein knows who did it. How has that evil creature gotten away with destroying his property, murdering thousands, and collecting billions in insurance to boot?

Since there is no evidence for hijackings having taken place, except a smattering of recordings no more credible than recordings of Osama taking credit for 9/11, the real focus of 9/11 truth has to be on the illegal demolition of WTC 1, 2, and 7, and the destruction of evidence in building 7, and the theft of property (gold, etc.) from the complex.

We have not come this far to settle for some more face saving BS like LIHOP. 9/11 was a fraud from beginning to end. And the end is coming soon.

i say it regularly on this site. LIHOP protects those that pull the strings of the puppets. LIHOP stops at the White House and doesnt go any further. and i totally agree with your point about the "evil scary muslims". LIHOP shows that the obviously contrived and farcical "war on terror" is still legitimate. it is not. exposing 9/11, to me, is about more than exposing the crime itself but exposing the "war on terror" for the fraud that it is. does terrorism exist? yes. does it warrant 3 wars and counting? hell no. the irrational fear must stop, and MIHOP will show the source of the fear to be a massive lie. LIHOP preserves that fear, while MIHOP shatters that fear and turns it into anger. anger that will be directed at finding out EVERYTHING and EVERYONE involved in 9/11. that said, we must still support anyone who at least shows that they are moving in the right direction. we must support Leahy and show him we are watching.

Well put.
LIHOP preserves the "Orwellian" rule by fear, where we have to invest all our energy and money into "protection" from some elusive enemy, an enemy that can destroy all or parts of major cities without warning. When the truth is, terrorism never got that dangerous, they only bombed embassies abroad and stuff, but they can't singlehandedly level the whole WTC complex. And these terrorists are also not on a "blind rage" to attack western countries, but have a political motive, and therefore target some things specifically, like the military bases abroad, Israel, the Iraqi occupation etc.

The old statements from real Osama even sound less hostile than Bush now. He spoke of Americans electing a "patriotic government" - which is what we don't have right now.

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Citizens power of arrest?

exactly. i was talking with someone this weekend that says'"they didnt make it happen, they just knew it was coming and did nothing to stop it". i then naturally asked them how al qaeda smuggled bombs into WTC7(which of course holds the DoD,FBI,CIA etc). no answer as usual. people just dont want to accept that 3000 lives are expendable to many in our leadership. facts and evidence be damned, they just dont want to believe its possible. the crime and the cover-up both seem too "X-Files" for some. reality is stranger than fiction.........

Perfectly put.

LIHOP doesn't explain WTC7.

For starters.

Buildings don't commit suicide.

that greed, imo the main motive for WTC7's levelling, provided the fatal blow to any and all official narratives.

How do you explain the eye-witness account of Pete Zeluski, the very first guy to find something going amiss on 9/11. He's the air traffic controller in Boston who was monitoring Flight 11, when it first went off course. His account, as seen on Dateline, tells us that he heard Middleeastern voices on that plane telling people not to do anything stupid. He said those voices sounded like the voices of terror.

In a court of law, his testimony blows MIHOP to pieces, at least in regard to Flight 11.

Has anyone thought about a combination of LIHOP/MIHOP? In other words, let's say Cheney and co. saw that Saddam and Al Qaeda were preparing an attack. They let it proceed, but they then enhanced it to be even more successful to fit their purposes, such as getting rid of WTC7 and blowing up the Budget Office at the Pentagon which had all the records of the missing $2.3 trillion.

I mean, Cheney and Bush had plenty of time to know what was coming, and frankly if they just LIHOP, it wouldnt have been nearly as successful an attack.

So what I'm suggesting is that Muslim extremists were planning to carry this out, and little did they know they were going to be used in a bigger plan of evil.

This would require a combination of LIHOP and MIHOP.

im sorry, i dont wanna bash you too bad, so i"ll let you clarify first. you just said Saddam and Al Qaeda were behind 9/11? are you serious? no wonder you are trying to push LIHOP.......