Daughter of 9/11 Flight Pilot Is Found Dead After a Fire


Five years after her father’s plane crashed into the Pentagon in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, a woman was found dead yesterday in a fire at the Galaxy Towers apartment complex in Guttenberg, N.J.

The woman, Wendy Burlingame, 32, was discovered by firefighters in a short hallway between the kitchen and the bedroom of her 10th-floor apartment where the four-alarm fire began, said Edward DeFazio, the Hudson County prosecutor. Mr. DeFazio said the fire, which law enforcement officials are calling suspicious, began shortly after midnight in the apartment Ms. Burlingame shared with her companion and was still under investigation, as was the cause of Ms. Burlingame’s death. No one else was injured in the fire, Mr. DeFazio said.

Ms. Burlingame was the daughter of Charles F. Burlingame III, a 25-year Navy veteran who was the captain of American Airlines Flight 77, which slammed into the Pentagon on Sept. 11., 2001, killing 189 people.

Mr. DeFazio said her companion of three years was among several people being interviewed in connection with her death. He would not identify the companion, but tenants in the complex identified him as Kevin Roderick.

Sebastian Rojas, 27, lives downstairs from Mr. Roderick. He said that while he did not know Mr. Roderick and Ms. Burlingame well, they were “real late-night people” whose footsteps, and two dogs, he heard constantly above his head.

The two dogs were also found dead in the home, Mr. DeFazio said.

Shortly before the fire erupted, Mr. Rojas said, there were “louder noises than usual” coming from the apartment upstairs, “like somebody running around up there, like somebody doing something up there in a rush.”

Then he said he heard a thud — “like somebody dropped something”— and three or four minutes later the building’s fire alarm sounded. Mr. Rojas said that within minutes his apartment filled with smoke. He then safely left the building.

Lucy Gell, who works at the building’s front desk, said that Ms. Burlingame was a kind, generous woman with “model good looks.” She added that Ms. Burlingame had brought her down a plate of turkey and mashed potatoes on Thanksgiving, saying that Mr. Roderick was out.

Debra A. Burlingame, Ms. Burlingame’s aunt, was reached at home last night before she even knew of her niece’s death. She burst into tears on the phone and would not comment further. Ms. Burlingame’s mother, Nancy Perfect, was also reached at home last night. She, too, declined to discuss her daughter’s death.


hmmm...was she about to

hmmm...was she about to talk?

could be...

"Dad, I know you said that you were going to be "disappearing" and that this was part of a special mission, but the more I learn about what you got yourself into, the more I think you should come forward."

"Look honey, I know this turned out to be a huge mistake, but you don't know who we're dealing with. I'm taking a risk even calling you--they follow us and listen to all our conversations. I don't want you to have to pay for a mistake I made, darling. I can't talk any more. Take care of yourself, and watch your back."

"I've been talking to some people Dad, they say they can protect you if you come forward and--Dad? Dad?! I smell smoke! Dad, are you there? Hello?"

That's the way the cookie crumbles, when you get mixed up with psychopaths and traitors.


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Who are you quoting there?

Who are you quoting there? Is that supposedly the lady who died in the fire? If so, how could she be speaking to her dad?By her smelling smoke, this implies that was the day of the fire? or was this a conversation before 911? If so, what was the smoke she smelled?


it's a hypothetical dramatization


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see, this is why people buy

see, this is why people buy into the official story.. people like redpill here who take everything literally..

redpill, you think he was actually quoting the woman??? jeeez..

No, its hard to tell if

No, its hard to tell if people are joking in text, and why joke about something like this, and I woner what idiots voted an honest question down, you all suck! No wonder it's so easy to infiltrate the truth movement!

If "you all suck" is the most intelligent

response you can contribute.
Why did you bother ?

Another tidbit

Keep in mind that Charles Burlingame worked at the Pentagon prior to accepting his job as a pilot.

and still another, didnt

and still another, didnt Burlingame take part in a military exercise that had to do with planes plowing into the Pentagon? i swear im right about this, somebody help me out.

blatantly obvious...

Oh, you're right alright.
There's just so much to name I try to keep it even simple sometimes.
Yes, Charles Burlingame was involved in Pentagon hijacking drills in which planes crashed into the Pentagon before accepting a job as a pilot and then crashing into the Pentagon himself.
Just sounds kinda crazy, doesn't it?
My question is this: There's no doubt they conducted drills at the Pentagon prior to 9/11 about planes crashing into the building. If they were doing drills (I'm assuming drills for the employees to know what to do in case of this event), then HOW IN THE WORLD could they not be ready for hijacked planes AN HOUR after the first plane slammed into the WTC?
What the hell were the drills for if they couldn't even get it right with at least an hour notice and hijacked planes in the air?
I can't believe how obvious this is...

The criminals behind 9/11 expected all the planes to hit....

....their targets at roughly the same time....that would give them the excuse for our Military not reacting with effective Air Defense....but, things went wrong with their plan....one plane was, I believe 41 minutes late leaving the gate, for instance....there is other evidence that other planes that were to be hijacked, never took place for whatever reason....

A lot of what we have (Mineta testimony, building 7, Shanksville) as evidence of government complicity is, IMO, from mistakes in execution of the plan that had to be taken care of on the fly.....

I don't wanna label

I don't wanna label everything a conspiracy, but fires in apartment buildings that big rarely gain enough power to kill anyone. I find it very suspect that it was specifically her place, and it was a big enough fire to trap and kill her. Maybe the building was old and not up to code, because the building I'm in will evacuate the entire complex if a tiny bit of smoke is detected anywhere. Bottom line is that unless it's blatant arson, a modern apartment complex can't be damaged by fire in a significant way.

its also very suspect that

its also very suspect that it happened to be 1.a pilots daughter and 2.that pilot happened to be on the most shady flight of all(though some would say 93 is). i have always said to watch the victims families of the people who were on the planes. its very important that we pick up on stuff like this because there is a conspicuous lack of information known about most of them. also an obvious lack of coverage on the part of the MSM. wonder why?

she was either murdered or she faked her death (to join daddy)

They must have a leper colony somewhere where they all go to hide out and live large... time will tell. for now just classify it as suspicious...


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That's very irresponsible

I agree that we must watch the families closely.

But, for you to flat out declare her murdered is irresponsible and one of the reasons we always get labeled "conspiracy theorists."

You just have no evidence to justify this claim.

Irresponsible describes the apathy that we're fighting against.

I am not a journalist or a detective--if they would do their jobs I would not be in the position to make tehse outrageous claims. I am a social critic and as such can interpret facts as I see fit. You are more than welcome to disagree and call me whatever you want. As far as hurting the movement, that one is really wearing thin. It's not what I do here that helps or hurts the movement, it's what I do in real life. For example, leaving 9/11 truth materials outside the classroom where Ernest May, senior adviser to the 9/11 Commission was teaching. Out of about 25 pices, only two were left last I checked. At lunchtime I had the opportunity to chat with a student who was very interested in my work as a truth activist--he said he had long been suspicious and understood that the issue was too big and explosive to expect it would be willingly acknowledged by the bigwigs at Harvard.

Needless to say once the Harvard campus starts openly debating the issue it will be over big time for the perps. Not only is this place a corridor for the rich and powerful but the world watches Harvard and pays attention to what happens here. Yesterday Christine Todd Whitman spoke at the Institute of Politics and today she had a Pizza and Politics event with students. One day people like her will be forced to answer hard questions in order to pad their resumés with stints as Harvard "fellows".

Anyway back to the point--the plane families must be kept an eye on. While I'm not entirely convinced that ALL the flights were fake, I believe at least two of them were and suspect the other two.

9/11 Truth means 9/11 "the whole truth and nothing but the" Truth. It's not our job to be fair, it's our job to raise awareness, and if controversy does that, then controversial I shall be!


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She's already been proven to be a liar

by her agency's own inspector geenral. She lied about a matter that will affect the health of thousands and kill many. What does it say about Harvard and its Institute of Politics that she is invited to speak?

If hard questions are not asked about this, will they ever?

yes, they will.

Once enough people know, something will happen. Right now they get away with being brazen because a) not that many people know how damning the evidence is and b) those who do don't see enough support around them to come forward. I'm trying to change that, and frankly I'm succeeding to some degree. But I have no illusions about it being quick or easy. Letters could be sent to the Harvard Crimson (the student paper) and/or posted to any number of Harvard blogs asking why they don't mention anything about her lying. I can't do it all myself! This place is worth pushing--people will follow its lead. HELP! start here:


and tell them what you think about their "Garden State Trooper" cover girl.

Then you might email Derek Bok, the President of Harvard, and ask him about Ernest May teaching discredit theories to freshmen: derek_bok@harvard.edu

If they don't hear complaints, why wouldn't they think they can get away with it?


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to join Daddy

dude, that"s funny shit.....leper colony = French Riviera, Tuscany, The Islands, hell, Miami for christ sakes...nobody knows what these people look like....i could run into Daddy Burlingame in the mens room and wouldn't have a clue. It's far easier than people realize to assume a new identity. It's intel 101 baby. Have you ever seen Mark Binghams mom on TV? Holy shit she's like a robot. Hey real twoofer, keep up the excellent posts, we've been enjoying them.

my pleasure

Yeah, Mark Bingham's mom looks like she's been sniffing airplane glue to remember her son. Actually she was probably doing that before, which is why he had to explain WHICH Mark was calling her that day. You BELIEVE me don't you mom?

SNIFF SNIFF Uhhhhh Mark whozamawhat?? oh you're the one with the tight buns!! yeah, what's that about islamowhat? be careful, son... hic!


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Nice. Care to insult any

Nice. Care to insult any other victim of 9/11?

strange indeed -

Tuesday, December 05, 2006

High-rise fire kills one in Guttenberg
A four-alarm fire ripped through a 10th-floor apartment at the massive Galaxy Towers complex in Guttenberg early this morning, killing one woman, officials said.

The preliminary investigation into the fire indicates that the victim's boyfriend was able to escape the flames, but it's unlcear why the girlfirend could not, fire department officials said.

North Hudson Regional Fire and Rescue fought the flames, which broke out around 12:30 a.m. and was under control by about 3:30 a.m. The Jersey City Fire Department assisted, according to NHRFR co-director Jeff Welz.

The building's fire-proof design prevented the flames from spreading, Welz said, but also produced roughly 800-degree temperatures in the hallway outside the unit and blinding smoke.

The identity of the victim has not been released.

Jarrett Renshaw 




Situated atop the Palisade Cliffs and offering a spectacular skyline view of Manhattan and environs, the Galaxy was designed and is managed so as to afford a unique self-contained elegant style of urban living, with complete Spa, shops, restaurants, movie theatre and a wide array of recreational activities.



It is no coincidence that the Galaxy is noted for the extraordinarily high degree of security and safety provided to its residents.

  • Other than by people who live here, access to the residential portions of our Complex can be attained only through the lobbies, which are manned 24 hours per day.
  • We maintain a large security staff, likewise providing 24 hours monitoring and patrols.
  • Each apartment has an intercom connection to the Concierge desk.
  • Each apartment has an intrusion alarm system. Once activated, any unauthorized entry would result simultaneously in the emission of a loud signal in the apartment and a signal to the Concierge, who would then immediately contact Security.


The happy fact that we have never had any significant fire, fire damage or fire-related injury is no doubt attributable to the combined effect of the manner in which the Galaxy was constructed (concrete floors and ceilings) and numerous protective devices/precautions which include:

  • Smoke detectors in every apartment.
  • Availability of small portable fire extinguishers from the GTCA at cost.
  • Smoke detectors in elevator vestibules.
  • Fire alarms/loudspeakers adjacent to apartments on every floor.
  • Sprinkler system in compactor rooms and compactor chutes.
  • Periodic fire drills or alarm tests conducted by the Guttenberg Fire Department in conjunction with our own Facilities and Safety Committee.


Wow, that was a very SAFE, SECURE, building! Makes her death

even more suspicious!

Marketing = Truth

Yes. As we all know, corporations never lie in their marketing materials.

Ummm....sounds like a pretty

Ummm....sounds like a pretty high end luxury apartment complex with all sorts of things to keep it from burning to the ground. You can't lie about things like fire safety, pal.


> i have always said to watch the victims families of the people who were on the planes

Excellent idea, Chris! How about starting with the family of Daniel Lewin:


Besides being a multimillionaire, he was...

"raised in Jerusalem, where he served for four years in the Israel Defence Forces. He was
an officer in Sayeret Matkal, an elite and secretive counter-terrorism unit."

"Lewin is survived by his wife and two sons."

Lewin was killed aboard American Airlines Flight 11

And don't forget to check out the info about Sayeret Matkal:


what happens when the shit hits the fan...


1) The day after Fetzer quoted Mineta's testimony on Hannity & Colmes, Mineta resigned.

2) The day after the Doubletree-Pentagon video was released, Charles Burlingame's daughter
died under suspicious circumstances. (I just hope the coroner is not paid off or threatened
for what he puts in his autopsy report.)

Has anyone noticed any similar correlations between the release of information and seemingly
related events occurring immediately afterwards?

yes, it's meant to read like a script.

which leads me to believe that we should not jump to the pbvious conclusion, that these are knee-jerk responses, but that these events are timed in order to provoke a certain conclusion to be drawn. I think she faked her death. I don't think Mineta faked his resignation but I think that that was more about drawing attention to his testimony about 30 miles out, etc. which serves to support the official account (the incompetence or stand down version) and try to discredit the truth (77 did not hit the Pentagon).


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Which is it?

First you suggested that her father was alive, and telling her not to come forward, so she was killed.

Now you are saying she faked his death.

Did I miss something?

He's saying she faked her

He's saying she faked her own death and he faked his death. Why he's saying this I don't have a clue. Maybe he's just saying it because it's patently offensive?

You think she faked her own

You think she faked her own death. Is there anything you wouldn't believe in order to support your theory?

But remember

Mineta's actual resignation letter is dated 2 days prior to Fetzers appearance on H & C. No dis to Fetz, he was great ...just an FYI. Of course that date could have easily been altered. Mineta needs to explain himself, he's our first
witness at the trial.

That's very interesting..

That's very interesting..

The official story is that

The official story is that Lewin was killed by the "Arab" hijackers on the flight. But like most elements of the official story, it does not accord with the evidence. Stewardess Betty Ong reported that one of the hijackers came from seat 9B. That was Lewin's seat. She also reported an injured passenger in seat 10B. That was Satam al Suqami's seat. Somehow the authorities used this evidence to declare that Suqami had shot Lewin! Then they changed their story and decided Lewin had been stabbed-- once they realized guns were not supposed to be part of the official story.

It is far more likely that Lewin was the gunman on FL11, and the other "Arabs" were actually Israeli commandos who had assumed the identities of the Arab patsies. The phone calls then reported the hijackers as "middle eastern looking." What a great way to frame Israel's Arab enemies.

The question is, could the commando-hijackers have then parachuted out of the planes to safety? None of the crash scenes has produced a number of bodies equal to the number of persons on the plane.


That's a great idea. And

That's a great idea. And while we're watching Lewin's family, let's watch for Danny himself, since he may have been one of the hijackers of FL11and may be alive and well today, sunning himself on a Haifa beach.

Perhaps, but setting fires

Perhaps, but setting fires to cover up other crimes is a time-honored technique of intelligence services and other forms of organized crime. How is it that she didn't escape?

Not to be too speculative...but...isn't it possible that she's been exposed to some truther information (videos, online) and has put a few things together in the backstory? It could be coincidence, of course, but I am immediately suspicious of any "accidents" involving 9/11 people who may have something to spill.

correct, and in each case the question is...

Did they pull a Ken Lay and fake their death to avoid prosecution for something?

Or were they "silenced" for threatening to leak something about the crimes?


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There was a publisher of the

There was a publisher of the Washington Magazine (i think thats the name - 100year old mag) who was missing in the Chesapeake this summer. His body was later found tied to some kind of anchor with a shotgun wound to the head...

Ruled a suicide...



source : http://blog.washingtonpost.com/rawfisher/2006/06/phil_merrill_and_the_va...

I first got to know Merrill when I was stationed in Germany as bureau chief for the Post; part of the gig was covering NATO and European-American defense and alliance issues. Merrill showed up at NATO headquarters as assistant secretary general of the alliance, an appointee of the first Bush administration. He started calling me to comment on my stories, and before long, we discovered that we had attended the same high school (though decades apart) and that we were both New York City kids who couldn't quite take entirely seriously the diplomats and military folks who were at work shaping the post-Soviet world.

Merrill--my high school alumni directory says he changed his name at some point from Philip Levine to Philip Merrill-- became a helpful source during a time of great tension over German unification and U.S.-Soviet relations in the final months of the Soviet Union. He had a delicious way of cutting through the self-important secrecy that diplomats and military people use to keep their work one step removed from the understanding and knowledge of the general public. And he loved to gossip.

When I visited him in Brussels and later saw him in Washington, I glimpsed another side of his personality--the part that reminded me of visiting the Yankee Stadium offices of George Steinbrenner. The mere rumor of his impending arrival was enough to send mere mortals scurrying to make sure everything was as the boss wanted it. Some thought him imperious, others found his shtick amusing. Merrill reminded me of other kids at our school in the Bronx, smart kids who were taught to follow their interests wherever they might lead, kids whose teachers incessantly drilled into them the idea that they were destined to run things.

Merrill could be absent-minded to the extreme, yet detail-obsessed as well. Just when he appeared to be clueless about something, he would pop in with a comment that showed he knew the topic frighteningly well.

Funny you should mention Ken

Funny you should mention Ken Lay. I found it highly suspect when he "died". The man could have brought down a lot of other people. I was thinking if he actually did die he might have been killed to silence him and to put pressure on Skilling to keep him from talking(Skilling handled the accounting if I',m recalling correctly which would make him a HUGE asset for those commiting fraud. They could have killed him too but what if they need him or wish to use his expertise more....). Do you have any other info on Ken Lay's death? Please post if so. That @!#$# deserved some jailhouse gang banging for his crimes against all of Enron's employees and the American public.

I find this death to be extremely suspicious. It needs a real

investigation, including the huge 9/11 aspects!

This reminds me of Guiliani's former press aide who was

found strangled some months ago in his opulent, doorman NYC apartment building. (All twenty (20) of the building's security cameras were said to be broken at the time of the incident!)

Yes, lets keep a running list of suspicious 9/11 deaths....

BTW, what ever happened to the murder investigation of the Clemson student, Michael Zebuhr, who was a member of Scholars that was killed in front of his mom & sister while back home on break in Minnesota...was that ever solved?

I guess Hunter S Thompson might have to go on that list, although that is debatable...

Excellent suggestion

Don’t forget Nancy Sonnenfeld, wife of FEMA photographer Kurt Sonnenfeld, who was mysteriously “suicided” in Denver CO on 1/1/02.
Kurt was suspected in her death, jailed for a few months and released. He fled to Argentina where he's been continuously harassed (apparently by U.S. officials) and is seeking political asylum there. He may have incriminating evidence about 9/11.
Anyone have any more info on this?

Side note, my 2 cents.

It's beyond me why Hunter S Thompson would take his own life, but he was in a house full of people and had been on the phone with his wife right before he died. In my mind, it seems impossible that he died my any other hand than his own. Sometimes we all make rash choices. 1/2 the time we regret it later. In Hunter's case, he couldn't regret it.

Yeah, I guess, on balance, I tend to lean that....

... it might've been a real suicide.......but he was reportedly working on 9/11 material at the time.

On a side note, he reportedly had ties to the Franklin Cover-up and developments were happening around that case at the time with regard to a photographer involved, as well, I believe...

i probably shouldn't have mentioned his name for this list.

Interesting topic, altruist.

There's a lot of people who think our government would never intentionally kill it's own people ... so maybe I'm in that group when it comes to Hunter. But there were a good number of people making Truth statements more publically at the time of Hunter's death. Are they dead? Who knows?

You make a good point about the child sex ring Hunter was investigating. But, let's be honest, he was a well known drug user. Couldn't the government have just spinned that point? Did the Foley scandal really make that much headway? Like wise the sweatshop/forced abortion Abramoff scandal? Did that register in the minds of the people? It just seems to diversionary to put 911 Truth into the same catagory as Hunter S Thompson's death.

It's not diversionary

It's not diversionary considering Thompson was working on a story about the WTC collapse. google it.

Hunter Thompson is on the

Hunter Thompson is on the record as stating on a radio show that if he was "...taken out they would make it look like a suicide". Just do a google search on something like "hunter thompson suicide radio interview". I can't recall what the radio station was that interviewed him. At first I thought it was suicide because of his interest in people like Hemingway. However I later heard him saying this on the radio and at this point I was finally aware about the possibility of an inside job. Now I seriously question his death. There were some questionable issues related to the gun that was supposedly used and his family members are on record as saying he was mentally fine even though he had undergone hip surgery. Besides it was Hunter Thompson. If he was gonna go I would expect him to overdose on some fun drugs rather than shoot himself in the middle of a conversation with his wife. Long live his gonzoness

Someone, perhaps someone

Someone, perhaps someone associated with 911blogger should start a website called something like 911TruthBodyCount. There are similar documented body count lists on the web for the JFK assassination, the Bush Cabal, and the Clinton administration.

There are also a fairly large number of mysterious deaths connected with the Waco debacle and the OKC bombing, to say nothing of the many who are falsely imprisoned and who have lost their jobs, their material resources and their families.

911 was a Brotherhood of Darkness false flag terrorism event perpetrated by rogue elements in the top levels of the US government. The public in-our-faces nature of 9-11, just like the other events, is a message to us telling us who is boss and telling us to keep our mouths shut.

We must expose deeds of darkness to be best of our ability. We need to all contribute names that we know about of related suspicious deaths since he 9-11 . We are dealing with EVIL personified.

The corruption in our whole US federal apparatus is so grossly corrupt and has so long operated only within the bribery-blackmail-extortion matrix that all we can do is do the best job we can of exposing this EVIL.

Blessings from Dachsie in Austin.

Yes, & the 25+ bio-chemists that were dead in the months after

the anthrax murders!

2 more facts from the NY Daily News:

Neighbors said Burlingame moved into the apartment overlooking the Hudson River about a month ago. Roderick escaped the fire.

Roderick got out, & they had just moved in a month ago

Some more suspcious details here:

The fire apparently started in Wendy Burlingame's bedroom sometime before midnight Monday, investigators said. She lived in a 10th-floor apartment in a 44-story building, one of three high-rises in the Galaxy Towers complex.

Burlingame and her boyfriend, whose name was not released, apparently attempted to use water from a sink to put it out, but with smoke billowing and the fire surging, they abandoned their efforts and fled, the boyfriend told fire investigators.

The boyfriend made it out, then realized Burlingame wasn't behind him, but because the front door closed and locked behind him, he couldn't get back inside, he said.

The boyfriend apparently did not call 911. The building resident assigned as fire warden for the night went to investigate a fire alarm around midnight, just as firefighters were arriving, and found the man outside the door, visibly shaken. The fire warden took him outside as firefighters rushed in to put out the blaze, reports said.

What do you want to bet we see....

...a Law & Order episode (original series) based on this in a few months....?

She was found in the hallway

She was found in the hallway and this guy on the other side of the only exit of the appartment, WTF?

that sounds like total

that sounds like total bullcrap. why would he leave without her? why wouldnt he break down the freakin door?

What kind of a boyfriend

What kind of a boyfriend gets his ass out of a fire before making sure his woman is out first?? Keep in mind folks this could have just been a domestic dispute and the boyfriend could have fought with her and then set the place on fire to cover up a physical fight. It's happened before.

Some more suspcious details here:

The fire apparently started in Wendy Burlingame's bedroom sometime before midnight Monday, investigators said. She lived in a 10th-floor apartment in a 44-story building, one of three high-rises in the Galaxy Towers complex.

Burlingame and her boyfriend, whose name was not released, apparently attempted to use water from a sink to put it out, but with smoke billowing and the fire surging, they abandoned their efforts and fled, the boyfriend told fire investigators.

The boyfriend made it out, then realized Burlingame wasn't behind him, but because the front door closed and locked behind him, he couldn't get back inside, he said.

The boyfriend apparently did not call 911. The building resident assigned as fire warden for the night went to investigate a fire alarm around midnight, just as firefighters were arriving, and found the man outside the door, visibly shaken. The fire warden took him outside as firefighters rushed in to put out the blaze, reports said.

We should also consider the

We should also consider the possibility that Burlingame was merely taking part in one of the hijacking "war games" that day and was not aware it was about to go live. In this scenario he would have been killed like the rest.

As for the daughter, if she was whacked this should be a lesson to everyone in the military with inside information. Remain silent -- and you could be next.

Well if this was a murder,

Well if this was a murder, lets see the true lesson.

If you have information that is damaging to the perps of 9/11, remaining silent will make you a target. By telling what you DO know all they can do is deny your claim, you are no longer a threat.

Life > Pension 

Wendy was well aware of Loose Change


Hmmmm...makes one wonder if she began to "wonder"

Show "maybe she killed herself.. " by Anonymous (not verified)

why the negative points??

why the negative points?? it's a legitimate theory - she was probably depressed and was constantly reminded of her fathers lost... don't just assume you guys know what you think you know.. he very well could be dead.

trust me, i'm no troll, i think it was an inside job and just throwing out possibilities..

if that post is legit...

It would indicate that she faked her death, as she seemed to be playing along with the game up until a few months ago. In fact, if that post is legit she would have every reason to want to fake her death since it makes her complicit in the coverup and thus an accessory after the fact to mass murder. Ouch.


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A woman has, as far as you

A woman has, as far as you know, just been killed in a fire. She has possibly been murdered. Your response is to suggest that she's complicit in mass murderer and that she faked her own death.

Do you have no sense of decency?

That WendyB's IP came from the UK, home of

professional 9/11 debunking agents.

dylan avery Posted: Dec 6 2006

interesting enough, those posts came from the United Kingdom. was Wendy in the UK during July, 2006?


Focus on the botched crash scene at Shanksville.

many forums default to 0 GMT

many forums default to 0 GMT and you have to change it manually. not sure about those particular forums though...


Anyone else pick up on those?



Keep it clean

Although I appreciate your interest in the circumstances of the fire, at this stage the larger part of the story is still unclear. I would strongly prefer that any speculation is kept within certain limits of decency, if it wasn't just for the reason alone to spike the 'debunkers' (sorry, no other word) to use such comments to discredit the 911 truth effort as a whole.

Perception is reality, so please be respectful to the victim and relatives.

"Sebastian Rojas, 27, lives

"Sebastian Rojas, 27, lives downstairs from Mr. Roderick. He said that while he did not know Mr. Roderick and Ms. Burlingame well, they were “real late-night people” whose footsteps, and two dogs, he heard constantly above his head."

that's a prime suspect right there..

I don't think hearing

I don't think hearing footsteps of your neighbors is motive for arson of the space Directly above you.  If anyone he is the last person to be a suspect.

#1 He already lived in the apartment.

#2 He lives right under the place which burned. 

well, "late night people"

well, "late night people" with a couple dogs would piss me off after a few nights... that's my point, it's kinda tongue in cheek comment..

it was funny


Suspect Boyfriend

I don't know about you, but if I was in an Apt that caught on fire and my girlfriend was in it, I'd make sure she got out before me so there would be no chance of "accidentally" closing and locking the door on here.

Focus on the botched crash scene at Shanksville.

I'd like to think I'd act that way

No doubt a stupid question, but I didn't find this in the FAQ or other sections: how does this "points" thing (0 points, 1 point, -1 points...) work? Who gives the points? I can't give points to anyone's comment.

Voting/Points/Comment Rating

Do you see a light gray up arrow/down arrow box along the left border of the comment (inside the box)? You click on the appropriate one. Occasionally, there is a brief lag before your vote is recorded. All registered users who are logged in should be able to use this feature. Otherwise, email dz.

I see it now

Thanks. I didn't notice the grey arrows against the almost equally grey background...

So, if just three users vote down one's comment, it goes "below viewing threshold"...

I believe the ranking system

I believe the ranking system uses AJAX (use of asynchronous communication between the browser and web server via javascript and XML).

So if you have javascript disabled for this domain (911blogger) it shouldn't work for you. 


"Focus on the botched crash scene at Shanksville."

Shanksville will never be figured out on its own. It should NOT be the focus. Better to direct people to the collapse of WTC building 7 and the need for a new investigation ... perhaps the truth about Shanksville will rise from that. It seems odd to me that you are focused on a crime thathas almost no evidence, rather than focussing on the bigger picture.

WTC 7 & Shankville crater are our BEST evidence

but I think Shankville is even better to prove a conspiracy cause I'm confident I've shown no large plane caused that crater quite convincingly:


Focus on the botched crash scene at Shanksville.

have you found any photos of

have you found any photos of that area from the days immediately preceeding 9/11?

Yes, see my sig link

And go to the photo gallery.

And just posted this short clip of crater the day of:


Focus on the botched crash scene at Shanksville.

Wendy's apartment complex "never" had fire related incident

Fire Safety / Detection

"There has never been a fire related incident in the history of the Galaxy. There are smoke detectors in every apartment and small portable fire extinguishers are available. Fire alarms, sprinkler systems and periodic fire drills and alarm testing, all add to your safety." - Riverfrontrealty.com


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Here's a little something her aunt wrote:

I especially appreciate the part about planes cutting through hard steel and concrete like a knife through butter.


On a Wing and a Prayer
Grievance theater at Minneapolis International Airport.

Wednesday, December 6, 2006 12:01 a.m.

Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Those are the words that started it all. Six bearded imams are said to have shouted them out while offering evening prayers as they and 141 other passengers waited at the gate for their flight out of Minneapolis International Airport. It was three days before Thanksgiving. Allahu Akbar: God is great.

Initial media reports of the incident did not include the disturbing details about what happened after they boarded US Airways flight 300, but the story quickly went national with provocative headlines: "Six Muslims Ejected from US Air Flight for Praying." Yes, they were praying--but let's be clear about this. The very last human sound on the cockpit voice recorder of United flight 93 before it screamed into the ground at 580 miles per hour is the sound of male voices shouting "Allahu Akbar" in a moment of religious ecstasy.

They, too, were praying. The passengers and crew of flight 93 lost their valiant fight to take back the plane just one hour and 20 minutes after it pushed back from the gate. Until the hijackers stormed the cockpit door, they were just a handful of Middle Eastern-looking men on their way to sunny California. So, yes, let's be exceedingly clear about the whole matter. Some 3,000 men, women and children are dead because the unassuming people on those airplanes did not look at them and see murderers. Or dangerous Arabs. Or fanatical Muslims. They saw a few guys in chinos.

In five years since the 9/11 attacks, U.S. commercial carriers have transported approximately 2.9 billion domestic and international passengers. It is a testament to the flying public, but, most of all, to the flight crews who put those planes into the air and who daily devote themselves to the safety and well-being of their passengers, that they have refused to succumb to ethnic hatred, religious intolerance or irrational fear on those millions of flights. But they have not forgotten the sight of a 200,000-pound aircraft slicing through heavy steel and concrete as easily as a knife through butter. They still remember the voices of men and women in the prime of their lives saying final goodbyes, people who just moments earlier set down their coffee and looked out the window to a beautiful new morning. Today, when travelers and flight crews arrive at the airport, all the overheated rhetoric of the civil rights absolutists, all the empty claims of government career bureaucrats, all the disingenuous promises of the election-focused politicians just fall away. They have families. They have responsibilities. To them, this is not a game or a cause. This is real life.

Given that Islamic terrorists continue their obsession with turning airplanes into weapons of mass destruction, it is nothing short of obscene that these six religious leaders--fresh from attending a conference of the North American Imams Federation, featuring discussions on "Imams and Politics" and "Imams and the Media"--chose to turn that airport into a stage and that airplane into a prop in the service of their need for grievance theater. The reality is, these passengers endured a frightening 3 1/2-hour ordeal, which included a front-to-back sweep of the aircraft with a bomb-sniffing dog, in order to advance the provocative agenda of these imams in, of all the inappropriate places after 9/11, U.S. airports.

"Allahu Akbar" was just the opening act. After boarding, they did not take their assigned seats but dispersed to seats in the first row of first class, in the midcabin exit rows and in the rear--the exact configuration of the 9/11 execution teams. The head of the group, seated closest to the cockpit, and two others asked for a seatbelt extension, kept on board for obese people. A heavy metal buckle at the end of a long strap, it can easily be used as a lethal weapon. The three men rolled them up and placed them on the floor under their seats. And lest this entire incident be written off as simple cultural ignorance, a frightened Arabic-speaking passenger pulled aside a crew member and translated the imams' suspicious conversations, which included angry denunciations of Americans, furious grumblings about U.S. foreign policy, Osama Bin Laden and "killing Saddam."

Predictably, these imams and their attorneys now suggest that another passenger who penned a frantic note of warning and slipped it to a flight attendant was somehow a hysterical Islamophobe. Let us remember that but for their performance at the gate this passenger might never have noticed these men or their behavior on board, much less have the slightest clue as to their religion or political passions. Of course, that was the point of the shouting. According to the police report, yet another alarmed passenger who frequently travels to the Middle East described a conversation with one of the imams. The 31-year-old Egyptian expressed fundamentalist Muslim views, and stated the he would go to whatever measures necessary to obey all the tenets set out in the Koran.

The activist Muslim American Society (MAS) issued a press release within hours of the incident, demanding an apology and announcing a "pray-in" at Reagan National Airport in Washington, D.C. Standing just a short distance from the Pentagon, where five years ago black plumes of smoke from the crash of American Airlines flight 77 could be seen for miles, the assembled demonstrators complained that African-American Muslims, accustomed to "driving while black," must now cope with the injustice of "flying while Muslim." This brazen two-step is racial politics at its worst; none of the imams are African-American. MAS, which teaches an "Activist Training" program with lessons on "how to talk to the media," must have been thrilled when one cable news outfit, suckered by the rhetoric, compared the imams' conduct to that of civil rights icon Rosa Parks, who refused to give up her bus seat in the face of institutional racism. One wonders what the parents of the three 11-year-olds who died on flight 77--all African-American kids on a National Geographic field trip--would make of this stunning comparison.

Today, MAS Executive Director Mahdi Bray says his organization wants more than an apology. He wants to "hit [US Airways] where it hurts, the pocketbook," and, joined by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), will seek compensation for the imams, civil and federal monetary sanctions, and new, sweeping legislation that will extract even bigger penalties for airlines that engage in "racial and religious profiling." An investigation by the Department of Homeland Security's Office of Civil Rights and Civil Liberties is under way. Not incidentally, it is the "fatwa department" of MAS that pushed for segregated taxi lines that would permit Muslim cab drivers at the Minneapolis airport to reject passengers carrying alcohol.

Here's what the flying public needs to know about airplanes and civil rights: Once your foot traverses the entranceway of a commercial airliner, you are no longer in a democracy in which everyone gets a vote and minority rights are affirmatively protected in furtherance of fuzzy, ever-shifting social policy. Ultimately, the responsibility for your personal safety and security rests on the shoulders of one person, the pilot in command. His primary job is to safely transport you and your belongings from one place to another. Period.

This is the doctrine of "captain's authority." It has a longstanding history and a statutory mandate, further strengthened after 9/11, which recognizes that flight crews are our last line of defense between the kernel of a terrorist plot and its lethal execution. The day we tell the captain of a commercial airliner that he cannot remove a problem passenger unless he divines beyond question what is in that passenger's head and heart is the day our commercial aviation system begins to crumble. When a passenger's conduct is so disturbing and disruptive that reasonable, ordinary people fear for their lives, the captain must have the discretionary authority to respond without having to consider equal protection or First Amendment standards about which even trained lawyers with the clarity of hindsight might strongly disagree. The pilot in command can't get it wrong. At 35,000 feet, when multiple events are rapidly unfolding in real time, there is no room for error.

We have a new, inviolate aviation standard after 9/11, which requires that the captain cannot take that airplane up so long as there are any unresolved issues with respect to the security of his airplane. At altitude, the cockpit door is barred and crews are instructed not to open them no matter what is happening in the cabin behind them. This is an extremely challenging situation for the men and women who fly those planes, one that those who write federal aviation regulations and the people who agitate for more restrictions on a captain's authority will never have to face themselves.

Likewise, flight attendants are confined in the back of the plane with upwards of 200 people; they must be the eyes and ears, not just for the pilot but for us all. They are not combat specialists, however, and to compel them to ignore all but the most unambiguous cases of suspicious behavior is to further enable terrorists who act in ways meant to defy easy categorization. As the American Airlines flight attendants who literally jumped on "shoe bomber" Richard Reid demonstrated, cabin crews are sharply attuned to unusual or abnormal behavior and they must not be second-guessed, or hamstrung by misguided notions of political correctness.

Ultimately, the most despicable aspect about the imams' behavior is that when they pierced the normally quiet hum of a passenger waiting area with shouts of "Allahu Akbar"and deliberately engaged in terrorist-associated behavior that was sure to trigger suspicion, they exploited the fear that began with the Sept. 11 attacks. The imams, experienced travelers all, counted on the security system established after 9/11 to kick in, and now they plan not only to benefit financially from the proper operation of that system but to substantially weaken it--with help from the Saudi-endowed attorneys at CAIR.

US Airways is right to stand by its flight crew. It will be both dangerous and disgraceful if the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Transportation and, ultimately, our federal courts allow aviation security measures put in place after 9/11 to be cynically manipulated in the name of civil rights.

Ms. Burlingame, a director of the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation, is the sister of Charles F. "Chic" Burlingame III, the pilot of American Airlines flight 77, which was crashed into the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001.

Butterplane reference!

"But they have not forgotten the sight of a 200,000-pound aircraft slicing through heavy steel and concrete as easily as a knife through butter."

Focus on the botched crash scene at Shanksville.

Her boyfriend was an Army veteran

Not making this up:



" A month ago, Burlingame, 33, picked up stakes, sold her lucrative online dating service in Pittsburgh and moved to New Jersey to live with her long-time boyfriend, Kevin Roderick, relatives said.

Roderick, an Army veteran, escaped unscathed when the deadly blaze broke out in the bedroom at 12:03 a.m." - NY Post (12/06/06) 



Focus on the botched crash scene at Shanksville.

I know, but I did read elsewhere that he was an on-again,

off-again boyfriend. I wonder how long she knew him?

The part about him leaving her behind in the apartment, and the door locking him out is really bizarre! An army guy no less.

The entire story sounds extremely suspicious to me.

Yes, "on & off" and former fiance

and she'd only been there a month with him. Also remember about a month ago the Doubletree video was about to be released when the FBI suddenly granted themselves an extention to be released Dec 22, but video was released 20 days early and then 3 days after that the Flight 77 pilot's daughter dies in a "suspicious" apt fire.


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Who is the boyfriend, then?

Im sure I read that the bf was of 3 years. Long enough for a undercover agent to forumlate a relationship and keep tabs on what shes doing? I think a viable hypothesis at this point is that:

- The 'ex army' guy is assigned to keep watch on her by way of being her 'on again off again bf'. She suggests marriage, which obviously cant happen, but closesness between them remains

- She becomes involved, somehow, in closer examination of the anomalies surrounding her fathers death, and the army guy reports this back to her superiors.

- The superiors decide that, considering her notable status of pilots daugter, its too dangerous for her to be involved now that shes questioning 9/11 - particularly since the doubletree video has just been released and she might get a news interview of some sort where she could voice her opinions

- So the bf is instructed to 'accident' her.

Couldn't kick down door?....

Couldn't kick down door?.... Army Man... couldn't break a door.... didn't call 911?
Tried to put out fire?
Left before his girlfriend?

Personally...if I were attempting to put out a fire and my girl was helping.... I'd tell her to call 911 as she left the building while I attempted to put it out.

and if she was somehow trapped behind a locked door.... and I thought there was any chance of saving her.... that door would be coming down

But this sounded like a very quick and powerful fire.... unusually powerful..

Autopsy should show wether she was breathing when she was consumed by fire.... might want to check the dogs as well.

When people get wacked... their dogs usually get it too

Wendy Pattavina holds her son, Jack, at Arlington Cemetery

Charles F. Burlingame's daughter Wendy

Pattavina holds her son, Jack, at Arlington Cemetery.

Strange to go back to a maden name with a child. The report names her Burlingame. what's up with that... weird. So she divorcedwith Child, where was her Boy Jack.

The are more excellent posts re: Wendy Burlingame here in the

Did Flight 77 really exist on 9/11/01 ???

I seem to recall seeing something that indicated that American Airlines did not have Flight 77 on it schedule for 9/11/2001.

What easier way to make a airplane disappear than not to have one at all ?

Faked passenger lists & crew are easy. Make them an offer they can't refuse. Ever hear of the witness protection program ?

Flight recorders and Transponders can be created with any aircraft. All that is necessary is a "Code" number input which is manual.

"Falsehood is never so successful as when she baits her hook with truth and no opinions so fatally mislead us as those that are not wholly wrong." - Charles Caleb Colton

Seriously.... For all we


For all we know.... these people are being held in one of our several secret prisons around the world.

We have secret CIA Prisons!... how sick is this?.... they could have anyone there and we may never know.... we may never even know that any one these prisons even exist... we could know about 50 of them yet be totally unaware of 50 more!

With the resources at their diposal.... $$$ talks the same as it shuts some people up!!

How much $$$ do you think it takes to buy the loyalty of an impoverished nation and it's people... people who could care less about the US or it's people.

and you wouldn't need to buy them all..... Hell... these people could be held with-in our own country and we wouldn't even know.... Betty Ong could be someones sex slave and we wouldn't ever know

If these people did kill 3,000 people and destroy major landmarks in the process.... what do you think they are not capable of? Especially with the resources at their disposal... coupled with the ignorance and support of their people.

With their resources... they could have launched these people into the deep recesses of space.

I wonder if they bring in

a paid off coroner?
Like the so called coroner responsible for the WTC victims, he is clearly a paid shill.

No coroner in their right mind could look at 20,000 tiny fragments of human bodies coming in collected in test tubes, and 760 little bone fragments coming in found some 300-400 feet away all the way across the freaking street and over 1150 bodies completely vaporized and then not even question it, not even make the most obvious & logical assessment that clearly this type of damage could NOT have been because of a simple building collapse.

Human bodies to not fly into tiny little fragments because of a building collapse and they certainly don't scatter into bone fragments several hundred feet away from the outside of the building.

There is only ONE possible explanation for that, EXPLOSIVES!
and it doesn't take anything other than plain common sense to see that.

The coroner is lying.


First off I need to say I live on the same avenue one town over from where Wendy's apartment complex stands. This is not a 9/11 conspiracy, it's a sad accident. A full autopsy report is pending but all indications appear to be that a lit candle caused the blaze; the Galaxy apartments are equipped to contain fires without reaching others nearby which is why the blaze kept to her apartment only. Wendy's boyfriend, who was in the apartment with her at the time, was questioned and released but he did admit they had been drinking-- which is why she may have had a hard time getting out. There's also the possibility that she went back for her 2 beloved dogs, who were later found dead near her body. Please let the NJ investigators do their job and let the Burlingame family grieve in peace.

pardon for asking...

but what is your source for the information you cite?


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I don't care how drunk I am, but...

If my girlfriend and dogs are in the house that catches fire, I'm making sure they're all out before me.

You know her boyfriend was ex-army, right?


Focus on the botched crash scene at Shanksville.

so either he helped to kill her...

Or he helped her fake her death. Given that there is probably a small group of American military including Burlingame that got themselves hooked in with the perps, I think the latter is more likely. Especially since she apparently just sold her "successful online dating business". So there you go. Cash out, check out, and drop out (of sight).


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