Families of 9/11 Victims Divided Over Detainee Trial Plan

Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,575110,00.html

I can't help but wonder if the defense lawyer for the accused will bring up any 9/11 truth facts during the course of this trial.

Families of 9/11 Victims Divided Over Detainee Trial Plan

Saturday , November 14, 2009

Attorney General Eric Holder's announcement to bring Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four others detained at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to trial at a New York City courthouse was received by families of Sept. 11 victims with mixed reaction Friday.

Many of the relatives expressed opposition to any civilian trial for terror suspects — especially at the federal courthouse 1,000 yards from the spot where nearly 3,000 people died.

Some called the decision a terrible mistake, while others said the trial would give the men a platform to "spew" their anti-American hatred and invective.

Ed Kowalski, of the 9/11 Families for a Secure America Foundation, said: "To allow a terrorist and a war criminal the opportunity of having U.S. constitutional protections is a wrong thing to do and it’s never been done before. President Obama is wrong to do this."

"If we have to bring them to the United States, New York City is not the place to have it, let alone in a courthouse that is in the shadows of the twin towers," Lee Ielpi, whose firefighter son died in the 9/11 attacks, said. The city's wounds, he said, are simply still too raw.

"Ripping that scab open will create a tremendous hardship," he said.

"We have a president who doesn't know we're at war," said Debra Burlingame, whose brother, Charles Burlingame, had been the pilot of the hijacked plane that crashed into the Pentagon. She said she was sickened by "the prospect of these barbarians being turned into victims by their attorneys."

But Lorie Van Auken, whose husband Kenneth was killed in the World Trade Center attacks, voiced support for the decision, saying the trials would help to bring closure.

"I'm glad to hear they are going to be brought to New York to the scene of the crime and giving the families that were affected the chance to actually watch the trial," Van Auken told Reuters.

Valerie Lucznikowska, whose nephew died at the World Trade Center, said she would not care if the suspects sounded off in court, so long as the victims' families got to see them put on trial.

"What are words? It was a horrible thing to have 3,000 people killed," she said.

Trying the men in civilian court is a risky move and is likely to confront a host of difficult issues, including rough treatment of detainees, sensitive intelligence gathering and the potential spectacle of defiant terrorists disrupting proceedings.

U.S. civilian courts prohibit evidence obtained through coercion, and a number of detainees were questioned using harsh methods some call torture.

Holder insisted both the court system and the untainted evidence against the five men are strong enough to deliver a guilty verdict and the penalty he expects to seek: a death sentence for the deaths of nearly 3,000 people who were killed when four hijacked jetliners slammed into the towers, the Pentagon, and a field in western Pennsylvania.

The Times of London and the Associated Press contributed to this report.

"the trials would help to bring closure"

That's what it's all about --

"the trials would help to bring closure"

Closure for the families and everyone else so we can all forget about any unanswered questions and move on. We'd never know the answers to those anyway. No one does.

"to deliver a guilty verdict and the penalty he expects to seek: a death sentence for the deaths of nearly 3,000 people who were killed"

Closure at last through five more murders. That's exactly what we all needed to make things right. And just what 'murica is all about.

That's what it's all about...

For the media and the "ptb." Not to Lorie Van Auken. Remember, to Lorie, it's not about closure. Fox News is being deceptive in its reporting (imagine that). I used to say that the families deserve closure, but was re-educated about that, and it was Lorie Van Auken that re-educated me. I think she says it in 9/11: Press For Truth or In Their Own Words: The Untold Stories Of The 9/11 Families. They will most likely never have closure. What they do want, however, is JUSTICE.

The trials will be a huge opportunity to 9/11 Truth activists in my opinion.


Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? The facts speak for themselves.

"The trials will be a huge opportunity to 9/11 Truth activists"

Exactly. This is a positive step in the possibility for justice. We need to figure out the best ways to take advantage of this opportunity. This may be the chance for those in the Obama administration to push back against the powers that be. JFK was trying to do it. And we can't totally rule out that possibility that this is a way to send a message against the pressures of the military that they are currently putting on the administration. Leaking military requests for Afghanistan etc. The military and PNAC neo cons wanted all this handled behind closed doors in military tribunals. Their chances of exposure are much more greater now that they didn't get their way on that desire.

Here...

Is an interview Lorie did last night...

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5650163n&tag=contentMain;contentB


Do these people deserve to know how and why their loved ones were murdered? The facts speak for themselves.

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This trial is being used to continue brainwashing those Americans that only look at mainstream media for their news to contol the way they think. It's too bad these type of Americans don't use their own critical thinking skills and find other independent news sources that have alternative views which can inform their thinking process and then give them a chance to weigh the evidence that's available to them in order to make a more sound judgement.
Take Care Matt

already convicted

one must wonder what ever happened to u.s. justice.. and its premise of an accused given the benefit of the doubt until proven in fair hearing, judged by one's peers?

yet the alice in wonderland guantanamo-war on terror has already corrupted a true investigation.

one must wonder what the underlying plans are by bringing this trial to nyc..

like i wonder about the 'false flag' apparent operation planned on 9/11/09..

http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/206264

they claimed to catch the evil doer.. with evidence of his buying bomb making supplies, but everything disappeared?!? the supplies, "the accomplices", something stinks at the lack of attention this case has received.. like they got caught.. and now covering it all up.

whatever will happen in nyc with this trial..
the idea of 'innocent until proven guilty' has to come with a lot of spin to it.. and danger..

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"Who did it?" is a different question from "What happened?"

Failure on the part of the general public to understand that it is an absolute scientific fact that all three buildings were controlled demolitions, makes it impossible to frame charges, let alone have a fair trial.

"Who did it?" is not a reasonable question, until it is first determined "What was done?"

If there was the slightest interest in "justice" or "truth," every physics department in every college in the world would be competing for dust samples and steel samples to test for incendiaries of all sorts.

Yes - I know the readers of this blog already know this ------------Frustrating.

Facinating...

re... "Ed Kowalski, of the 9/11 Families for a Secure America Foundation, said: "To allow a terrorist and a war criminal the opportunity of having U.S. constitutional protections is a wrong thing to do and it’s never been done before."

Soooo, I take it Mr Kowalski has already held his own trial where the accused were found guilty of being terrorists and war criminals.
Good lord if everyone in NY thinks like him... they're sure to get a fair trial.

The basic ideology

One of the striking characteristics of fascism is the way that it uses mass communication--what are supposed to be the instruments of democracy--to subvert democracy. Propagandists make ample use of the mass media to convince the general public that crucial legal principles adopted for its own protection are in fact things to be abhorred and rejected.

Where such principles are honored, well, then you actually need evidence to lock someone up or have them executed.

Yes, to be required to come up with actual evidence--what a nightmare that would be! Any red-blooded American should be able to see that we just can't have that!