From Freedom to Fascism on Google Video
Somebigguy Tue, 09/19/2006 - 8:09am
Check it out here, thanks to everyone who sent this in:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3719132275557884702&hl=en-CA
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Check it out here, thanks to everyone who sent this in:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-3719132275557884702&hl=en-CA
G. Edward Griffin is one of
G. Edward Griffin is one of the characters F2F has interview clips of.
His main book, The Creature From Jeckyll Island: A Second Look At The Federal Reserve, is one of those books which will wrench your view of the world we're all passing through. Highly recommended.
His site is also very informative, http://www.freedomforceinternational.org
He has some articles there about 911 Truth, too. It's funny that Russo had a few 911 Truthers interviewed in F2F (Ruppert, Fitts, G.E.Griffin), but the film makes no mention of 911 Truth, per se. Prolly just didn't want to choke his audience on too much Red Pill all at once.
Another documentary on the Fed, and our Debt Based Fractional Reserve Fiat Funny Money system, which is arguably "the root" of 911 and what's coming economically (Great Depression 2.0), is called "The Money Masters" and can be found on the web for free.
9/11 PRESS FOR TRUTH, A
9/11 PRESS FOR TRUTH, A VIDEO DOCUMENTARY
© 2006 by G. Edward Griffin 2006 September 18
"... Having spoken my piece, I now must say that this is one of the best documentaries (as far as it goes) that you are apt to ever see on the topic of prior knowledge on 9/11. Let us hope that the producers will soon tell the other half of the story with the same clarity. Otherwise, it will become just a campaign film for the Democrat Party....
Read entire article here.
Wow
Why does this make perfect sense? Big Wall Street bankers, guilty of robbing the public since 1913? This all fits with Michael Ruppert's findings. The country truly has been hijacked, but it happened in 1913. Go figure. No wonder the public is so naive. They've been manipulated and deceived for over 100 years. This all ties into the crimes of 9/11. where there's big money and power, there's corruption that's equally big. The truth surely does hurt, but we need more of it.
Another Movie on The Banking Cabal
"guilty of robbing the public since 1913" If you watch the following movies, you will see that they have been doing this way before 1913:
Last night I watched the documentary called "The Money Masters":
The Money Masters video gives a history of how the European and American the banking system are being taken over.
Part 1:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4991544789166784731
Part 2:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1405312651760707972
Or order a DVD:
www.themoneymasters.com
At the end of this telling documentary, they show a quote from David Rockefeller speaking at the UN, Sept. 14, 1994:
"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." --David Rockefeller
In addition to the above, this video conveys the patterns of wars and economic conditions that were obviously manipulated by these croooks for the sole interest of greed! The video gives a thorough history of "the International Bankers" going back 300 years! After watching this and reading alot on the net, I feel it comes down to a simple "assumption", and that is that these are the real folks in power, always have been, always will be!
I found this video over at Daryl Bradford Smith's web site, where the following is written:
"Watch Aaron Russo's Freedom to Fascism
Why are so many web sites recommending this movie? Why are movie theater showing it? Compare it to the Money Masters and see if you can figure it out. Is it an improvement over the Money Masters? Or an attempt to shift the blame away from the Rothchilds and onto the IRS, George Bush, and the mysterious Globalists who want to put chips under your skin? Do you learn much from it? Or does it frighten you? Can you see the deception? Can you see a pattern in who promotes Russo?"
I have not seen Aarons film yet, but will post my thoughts and comparison when I do.
Thank you
I'll watch these next. Maybe it's a combination of all these things that really go way back. We are doomed.
Well... if our only remaining question would be....
Which elite last name tail gets pinned on the money scam donkey's butt?.... it makes little difference to me. Three minutes before We announce our findings of who's holding the bad-money bag today... nine out of ten times the slippery weasel will dump its stocks, transfer any remaining holdings, and slip into the night with more loot than necessary, but not so much to slow down a fast escape.
The hurdle for most common people, my very self included... is extracting ourselves from one seriously wrong economic "system", and as smooth as humanly possible (our only real problem)... learning and utilizing another more equitable method... with as much vigilance as we can muster, for as long as we can keep it up... before the cycle of malevolence creeps back in.
The BEST defense against finance manipulation, is knowledge. But that is no assurance that the money already surrounding us, and most every one we know... is not already a death trap we knowingly look at, at our possible peril. We will have a hard time smoothly (as if it could be done simultaneously. not!) transitioning back to tangible (gold or potatoes, really little difference) or labor-property exchange methods.
The paper currency, even the very bills currently in circulation, need not be burned at some sacrificial stake of guilt.... the smoothest transition would simply be for an honestly elected Congress, to seize the FED, eliminate the middle man, stop incurring unnecessary interests payed solely by income tax, stop inflating prices by printing deceptive fiats..... and the economy COULD calm out like a glassy ocean (exactly what the Masters DO NOT WANT).
People who are currently employed or busy themselves through genuine productivity and needed or wanted services... remain rock solid. Produce and products, be they necessary or frivolous can retain values approximating the dollars they are measured in at the time of transition. This is not off the wall thinking, but the money masters, banks, and mentally twisted scum passing themselves off as Public Servants will howl with more outlandish cries of terror and turmoil should we attempt any such move away from "the precious system we all enjoy today".
We do have some deep soul searching ahead of us.... We are definitely trapped within an inequity... we can break free of it... but only when we conquer our fear of a change We can effect, or just ride along dumb and stupid.
"The truth shall make you free." Why not make the truth free? We live on a priceless blue pearl, awash in a universe of fire and ice. Cut the crap.
Doomed?
We are only doomed if we think we are doomed. What we are seeing here is a battle of minds and ideas. Russo mentions the Elite have no power without our consent. We give them the power. He also mentions that the Federal Reserve is just a tool. Without that tool they can do nothing. It would be like Bonds trying to hit a home run without a bat. It can't be done. If everyone else thought the way we truthers think the problem would disappear. That is why 9/11 truth is so important. It is our job to wake as many people up as possible. 9/11 truth is the catalyst. When people see through 9/11 they wake up in a hurry. I know I did. Now that I am awake these world bankers are a joke to me. I laugh at them. What are they going to do about it?...................Nothing, because I won't give them power.
The Money Masters is
The Money Masters is probably the best single American History lesson I've ever had. I can't stress how informative this documentary is. Two Thumbs Up!!!
Google Removed Them!
Google removed above links, here are new ones:
Part 1:
The Money Masters Part1
Part 2:
The Money Masters Part 2
Bill Still the Producer of The Money Master @ The Tax Freedom Ra
Another Google Video of Bill Still speaking this August, Bill is the Auther, producer of "The Money Masters" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7027020665149585773&q=The+Money... The powers of financial capitalism had a far-reaching ... all » plan, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole...Their secret is that they have annexed from governments, monarchies, and republics the power to create the world's money Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither. --Benjamin Franklin
You have to be very careful with this
It is a economic fact that indepence of Federal Bank is essential to the economy.
It is organized so in every grown up economy of every developed country.
The problem is that there are TOO many connections, influencies between
goverment and Federal Reserve - so in fact, those two institutions do not act
independently!
A bit juxtaposed...
salvi: would you mind saying that again, in a different way? I'm not sure if you're talking about an economy, its common currency, or the people dabbling with skimming either/both.
F2F; a big puzzle piece.
Look for a video of Aaron talking to an audience of gatherers after one of his personal F2F premiers. They walk across the street to a library after the film, and he does what I think of a genuine and frank interaction with people off the street. He patiently listens to all sorts of questions, some normal some abnormal... and yet still keeps the general direction positive and visionary.
Somewhere halfway through "UNPLUGGED" (search that word with Aaron Russo) a person broaches the subject, and the dear Mr. Russo lays it out in some simple terms. Building 7, air-defense, the frenzied thoughtless reaction and so on.
He's NOT drifting out there with this film disconnected from the big picture. He mentions 9/11 ONCE, only to make the point that what has happened to America IS NOT the sole response to 9/11... but rather a long and detailed attempt by elite to formulate and mold society according to their wishes... at the abject detriment to We the People.
Aaron Russo Unplugged
Here is the url to Aaron Russo Unplugged. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2947267143366647266&q=Aaron+Russo
In some respects it is better than the movie. About 15 min. into the video he discusses 9/11 and WTC7. It is filmed at a Borders Book Store.
yeah, its great to see the
yeah, its great to see the looks on the faces of some of the people in the audience. Aaron Russo knows how to grip an audience. reality tends to do that.
The video of Aaron Russo unplugged
I just tried the link to that video, it doesn't work. Actually its unavailable.
Try this
it's still working as of now
Working Link
This link is working fine:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8944348317320163203&hl=en
frightening but enlightening
I watched this the other night, and found it VERY depressing. I already knew some of what was in it so it wasn't like a complete shock. But, still, the whole section on the National ID card and the chip implants -- with a clip of Andy Rooney on 60 Minutes saying he is in favor of the implant -- is incredibly scary to me. Russo suggests that people resist having that done, and also that We the People try to prevent any of this from becoming law. I hate to be a pessimist, but there's not a lot of indication that there's much resistance building for these 1984 tactics.
Given that likely reality, what are the practical solutions to National ID card/chip implant resistance?
Chip Implants a Good Idea!
I think chipping some people is a good idea. I think Dick Cheney would be a good test case. If the chip had GPS then "we the people" could track him via web control panel.
I also think that a web cam in his tie clip would also be helpful so that we do can watch children being tortured behind the fake mirror at Dick's resort in eastern europe.
Koffi Anna just received a standing ovation at his speech to the UN. Bush is up in a few minutes. Bush against the world. The new world order against the war. How ironic.
correction
"The new world order against the world" is what I meant
Maybe...
"The War Against The World For A New World Order"... is that what Bushy Boy is talking about?
"The truth shall make you free." Why not make the truth free? We live on a priceless blue pearl, awash in a universe of fire and ice. Cut the crap.
The War Against The World
The War Against The World For A New World Order
It is after all the "War on Terra" :)
World War on Terra to Order the World to War with Terra...
The New World Order, Orderly New World, New Orderly World, New World Ordered, Worldly New Disorder , World Newly Ordered, World Orderly News, Orderly World Newness, Disorderly New World, Terror of War, World Terror War, War Of World Terror, Orderly World of New Terror, New Terror of World Order......
ya know... some of those DO sound better than others... and probably why these very words carry so much power, and talks to their popularity and inherent feeling of coziness today..... ahhhhhh. to be in the belly of the beast.
Hey.... would anybody else feel like some more choice cuts from Finnegans Wake... or even The Strangelove? You know, for the trolls. (It's kinda like watching TV, but without the calories.)
You forgot....
New World Odor
LOL
Thanks for the humor Edward -- much needed in today's world.
But seriously, I will probably try and figure out how I can "escape" the National ID -- it'll mean getting rid of my car and never driving (legally) again. It'll mean I won't be able to fly or ride an Amtrak train. I wonder if cab drivers will be instructed not to pick up non-ID holders......
As if some Sci-Fi story book?
Resistance to this kind of identification... is life and death. I've already had my car taken, my state ID seized and my bank accounts entangled by NGO's claiming governmental authority. Do I care about "legally" boarding a plane, train or taxi? Bullshit! Doing such things is a human right, I'm concerned with my lawful behavior and Authorities DEEP infringement upon me already.
As far as I'm concerned, even low level as it may seem to many, the Police State IS HERE NOW!
Many of us will simply be crushed before enough people wake the fuck up, and put an end to this insanity. This shit isn't "waiting" to happen like some Sci-Fi story book.... it's happening right now.
"The truth shall make you free." Why not make the truth free? We live on a priceless blue pearl, awash in a universe of fire and ice. Cut the crap.
may I ask
for more about your situation? What were the circumstances? Whatever you feel comfortable explaining.
Comfort is no longer the issue.
CK, I'm writing up a few things, to address what I raised and answer you in a thoughtful way. If this blog is still going, I'll post here.. if not in my own blog. Take care.
Off Topic
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060919/ap_on_re_as/thailand
Military launches coup against PM
By GRANT PECK, Associated Press Writer 11 minutes ago
BANGKOK, Thailand -
"The Thai military launched a coup against Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra on Tuesday night, circling his offices with tanks, seizing control of TV stations and declaring a provisional authority pledging loyalty to the king.
An announcement on Thai television declared that a "Council of Administrative Reform" with King Bhumibol Adulyadej as head of state had seized power in Bangkok and nearby provinces without any resistance.
At least 14 tanks surrounded Government House, Thaksin's office. Thaksin was in New York at the U.N. General Assembly and declared a state of emergency via a government-owned TV station.
A convoy of four tanks rigged with loudspeakers and sirens rolled through a busy commercial district warning people to get off the street for their own safety.
A senior military official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation, said army Commander-in-Chief Gen. Sondhi Boonyaratkalin had used the military to take over power from the prime minister.
Thaksin has faced calls to step down amid allegations of corruption and abuse of power.
Massive rallies earlier this year forced Thaksin to dissolve Parliament and call an election in April, three years ahead of schedule. The poll was boycotted by opposition parties and later annulled by Thailand's top courts, leaving the country without a working legislature.
Thaksin's Thai Rak Thai Party twice won landslide election victories, in 2001 and 2005 and had been expected to win the next vote on Oct. 15, bolstered by its widespread support in the country's rural areas.
In 1992, demonstrators against a military strongman were gunned down before the king stepped in to end the fighting and usher in a period of stability.
On Monday, Thaksin had said he may step down as leader of the country after upcoming elections, but he will remain at the helm of his party, despite calls for him to give up the post.
On Tuesday night, several hundred soldiers were deployed at government installations and major intersections in the capital of Bangkok, according to an Associated Press reporter.
Army-owned TV channel 5 interrupted regular broadcasts with patriotic music and showed pictures of the king. At least some radio and television stations monitored in Bangkok suspended programming.
The cable television station of the Nation newspaper reported that tanks were parked at the Rachadamnoen Road and royal plaza close to the royal palace and government offices.
"The prime minister with the approval of the cabinet declares serious emergency law in Bangkok from now on" Thaksin said on Channel 9 from New York. He said he was ordering the transfer of the nation's army chief to work in the prime minister's office, effectively suspending him from his military duties.
Thaksin's critics want to jettison his policies promoting privatization, free trade agreements and CEO-style administration.
Opposition to Thaksin gained momentum in January when his family announced it had sold its controlling stake in telecommunications company Shin Corp. to Singapore's state-owned Temasek Holdings for a tax-free $1.9 billion. Critics allege the sale involved insider trading and complain a key national asset is now in foreign hands.
Thaksin also has been accused of stifling the media and mishandling a Muslim insurgency in southern Thailand that flared under his rule.
In Thailand's mostly Muslim south, separatist insurgents have waged a bloody campaign that has left at least 1,700 dead, mostly civilians, since 2004. Citizens there have complained of rights abuses by soldiers and discrimination by the country's Buddhist majority."
Could this happen with our administration???
Reading
Reading this...
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/09/19/thailand.coup.rumor/index.html
... the military seizing power after a vote was ruled unconstitutional, sounds familiar, i wonder is this what would happen in the U.S. if 9/11 truth were to find hard evidence of an inside job - Bushco would be marched out of the White House by M.P. police in handcuffs.
It could...
Happen... you need to watch this...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5832390545689805144&q=The+Revolu...
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
Jon, did you ever get around to watching the
counter-argument to TRWNBT?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3378761249364089950&q=revolutio...
"There's a shadow on the faces of the men who send the guns to the wars that are fought in places where their business interest runs."
Some of it...
And it reminded me of Fahrenhype 9/11... something to confuse the issue.
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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."
you actually saw Fahrenhype
you actually saw Fahrenhype 9/11? do you remember who made that? i cant imagine what that trash was like.
Michael Moore may be pretty
Michael Moore may be pretty weak and hypocritical, but Farhenheit 9/11 was pretty good in my opinion. kind of soft, but still pretty good.
Western civilization really is at risk from Muslim extremists.
Western civilization really is at risk from Muslim extremists.
Head-in-the-Sand Liberals
By Sam Harris, SAM HARRIS is the author of "The End of Faith: Religion, Terror and the Future of Reason." His next book, "Letter to a Christian Nation," will be published this week by Knopf. samharris.org.
September 18, 2006
"At its most extreme, liberal denial has found expression in a growing subculture of conspiracy theorists who believe that the atrocities of 9/11 were orchestrated by our own government. A nationwide poll conducted by the Scripps Survey Research Center at Ohio University found that more than a third of Americans suspect that the federal government "assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East;" 16% believe that the twin towers collapsed not because fully-fueled passenger jets smashed into them but because agents of the Bush administration had secretly rigged them to explode.
"Such an astonishing eruption of masochistic unreason could well mark the decline of liberalism, if not the decline of Western civilization. There are books, films and conferences organized around this phantasmagoria, and they offer an unusually clear view of the debilitating dogma that lurks at the heart of liberalism: Western power is utterly malevolent, while the powerless people of the Earth can be counted on to embrace reason and tolerance, if only given sufficient economic opportunities."
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"Given the mendacity and shocking incompetence of the Bush administration — especially its mishandling of the war in Iraq — liberals can find much to lament in the conservative approach to fighting the war on terror. Unfortunately, liberals hate the current administration with such fury that they regularly fail to acknowledge just how dangerous and depraved our enemies in the Muslim world are."
Get Real
Please, Give me a break. Our only enemies in the Muslim world are the ones we created with our insane foreign policy. Get a grip mister. Buy the way the so-called "War on Terror" is bogus. The war on terror is a war on us.
Head in the Sand Neo-Con
abg, why are you peddling Rush Limbaugh's latest talking points here?
because its gullible fear
because its gullible fear that drives her and her kind.
Repeating yourself cross-blog-style, again?
Watch out for those patterns....
As before: "If you're convinced I'm a liberal....
That might be on account of the hill-top of racism you sit upon.
I don't have enemies in the Muslim world, in-fact I have some wonderful friends there (you might want to give HomeLand Security a ring and TIP them off that I just said I have friends in the Muslim world).
What we're all struggling with (those of us excluded from effecting Policy carried out in our very names, by diffuse and Hold-Harmless creeps) is not some lack of economic opportunities... but the inequitable manipulation of them."
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"The truth shall make you free." Why not make the truth free? We live on a priceless blue pearl, awash in a universe of fire and ice. Cut the crap.
abg
No, the world is threatened by right wing whackos, whether they be muslim, christian, jewish, or satanists. Russian, Chinese, German or British. Black, white, yellow or brown. You know that. They all do the same thing. Just look at who's doing the mass killings. It doesn't matter what you call them. They all do the same thing. You can call Hitler a fascist, a socialist or a saint. That doesn't change what he was. An extream right wing whacko. Same with Stalin, pol pot, Ghengis Khan or mao. Bad things are done by some people in all religions, races, nations and people in general. You know that. Why do you misplace the blame? These are facts. They are concrete proof. Just add up the number of dead people throughout history and you can see the proof yourself.
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that article is pure fear of
that article is pure fear of critical thought(which is typical among rightwing zombies). as the numbers keep rising on 9/11 awareness, partisan hacks like you and those of your kind on the left and right will look more and more ridiculous. dont quit your day job, you suck as a comedian and you look like a zombie. you could project a movie off of that elephant-man forehead.
OBSESSION: Radical Islam's War Against The West documentary...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1211228663574416724&q=obsession
check it out folks.
"There's a shadow on the faces of the men who send the guns to the wars that are fought in places where their business interest runs."
you dont endorse that
you dont endorse that propaganda do you? perpetuating the "war on terror" myth all the way. clash of civilizations? i dont think so........
I don't endorse it, but I think we should give both sides
the ability to bring what they have.
"There's a shadow on the faces of the men who send the guns to the wars that are fought in places where their business interest runs."
im not saying there is no
im not saying there is no genuine terrorism threat, but a "movie" like that is pure propaganda in my opinion. that only helps to sell the myth of a clash of civilizations.
we're have a bigger risk
we're have a bigger risk from christian extremists - we KNOW they got nukes..
Sam Harris is no right-wing
Sam Harris is no right-wing nut case. Harris is very much against religious dogmatism, in whatever form. While I follow the items posted on this web site, that doesn't blind me from looking at evidence about what Muslims believe about Western infiltration of their lands and how that would anger them enough to want to destroy us.
I Wonder
I wonder if a foreign country landed troops in america to set up their choice of a political system, would there be resistance or would the USA greet them with flowers?
I imagine we would be
I imagine we would be labeled "insurgants".
Catherine Austin Fitts
One of the people in the film is Catherine Austin Fitts. Google up that name and spend a signifcant amount of time reading what she has to say.
Read what she has to say about following the money on 9/11.
Read her major work at http://dunwalke.com/ and make sure you check out all the links in her extensive lists of resources at the end. (The article is downloadable there in pdf format.)
Read her articles on the negative ROI economy, the tapeworm economy, the popsicle index (or Solari index), "coming clean", and more.
Go over to her other web site at www.solari.com/ and stay a while. In addition to more articles and an explanation about what you can do about it, there is a forum.
I've suggested that 9/11 is the doorway through which we can bring people to see what's going on in this nation. The act of 9/11, as bad as it was, is but a single example... a good one, a highly visible event through which you can wake up the American people ... but in the end only a strategic moment in a bigger scenario that happened over five years ago....
The game is still going on.
War on Boiling the Planet
We need to get Al Gore to onboard with us. He's already been coated with the nut job paint.
9/11 truth is the key to radical change. No one can guarantee that it might get worse, but the course we're on now is pointless.
Austin Fitts is a great
Austin Fitts is a great writer, just wished she wasn't a Scientologist .
please sign this.
The Senate must not pardon President Bush for breaking the law
This week, the Senate is planning to quietly hold a vote that would pardon President Bush for breaking the law by illegally wiretapping innocent Americans. So far, Democrats and some Republicans are holding strong against the bill, and there are good chances to stop it if enough of us speak up.
http://pol.moveon.org/dontpardon/?id=8810-1888996-o_KUEn0zp7HlC_tJTIbikg...
This film is luke-warm
The film is slightly absurd.
"America was free before 1913". LMAO
This cat needs to get a history book and quick.
Actually, when anarchists and socialists finally won the eight hour work day, minimum wage and the end of child labor -- THAT was when "FREEDOM" began for MOST Americans. Still more after the same groups along with blacks propelled the civil rights movement. This happened AFTER the Fed. Before that (during the 19nth C) it was hell on Earth for the majority of the working population. In the late 19nth C workers couldn't even SPEAK to one another during working hours. Imagine that. The Fed is a bloodsucking corporation, like any other.
A much, MUCH better film than this is "The Corporation".
FTF is a good film, but I recommend it along with several books by Howard Zinn.
truth
this is not an absurd film.
THe person that said that is very ignorant.
And very ignorant to try and slander without evidence to the contrary.
Mr disinformer "Truth is stranger than fiction". What sounds strange or "absurd" is many times the TRUTH.
Google "federal reserve" private evil
Google Rothschild Rockefeller Buffett
Its plastered all over the internet.
Readers make up your own mind. This is the point.
Don't ever let someone pooh pooh something without investigating it for yourself.
A great person will tell you to make up your own mind but first look at the evidence.
Read this url: It is also in book form "The secrets of the federal reserve" by Eustace Mullins.
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm
The federal reserve is a private corporation.
Rockefeller and Rothschild are the main men in this ownership of the private federal reserve.
Their total wealth is 15 trillion and 100 trillion respectively.
Buffett and Gates are poor men compared to these guys.
Anon, I share your hatred
Anon, I share your hatred for the FED, banks and all corporations.
The film was just too simplistic.
Go read some history books :)
It'd be nice to be able to defer all your problems to a sinister sekret society or bank, but there are fundamental problems with wage-slavery and the state quite apart from the FED. You need only read late 19nth C history.
Does anyone know
Does anyone know of anyone or any sites that sell this on DVD or where it can be downloaded? I'm on a dial-up connection and I can't watch streaming video. I can download videos on Google video using Keepvid, but they can't be large files because you can't resume interrupted downloads using a download manager for Google video, as far as I know. Thanks.
Tax protestors
I warn people to not be fooled by Aaron Russo and other people in the tax protestor movement, and not associate it with 9/11 truth. PAY YOUR INCOME TAXES, you'll regret it if you dont.
Debunking of the standard tax protestor arguments listed in the movie:
http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html
LOL
Yeah, like im going to believe what some Reich Wing zealot says about taxes? ROTFL
http://evans-legal.com/dbe/thoughts.html
Dont think so.
What was said in the movie is 100% correct
Be objective
"Yeah, like im going to believe what some Reich Wing zealot says about taxes? ROTFL"
Dont "believe it", take a look at the arguments made in the FAQ and be objective; its blows away 90% of the tax protestor claims.
Is there a law requiring you to pay income tax?? YES!....its states so clearly in the Internal revenue code. Tax protestors make a fuss because it doesnt specify what type of "income"; but its legally sufficient, and there are many court cases establishing this. If you refuse to pay income taxes you will eventually be jailed like the rest of the tax protestors.
I cant stress enough that people should really look into things, before believing every conspiracy documentary. Not all conspiracy theories are legitamate (most arent), and the 9/11 truth movement needs to be sure to seperate itself from those that are unsubstantiated (moon landing hoaxers, holocaust denialism, tax protestor movement , ect, ect....)
Bull
Then list it right here, since you must be the only one on the planet that knows this law.
After a cursory examination of that page
I wonder, are ALL its arguments based on the 16th Amendment? Because the central argument of A:FTF is that the 16th Amendment was not, in fact, legally ratified.
Is there any debunking which does not rely on the 16th Amendment?
A cursory examination is not sufficient
"I wonder, are ALL its arguments based on the 16th Amendment? Because the central argument of A:FTF is that the 16th Amendment was not, in fact, legally ratified."
It addreses claims that the 16th Amendment wasnt properly ratified.
A:FTF does not claim the 16th wasn't ratified as only argument
In that film they tell us that the Supreme Court ruled on more than one occasion that the 16th Amendment does not give the Government the right to tax those that were not taxable before.
"you'll regret it".... Oh, the DOOM!
The question of ratification, in this case, is only a puny technical nothingness by comparison to the actual function of the income tax. Most people soundly versed on this topic do not care about the splinter of the 16th Amendment's questionable circumstances in its ratification. It can be considered or rationalized away as a clerical stumble, but the details suggest an intentional action ending in lawful failure to ratify. Personally, when it comes to something of such importance, I expect every "i" to be dotted and "t" crossed, every recording dully dated and so properly notarized....
However, like most CPAs and government sycophants, "Tax Supporters" seem to care less about such details same as their fuzzy understanding of the principals of taxation and it equitable application. Tax Supporters always have a hard time when we get down to the real grit. Their cognitive dissonance released into the room is actually palpable.
Pretend (if it makes you feel better) that the 16th is rock sold ratified... we'll move onto the definition of "income", the definition of "labor", the compliance of lower courts to the Supreme, and Supreme Court decisions (repeatedly) which find the 16th changing NOTHING about the Constitutional (and proper) limit of governments ability to tax direct and unapportioned. (AND WHY THAT IS AB INITIO)
What endlessly boggles my mind.... after hours and hours of trying to patiently explain how the income tax is NOT inline with law.... there are always endless hordes of bottom feeders who come along and carp incessantly about how "income tax is necessary, proper, good, indispensable, makes the world a better place,...." blah, blah blah bullshit. Even end at the beginning again with... "doesn't matter what the law says... it's still the law" completely oblivious to the fact that we just had a 10 hour discussion about the very law itself yet non of it seemed to matter because they will still parrot "you have to pay income tax, it says so in the tax code".
Such people are helpless maybe.... their ignorant sophistry defending their own enslavement is as despicable as the elite who've marketed the scam.
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"The truth shall make you free." Why not make the truth free? We live on a priceless blue pearl, awash in a universe of fire and ice. Cut the crap.
New link to "From Freedom to Fascism"
Hi all,
Looks like "From Freedom to Fascism" has been taken off Google Video.
I found a new link at: www.nw0.info A great site:
http://www.nw0.info/index.php?p=Documentaries/America%20Freedom%20to%20F...
Let's see how long it takes till it too is removed.
Another great video site with lots of 9/11- and Iraq War documentaries is:
http://www.jonhs.net/911 You guys at 911Blogger should really link to this site.
Check it out...
-Ali, From Denmark
Grab this Video Fast!!!!
Grab this one boys...it will be taken down soon!!
Is this down already?
I was watching it and still had about 15 minutes left and it stopped playing. When I refreshed it it said "We're sorry, but this video may not be available." Anyone else having this problem?
Yeah I can't access it.
Yeah I can't access it. Where did it gO!?
Russo mustve got wind of it.
Russo mustve got wind of it. Too bad. I just dont understand why it has taken so long to distribute
And why not in Seattle sept 29?
US Constitution changed by actions alone?
The Russo film is interesting but the very core of the issue is best stated by the Honorable James C. Fox, Senior US District Court Judge - Case: 03-CV-39 3/21/2003.
Pg 23 - Line 6
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COURT: " . . . you would find a sufficient number of states never ratified that amendment." (16th)
Pg 23 - Line 16
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COURT: ". . . correct in saying that actually the ratification never really properly occurred."
QUESTION: Can the Constitution be changed by actions alone?
ANSWER: Page 23 - Line 1
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COURT: ". . . history in fact does change the Constitution."
Forget not paying taxes (for now) but I ask – can history alone alter the US Constitution without amendment and ratification /// if so, how?
I would certainly like to have an explanation from a Juris Doctorate on how history changes the US Constitution.
Still in Theaters
Isn't the film still in US theaters? Or maybe it hasn't even opened yet. I don't live in the US - er, North American Union - so sorry if I don't have that info.
If you can't get to a theater and support the film that way (thus supporting in turn an official DVD release down the line), there are other ways to view it. A little searching for bittorrent shares turned it up very quickly.
This film
Will NEVER make it to US theaters in a regular theatrical release, maybe just a few scattered openings for one night or two, same as "9/11 Press for Truth".
The Neofascist will burn down any theater showing & promoting this film.
The best chance this film has is like Loose Change, downloaded for free and copied and handed out to as many as possible.
This film will have to be shown in other countries so that it becomes widely known and inescapable.
Make it so big that it would be like the MSM trying to deny that a Volcano that just erupted and totally destroyed 20 square miles around it and dumped ash over the entire US,~~didn't.