New Bin Laden Statement - Open Thread

Bin Laden offers Americans truce -

In an audio tape broadcast on Aljazeera, Osama bin Laden has warned that al-Qaida is preparing an attack very soon, but also offers Americans a "long-term truce".

This new tape from the ultimate boogey man makes almost no sense at all, what does it mean?

Open thread, have at it, I'll post something more about this tonight.

...just the govtmedia

...just the govtmedia desperately trying to keep fear/mistrust/loathing of Muslims front and center, that's all. (For most people, it doesn't seem to matter that we cannot blame the collapses of the towers on airplanes as long as it's still socially acceptable to blame/hate Muslims for the attack.)

The official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is impossible, and makes no sense at all. Therefore it is useful to the terrorist-in-chief and his minions to periodically cloud the issue with well-publicized distractive/divisive/emotional disinformation in support of The Big Lie of 9/11 (such as when "Able Danger" suddenly got so much coverage last year).

As long as We The People are induced to associate 9/11 with Osama and Atta and Muslims, the big mindrape is kept fresh and potent.

This scenario fits in

This scenario fits in perfectly with the "Osama as CIA asset" hypothesis; not that you need to have Osama to make an audio tape of Osama's voice.

It makes tons of sense. It

It makes tons of sense. It comes out a a few hours before Cheney's scheduled terrorism speech. It reads like a list of Doves' talking points on the war. "It's too expensive, too many casualties, we should get out now." And the icing on the cake is the "truce offering." It associates anyone who's against the war with terrorist appeasers.
If this wasn't written on a desk at the Pentagon, I'll eat my house, gladly. I see through this like Grandma's underpants.
Three years now, and no actual videos of a living, breathing bin Laden. And the first thing the MSM "terr-a experts" are saying all day today, is "This really is bin Laden." Every one of them - point 1 is "affirm the authenticity."
You'd think just ONE of them would say, "Hmmm... kind of odd it's been audio only for the past 3 years..."
Lockstep, lockstep, lockstep...

Would all of you please

Would all of you please bombard with information regarding the 9/11 Insider Trading...


It's times like this when I

It's times like this when I wonder if Amerikans are truly waking up.... or, just continuing to succumb to the same old rhetoric and Pentagon sponsored "bin Laden" audio tapes.

I see the major problem being the media who rarely question any of this, and are primarily responsible for feeding the continued myth.

So when the next "terrorist" attack happens in Europe or America, will we respond as the Spaniards did and vote for a new leader, or put King George permanently on the throne? has over has over 800 comments on this already, with a very healthy dose of skepticism. Probably best to be on one's guard here about attacks, as well.

Goldstein from OrwellÂ’s

Goldstein from OrwellÂ’s 1984 speaks again, why doesnÂ’t Tim Osman speak about his cosy little visit from the CIA while he was, according to French Intelligence, in an American Hospital on Dalais in Dubai July 2001.

CIA agent alleged to have met Bin Laden in July,1361,584444,00.html

This is fake bullshit as usual, but I just hope the threat is as fake as bin laden. How the fuck are they going to link some attack to Iran or Syria, I hope that stupid big mouth idot running Iran doesn’t praise some attack on US soil in the name of “Allah”. Some many Iranians think he’s fool apparently, he just gives the fuckers whose agenda it is to make war with Iran so much ammo. In my opinion Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is either a planet considering all the CIA sponsored coups in that country, or a stupid prick, either way he’s not saying the right things.

It associates anyone who's

It associates anyone who's against the war with terrorist appeasers.


You hit the nail on the head!

That's excactly the intention of the Goldstein-manner.

Just remember 1984: Every word that came from the hated Goldstein was in fact the real truth, but, in connection that this came from him it was made outer bounds, not to accept for the common people.

I recommend stocking up on

I recommend stocking up on canned food and bags of dried beans.

This just in! The CIA has

This just in!

The CIA has CONFIRMED it's bin Laden!
The CIA determined Thursday that the voice on a tape claiming preparation for an al-Qaida attack on the United States was that of Osama bin Laden, an agency official said. The audio tape, played by the Arab network Al-Jazeera, was the first public communication from the terror group's leader since December 2004. "Following technical analysis of the Osama bin Laden tape aired today, the CIA assesses that it was the voice of Osama bin Laden," said the agency official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to use their name.

Awesome. Bet he shows up in Iran.

al-CIAda confirms it's bin

al-CIAda confirms it's bin Laden.

Gotta love that.

Sorta like the pot calling the kettle black.... except in this case, the "pot" is undercover. Sheesh.

Dem Bruce Lee Styles and Sitting-Bull, you are so perceptive to see the newspeak from 1984.

Isn't it incredibly frustrating to see this bullshit happening. I don't regret having taken the red pill, but damn....

Would all of you please

Would all of you please bombard with information regarding the 9/11 Insider Trading...

you got it Jon

Whenever morale is down, DC

Whenever morale is down, DC is enveloped in scandal and turmoil, and the public is swaying from the leadership.......

OBL to the rescue.

It reminds me of the "Mosh" video by Eminem, where Bin Laden is speaking in front of a "mountain", but its really a set, and the set collapses, and then behind the scenes are DC's elite, getting out of the way so they aren't on camera.

Blue Pill Sheeple don't deserve my air.

Don't forget, their

Don't forget, their extension to the Patriot Act will be expiring soon. Promises of future attacks by the boogeyman may be just what the doctor order to get the Patriot Act renewed.

We've had several "promises"

We've had several "promises" of an attack since 9/11... I think they need more than a "promise".

Oh i can hear the faithful

Oh i can hear the faithful idiot followers now... See Bush has kept us safe....
" operations of al-Qaida has not happened not because we could not penetrate the security..."
Of course thanks to the Patriot Act and Bushs constitutional right to wiretaps al-Qaida has been thworted. God bless GWB Oh great leader keep us safe here in the not so free world. Yes renew and expand the patriot act. Give us security and let us eat cake.

Jon, Raw Story will be added

Raw Story will be added to my e-mail list....i just sent these 4 articles in seperate e-mails to
i have handed out over 100 9-11 DVD's
so far..."at least 100 "confronting the evidence" and about 15 Loose Change 2nd edition...(Dylan these people would never have gone out of there way to buy any 9-11 DVD's,I do believe)


They don't talk about it on TV anymore, but someone tried to make money with unusual stock trades right before the terrorist attacks of September 11. Who knew to bet that United Airlines would lose money?

Suppressed Details of Criminal Insider Trading Lead Directly into the CIAÂ’s Highest Ranks
CIA Executive Director “Buzzy” Krongard managed firm that handled “PUT” options on United Airline Stock
by Michael C. Ruppert

Stock Trades on UAL and AAL
Airlines Used on 9-11 Targeted by Short-Selling Before Attack
Financial transactions in the days before the attack suggest that certain individuals tried to use foreknowledge of the attack to reap huge profits. The transactions included purchases of five-year U.S. Treasury notes and the purchase of put options on United Airlines and American Airlines, the two airlines used in the attack. U.S. Treasury notes are among the best investments in the event of an international crisis, and put options are a kind of leveraged bet that allows the holder to profit from declines in the value of the stock. The purchase of put options is also known as short-selling. Michael Ruppert has researched the short-selling of UAL and AAL stocks in detail. He wrote:

Between September 6 and 7, the Chicago Board Options Exchange saw purchases of 4,744 put options on United Airlines, but only 396 call options. Assuming that 4,000 of the options were bought by people with advance knowledge of the imminent attacks, these insiders would have profited by almost $5 million.

On September 10, 4,516 put options on American Airlines were bought on the Chicago exchange, compared to only 748 call options. Again, there was no news at that point to justify this imbalance; Again, assuming that 4,000 of these options trades represent insiders, they would represent a gain of about $4 million.

[The levels of put options purchased above were more than six times higher than normal.]

No similar trading in other airlines occurred on the Chicago exchange in the days immediately preceding Black Tuesday.

Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co., which occupied 22 floors of the World Trade Center, saw 2,157 of its October $45 put options bought in the three trading days before Black Tuesday; this compares to an average of 27 contracts per day before September 6. Morgan Stanley's share price fell from $48.90 to $42.50 in the aftermath of the attacks. Assuming that 2,000 of these options contracts were bought based upon knowledge of the approaching attacks, their purchasers could have profited by at least $1.2 million.

Merrill Lynch & Co., which occupied 22 floors of the World Trade Center, saw 12,215 October $45 put options bought in the four trading days before the attacks; the previous average volume in those shares had been 252 contracts per day [a 1200% increase!]. When trading resumed, Merrill's shares fell from $46.88 to $41.50; assuming that 11,000 option contracts were bought by insiders, their profit would have been about $5.5 million.

European regulators are examining trades in Germany's Munich Re, Switzerland's Swiss Re, and AXA of France, all major reinsurers with exposure to the Black Tuesday disaster. [FTW Note: AXA also owns more than 25% of American Airlines stock making the attacks a double whammy for them.]

On September 29, 2001 the San Francisco Chronicle reported, Investors have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits they made trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the Sept. 11, terrorist attacks, according to a source familiar with the trades and market data.

"The uncollected money raises suspicions that the investors whose identities and nationalities have not been made public had advance knowledge of the strikes. They don't dare show up now. The suspension of trading for four days after the attacks made it impossible to cash-out quickly and claim the prize before investigators started looking."

"October series options for UAL Corp. were purchased in highly unusual volumes three trading days before the terrorist attacks for a total outlay of $2,070; investors bought the option contracts, each representing 100 shares, for 90 cents each. [This represents 230,000 shares]. Those options are now selling at more than $12 each. There are still 2,313 so-called put options outstanding [valued at $2.77 million and representing 231,300 shares] according to the Options Clearinghouse Corp."

"The source familiar with the United trades identified Deutsche Bank Alex Brown, the American investment banking arm of German giant Deutsche Bank, as the investment bank used to purchase at least some of these options. This was the operation managed by Krongard until as recently as 1998."


Revealing 9-11 Stock Trades Could Expose The Terrorist Masterminds

A transparent and thorough investigation of suspicious trades before Sept. 11 could expose the masterminds behind the attacks by revealing who knew and profited from advance knowledge—if only the government wanted to.

Exclusive to American Free Press

By Christopher Bollyn


BY TvNewsLIES.ORG - April - 2005
Some things are so disturbing that they are almost impossible to believe. That is why, in the 9/11 enigma, less is more.

Until these questions are answered there is no need to establish more doubt. What we have here is solid undisputed evidence that we were never told the truth.

Before you read this article, conduct this test. Try to purchase some stock, or some futures, a mutual fund or some put options, without providing your identity. Go ahead and try it! See if you get anywhere. Find out what happens when you tell the investment firm that you want to make a huge investment anonymously. It canÂ’t be done.

Then ask yourself this question: How could someone have placed anonymous put options on American Airlines and United Airlines just prior to the attacks of 9/11? Then ask yourself why no one has investigated this suspicious deal. Ask yourself why there has been no attempt by the US government to identify the person who anticipated huge profits from a disaster that was yet to occur. Is it because the trail possibly leads to the CIA?

Then wonder about the collapse of Building 7 on the day of the attacks. Ask yourself why the owner of the building allowed the building to be pulled down (intentionally demolished) hours after the Twin Towers fell. Pulling down a building takes weeks of planning and preparation so that explosives can be safely positioned and wired. Not so in this case. Wonder why.

If you have any doubts at all about the official 9/11 story, then the answers to these questions are all the proof you need that something is very, very wrong!

Independent 9/11 researchers have worked nonstop since the events to examine the events of 9/11 and they have uncovered enough information to seriously challenge the official versions of what happened on that fateful day. But maybe, just maybe, the very fact that massive amounts of information are available is a problem in itself. There may be far too much evidence for most Americans to face.

The challenges to the official stories may be too devastating to be processed by the average American who has spent a lifetime believing in the system. Many people can deal with the minor violations that are part of the political scene, but cannot possibly fathom a government that might be complicit in an attack on its own people. They are not unlike the parents who eventually come to terms with a childÂ’s shoplifting spree. The same parents would do anything to deny far more serious accusations. Imagine the response of parents whose son turns out to be a Timothy McVeigh.

Some things are so disturbing that they are almost impossible to believe. That is why, in the 9/11 enigma, less is more. There is a real danger of frightening everyone off by offering too much information. Therefore, if we think of the problem as a chess game, two strategic moves can lead to checkmate.

There are two pieces of the 9/11 puzzle that on their own expose the lies of the administration.

Two questions must be raised so that even the most diehard Bush supporters realize they have been deceived. These are issues that no one can debate or dismiss. These are not conspiracy theories. They are fact-based questions that can lead to exposing the deceptions in the official reports. The apologists have no way to explain these away or justify them. Basically, they offer clear evidence that the official explanations of 9/11 are meaningless.



Someone had foreknowledge of the attacks. In the weeks leading up to 9/11 someone made a series of investments that would have paid off in huge profits because of the attacks. This is well documented and undisputed. This person specifically invested in the two airliners used in the attacks, anticipating windfall profits from any drop in the stock prices of these companies. This is solid evidence that at least one person in the United States had detailed information that something bad was going to happen to the specific airlines that were to be used in the attack.

We have been told that the person who made these investments never claimed the profits. We are expect

looks like the ultimate

looks like the ultimate excuse to leave iraq

so typical. kind of funny

so typical. kind of funny how its just an audio and not video huh? and by the way, are a bunch of hacks. they banned me from their site for speaking too much 9/11 truth.bastards.

watch those middle

watch those middle america,flag waving,kool-aid drinking hicks send Bushs poll numbers up now because of this farce.disgusting.

and whats funny is, most

and whats funny is, most conservatives pride themselves on being so "tough" ans shit, yet they are the ones that so readily fall for the government propaganda,and they are the pussies that beg the clearly inept government to keep them safe from "terrists".bullshit.

Thank pw.

Thank pw.

The Abramoff and DeLay

The Abramoff and DeLay Scandeals are swirling, becoming massive and are threatening to actually make the evening news, Congress has decided to hold hearings on illegal wiretapping and the Repubs are going to let it happen on the hill (as opposed to the basement they stuck Conyers in), and Murtha's gaining ground on the whole pullout issue.

what better distraction from all this than a tape by the phantom adversary?

It'll get everyone 'back on message'... so to speak.

There needs to be every

There needs to be every level made to peentrate 9/11 Truth, even in small doses, to any anti Bush-anti war-democratic, etc site online.

I mentioned to my friends back in November 2004 how suspicious it was that two days before the election, a bin Laden tape comes out telling people to NOT vote for Bush. Well of course that will make people vote for Bush. Now that John Skull and Bonesman Kerry was a good choice.

So yeah, looks like Osama bin Stooge
is being needed again. Does anyone even care about this guy anymore?

Webster Tarpley on "National

Webster Tarpley on "National Intel Report" radio show yesterday, 1/18, the archive doesn't list anyone, so just click the 1/18 show:

The CIA authenticated the

The CIA authenticated the tape as being the voice of bin Laden. That settles that then! Yeah, a video would be nice. The tape also surfaces the same day Bush wants to know what we're searching Goggle for. Bend over!

Bear in mind - what TeamBush

Bear in mind - what TeamBush needs now is not another 9/11, they need another Millenium Bombing. A foiled attack. They need to be the heroes, protecting their flock (literally).
That's what's coming down the pipeline. It'll have Iranian ties, and it'll be discovered and stopped at the last moment, using, of course -wiretapping.