Webster Tarpley: "When a Knock is a Boost"

UPDATE: Go to end of post to see email of support from Steven Jones. -rep.

9/11 Conspiracies: When a Knock is a Boost.

Webster G. Tarpley
21 August 2007

Tonight’s History Channel program on 9/11 Conspiracies – Fact or Fiction shows how powerful our movement has become, and how contemptible our opposition is. The deck was stacked, the animations were distorted and fantastic, and the framework was rather nasty, but this was of course NBC News, read GE, which is now a hedge fund in drag. And even NBC News, often the slimiest of the networks, has been forced to pretend to refute numerous factual criticisms of the official story, one by one. I say pretend because most of the refutations were simply blanket denials, with no facts or reasoning beyond mere assertions that the 9/11 truth theses are not true, offend the families, are disgusting, or “corrosive,” and other meaningless verbiage. Some of the attempts at substantive refutation involved dodges and subterfuges that seemed new, at least to me. It sounded like one of their pseudo-experts was arguing that the wings of the alleged airplane at the Pentagon had broken off through hitting objects on the Pentagon lawn. If that was so, where are the wings and the jet engines on that pristine Pentalawn? This pitiful construct is self-contradictory and destroys itself. We also heard that building 7 was hollow at the base, quite an achievement under the New York City building code. The bottom of building 7 was, we now discover, an amphitheater, with no support columns, but only trusses! I guess if your argument is ruptured, then you need a truss. Another pseudo-expert thought that a commercial aircraft could transform itself into an artillery shell or tank round and punch through the Pentagon rings that way, despite the obvious difficulty. CIA man Michael Scheuer says all the evidence points to al Qaeda, but where is all that evidence, Mike? There was none in this program, to be sure. Otherwise, Mike was reduced to some pitiful whining that there are too many decent patriotic people in the CIA – a moot point.

Some of the little people had obviously been leaned on to get them to change their testimony. But that was done with a nominalist stupidity worthy of William of Okham, the dumbest philosopher of the late Middle Ages. The wretched New York TV reporter had to say that he had reported secondary explosions, but not bombs. What precisely is the difference, when heard from afar? The poor Shanksville coroner had said that after a few minutes at the crash site, he had stopped being a coroner because there were no bodies. Now he says that he meant that he became an undertaker. Again, what is the distinction he is driving at? Where there bodies yes or no?

Most of the refutations were weak, fishy, lame, and unconvincing. In particular, any time they have to bring on Chip Berlet, that well-known gutter-dwelling character assassin and mercenary of the foundations, you know they are in big trouble, and he was quite prominent. I believe strongly in the victory of reality over fabrication and lies, and I suspect that this was the response of many viewers tonight. If we had a focus group, we could be sure, but I think more 9/11 came into the world than there were doubters who fell back into the official version based on this program.

But look at all the important factual material they had to present. The viewers got to see the squibs coming out of the twin towers. They got to see building 7 coming down, with ample comparisons to controlled demolition cases. They got to hear and see the infamous Silverstein. They got to see the singed hole in the internal rings of the Pentagon. They got to see the Shanksville crater. They got to hear about false flag operations from a chorus of authoritative voices, and for that there was no refutation. They also got a good source list for further research: Loose Change was prominent, as were Alex Jones and 9/11 Mysteries. Thierry Meyssan, the founder of our worldwide movement, got more recognition tonight than he has ever received in this country, and it is about time – his book the Big Lie is and remains a classic. They go to know David Ray Griffin, Bob Bowman, Jim Fetzer and many more. There was even a plug for my own 9/11 Synthetic Terror. Any serious, intelligent person – and there still are some – knows exactly where to go to find out more, and that can only be a big plus.

I have seen real raving slanders from NBC News, and they look different. Slanders are a relentless barrage of terms like Nazi, communist, SS, anti-semite, racist, white supremacist, Ku Klux Klan, and so forth, with no substance at all. There were only a few intervals when things began to get ugly in that way, and I do not think they convinced anybody.

Most revealing of the moral bankruptcy, intellectual cowardice, and overall weakness of the NBC spin machine were the themes they left out completely. Most glaring was that, even though he was allowed a couple of brief comments, literally all of Professor Steven Jones’ work on thermite-thermate as the key to the controlled demolition of the twin towers was completely ignored. They seem to have concluded that refuting this would be a hopeless task.

They also avoided the most critical pieces of political evidence. There was not a word about the crucial “Angel is next” message accompanied by an array of top-secret code words received by the Secret Service, which is the one documented instance during the day when the invisible government-rogue network, the authors of the coup, actually came out of the shadows and spoke. Then, there was not one mention of the twenty-five plus (25 plus !!!) drills, exercises, and maneuvers which were either in progress on 9/11, had recently been concluded, or were in advanced stages of planning. Viewers who know 9/11 only through this program would not know that there was a single drill going on, even though the Kean-Hamilton commission did talk about Amalgam Virgo, at least during the hearings, and Vanity Fair last summer did acknowledge that some air drills were going on. There was discussion about the pros and cons of cell phone calls, but not a mention of the August 2001 drill at the Department of Transportation that had a scenario of a hijacked aircraft with cell phone calls coming in. Similarly, the program was much concerned with the intrinsically weak thesis of a stand-down, without once delving into the dozen or so Air Force drills that were ongoing and that really do explain the lack of air defense – along with the activities of a certain Colonel Marr. In my dealings with the NBC producer and his team, I went out of my way to stress these two points – “Angel is next” and the 25+ drills. At the Austin conference where much of this material was taped, I made an entire speech on “Angel is next,” Bush’s movements on 9/11, and the drills. But not a word got through. Several speakers, myself included, also pounded them as much as possible about the question of the NEW 9/11 and the looming war with Iran. At rally at the University of Texas tower, we already had the report about Cheney saying on Face the Nation that morning that his main fear was not of terrorist armed not with airline tickets and box cutters, but of a nuclear bomb in a US city. But the NBC people were not interested in that one, either.

The NBC program also tended to allege that the 9/11 truth movement sees Bush and Cheney as the prime movers and directors of 9/11 – an absurd thesis. Bush is a moron, and Cheney is a moribund old drunk with four heart attacks, quadruple bypass surgery, and a pacemaker that has to be serviced every couple of years. I tried to make the NBC people understand the idea of an invisible government much older than Bush and Cheney, going back in the present form at least to 1895, when J.P. Morgan forced President Grover Cleveland to knuckle and under and give Morgan and London total control over the US public debt. NBC was not having any of that, either.

I would urge people in the movement to ponder why specifically these themes were so totally excluded from a broadcast which was otherwise reasonably wide-ranging. I would argue that our oligarchical enemies in the invisible government are very much afraid of issues like the Jones thermite-thermate thesis, “Angel is next,” Bush’s movements on 9/11, the 25+ drills of 9/11, and the new 9/11. They do not much like to hear the invisible government itself talked about, either. Based on this, I would appeal to the 9/11 truth movement as a whole to redouble its attacks on precisely these themes to maximize the damage to the myth-mongers. Hammer them home mercilessly, for their power is enormous. We need to focus on the best scientific-technical evidence, and the best political evidence, as represented by these issues.

Part of the genius of the 9/11 truth movement is our ability to make even the financier-controlled media spread our ideas and work for us. Despite the worst intentions of NBC News, I would say that this is what they have accomplished. They have kept 9/11 truth research in the public eye. There is an old Broadway saying – “A knock is a boost.” In other words, if we are so obscure and so crazy, why do we merit any attention at all? Two-hour documentaries are not cheap and need to get some ratings. Clearly we are not so obscure as NBC News would have us believe. In fact, if we can hold off the new 9/11 for a few more months, 2007 may turn out to be our finest hour.

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From: "Steven Jones"
To: "Webster Tarpley"
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007

Subject: I concur...

Webster --

Well done -- I posted this at 911blogger:

I concur with your summary, Webster: "I would urge people in the movement to ponder why specifically these themes were so totally excluded from a broadcast which was otherwise reasonably wide-ranging. I would argue that our oligarchical enemies in the invisible government are very much afraid of issues like the Jones thermite-thermate thesis, "Angel is next," Bush's movements on 9/11, the 25+ drills of 9/11, and the new 9/11. They do not much like to hear the invisible government itself talked about, either. Based on this, I would appeal to the 9/11 truth movement as a whole to redouble its attacks on precisely these themes to maximize the damage to the myth-mongers. Hammer them home mercilessly, for their power is enormous. We need to focus on the best scientific-technical evidence, and the best political evidence, as represented by these issues."

I would add -- let's keep pushing the Mineta testimony as it relates directly to the lack of air defenses that day and to VP Cheney's angry retort "OF COURSE THE ORDERS STILL STAND! HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY?" The HC interviewers added (helping our quest for 9/11 truth) that Mineta stands by his testimony -- that is a strong point! Impeachment of Cheney should likewise be pursued vigorously, to find out just what those orders were and why they still stood -- with no protection of the Pentagon and NO warning of the people inside it (per testimony of April Gallop who was inside, almost killed). And let's hear from that young man whose conscience led him to stand up and confront the great Cheney...

Steven J

hopeless task indeed. the

hopeless task indeed. the fear is obvious. great job Tarpley.
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

The nature of the truth

"Part of the genius of the 9/11 truth movement is our ability to make even the financier-controlled media spread our ideas and work for us."
....It's not so much our genius. It's just the nature of the truth itself. I have a friend who finally got convinced after watching a "debunking" piece here on German TV where they only showed computer animations and "expert" declarations to make their their point and NOTHING concrete.....They don't have anything to offer simply because there IS nothing. They have to invent everything and it shows.

9/11 truth the death knell of the empire?

It's been said that empires and elites fall from believing their own propaganda.

9/11 put the yellow journalists and the power elite in the impossible situation where the truth is so awful they have to try to believe the lie, or at least shore it up for others at all costs.

The 9/11 lie is their achilles heel, and may well be their death knell.
What they did to their rival Russia, to burden it under the perennial defense of a ridiculous ideology, has now hit home.

That's why I got on board the 9/11 bandwagon. This is THE chink in the armor.
Maybe not wide as a Boeing 757, nor as deep as the WTC basement yet, but it will serve.

Tarpley likes to quote the Latin proverb, Buona fama, mala fama, semper fama.
Good fame, ill fame, it's all fame.

I like the Hollywood version too - the only bad publicity is no publicity.
Ever wonder why most of the celebrity gossip is infamous? It's box office.

excellent. now how may truthers were featured?

Featured: (any more?)
Tarpley
Thierry Meyssan
The Loose Change guys
Alex Jones
Steven Jones
DRG
Fetzer
Sophia?
Bob Bowman

However, no architects & engineers for 9/11 truth, no pilots for 9/11 truth

sophia

she did 9/11 mysteries demolitions I believe

Ltc. Bob Bowman

Kate:
You may wish to get your facts correct and not from the Kiosk -- Ltc. Robert Bowman was also a highly acclaimed fighter pilot, and you might like to read his comments along this line.

Bad Publicity is better than no publicity.

What Mr. Tarpley wrote above deems merit and his efforts for the 911 movement have been courageous.
However, as I was watching the show I noticed how the two people from Popular Mechanics held themselves out to be experts in a large variety of different sciences.

I was sad to hear the people in Shanksville change their story but I understand that when you receive money from the Victims Funds that were set up you have to agree to their version. They would have done better if they played the clip of the Coronor.

They failed to mention the Con-Edison substation that was below WTC-7 but they did mention that NYC had converted one floor to be the NYC disaster headquarters. Would they have done that in a building with the weaknesses that they mentioned? I think not.
I have always asked my self why no one put Rudy Guiliani on the spot of why he did not go there when that is what is was designed for.

For the sake of being short, I think that whoever produced and directed it for whatever company that paid for it.
I don't think that he harmed the movement, he put some words in our mouths which weren't exactly true BUT Bad Publicity is better than no publicity.

Yes and no

One of the side effects of bad publicity is that it "muddies the water" of debate. Fox News uses this tactic very effectively. You don't have to win an argument, just confuse the issue so much that the other side can't win. This program and Pop Mechanics throw out so many half-truths and would-be experts that most viewers will feel intimidated by it and begin to question things they were certain of before the program.

Good point about Giuliani and WTC7. Why would you build the OEM over a structural weakness like that?

I noticed that too . . .

All of the 9/11 truthers were represented title-wise by their current occupations, such as "nurse" or "truck driver" when they should have been addressed, in my opinion, as "9/11 Researcher" or "9/11 Truth Activist" (which would have been more precise in terms of the work they do for 9/11 truth). On the flipside, instead of "expert" the Popular Mechanics people should have been labeled as "editor" or "writer" or something similarly ordinary to offset the misconception the audience would likely have that Popular Mechanics knows what its talking about when it comes to the subject of so-called "9/11 conspiracies".

I sure hope you are right Mr Tarpley

but I think we are going to have to ramp up our efforts and hit them harder every month for this to be "our finest hour".
We have WAY more than enough people right now, at least 100 Million Americans know that 9/11 was an inside job and at least that many if not more know that Bush was NEVER elected.
If we can just get 10% of those people actively in the streets and MAD AS HELL like they should be then we have a chance to make a serious and permanent change for the good of this country.

Great article. I watched the

Great article. I watched the program last night. There were many problems with the show but the one glaring, and extraordinarily brazen omission were the '9/11 Press for Truth' family members. Instead they air only 2 family members who apparently live in denial, still pushing the "you're insulting us 9/11 family members" jargon that's as obsolete as 2002 itself. That, more than even the "expert" label afforded to the P.M. shills, pissed me off.

Tarpley's right about the effect.

On Yahoo's front page, they list top ten searches of the day. The good news is that "9/11 Conspiracy Theories" is number seven. The bad news is that when you click on the link, only 9/11truth.org and CBC's coverage are are in the top ten sites listed for that search. Of course, you see the anti-semitic strawman everywhere.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=9/11+Conspiracy+Theories&cs=bz&fr=fp-bu...

How does ADL list #3?

The ADL document is useful to an extent, because it identifies some full-blown hate speech. But of course it takes the charge of anti-semitism way too far in terms of 9/11.

I just don't see how that website would be the third most popular for the terms "9/11 conspiracies"? Surely, a half a dozen truther sites get more traffic than the ADL. I spent over two years in 9/11 Truth before I even realized the ADL document existed.

And, no, I'm not suggesting a "Zionist conspiracy".

Always too far.

simuvac sez:

The ADL document is useful to an extent, because it identifies some full-blown hate speech. But of course it takes the charge of anti-semitism way too far in terms of 9/11.

The truly objectionable thing on the ADL page is their constant conflation of "Zionists" with "Jews", painting anyone who dares to voice opposition to the Zionist agenda as "anti-semetic". This is S.O.P. for the Zionists...identify themselves with the entirety of the Jewish people (despite strident opposition by some of those very Jews), and paint anyone who dares call attention to the elephant in the room with the 'anti-semetic' brush. It's chillingly effective.

Webster is right...there is

Webster is right...there is no such thing as bad publicity...
One of Ghandi's quotes comes to mind....

First they ignore you,
then they ridicule you,
then they fight you,
then you win!

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Yes Tarpley is right.

I agree jwtruther. The more publicity, the better. I didn't watch the hit-piece. I don't have the stomach for the so-called History Channel but I am sure quite a few people did. All this program does is bring 9/11 truth to the center stage. This is a good thing. The truth about 9/11 is self-evident.

Will they re-run it again?

Damn, I missed it. Both showings! Will they re-run it? Or does somebody have a good TV rip they could release as a torrent? Is it on YouTube?

Future showings:

Saturday, August 25 8:00 PM

Sunday, August 26 12:00 AM

NBC ?

Isn't that just another propaganda-outlet for the "Masons" ? (or rather those who have hijacked the Masons)
Have a look at their logo and research what it means ...
I have reached a point where I don't care much about the "how" of 9-11 or "9-11 truth" for that matter.
We will NEVER get "The Truth", the instant we get to close these psychopaths will just unleash Armageddon.
(or allow the machines to elect one of their non-disclosed agents, most likely HillDawg )
Even if we COULD prove it all in a court of law we would only be getting a few pawns in trouble .
We will never get them on their 9-11 deeds so why not just settle for the "Al-Capone tactic" ?
It's time to move on to "why 9-11?", the actual events of 9-11 are only a minor detail in the big picture.
(unless of course you where one of the 3000 victims, Peace be with Them, or a family-member/friend to one )
Maybe that's what people like Noam Chomsky mean, unless his mission is to prevent us from looking at the "Z-trail'
(Yes, that does mean "Zionist" and that is what the so-called "neo-conservatives are )
Despite the fact that they openly admitted they where there "to document the events" no-one seems to be willing to go down that trail ?
While people like us are using our time to turn every stone in the sometimes surrealistic events of 9-11
they are free to further their satanic agenda .
as Jimi Hendrix, another victim of the bastards, sang : We're living in the past ..
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peter,

We are not settling for a "slap on the wrist" approach, precisely because it will not expose or solve the shadow-government BEAST, the number one obstacle and/or source of 90% of US and world problems. And we're not trying to arrest a handful of people, but a massively corrupt movement acting within American society, but unaccountable to it. Conversely, a thorough Day of Reckoning for 911 will spin most Americans into champions of freedom once again by awakening them to the secret, deceitful and "Un-American" madness that is being done in their names... it is after all, High Treason and costing us a fortune in freedoms, treasure, and international relations.

Your line, "we will never get the truth" is bogus as well: At this stage, the only way for them to bury the truth is world-wide nuclear annihilation. Plus I believe you are underestimating the American Revolt that will occur in the event of martial-law and other extreme measures of suppression.

Further, though "neo-conservatives" have "Zionists" among them, "Zionism" is not their goal (check out the Saudi Family's "Zionism"), as that would imply some religious or spiritual calling. Their goal is Global Imperialism, a task made highly more doable by their subversion of American industrial and military apparatus, again, the reason we must never yield to the temptation to give up on complete exposure.

Finally,

"While people like us are using our time to turn every stone in the sometimes surrealistic events of 9-11
they are free to further their satanic agenda .
as Jimi Hendrix, another victim of the bastards, sang : We're living in the past .."

If you were indeed "uncovering stones", as you claim here, you most certainly would not resign yourself so quaintly to "living in the past". Every "truther" I've ever met GROWS in PASSION that getting to the bottom of this Grand Tyranny is more and more a matter of Life and Death concerning This Nation and the World.

Care to clarify or answer the above?

Great reply

9/11 Truth is shorthand for the 9/11 Truth and Justice Movement.

We are not living in the past, we are shaping our future.

Peace Out

"Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective — a New World Order — can emerge..." - George H.W. Bush, 9/11/91

Tarpley's writing style

"Tonight’s History Channel program on 9/11 Conspiracies – Fact or Fiction shows how powerful our movement has become, and how contemptible our opposition is. The deck was stacked, the animations were distorted and fantastic, and the framework was rather nasty, but this was of course NBC News, read GE, which is now a hedge fund in drag."

Tarpley's writing style might appeal to those who are already 9/11conspiracy theorists, but to those who or not, Tarpley comes across as biased.

Creating an "us" versus "them" dichotomy is the wrong approach. Let them attack us all they want. Attacking them makes us look bad, because they (not us) are the one with the dubious arguments, and they are the ones who will look desparate. We're the ones with the TRUTH--which is the real weapon of victory. Who needs insults when the truth will do just fine? Ditch the ad-homiems.

THEY have no evidence to back up their claims. We don't need to fear those who try to burn straw-men made out of iron with jet fuel.

“We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality."

Sadly at least 30% of this country

are ignorant beyond belief and will swallow a bald faced lie easy as stealing votes from a Democrat.
They don't need evidence all they need to do is keep repeating the same lie over & over, works like a charm.

Yes, I agree

>> but to those who or not, Tarpley comes across as biased.

Yes, I agree. I can't imagine most people I know who care about their own credibility, their professional careers, and are critical thinkers will embrace what Tarpley advocates, however much it may be "exciting" to those within the 9/11 community who agree with him.

The purpose of showing Tarpley is because they can benefit from him by turning off people who don't want anything to do with "conspiracies" (even if they may have questioned the collapse of B7 or the standdown otherwise), not because he exposes things that will hurt NBC or FOX. They show him for a reason. That's simple. They also use Jim Marrs in this way - the mixing of a UFO advocate with 9/11 physical evidence is an easy way to get professionals to turn the channel. The most threatening people to the cover-up are those with credentials, professional experience, an understanding of science and knowledge of how to analyze the evidence. Mixing them with people who sound wacky to the public protects the cover-up.

This is likely the biggest reason we have so few credible, serious professionals really dedicated to exposing the truths -- they are turned off over and over and over each anniversary.

You're completely wrong

Tarpley is a great writer, an intelligent voice of rational thought within this movement, and a terrific speaker in person. I am a professional instructional engineer and Tarpley is one of my favorite 9/11 thinkers out there. I endorse his work with thorough enthusiasm and his book 9/11: Synthetic Terror is a must-read, and even heartily endorsed by ex-Marine Robert Steele (#1 non-fiction reviewer on Amazon) as the most important work of non-fiction he has ever reviewed.

I agree that mis/dis-information is mixed in with credible information to confuse deep truthers. However, Tarpley is not a good target for your argument.

More people wake up all the time, they just never think about it. They're too bashed over the head with American Idol, etc, to re-analyze 9/11. Most people need to be shown - but when they are, they become Truthers. Such is the great thing about this hit piece, as Tarpley illustrates. Many of those viewers will google this information and find out the REAL truth, for it is self-evident. Your comment is ignorant, at a minimum.

"Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective — a New World Order — can emerge..." - George H.W. Bush, 9/11/91

"This is so bizarre no one will ever believe it"

Ironically, perhaps, I happen to agree that Tarpley's writing style has drawbacks, but not for the same reasons as you do. I believe he is too verbally abusive of people who probably don't warrant it. I also happen to believe he completely misses the mark on what the alleged hijackers were actually doing. Mohamed Atta was almost certainly doing Barry Seal's old job, and I suspect none of them were even pretending to be terrorist zealots.

Are you familiar with Alex Jones's Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove? I don't agree with all of his interpretations of what he observed and recorded, but if he had not recorded it on video, there is a very good chance that I would not have believed it, or that I would not have really given it due consideration. The Bohemian Grove is even less bizarre than is the story of the Franklin Cover-up - although there is a connection. Before he was recently sent to prison on unrelated charges, one of the people involved in that scandal, Rusty Nelson, gave an interview in which he recounted Lawrence E. King's assertion that the crimes being committed were so bizarre that no one would believe it if you told them it was happening. It is difficult to establish just how much of the whole account is factual, but it seems clear that there is more than a little truth to it. Ironically, it points back to 9/11, at least in so much as Hunter S. Thompson was mentioned in relation to one of the most bizarre episodes, and he was also claiming 9/11 was an inside job from day 1. That is, before he was Garry Webbed.

My point is this; we are dealing with something that does, indeed, appear to be truly bizarre. It's difficult to know what elements are factual and what elements are fictional. I happen to agree with those who say there is a clear path from Dealey Plaza to 9/11. I don't necessarily agree on the details. It seems to me that you are being too closed-minded about some aspects of 9/11 and the bigger picture. I happen to agree that UFO chasers and moon landing hoaxers are not good people to be associated with. The thing about such ideas as "the moon landings were a hoax" or "alien abductions" is that the evidence falls apart when examined. OTOH there are Secret Societies. Ever hear of the Russell Trust?

So here's the dilemma, how do you convince someone that something truly bizarre actually took place, or is taking place, without sounding truly bizarre yourself? My answer is to stick to the verifiable and pertinent facts when someone challenges your model.
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And just who IS the History Channel, anyway?

"A&E Television Networks (AETN) a joint venture of The Hearst Corporation, ABC, Inc. and NBC Universal, is an award-winning, international media company offering consumers a diverse communications environment ranging from television programming, to home videos/DVDs and music CDs, to Web sites, as well as supporting nationwide educational initiatives.

"AETN is comprised of A&E Network®, The History Channel®, History International™, The Biography Channel®, The History Channel en español™, Military History Channel™, Crime & Investigation Network™, A&E HD™, AETN International, and AETN Consumer Products."

Hearst Corporation ALSO owns Popular Mechanics.

"William Randolph Hearst said, "Give me the pictures and I'll give you the war. ...."

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WTC-7 did not commit suicide.

wowest

Your comment about the Hearst Corp owning Popular Mechanics answers my question about why those idiots were interviewed.

Anybody with half a brain can see that they don't know what they are talking about.

Perhaps this is a gentle hint to some of "the powers that be" to slow down and/or back off a little bit from one of "the other powers that be" who does not like where they see it leading either.

We did get a lot of good stuff out such as the Congressman's testimony about Cheney and the stand down order.

The picture of the small hole in the third ring of the Pentagon and they had to invent a new theory that the planes wings were ripped off as the plane went into the building.

WTC 7 was shown at free fall speed a couple of times. There were people in America that didn't even know that WTC 7 collapsed.

They mentioned the multiple explosions in the Towers as well as showed the squibs. I understand that some high official that was once chief of NIST has called for a review of the investigation of how the towers collapsed.

They may not be Truthers but they did the Truthers a very big favor and perhaps prevented the False Flag nuke in Portland.

Their primary purpose for airing it when they did could have been a warning that they do not control the press and media as much as they thought they did.

But that's just my opinion but "Noble Resolve" has started and in my book "no nukes is good nukes".

The definitive video of WTC7....

....was NOT shown.....and you all know which one I'm talking about (from the North side, slightly east, looking up, with a building in the foreground)....and that shows that 7 can be nothing other than a "classic" controlled demolition.....no one can see that and still believe the OCT. That's why it wasn't shown.

To paraphrase "wowest": Buildings don't commit Suicide.

9/11 Truth ends the 9/11 Wars

More on Scheuer

"CIA man Michael Scheuer says all the evidence points to al Qaeda, but where is all that evidence, Mike? There was none in this program, to be sure. Otherwise, Mike was reduced to some pitiful whining that there are too many decent patriotic people in the CIA – a moot point."

Tarpley might have to answer for his LaRouche connections but he hits the nail on the head right here. Who is this Michael Scheuer and why is he on the mainstream media defending the OCT? Just makes me wonder . . . .

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Please let us not forget ......

I believe it was the older guy from Pop mechanics( not the Doogie Howser duche bag) that said at the end of the WTC 7 clip , if they could just give us some sort of evidence something to hold on to ( It was something like that) . I was screaming at the T.V " what about the molten metal at all three collapse sites you fu#$in Moron ".
Ya that was a poor excuse for a fair and balanced documentry . Like Ol Hunter S. Thompson said Shameful comes to mind.

"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!" -Dan Wallace

I sent an email to the History channel

You can read it at
http://njcpatom.blogspot.com/

I changed the name to fit the blog.

I ended up suggesting that they do a series to disprove all of the 9/11 conspiracy theories along the same lines as the Discovery Channel's Myth busters.

That way they could record history as it should be.
Please let me know what you think.

Good job!

I read it and I think it was great! However, all things considered, you probably were a bit too nice to them . . .

Did they respond?

Not Yet

I am sure they are getting swamped with emails.
I have written them before when they did a "Wanted" on Osama bin-Laden and received a reply.
I am hopeful that they will see there are more issues that were not addressed in their 2 hour documentary.
It's impossible to cover every thing with one program.

Thanks for reading it and giving me your feedback.

Yes, We need to hear more about the Invisible Government!

Webster Griffin Tarpley has added so much to the intellectual discourse of 9/11! I doubt if the average person in America would be discussing the possibility of drills going live--if if weren't for Mr. T?

It seems, the History Channel special adds momentum to the movement!

It does, likewise, fall on the shoulders of our most able proponent, himself, yes, Webster Griffin Tarpley, to up the ante and bring the above government agencies, aka, the heads of the hydra, into clear relief ?

Mr. T. take us to the next level by shining more light on Blackwater, Booz Allen Hamilton, Dynacorp and Halliburton and their shadowy roles! We know, you believe, Booz Allen Hamilton was a likely control center for the 9/11 operation! What else can you tell us?
It's so true, the more we discuss possible perps the harder it gets for them to act!

...don't believe them!

TEDDY ROOSEVELT 1912:

TEDDY ROOSEVELT 1912: "Behind the visible government, there is an invisible government, upon the throne that owes the people no loyalty and recognizes no responsibility. To destroy the invisible government, to undo the unGodly union between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the task of a statesman."

FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT: "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson."

The most severe form of learning disorders are owned by those that "already know everything."

And I believe that it was Woodrow Wilson

believed and spoke about how peace can be only achieved Diplomatically out in the open, not behind closed doors in 1918.

T-Shirts

I think it would be great if we started seeing T-Shirts and Bumper Stickers that read "Of Course the order still stands ... have you heard anything to the contrary?"

Mineta Testimony on T-Shirts

Forgive me if this is duplicated, I didn't see it entered after i just posted it ...

I think it would be great if we started seeing "Of course the orders still stand ... have you heard anything to the contrary?"
pop up in pop culture places, or if people started using it in conversations in a humorous way...

as well as having those statements on Bumper Stickers and T-Shirts.

Hatchet Job

What an obvious and transparent hatchet job. A friend who lived in NYC on 9-11-01 and lost several friends and neighbors, told me he couldn't bear to watch because of the strident truther harassing someone at the site. How many times did they show that clip? It even put a dyed in the wool truther like myself off.

Labeling every truther as a conspiratist and every anti-truther as an "expert." How biased can you get? And to trot out the PM Ed Staff as their "Experts" without mentioning that the long standing PM ed staff had been summarily fired for refusing to publish the written elsewhere PM hit piece under their names and being replaced by a new team headed by Michael Chertoff's cousin, was either the sloppiest journalism ever or an intentional failure tantamount to aiding and abetting treason. (BTW, chertoff is Russian for "of the dead." How appropriate.)

And they addressed not one actual unexplained and inconvenient question. Pointing out steel melts 1,000 degrees higher than av fuel burns but saying that the steel did not have to melt to collapse begs the completely ignored question of how then the WTC basements were full of red hot liquid steel, even weeks later?

Not a word about all the pictures showing the diagonally cut and dripping with slag support columns.

Not a word about the confiscated and never seen again tapes from the private property security cameras across the highway from the Pentagon.

Not a word about Cheney ordering three military exercises that removed all but two interceptor aircraft from the east coast in spite of pointed CIA warnings of a pending attack.

No mention of real experts in high rise fires (Fire Safety Engineering Magazine) saying in print that no modern steel framed building ever has or ever will collapse due to fire and that the 9-11 Commission findings were a hoax and a fraud.

No mention of the 9-11 Commission's own engineering experts going on record to say they were unable to determine the cause of the collapse because they were not allowed to examine or take samples from the rubble. (I saw an interview with one of them saying they had been allowed one, 15 minute, no touch, no pictures, no samples, tour of the rubble collection point )

No mention of the fact the WTC building inspectors are on record as saying every central support column in the WTC's could be reached from the roofs of the elevators in the core. Just non specific and erroneous opinion that it would take "months" to rig the buildings and you would have to tear off all the sheet rock to get at the core columns. A two man team on the top of each elevator could have rigged every column from bottom to top in a matter of hours. And even uneducated Iraqi insurgents can figure out how to use cell phones to create no wires attached IED's. Imagine what Mossad trained agents must be capable of. Which bring up the cheering group of Israelis arrested filming the WTC collapse and then whisked out of the country under diplomatic immunity.

Which reminds one of the never questioned Bush statement on 9-11-01 that he had seen the first building get hit on TV. How prescient of whoever supplied that coverage, in real time. Perhaps the celebrating Israeli "furniture movers" were his film crew? Furniture movers have diplomatic immunity? If they are so intuitive as to set up the cameras and connect the feed to a remote Presidential location in advance of the first hit, you'd think they could have better profited themselves playing the stock market than moving furniture for a living. But then, maybe they were the ones who placed the huge shorts on 9-10-01 on the airlines whose aircraft were involved in the attacks.

Well, the list goes on nearly endlessly. But everyone who cares to know, already knows. And everyone who does not want to know certainly came away still not knowing. The only thing the HC product accomplished was to add Holt's name to the list of known and knowing traitors to America.