Tucker's Challenge - Help Educate Tucker Carlson About 9/11

Tucker's Challenge
This in reference to last night's show and his followup article today.

Tucker Carlson is either as silly as his bow tie would indicate, or he's looking for a way to expose the truth behind 9/11. Today he posted "9/11 Theorist Clearly Hits A Nerve," regarding public response to his Monday night show with BYU Professor, Steven Jones.

Carlson first insinuates Jones is "insane," then accuses him of being unable to articulate his hypothesis, calling him "an epically bad guest." Apparently, Jones was expected to clearly articulate the hypothesis presented in a 26-page scientific paper in six minutes, minus Carlson's repeated interruptions promoting the official line. (Let's also not forget that 'The Situation' refused to show footage of the WTC7 collapse, which would have essentially made the case despite Carlson's best attempts to prevent Jones from doing so.)

"We've never had an e-mail response like the one we got," Carlson says, "...the overwhelming majority wrote to thank me for my 'courage' in putting him on, and to complain that we didn't give him more time to explain the conspiracy. In other words, a lot of people seem to think it's possible that the U.S. government had a hand in bringing down the World Trade Center buildings."

No kidding?

Carlson then tones down his rant from what he originally said on the show last night, (video here) when he moves into his attack on 9/11 skeptics. "If you really...even considered it a possibility - how could you continue to live here? You couldn't. You'd leave the United States on the next available flight and not come back. You'd have no choice."

I guess he missed Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel's comments yesterday: "To question your government is not unpatriotic – to not question your government is unpatriotic. America owes its men and women in uniform a policy worthy of their sacrifices." Or perhaps he slept through the history class lessons about true patriots who have fought for their country by exposing and demanding accountability for traitorous acts.

The significance of this little column, in addition to recognizing on mainstream television that there are a LOT of Americans who "connect" with Jones in demanding 9/11 truth, however, is saved for the last paragraph:

"So if evidence ever does arise that the government lied substantially about what happened on September 11th, we'll be on it immediately. I promise."

Now there is a challenge we can accept! I know, firsthand, the level of true patriotism and commitment among the 9/11 truth community, and I'm willing to make a promise, too: Mr. Carlson is about to receive more evidence than he ever even imagined might exist. Help me hold him to that promise...

Oh, no, I would never suggest you subject yourself to the pain of enduring mainstream "news" programming on a regular basis by watching 'The Situation.' But I can assure you, and Tucker, that it will be monitored, and we'll let you know whether he keeps his promise!

In the meantime, as he requests at the end of his column, "Keep those e-mails coming to Tucker@msnbc.com."

Also, Jon Gold has pointed out that you may reach the secretary of 'The Situation' by calling 201-583-5000 and asking for 'The Situation'.

I've read that site and

I've read that site and found them very dishonest. For starts the alive hijackers claim was debunked years ago.

Another dishonest aspect of thatwebsite is the claims of "small fires" on building 7.
Shown here on your site.

Yet from this link you can clearly see that they are incorrect.

The truth movement is anything but.
They aren't being honest with you.

for those interested.. i did

for those interested.. i did a search of those that visited today with 'university' in their IP domain names.. i can only list 100 in any given search, so here are the top 100 that visited today.

1. University of South Dakota.
2. University of Turku
3. Indiana University.
4. United Arab Emirates University
5. University of Texas at Austin.
6. University of Phoenix.
7. Widener University.
8. University of South Dakota.
9. University of South Dakota.
10. Santa Clara University.
11. Kent State University.
12. Harvard University.
13. University of Winnipeg.
14. Ohio State University.
15. University of Minnesota Computer ...
16. Finnish University Network
17. Clemson University.
18. Finnish University Network
19. University Ethernet network
20. Rutgers University.
21. University of Nottingham
22. The University Of Texas M.D. Ande...
23. Indiana University of Pennsylvania.
24. University of Pittsburgh.
25. Southwest Texas State University.
26. University of Calgary.
27. University of Alberta.
28. Helsinki University of Technology
29. Colorado State University.
30. San Francisco State University.
31. University of North Carolina.
32. University of California, San Diego.
33. California State University Network.
34. University of Victoria.
35. State University of New York at B...
36. University of Strathclyde
37. University of Maine System.
38. Temple University.
39. Colorado State University.
40. University of California, Irvine.
41. University of Kentucky.
42. University of Texas.
43. Northern Arizona University.
44. Iowa State University.
45. University of Nebraska-Lincoln.
46. University of Massachusetts at Bo...
47. University of Southwestern Louisi...
48. State University of New York at B...
49. University of North Carolina.
50. University of Southwestern Louisi...
51. Prairie View A&M University.
52. Clark University.
53. University of North Carolina at C...
54. Stanford University.
55. University of Pittsburgh.
56. University of Hawaii.
57. Clemson University.
58. University of Rhode Island.
59. Illinois Wesleyan University.
60. Lehigh University.
61. Kansas State University.
62. Creighton University.
63. University of Pittsburgh.
64. Louisiana State University.
65. University of Colorado.
66. Brock University.
67. Northwestern University.
68. University of Oregon.
69. University of Arizona.
70. Georgia State University.
71. Lehigh University.
72. Southwest Texas State University.
73. Minnesota State University System.
74. University of Wisconsin-Madison.
75. Northeastern University.
76. University of Waterloo.
77. University of Texas at Austin.
78. University of Virginia.
79. University of Denver.
80. University of Washington.
81. Minnesota State University System.
82. New Mexico State University.
83. Florida State University.
84. Duke University.
85. University Twente
86. McMaster University.
87. Ohio State University.
88. University of Minnesota Computer ...
89. California State University, Nort...
90. University of Colorado, Denver.
91. Johns Hopkins University.
92. Carleton University.
93. New Mexico State University.
94. York University.
95. St Mary's University.
96. University of Michigan.
97. University of Pennsylvania.
98. Ohio University.
99. California State University at Fr...
100. Clark University.

some may be listed twice if they have multiple domains.. i invite all the students and professors that visit to email me personally if you need help nailing down what scientific work has been done and discussed by other professors and scientists.

Very cool. I'm writing

Very cool. I'm writing Tucker now.

Tucker, I have decided


I have decided to take you up on your challenge. This will be very quick because it's really not that hard to understand, and you seem to be a reasonably intelligent person. Sibel Edmonds, and ex-FBI Translator turned "Whistleblower" is now the most "gagged" person in American History. Sibel Edmonds was once quoted as saying, "once this issue gets to be...investigated, you will be seeing certain [American] people that we know from this country standing trial; and they will be prosecuted criminally." Sibel Edmonds was also quoted as saying, "There is direct evidence involving no more than ten American names that I recognized".

I'd sure like to know what those names are, wouldn't you?

Jon Gold
911Truth.org Steering Committee

I don't know if our

I don't know if our government was complicit in 9/11. I just know that important unanswered questions remain. For an event of this magnitude, the fact that they haven't been addressed adequately is scandal enought. I want to seen a new independent inquiry.

You said (I recall) that if someone thinks the government was involved in 9/11 and lied about it and expresses that opinion, they should leave the country. While I do not know your mind, this does sound like something a good Fascist would say, and I hope you reconsider, and keep an open mind.

Thank you for having Prof. Jones on your program. I have never given much weight to the demolition stories. I thought there were enough hard questions already. More recently, I'm even opening my ears to the demolition people.

Please take a look at what some of the Jersey Girls have said about the matter. That's who I want our country to help.

"If you really...even

"If you really...even considered it a possibility - how could you continue to live here? You couldn't. You'd leave the United States on the next available flight and not come back. You'd have no choice."

You know it's funny, does anyone else think it's possible he's trying to get us to believe the opposite of what he's said. Sort of like, beneath all this he's saying wake up you idiots and get the hell out now before it's too late?

Or perhaps by saying 'epically bad guest' he meant THE BEST guest he's ever had?

Maybe I'm too optimistic about this.

Just a tad.

Just a tad.

Here's my letter: Dear Mr.

Here's my letter:

Dear Mr. Carlson--

Well, thanks for having on Mr. Jones to talk about the mysterious collapses of WTC1, 2 and 7.

In any case, where to start regarding government involvement in 9/11? There are so many pieces of evidence it is a bit overwhelming. I should point out that the media has reported all these individual pieces of evidence but has been strangely lackadaisical about putting it all together and in questioning the Bush administration about 9/11. Much of the evidence has been put together in various excellent books, such as:

"The New Pearl Harbor, Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11" by David Ray Griffin
"The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions And Distortions" by David Ray Griffin
"9/11 Synthetic Terror, Made in USA" by Webster G. Tarpley
"Crossing the Rubicon" by Michael C. Ruppert
"The Terror Timeline" by Paul Thompson
"Welcome to Terrorland" by Daniel Hopsicker

You might consider having these authors on your show some time.

So, evidence for government involvement in 9/11:

1) Condoleeza Rice lying about not imagining terrorists using airplanes as missiles. This was a clear lie and a cover up, because the military ran multiple drills just on this premise before 9/11. As National Security Advisor, Rice had to know about these drills.
2) NORAD was running a live-fly hijacking drill on 9/11! This is too much of a coincidence for me, yet the media has been strangely silent about it.
3) The lack of air defenses around Washington DC when hijacked aircraft were roaming the northeast part of the US. This is criminal.
4) The lack of reaction when Bush heard the second WTC tower was hit when he was in the Florida classroom. He said NOTHING and Card just walked out. Makes no sense.
5) Why didn't Secret Service agents rush Bush out of the classroom when they knew the country was under attack. Again, this makes no sense!
6) there were many many many forewarnings of a terrorist attack picked up by the government, yet no one did anything. That is not incompetence, that is criminal.
7) General Ahmed of the Pakistani ISI wired money to Mohamed Atta before 9/11. The ISI is closely linked to the CIA, and this smells bad.
8) Two hijackers lived with an FBI informant in San Diego.
9) FBI agent Robert Wright resigned from the FBI because he said the agency refused to heed warnings of the attacks.
10) Former government counsel David Schippers said FBI agents gave him specific details of the 9/11 attacks before they happened.
11) There is the strange lack of urgency of getting Osama bin Laden, the supposed perpetrator of 9/11.
12) The evidence that the WTC towers were blown up-- NYFD reported bombs going off, the local media reported bombs going off, but it has all been covered up-- and YOU KNOW IT. The science shows the towers were demolished.
13) Hijackers took over four planes armed only with plastic knives and box-cutters, yet not one plane gave a hijack signal. How? But the government has shown no interest in this.
14) Who were the hijackers? Many of them were using fake ID. But the government has shown no interest in this.

Feel free to contact me if you would like any more evidence. Please investigate these leads.

Like many people, I am depressed and saddened to think that the government could allow or even carry out something like 9/11. But nonetheless, the evidence is overwhelming once you start looking at it.

The failure here is BIPARTISAN. I am not blaming 9/11 on Bush, although he has facilitated the cover-up.


If the media could start to unravel these horrible issues regarding 9/11, many many many citizens would have their faith in government restored.

Thank you for your time,


tucker carlson has got to be

tucker carlson has got to be retarded. he says, "So if evidence ever does arise that the government lied substantially about what happened on September 11th, we'll be on it immediately. I promise"

as if there is no evidence that should be reported... what a ignorant dumbass


EXCELLENT letter "Spooked"...

Excellent sarcasm Jon ;)

Excellent sarcasm Jon ;) (regarding my post...that my dog ...posted.)

heh... If you like

heh... If you like sarcasm... you should come to my board... :)

Having a great conversation

Having a great conversation about this here.

I sent him my Smoking Guns

I sent him my
Smoking Guns
page. That should be enough to convince him. :-P



This is THRILLING For me...

This is THRILLING For me...


I'm not sure who posted Alex

I'm not sure who posted Alex Jones' film earlier regarding the police state but, I've actually got a story of my own.

Firstly take the time to look into a movement called critical mass.

Basically large gatherings of cyclists having fun and expressing themselves, in a nut shell.

Anyone's thoughts on the matter are greatly welcomed.

Anyway a great complement to Alex Jones' film would be Still We Ride


Critical Mass has grown to be something quite profound in the city of New York and as the video shows, unjustified arrests are abundant and the NYPD really comes down hard.

In the southwest, critical mass is still small but, growing. I know in San Francisco the group can get in the thousands. Anyway recently in a local critical mass I attended, we had about twenty riders. TWENTY!

Guess what? We had a police helicopter escort the whole ride.

This little debacle is nothing to what I've experienced in the downtown LA critical mass ride, but I thought I'd share. This stuff is happening and I'm really afraid that our peaceful means are not working well enough.

10. Santa Clara

10. Santa Clara University...

that was me.

pretty amazing how many hits/posts you seem to be getting lately! way to go, bro!

lies are defended, truth needs nothing but attention.

updated suggestion re header

updated suggestion re header buttons:

You have a lot of "real estate" in your header on the LHS. Instead of another small button, for now (while the story is "hot") why not create a big button re Steven Jones (about 147 px square)?

dz: John Rappaport of

dz: John Rappaport of nomorefakenews.com posted his thoughts on Steven Jones & Tucker.


Scroll down for latest update.


Hurry up, it's time. Get it in. Say it quickly. I don't understand what you're talking about, but I guess it's interesting. We don't have the footage, just a still photo. Don't want to offend anyone. Why did I have you on? Let's forget this ever happened. What am I going to say when my Republican friends dump all over me for doing this interview?

In his earpiece, Carlson gets a blast from his producer: "Jesus H Christ! The emails are pouring in! Get this dude off the air, Tucker!"

The best in American journalism.


it may be worth including in

it may be worth including in your emails the 'conspiracy theories' that they haven't minded boasting all over the news.

like WMD in iraq, links between 9/11 and iraq, etc.

they push tons of their own conspiracy theories, so long as they benefit the government..



Why does this site promote

Why does this site promote so much false information like. Just one example of many? Why are you still promoting the idea of small limited damage and fires on building 7? Why don't you show the other side of the building?

Much of these claims can be refuting with some simple googling. Are you guys also promoting silly ideas of alive hijackers also?



911blogger.com is INDISPENSABLE

people, don't forget to watch





Scott, there are people who


there are people who were called hijackers who were not involved and are still alive.. why dont you do a simple google search?

here is a quick sample:

To Scott. WTC7 isnt just

To Scott. WTC7 isnt just a smoking gun. It is ABSOLUTE PROOF that 9/11 was an inside job. I defy ANYONE to show me how that building came down by fire alone. It was a text book controlled demolition. I can assure you Osama and his boys didn't sneak in and place the demolition charges. The job was done by professionals. Why do you think Carlson wouldn't show the film on his show? Please prove me wrong Scott.

No one claims it came down

No one claims it came down by fire alone. Certainly not anyone I know.
In fact it came down by the large damage from the falling debris hitting the tower, combined by the fires within the building.

Ok here's a question for you..why do you think your websites fail to show the information I showed in the above link that proves many of their claims incorrect?

Here's another I'm sure you've heard of Kevin Ryan right? Well he had nothing to do with certifiing the steel of UL labs. He worked for a sub group testing water.

Or how about Silverstein and other wild claims?


Again, your being lied to here. But it not what you think

Scott wrote: Why don't you

Scott wrote: Why don't you show the other side of the building?

If you're referring to the South facade of Building 7, there are no pictures available. It's alleged that there was 25-percent of the building's depth scooped out of the South facade from falling debris, however, there have never been any photos produced by the people (NIST) that have made those allegations. I'm not saying that it's not true, but they haven't produced photographic evidence to support their claims.

There is a photo of the Bankers Trust building that shows damage to it from falling debris, however, it did not collapse from this damage. It remained standing:

The only photos available of damage to WTC7 are of the SW corner:



And a photo of some minimal rooftop damage:


And here is a picture of what looks like minimal fires coming from the North face of WTC7:


Scott, if you have a photo of damage to the South facade of Building 7, please post it.

Also, Scott, were you aware that rescue workers were told to evacuate the area around Building 7, because it was going to be brought down?

From an interview with rescue worker, Indira Singh:

Radio host Bonnie Falkner: How long did you work as an emergency medical technician and exactly what is it that you were doing (at ground zero)?

Indira Singh: ...when I got there we were setting up triage sites (at ground zero), close, very close to the area. The triage site that I was setting up was behind, well, to the east of Building 7 where Building 7 came down...
...we were setting up triages as close to the pile as possibleÂ… so what we were doing was setting up different kinds of stationsÂ… IV stations, cardiac stations, wound stations, burn stations ...just trying to have an organized space. What happened with that particular triage site is that pretty soon afternoon, after mid-day on 9/11 we had to evacuate that because they told us Building 7 was coming down... I do believe that they brought Building 7 down... By noon or one o'clock they told us we had to move from that triage site up to Pace University a little further away because Building 7 was going to come down or being brought down.

Bonnie Falkner: Did they actually use the word "brought" down and who was it that was telling you this?

Indira Singh: The fire department... the fire department and they did use the word "we're going to have to bring it down."

The entire interview can be listened to at the link below. The excerpts from above can be found approximately 10 minutes into the interview.

Guns & Butter Radio interview w/ Indira Singh hosted by Bonnie Falkner - April 27th 2005:

And Scott, are you aware of what award winning photographer, Tom Franklin has stated about WTC7 (Franklin is the photographer who snapped the photo of the firemen raising the flag at Ground Zero)? He was allowed to photograph Ground Zero on 9-11 before WTC7 fell down. Here's what he said about it:

Much of what happened to me on September 11 is a blur, but this moment I clearly remember: It was 4:45 p.m., and all the firemen and rescue workers were evacuating Ground Zero after word came that a third building -- WTC 7 -- was ready to fall. I had only a few frames left, and an entire day's worth of pictures to develop, so I prepared to head back to New Jersey.

Link to article:

Ready to fall?!

Building 7 fell at approximately 5:20pm. on 9-11. Are we supposed to believe that when Tom Franklin was told at 4:45pm that Building 7 "was ready to fall" that it was just a lucky guess by the people who told him that???

Scott, are you aware of what the owner of building 7 stated in a PBS documentary:

Larry Silvertein: "I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

Larry Silverstein, commenting on the demolition of Building 7 in the PBS documentary "America Rebuilds", which aired in September of 2002

Video: http://www.911blogger.com/files/video/wtc7_pbs.WMV
Audio: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/PULLIT.mp3

Continued: In the same


In the same documentary, America Rebuilds, a clean up worker at ground zero uses the term "pull" when preparing for the demolition of Building 6 weeks later:

"... we're getting ready to pull

Audio: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/pull-it2.mp3

And here are some videos of Building 7 falling down that MSNBC apparently doesn't think you or the people of the United States should see:

WTC 7 "Collapse" videos:

And Scott, were you aware of some of the statements from witnesses who said they heard explosions at the WTC on 9-11? FYI, none of these statements were included in the 9/11 cOmmissions final report:


Assistant Fire Commissioner: "I thought . . . before . . . No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes. . . . I . . . saw a flash flash flash . . . [at] the lower level of the building. You know like when they . . . blow up a building. . . ?”


# NYC firefighter: “It actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit. . . [W]e originally had thought there was like an internal detonation, explosives, because it went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down.”

Link to quote:

# From The San Francisco Chronicle / SFGate.com:

Captain of Emergency Medical Services: "somewhere around the middle of the world trade center there was this orange and red flash coming out ... initially it was just one flash then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode ... and with each popping sound it was initially an orange and then red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides ... as far as could see these popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger going both up and down and then all around the building"

Link to quote:

# "When we got to about 50 feet from the South Tower, we heard the most eerie sound that you would ever hear. A high-pitched noise and a popping noise made everyone stop. We all looked up. At the point, it all let go...
...There was an explosion and the whole top leaned toward us and started coming down. I stood there for a second in total awe, and then said, "What the F###?" I honestly thought it was Hollywood."

- Eye-witness Jeff Birnbaum, president of Broadway Electrical Supply Co., New York

Link to quote:

# Member of the FDNY:
"We were trying to get some of the people out, but then there was secondary explosions and then subsequent collapses."

Video: http://www.911blimp.net/videos/FDNY-explosions.mov

# Firefighter:
"As we were getting our gear on and making our way to the stairway, there was a heavy duty explosion."

Video: http://terrorize.dk/911/witnesses/heavy.duty.explosion.wmv

# Firemen recall "detonations" in South Tower:

fireman2: We made it outside, we made it about a block.
fireman1: We made it at least 2 blocks.
fireman2: 2 blocks.
fireman1: and we started runnin'
fireman2: poch-poch-poch-poch-poch-poch-poch
fireman1: Floor by floor it started poppin' out ..
fireman2: It was as if as if they had detonated, det..
fireman1: yea detonated yea
fireman2: as if they had planned to take down a building,
boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom ...
fireman1: All the way down, I was watchin it, and runnin'

Video: http://911research.com/wtc/evidence/videos/docs/discussion_in_firehouse.mpg

# September 12, 2001, New York City, People.com

Louie Cacchioli, 51, is a firefighter assigned to Engine 47 in Harlem.

We were the first ones in the second tower after the plane struck. I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there was bombs set in the building....

Link to article:

# NBC Reporter, Pat Dawson:
[Albert Turi the Chief of Safety for the New York Fire Department] received word of the possibility of a secondary device, that is another bomb going off. He tried to get his men out as quickly as he could, but he said there was another explosion which took place, and then an hour after the first hit, the first crash that took place, he said there was another explosion that took place in one of the towers here, so obviously according to his theory he thinks that there were actually devices that were planted in the building. One of the secondary devices he thinks that took place after the initial impact he thinks may have been on the plane that crashed into one of the towers. The second device, he thinks, he speculates, was probably planted in the building.“

Video: http://terrorize.dk/911/witnesses/911.wtc.reporter.1.wmv

# MSNBC Reporter, Rick Sanchez:
"Police have found what they believe to be a suspicious device and they fear that it may lead to another explosion...I spoke with some police officials moments ago, Chris, and they told me they have reason to believe that one of the explosion at the WTC besides the ones made with the planes, may have been caused by a van that was parked on the building that may have had an explosive device in it."

Video: http://www.terrorize.dk/911/comments/911.wtc.police.found.explosives.wmv

# War Corespondent, Jack Kelley:
"Apparently what appears to happen was that at the same time two planes hit the building that there... that the FBI most likely thinks that there was a car or truck packed with explosives underneath the buildings which also exploded at the same time..."

Video: http://www.terrorize.dk/911/comments/911.wtc.truck.bombs.fbi.jack.kelley.rm

# MSNBC Reporter, Ann Thompson:
"At 10:30 I tried to leave the building, but as I got outside I heard a second explosion and another rumble and more smoke and more dust. I ran inside the building and the chandelier shook and again black smoke filled the air. Within another five minutes we were covered again with more soot and more dust. And then a fire marshal came in and said we had to leave, because if there was a third explosion this building might not last.."

Video: http://www.terrorize.dk/911/witnesses/911.wtc.ann.thompson.intermediate....

# Street Reporter:
"45 minutes into the taping we were doing, there was an explosion. It was way up where the fire was and the whole building at that point bellied out in flames and everybody ran."

Video: http://terrorize.dk/911/witnesses/911.wtc.reporter.2.wmv

# Witness / 9-11 survivor:
"I was about five blocks away when I heard explosions... three thuds and turned around to see the building that we just got out of... tip over and fall in on itself."

Video: http://terrorize.dk/911/witnesses/911.wtc.witness.1.wmv

# Witness / 9-11 survivor:
"...and then all of a sudden it started like... it sounded like gunfire... you know, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang and then all of a sudden three big explosions."

Video: http://terrorize.dk/911/witnesses/911.wtc.witness.2.wmv

# Terror in the City, September 12 , 2001, Notes from Robert Ivy, FAIA Editor-in-chief

...we felt a rumble like faraway thunder and turned. The impossible was happening. The south tower of the World Trade Center shook, and in what resembled an elemental act, fell to earth in a mighty shout. The entire dissolution, the changeover from solid elements to ash, took only seconds, and it was gone...

Link to article:

# An Eye-Witness Account of the World Trade Center Attacks
from Neil deGrasse Tyson

The following is the text from an email Neil deGrasse Tyson sent to his family and friends on 12 September 2001. Neil witnessed the attacks on the twin towers from his apartment only six blocks from the World Trade Center. He is Director of the Hayden Planetarium of the American Museum of Natural History, which is located in New York City. Neil also serves as The Planetary Society's Vice President...

From: Neil deGrasse Tyson
Sent: 10AM, Wednesday, 12 September 2001
Subject: The Horror, The Horror

...4) As more and more and more and more and more emergency vehicles descended on the World Trade Center, I hear a second explosion in WTC 2, then a loud, low-frequency rumble that precipitates the unthinkable -- a collapse of all the floors above the point of explosion. First the top surface, containing the helipad, tips sideways in full view. Then the upper floors fall straight down in a demolition-style implosion, taking all lower floors with it, even those below the point of the explosion...

...6) I decide it's time to get my daughter, who was taken by the parents of a friend of hers to a small office building, six blocks farther from the WTC than my apartment. As I dress for survival: boots, flashlight, wet towels, swimming goggles, bicycle helmet, gloves, I hear another explosion followed by a now all-too familiar rumble that signaled the collapse of WTC 1, the first of the two towers to have been hit. I saw the iconic antenna on this building descend straight down in an implosion twinning the first...

Link to Neil deGrasse Tyson's email:

# Tuesday, 11 September, 2001, Eyewitnesses tell of horror, BBC News

"...I saw everything from my balcony in Soho. The first plane tried to veer off the t

Continued: "...I saw


"...I saw everything from my balcony in Soho. The first plane tried to veer off the tower but slammed straight into it, followed by the second plane," Nadine Keller of New York City wrote in an e-mail to BBC News Online.

"There was smoke everywhere. I heard the bomb and saw both buildings crumble like biscuits," Ms Keller said.

The BBC received more than 1,300 e-mails from witnesses and other concerned readers within the first few hours after the attack.

Link to article:

# 9/11 Survivor Describes Multiple Explosions

"There were explosions going off everywhere. I was convinced that there were bombs planted all over the place and someone was sitting at a control panel pushing detonator buttons. I was afraid to go down Church Street toward Broadway, but I had to do it. I ended up on Vesey Street. There was another explosion. And another. I didn't know where to run."

Source: "Teresa Veliz: A Prayer to Die Quickly and Painlessly," in September 11: An Oral History by Dean E. Murphy (Doubleday, 2002), pp 9-15. http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/veliz-bombs.htm

# 9/11 hero, William Rodriguez, who was the last person out of the north tower, states that there was a massive explosion in the North Tower BEFORE the plane hit:

"When I heard the sound of the explosion, the floor beneath my feet vibrated, the walls started cracking and it everything started shaking

"Seconds after the first massive explosion below in the basement still rattled the floor, I hear another explosion from way above... Although I was unaware at the time, this was the airplane hitting the tower, it occurred moments after the first explosion.

"I know there were explosives placed below the trade center.

"I have tried to tell my story to everybody, but nobody wants to listen. It is very strange what is going on here in supposedly the most democratic country in the world. In my home country of Puerto Rico and all the other Latin American countries, I have been allowed to tell my story uncensored. But here, I canÂ’t even say a word.

"I met with the 9/11 Commission behind closed doors and they essentially discounted everything I said regarding the use of explosives to bring down the north tower.

"And I contacted NIST previously four times without a response. Finally, this week I asked them before they came up with their conclusion that jet fuel brought down the towers, if they ever considered my statements or the statements of any of the other survivors who heard the explosions. They just stared at me with blank faces and didnÂ’t have any answers."

Link to quotes:

“Amazing, incredible pick your word. For the third time today, it’s reminiscent of those pictures we’ve all seen too much on television before, where a building was deliberately destroyed by well placed dynamite to knock it down.”

- CBS News anchor, Dan Rather, commenting on the collapse of Building 7, September 11, 2001 at approx 5:20pm EST.

Video: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/wtc-7_cbs_demolition.mpg

And here are what some experts have said about the WTC buildings:

# "If you've seen many of the managed demolitions where they implode a building and they cause it to essentially to fall vertically because they cause all of the vertical columns to fail simultaneously, that's exactly what it looked like and that's what happened"

- Matthys Levy, Structural Engineer and co author of Why buildings Fall Down

Video: http://www.freepressinternational.com/discovery.html

# Why WTC Steel Towers Collapsed at One Blow
September 20, 2001

Professor Shi Yongjiu, director of civil engineering department of Qinghua University and an expert on steel structure, guesses that the lower part of the WTC twin towers may got seriously damaged.

According to steel structure's mechanical nature, the towers shouldn't collapse as late as an hour later after the planes slammed into. What's more, it should be in a way to topple over gradually instead of crashing down as seen in videotapes. It looks more like a directional blast in doing the job of destruction, so he feels that huge damages must have been done at the lower part of the towers.

Link to article:

# Explosives Planted in Towers, New Mexico Tech Expert Says
Albuquerque Journal, September, 2001

"My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the
airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were some
explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the
towers to collapse

"It would be difficult for
something from the plane to trigger an event like that

"It could have been a relatively small
amount of explosives placed in strategic points

- Van Romero, Vice President for Research and Economic Development at New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology and a major authority on the effects of explosions on buildings (Romero has since retracted his statement, saying "Certainly the fire is what caused the building to fail.").

Original Link to quote

Archived link of Romero's quote:

New Mexico Tech Explosives Expert 'Flip-Flops' On WTC Controlled Demo Theory; Refuses To Explain Why

Taking a Closer Look: Hard Science and the Collapse of the World Trade Center
by David Heller
BS: Physics Bard College
MA: S. F. Inst. Architecture

Architect and Builder

# The fact that WTC-7 fell down symmetrically, onto its own footprint very neatly, even though fires were just observed on one side of the building. A symmetrical collapse, as observed, requires the simultaneous "pulling" of support beams. By my count, there were 24 core columns and 57 perimeter columns in WTC-7. Heat transport considerations for steel beams heated by fire suggest that failure of even a few columns at the same time is very small. Adding in the Second Law of Thermodynamics ("law of increasing entropy") leads to the conclusion that the likelihood of near-symmetrical collapse of the building due to fires (the "government" theory) -- requiring as it does near-simultaneous failure of many support columns -- is infinitesimal. Yet near-symmetrical collapse of WTC-7 was observed.

"I have performed other analyses regarding the WTC collapses on 9-11-01 which may be of interest --let me know if you're interested. The matter is highly interesting to me as a physicist -- and as a citizen of the United States. I conclude that the evidence for pre-positioned explosives in WTC 7 (also in towers 1 and 2) is truly compelling."

- Steven E. Jones, Professor of Physics/BYU, in an email sent to his colleagues concerning the World Trade Center collapses

Scott, what do you think about all of these witness statements?

Scott, if you aren't gonna

Scott, if you aren't gonna believe everything you read from 9/11 skeptics just cuz they said so, why are you believing these supposed debunker sites, which only give the appearance of debunking? The alive hijackers, insider trading reports, NORAD 9/11 style drills, the unprecedented air defense failure, and many more problems have already been irreversibly researched and documented by hundreds of mainstream, credible, reputation-on-the-line news sources, visit www.cooperativeresearch.org to link to all the articles.

Here's my letter- it may be rude to call him a priss, but he used that name for a Police Chief who outlawed squirrel shooting in his town, so I figured he could relate. And his attitude and pansy-ass bow tie offend me to no end. Was that unhelpful? I did tone the letter down from what i wanted to say.

Tucker, regarding your treatment of Dr. Steven Jones, the WTC collapse issue and the viewer response-

You agreed with your second caller's opinion that Steven Jones is a nutcase, somone whose theories won't be taken seriously by reasonable people, but the
caller referred to WTC 7 as burning for several days. Does he mean it burned for several days before it collapsed, into its own footprint? If this is true, then it must have been burning for several days before 9/11, as it collapsed at 5:20pm on 9/11. Everyone knows the WTC was not burning before 9/11, but many people don't even know that WTC 7 collapsed- most people still rely heavily on the corporate agenda-controlled mainstream media, which has given as much attention to WTC 7 as it has the GAO report on
electronic voting released 9/21/05 (when are you going to cover that, Tucker?)
Apparently, you don't know that WTC7 collapsed on 9/11, as you agreed with the guy. Or is he referring to the molten steel found in the rubble? A kerosene explosion/fire won't burn hot enough to melt steel- so how did the molten steel happen, anyway? You and your 2nd caller have a very simple fact wrong, information that is easily verifiable and not disputed by the government, yet you see fit to denigrate a respected Physics Professor whose paper has been accepted for publication by a peer-review scientific journal. We'll see what the scientific community has to say about his
calculations and analysis, and we'll see how public opinion continues to evolve about 9/11 and about you and the rest of the lapdog press.

Stop being a priss, Tucker- the official 9/11 story is bogus, full of holes and supported by lies, this information is spreading rapidly and the belief is
growing that there needs to be a new investigation into the unanswered questions- 70% of the 9/11 Family
Steering Committee's questions were not addressed by the 9/11 Commission
http://www.911independentcommission.org. The 9/11 victim's families and the American People deserve better. I challenge you to show why these questions are unimportant and irrelevant. In "The 911 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions" David Ray Griffin uses the Commission's own report, mainstream sources and common sense to show the entire report is a fraud. I challenge you to read it and discredit it.

I love this country, our Republic and our
Constitution. I'm not leaving; We the People are going to take our government back from the neocon fascists who have hijacked it. "Give me liberty or give me
death". Ghandi drove out the British Empire with non-violent resistance, and so will the 9/11 Truth Movement drive out the moles and war pigs who have
wormed and slimed their way into power positions. The American People would never knowingly vote people into
office who would attack us for political and economic gain. Not that Bush won legitimately in 2000 OR 2004
(read the GAO report, you priss). If the public comes to believe our government is being controlled by evil private interests, public opinion will force the truth
out, and not you or an army of right-wing shills can stop it. Have some faith; the Defense Department might be corrupted (why don't you ask them to account for
that $2 trillion Rumsfeld said couldn't be accounted for on 9/10/01?), but the regular military isn't.


And many thanks to

And many thanks to 911blogger.com and jon gold for being on top of the media and starting the Tucker lobbying campaign, I'm sure the rest of the media is paying close attention.

First of all you didn't seem

First of all you didn't seem to address any of the inforamtion I provided. Please see the links I provided again. It delt with many of your claims.
Next there were the sound of many explosions from simply caused by the fires buring whats inside the building.


I hope this helps.

Erik I have shown without

Erik I have shown without doubt that the site you read are not being honest with you. Please before you judge or label me lpease read the information. Im not here to call anyone names. Just correct a lot of errors and further the debate.


So Scott, are you calling

So Scott, are you calling the FBI, FDNY, NYPD, EMS, reporters, and survivors who said that there were bombs in the buildings on 9-11 liars???

Could someone also give me a

Could someone also give me a working e-mail of Prof Jones. I tried to e-mail him but his e-mail didn't work.


Are you saying that when Tom

Are you saying that when Tom Franklin was told at 4:45pm that Building 7 "was ready to fall" it was just a lucky guess?????

Are you calling Indira Singh a liar too???

To Scott, I should have

To Scott, I should have known better. If I said the world was round you would argue it was flat. People like yourself are in such a state of denial that nothing anyone can say would make any difference. Wouldn't it be best for you to post on some neocon site where your comments would be better apprciated. Enjoy your sleep.

Are you denying that

Sorry maddog, that last one

Sorry maddog, that last one was to Scott LOL

Nope, possibly a few of the

Nope, possibly a few of the more far radical reports. But for the most part no. Just incorrect.
Are you calling various people in the Goverment/FBI/FEMA etc. liars?
Certainly not everyone agrees here.


Possibly Tom Franken knew

Possibly Tom Franken knew the building was going to fall because because of the massive damage.

Here's one account.
Deputy Chief Peter Hayden
Division 1 - 33 years

...also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 oÂ’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 oÂ’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse.


Whatreallyhappened.com is a

Whatreallyhappened.com is a conspiracy website run by Rivero. I find that guy to be very dishonest in his claims. But I agree when you first look at it, it does look like a controled demolition. I have no problem stating that.


Scott wrote: Are you calling

Scott wrote: Are you calling various people in the Goverment/FBI/FEMA etc. liars?


Not necessarily liars. Or

Not necessarily liars. Or being in on it. Further investigation would be needed to determine that for sure. The truth is, most aren't.

911myths.com is a CIA run

911myths.com is a CIA run website o debunk all the 9/11 truth movements claims. its obvious the 9/11 truth movement is getting way too much traction, so they were forced to step into action on debunking 9/11 and promoting the official government story. hell, even the state department website has a debunking section now.we are making progress Scott, and there is NOTHING you can do about it but post links to a CIA run website.

tucker is a

I think that the mere fact

I think that the mere fact that MSNBC allowed the issue of 911 skeptics on the air at all is a good sign. I mean, they're not fools right? They had to have researched 911 up to and especially Jones and his report, so if they didn't want to 'blow the lid off' the silence surrounding 911, then they would have just ignored Jones altogether like all the other mcMedia do. see what I'm saying?

4th time Hey everybody, I

4th time

Hey everybody,
I just nominated Steve E Jones
"wings of justice" person of the week
here http://www.wingsofjustice.com/nominate.html

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