Reality Check: The U.S. Government actually created Al Qaeda?

And CNN weighs in...

CNN: White Supremacists Could Be A Bigger Threat To Americans Than Al Qaeda

This guy is laughable.....

This guy on Democracy Now, Daryl Johnson, was contacted by then Senator Obama, I think I heard that right, to check out right wing extremist "chatter" in the US. He came up empty handed.
So then he wrote a completely speculative position paper and now is passing it off as gospel. It is as lame as "The Pelican Brief...." remember when she was shocked by her own writing?


my paranoid mind instantly jumps to the idea of creating the enemy you (the cia? mic wants to fight next. a la so many 'domestic terrorist' instances recently.a la gladio, etc. 'justify the civil liberties (ha! further!?*#!?*) crackdown and turn to the right.' i just find it difficult to believe ANYTHING anymore that i hear on the news. reading l fletcher prouty's 'the secret team' too much. excellent for insight into 'the way things/the world/us action therein work. sigh.

Hillary , while pretending to come clean.........

....still plays fast and loose with the truth.

Notice how in her statement in the video she indicates that the US only started funding the anti-government, Mujaheddin fighters AFTER the Soviets invaded Afghanistan? We know now that this was not the case. Zbigniew Brzezinksi, Carters National Security Adviser, admitted in an interview to a French newspape, Le Nouvel Observateur, that the US actually started providing support for the fundamentalist, jihadist fighters BEFORE the Soviet invasion. The hope was that if these fighters could cause enough trouble for the Afghan government, the USSR would send in their army to assist the Afghans fight the insurgency, and in that way the USA could give the Soviet Union "its Vietnam war" (in Brzezinski's words).

A snip from the interview republished at

Q: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.


Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn’t believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don’t regret anything today?

Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

See also this story about how over a period of 20 years the USA supplied fundamentalist, jihadists in Afghanistan with the text books used in Afghan schools to brainwash young Afghan students in the ways of violent jihad, hatred of non-Muslims, Muslim fundamentalism etc.

Why has the US been Shipping Muslim Extremist Schoolbooks into Afghanistan...for 20 Years?

And why is President Bush hiding it?

By Jared Israel
[Posted 9 April 2002]

Have you heard about the Afghan Jihad schoolbook scandal?

Or perhaps I should say, "Have you heard about the Afghan Jihad schoolbook scandal that's waiting to happen?"

Because it has been almost unreported in the Western media that the US government shipped, and continues to ship, millions of Islamist (or Islamic fundamentalist) textbooks into Afghanistan.

Only one English-speaking newspaper we could find has investigated this issue: the Washington Post. The story appeared March 23rd. [1]

Washington Post investigators report that during the past twenty years the US has spent millions of dollars producing fanatical schoolbooks, which were then distributed in Afghanistan.

"The primers, which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, have served since then [i.e., since the violent destruction of the Afghan secular government in the early 1990s] as the Afghan school system's core curriculum. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books..."
-- Washington Post, 23 March 2002

That looks right to me....

With the added note that nothing is mentioned about the 'stans. The idea, was, I think, to also radicalize Muslims throughout the region i.e. in what is commonly refereed to as the 'stans and weaken the underbelly of the Soviet Union.

The big question is: "why then did we set the same trap for ourselves?"


I think the answer is because they hate us for our freedom.

'They' and 'us'

RIght. That 'they hate us for our freedoms' line has a whole different ring to it here as compared to how it's usually fed us by politicians and the corporate news media. 'We' did not set a trap for 'ourselves.' 'We' did not create a false-flag event in order to deceive 'ourselves.' The mass of the people need to stop thinking of their country's policymaking elites as 'we,' and instead think of them as the 'they' that they are.

Rhetorical Question

It was a rhetorical question, after all: why did we fall for our own trap and hoist ourselves on our own petard? Yet, still, I am interested in the next installment of the crap narrative that they come out with. Afghanistan is where empires go to die and I would like to see who has an excuse for thinking this time it would be different. One niggling thought I have is that the they are not our elites but some other entity and that the Russians were sent in there to do a job that they failed at and then they sent the A team in. Like in tournament play wherein we got the bye in the first round. It is not that far out there when you look at the absurdity of history. After the bloody carnage of World War I, around twenty years later, someone actually thought that Europe would be a good site for a land war.

with you

on the rhetoric. And the opium trade seems to be a success for them already. The dollars are still flowing that way as well. What more could they ask for? Peace? Democracy?

Core of Corruption cancelled

As an aside, if people here haven't heard the news, Jonathan Elinoff has cancelled his CORE OF CORRUPTION series and will never be releasing the completed sequel ECHOES OF TREASON, which is depressing. The sequel was in production for 3 years, featured new info and interviews (including one he did with Atta's girlfriend, plus others with whistleblowers from Wall St and elsewhere) and more. Someone please get him drunk in a bar someday and get him to spill the beans on what was in his movie, as being teased with hints and promises about it for years in a row and hearing him hype it in interviews and on radio did make me somewhat keen to eventually watch it.

Bummer on Core 2

Was looking forward to that.I say chop up the footage and fish it out to Alex Jones, James Corbett, ect