China: attack on Pakistan would be construed as an attack on China

China 'Asks USA To Respect Pak Sovereignty'

By Press Trust of India

May 19, 2011 "The Statesman" -- ISLAMABAD, 19 MAY: In the wake of the US raid in Abbottabad that killed Osama bin Laden, China has “warned in unequivocal terms that any attack on Pakistan would be construed as an attack on China”, a media report claimed today.

The warning was formally conveyed by the Chinese foreign minister at last week's China-US strategic dialogue and economic talks in Washington, The News daily quoted diplomatic sources as saying. China also advised the USA to “respect Pakistan's sovereignty and solidarity”, the report said.

Chinese Premier Mr Wen Jiabao informed his Pakistani counterpart Mr Yousuf Raza Gilani about the matters taken up with the US during their formal talks at the Great Hall of the People yesterday. The report said China “warned in unequivocal terms that any attack on Pakistan would be construed as an attack on China”. The two premiers held a 45-minute one-on-one meeting before beginning talks with their delegations.

The Chinese leadership was “extremely forthcoming in assuring its unprecedented support to Pakistan for its national cause and security” and discussed all subjects of mutual interest with Mr Gilani, the report said. Mr Gilani described Pakistan-China relations and friendship as “unique”. Talking to Pakistani journalists accompanying him, he said that China had acknowledged his country's contribution and sacrifices in the war against terrorism and supported its cause at the international level. “China supported Pakistan's cause on its own accord,” Mr Gilani said with reference to the Sino-US strategic dialogue where the Chinese told the US that Pakistan should be helped and its national honour respected. Mr Gilani said China had asked the US to improve its relations with Pakistan, keeping in view the present scenario.

Pakistan reiterated its position on the one-China policy and said it fully supported China on the issues of Taiwan and Tibet, he said. He said both sides will continue their consultations on UN reforms. It was also agreed that both countries will formulate a long-term joint energy mechanism for electricity generation in Pakistan through various means, including nuclear energy.

Mr Wen announced that the Chinese leadership will send a special envoy to Islamabad to express solidarity with Pakistan at this “crucial period in its history”. The envoy, a senior minister, will take part in celebrations marking the 60th anniversary of diplomatic ties between the two countries.

The USA has stepped up pressure on Pakistan to crack down on terrorist sanctuaries and to probe whether military and intelligence officials were aware that bin Laden had been hiding in the garrison city of Abbottabad, which is home to thousands of soldiers.

Pakistan has turned to China, its “all weather friend”, for support in the face of reports that US lawmakers are pressing for cuts in aid. China has agreed to provide Pakistan 50 new JF-17 Thunder multi-role jets under a co-production agreement, The News reported. It is likely that these planes will be supplied by June next year.

The two countries are also discussing the supply of Chinese J-20 stealth jets and Xiaolong/FC-1 multi-purpose light fighter aircraft to Pakistan. They are discussing the mode of payment and the number of planes to be provided to Pakistan, the report said. China will also launch a satellite for Pakistan on 14 August.

The satellite will supply “multifarious data” to Pakistan, the report said. Mr Gilani said both sides had agreed to increase defence cooperation and China had assured Pakistan of help in enhancing the capacity of its armed forces.

He said Pakistan's trade with China had registered a significant increase in the last two years and efforts were being made to raise it to US$ 15 billion a year.

Mr Gilani said Pakistan has the capability and capacity to defend its frontiers and the armed forces are fully vigilant, and no incident like the US raid against bin Laden will happen in future. He said Pakistan will continue its efforts to stop US drone attacks, which have proved to be counter-productive.

To a question, Mr Gilani said Pakistan's political and military leadership will decide about a military operation in North Waziristan agency. No pressure will be accepted in this regard and Pakistan alone will decide on this issue, he said. Mr Gilani said Pakistan desired good relations with all its neighbours, including India, Afghanistan and Iran.

That would

start a war with China. That is just what the Globalists want. A third World War. By the way Big Bin died in 2001. I thought I would just throw that on in just for fun. Amazing how the MSM is pushing his phoney death. Hard to believe that people still fall for those NWO lies.


So... this happens because of a staged raid? The fake raid, that killed the Bin Laden thawed from Alex Jones' freezer, is a reason for China to threaten war against the United States? And the United States risked all this for a hoax?

A counterattack on the United States by China in retaliation for military action in Pakistan would be construed as an attack on NATO, so what we have here is a threat of World War III.


US - Europe - Japan - India vs Pakistan - China - Russia


During the rare occasions over the past year or so when I have happened to listen to 'self-satisfied' NPR, before quickly getting sick of same, I've detected what I consider an attitude of "preparing the public mind" for an eventual war with China. Recall Chomsky referring to NPR as National Pentagon Radio.'

Regional Sparring

This has more to do with the regional posturing over Afghanistan and Caspian sea basin where there is a dangerous convergence of US, Chinese, Russian military forces as is well known.

So China is backing another country in its region to squeeze the US out of the picture. It is more likely "the raid" is a result of this conflict in the region and not the other way around.

Remember the "yellow cake" forgery. There has been a long line of questionable stories over the last 10 years so it is important to be skeptical as larger and more real imperatives exist in this war total regional dominance. The OBL story does not make much sense in itself because OBL did not bring down the Towers.

Therefore if the OBL story of 9/11 is false, then the totality of OBL is as an intelligence ploy, or cover, for the culpability of domestic actors.

This means that even true aspects about OBL are simply embellishments of a psyop meant to motivate mass populations in aid of US hegemonic goals in the Afghan region

The key insight is that if OBL did not plant the nanothermite, then the only imperative is to, by any means necessary, to keep assigning the blame to him. If he did not bring down the towers, then he is in effect just a useful agent in obscuring the truth and assisting in US hegemony.

So even if some of the elements of "the raid" were real, the OBL variable belongs to a bigger equation or story that is real but needs to be disguised.

Try Some Of This YellowCake

So now the Iranians are responsible for 9/11 or at least had "foreknowledge".

This yellowcake smells like shit. Hope the masses don't eat and swallow it whole cloth.

Who was "Curveball"?

The US will never go to war

The US will never go to war with Iran as long as Barack Obama is President

Is there

Any other source for this than Indian media? From checking around, it seems as if only Indian media are making these claims and no other media outlets are picking them up.

China military not out to challenge US: PLA general

By Carlos Hamann (AFP) – 1 day ago

WASHINGTON — A top Chinese general said his country was ready to bolster military ties with the United States but warned that Washington's arms sales to Taiwan remained a stumbling block.

In a week-long visit to the United States, People's Liberation Army Chief of General Staff Chen Bingde struck a mostly conciliatory tone, saying his country had no plans to take on the US military in the Pacific.

"I can tell you China does not have the capability to challenge the United States," Chen told a joint news conference with his US counterpart, Admiral Mike Mullen.

So, which is it?

I sincerely doubt that China

I sincerely doubt that China would venture to wage war against the US, even under a proxy conflict or even after a semi-direct attack.

China is doing just fine on the grand chessboard, as the US weakens by the day. It's sort of scary, actually, to think about it in those terms -- a cornered animal like the US with a disappearing manufacturing base and currency yet more weapons than any other country in history.

Pakistan is indeed a proxy battlefield, of sorts. Hence the "Bin Laden" nonsense. Recently Sibel Edmonds wrote that --

"Okay, now you have Obama’s Neoconistic objectives with China as its main target and competitor, and you have China competing for the same strategic area, Pakistan, to fulfill its energy needs and establish a strategic footprint in the Arabian Sea, and in the middle of it, the point where US-China strategic objectives intersect: Pakistan"

I don't think China is dumb enough to pick a war with the US, and I don't think the US is dumb enough to pick an economic war with China. I think we're seeing typical saber-rattling, combined with geo-strategic positioning.

The problem with saber-rattling is it sometimes turns into real war.

Looks like

China has replaced Russia as the primary geostrategic rival and scapegoat. I sense lots of fear for China in and around Washington, the Pentagon, think tanks.. in media reports.

China is ambitious, that much is clear. Pakistan is a hug powder keg with a lit fuse attached. Somebody needs to put that out.

I do see confrontation with China as a possibility, for the simple reason that at some point in the (distant) future, both sides will be forced to, because they can't afford to lose control over regions which are key geographical positions from a military perspective or over regions which are rich in natural resources. As China's economy grows exponentially, and natural resources deplete, the chances of such a confrontation occurring within our lifetimes increase drastically to the point of inevitability.

China is a nuclear power, Pakistan is a nuclear power, plus, internally deeply unstable.... a catastrophe is brewing.

There is a reason why China has developed, among other things, anti-satellite weapons and cruise missiles which can destroy aircraft carriers...

Then there's North Korea - South Korea, also destabilizing, also at least one nuclear power involved... Seoul is a stone's throw from the Korean DMZ, you could just toss a nuke over the fence, Seoul would be wiped out with no warning.

And Iran.. possible future nuclear power... (If I were Iran, I would want one, because nothing else will keep the yanks out) How often has the U.S. battled nuclear powers directly since they last used a-bombs themselves?

We shouldn't forget Israel, estimated to have about 200 nuclear weapons and facing a possible wind of change in the countries around it, Israel's leadership must be in a swivet. There's no telling what Israel will do when its wingnut leadership starts behaving like a cornered animal.

Great post

Great post Snowcrash on the geopolitical intrigues. It is precisely because of geopolitics that I am skeptical of the Bin Laden hit -- well that and another 100 factors.

Anyway, thanks.

Little things

Pakistan has nukes and a nuclear program,

both are things which Israel wants gone.
Thus, Pakistan was always going to be framed as on the "wrong side" in the fraudulent war on terror.

Thus, the ISI gets framed as drug-running terrorist hiding bad guys.

Thus, Obama expands the war by immediately reframing the 9/11 war in Afghanistan as AfPak, highlighting the created instability in Pakistan as it attempts to exploit it.

China is an empire, an internal empire, and always has been.

The Chinese leadership have always known that they have to keep their country together FIRST, or all is lost.

In order to do this, they HAVE to secure the resources necessary to give their people a reasonable standard of living while competing with the wasteful and corrupt U.S.

The Chinese know all about 9/11 and the U.S. plans for global domination and have to oppose it in order to insure their own INTERNAL security.

Thus, they shoot down their own aging satellite to demonstrate to the U.S. and Russia their capacity to defend the highest ground (space) AND they make deals with all their neighbors in central Asia (the Shanghai Cooperation Organization) to resist western (i.e. U.S. and British) meddling in their backyard.

Keep in mind that the U.S. has been funding terrorism in western China for years, if not decades.

As long as the Chinese maintain control over their currency, the possibility for serious hostilities perpetrated by the west remains.

The Chinese are not stupid, they have been fighting to maintain their internal empire for thousands of years and will not give that up easily.

Western containment of China is a delicate balancing act in that the west has to encourage China to follow the western economic model (especially the FINANCIAL model) while also building in fences and other obstacles to total Chinese domination, absent their self-subjugation via global monetary control.

Into this mix add a middle eastern bulldog hellbent on survival and expansion at any cost and what do you get?

Decades of mischief in central Asia (Grand Chessboard, anyone?), including the 9/11 false flag, and an end game designed to make Israel the only nuclear power in the neighborhood and large enough to be almost sustainable.

This should indicate who one of the main agents involved in creating 9/11 was and thus the primary agent for the ongoing cover-up, and the push back against this entity from those in the know in the U.S. who don't like the role assigned the U.S. in this game.

I recommend learning Mandarin, asap (hello = "nee how", thank you = "shay shay", that will get you started) if you want to work in international finance, because that's where all the money is going.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.