I just got off the phone with Janice, and she gave me a great idea. Because I am a constituent of Rep. Weldon, and because we just had a zogby poll that said half of his constituents want a new Independent investigation, that we should push him for that, and if not, why not, and if not, tell him that I will campaign against him, etc... that is the PERFECT way to use the Zogby poll... to approach every elected official, and say, "I am one of the 45% of your constituency that want a new investigation into 9/11. What are you going to do about it?"

i just hope she wins re-election. i can see the dirty campaign commercials now......

Office of Special Plans redux (Iran)
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Pentagon_confirms_Iranian_directorate_...

funny picture.

(bin Laden, the Bunny)

http://www.gerhard-wisnewski.de/spaw/images/bin%20hase.jpg

http://www.blabbermouth.net/ministry_rio.jpg

"Isn't Zogby the same poll that said Kerry won the election? Hence, keeping our minds off the war to focus on this "stolen" election that was to be "fixed" by the good ol Dems. Get off your asses folks.

Polling isn't an exact science, no matter which polling service runs the poll.

Fuck Alex Jones, Fuck David Ray, and stop posting these "funny pictures".

I have a great deal of respect for Dr. Griffin, and I think Alex Jones has made some good contributions. The "funny pictures", the songs, etc... help us keep our sanity.

Get offline.

Get to the streets, without the bullhorns. Ignore these so called "experts" and "Ex-CIA".

I agree and disagree. "Ex-CIA" and "Experts" lend credibility to our message.

I agree to pressure Cynthia though. She may have had her bad press but it is my opinion that we can trust her to spread this around if enough people act concerned.

I agree.

Of course, probobly won't get us anywhere with the way government is run.

Would you rather not try?

The "progressive" websites promise us a new breakthrough every week to keep up staring at the computer screen.

I agree. To a certain extent. I don't promise anything. I just try to keep people informed.

---A couple of questions for Jon Gold: Is it a coincidence that we have countless "whistleblowers" like Sibel Edmonds that can't actually state anything?

Sibel has said a lot of things. The perpetrators of 9/11 have gagged Sibel. She didn't do it by choice. If you remember, she was willing to testify before the 9/11 Commission. The families stood behind her. We should ALWAYS support the efforts of whistleblowers. Without them, we have no way of monitoring the powers that be.

Is is possible we are all being led around to dead ends?

It's VERY possible. However, I do the best I can everyday, and that's all I can do, and that's all I would ever ask of anyone else.

Is whoever did this so inept that they wouldn't create the truth movement and infiltrate it to the hilt?

Of course they've infiltrated the movement. Again, I and we can only do our best every day.

I agree it's time to be as visible as possible. I agree it's time to step away from the computers. I keep asking people if anything is planned for the anniversary of the report, but I never hear a response. I would be up for something even sooner. I know something big is planned for the anniversary. I hope as many people as possible attend.

But the computer does serve a purpose.

Has someone seen this?

DC 9/11 - Time of Crisis

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002F6AJI/sr=8-5/rc3389-2...

I am intrigued. I would like to see it ... BAD PROPAGANDA can have a healing effect, too.

Maybe its so bad that it can serve as
"a test of will" ...

And Brian, no independent investigation was allowed on any of the debris from WTC.

The link you just posted about "steel being tested" was where some token debris was sifted through at Staten Island garbage dump. That is not a scientific investigation.

You are being very shilly, Sir.

here brian. a professor of mechanical engineering at clemson univ. has revised her essay:
http://janedoe0911.tripod.com/BilliardBalls.html
take it to any geniuses that you might know and ridicule it in a reverse psychology tactic and see if anyone can find any mistakes. maybe that will get any geniuses who are unfamiliar with the 911 facts to start paying attention.

Loads of facts have been uncovered showing that Atta & his buddies could not be jihadists, just as they were not capable pilots.

(You & Alex Jones can debate gays & fems all you want after 9/11 is resolved. 9/11 truth is far more pressing at the moment.)

Your right anon. But if some of the steel was tested that day, that's enough for most people to say "hey that david ray griffin is lying to us". This is just in my experience. Remember, most people still believe that fires brought down three buildings at nearly free-fall speed.

My apologies if you are sincerely a novice truther, Brian. It's just that some of your one-liners look like things various disinfo artists like post here.

Main point being that the majority is never going to get this unless we really clean up our image

just do what you do and let everyone else do what they do. that's what i do.
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Got WTC #7 ? don't change a thing!

Ok this is all coming very quickly.
good link James
Alex Jones will turn people off just because of that.
As a shill, what am I swindling you into? Considering the idea that your movement is a full of disinfo as any other? More so? Just because people know that the no planes and podplanes are disinfo, they think they can trust almost anything else.
more on attah in a few seconds

ok..minutes. Just dont need anymore rants on here from anybody. I would like to portray my thoughts clearly on this drug running thing.

brian just let it go. if someone calls you a shill and you're not, then at least you know that you are not. and don't start in about no planes and pod people being disinfo or i will embark on a no-planes proving rampage. i suggest that you let that go as well.

Attah, in my opinion is a decoy with a thick tabloid past that may or may not be true. The point of getting a lot of this so-called evidence to the forefront is to create an endless trail to follow. You remember when articles came out saying that these attah bits were the "proof"? Please prove to me that these things (and "the grove" for that matter") should be focused on or considered at all? Of course, the government is hard-core in the drug business but prove to me that this has any relevance to 9/11 in a meaningful sense. Links would be nice, and I will gladly comment. We are constantly set up for new breakthroughs in all this anti-government shit and I am frankly sick of being sent into endless caverns.

o.k. this could possibly have been a rant but I am very tired and busy.

right about the shill thing James, should know better not to comment on pety insults.

Are you sarcastic about the no-planes thing? If not I am honestly intruiged.

"Isn't Zogby the same poll that said Kerry won the election?

John Zogby was on the site of the doubters. He runs a article called "I smelled a rat" by Colin Shea.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1115-20.htm

Brian, if want to debate the facts, then I kindly suggest you use the 9/11 commission report as your resource for argument.
Thank you

Brian,
You do stand by that report, don't you?

I'm not sure where you came to that colcusion Cloak. Otherwise, some of you might be a little too deep into this to fathom anything that I am saying.(albiet, I admit in a way that could be more convincing)
I may return at another time after further research and when I am more alert.
I just pray to god that you all realize that the 9/11 truthers are most-likely being sold.

Zogby-wise: It's not that I don't think the election was stolen,(thrown/staged might be a better word),it's that Zogby is perhaps being used as a tool to make people think that it is all good. "Oh, a lot of people think that LIHOP is possible? Ok, I can just sit here and let the truth get out or post about it on my blog."

And I was told Rove was to be indicted as well, with no doubts. Sealed indeed.

not sarcastic
are you truly intrigued brian? it's a wacky concept for one to get their mind around at first, but i believe that it bears out under true scrutiny. i would suggest starting here:
a critique of the complete official version of the second hit
and: morgan reynolds' we have some holes
it goes way beyond these generalities though, into analyses of the images of flight 175:
ghost gun UA175
the main thing to consider is that princess leia was a hologram, and the no-plane concept has nothing to do with a hologram. that is a word that is often bandied about by those that scoff instead of delve. ha, out.

I'll check it out James. Back another time.

cool - one last thing; while i believe that the images of 175 actually impacting the south tower that we were presented with by the mcmedia were cgi's, i don't believe that springing that on unsuspecting strangers is beneficial to promoting the concept that 911 was an inside job.

the CGI theory doesn't fit with the photographs of 175, like the one that won the Pulizer prize, the one that shows the UA colors on it.

The only possibility would be that they faked *every* single photograph and video, and discredited/planted every single eye-witness.

That takes a BIG CONSPIRACY and everyone knows that conspiracies involving too many people won't work, because someone will not keep his mouth shut (like Silverstein about WTC7).

The truth must be in the middle. There was definitely "something" wrong with 175, like the loose/shaking turbofan engine during it's approach, and the WTC 'absorbing' them, it's just we dont know what it was.

The CGI theory helps recruit 9/11 truthers, too, just like the Pentagon no-plane theory, as long as it's properly presented and leaves the gate open for other explanations. Stop the in-fighting, goliath is the enemy. Anyone that starts this fight by calling other theories 'disinformation' is in my view a sorry ass paid by the CIA to paralyze us.

James, I wish you would back off this cgi stuff. It's just another incredible/unbelievable layer being added to further complicate the truth movement.

Thank you anon. Is this the same anon. that says Alex Jones is really going to get us anywhere? He is quite a layer in himself. I do visit his site frequently however because most of what he says is true.

greg, let me see a link to this pulitzer prize winning photo of 175 that shows the colors, if you would be so kind. and a loose/shaking turbofan engine during it's approach? that's a good one and i'd love to see that as well!
i am not here to argue with you guys, sow dissent, interfere with anyone's movement or promote disinfo. but scrutiny of the images of 175 will eventually be the undoing of the fairytale. IMHO. in the meantime i wholly support the work of all the scholars. http://st911.org/

the last moment change of course
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Conspiracy of the day..

Italy did not win vs USA because they
got paid shitloads of money.

the CGI-theory..

fake

EVERY SINGLE PHOTO of the plane approaching.

hmmm

but that can be achieved. How many were there? Maybe 30? We already saw that a few of them WERE faked, (like the front-page of DER SPIEGEL)

But then think backwards from the result.

The only really dangerous photos would be the ones that showed the "impact area" ONE SECOND BEFORE THE EXPLOSION

But how can someone press the shutter
one second before an event that (s)he cannot know will come?

And even *if* they do. How can you tell *that* it was 1/2 a second before the explosion?

Well, it actualy can be .. the SMOKE CLOUDS IN THE AIR have certain shapes and therfore I would like to suggest a

SMOKE-CLOUD dendrology exercise for the vital second before "impact"

I think there *is* a photo around that clearly shows the tower WITHOUT THE PLANE, where it should have one.

I find the BIRD ON THE LEDGE video quite revealing. The bird DOES fly away, one second before "impact".
But there were CLEARLY VISIBLE explosions in the OTHER (burning) tower... and the camera-shake CLEARLY was from ground-movement and not from "explosion-wind" because it shook BEFORE the "impact" explosion. And it shook MORE VIOLENTLY DURING and *AFTER* ...

it *is* like Richard Grove says:

The event up-high in the towers were DISTRACTIONS from what went on on the ground. We shuold aks him on that.. he witnessed something important down there that day.