Regarding that hilarious/sad video clip:

Exactly

Perhaps he could be invited to the conference coming up? LOL

Arrogant losers like Arkin make me want to abandon my semi-pacifistic beliefs.

Here are ten ways that the Bush Administration has exploited 9/11: Top 10 Signs of the Impending U.S. Police State.

A couple of other readers of the above article ("hankgeorge" and "ssegallmd") made some excellent comments regarding 9/11 truth.

http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/users/441a44e2zce570ead/.ee64re2/__sr_/522dre2.jpg

Wow, this Arkin article. Just wow. any credibility he might have had with people in the article I think went out the window when he then eludes to anyone questioning Iraq as being a nutjob. No Mr. Arkin, the only people exploiting and twisting facts on 9/11 are the neocons and their warhawk supporters.

Don't feed the trolls.

911poller is the new truthout/S.King/Terrence/ etc. just in case you guys didnt notice.

You would think this journalist knows Von Buelow. I wonder if he's included with celebrities.

Hits the nail on the head??? I think you've been hit in the head. Demanding justice for the victims of 9/11 is exploitation?? This selfless act of patriotism displayed by the members of 9/11 truth is completely opposite of the ruthless exploitation of this day by the administration.

Let me get this straight. Shredding the constitution, having the RNC in NYC, waging illegal wars of imperalism, and the host of other illegal and immoral acts enacted on the citizens of America and the world, is now on par with demanding truth and accountability from our government. This article is a joke.

Too late!!! I've fed the troll! Lets just see how much he growls and grunts.

"Here's a rebuttal I wrote to the article, but it wouldn't allow me to post it."

What do you mean -- it wouldn't allow you to post? I can post fine (a quick registration was needed).

Love that video ;-) Thanks!

Are they not accepting any more comments on the "article" ?

Hehe.

Yeah I tried to comment on his blog, but I think he stopped allowing comments at 9:06 am.

Still no MSM coverage of the poll:

http://news.google.com/news?q=zogby+9-11+OR+9-11

(Unless you call that blog MSM)

That caSHILL from world net daily cracks me up. He goes on and on and on and on and on about his TWA Flight 800 conspiracy theories, yet denounces ANY questioning of 9/11. Seriously, wtf?

benthere, that is the BEST indication that the media no longer does its' job. For those lurkers out there who think we're bullshitting you.

reading the comments to the article was quite satisfying--especially the person who said he/she bought the official line until he/she followed the links posted in previous comments. good job 911 bloggers.

"Demanding justice for the victims of 9/11 is exploitation?? This selfless act of patriotism displayed by the members of 9/11 truth is completely opposite of the ruthless exploitation of this day by the administration."

But that's NOT what you are doing. You should also read this.

You can't ignore the MSM just because you don't agree with it.

"The Professional" you asked: "Are they not accepting any more comments on the "article" ? " Yes... I just posted, and at least one other person posted since.

That video is the awful truth. I made my own version a few months ago. My favorite line was was Giuliani said "terrorists of terrorism". I still LOL whenever I hear that.

I have made $0 off of "exploiting 9/11". I have spent hundreds, probably thousands of hours on it by now. This Arkin got paid to spew his lies and hate for those that research 9/11, in his job as military analyst. He also made money from his book "Codenames: Deciphering U.S. Military Plans, Programs, and Operations in the 9/11 World", exploiting the name of 9/11.

Neither you nor him are qualified to accuse anyone of exploiting the events, or the victims families. You do more harm to them than good.

"ignore the MSM"? The MSM hasn't even mentioned the poll (see my post above).

@911poller:

I'm not one of those people who dismisses everything in the MSM, as much as Im sure even youd admit it is self censored and shaped(Iraq news, for instance) Overlooked news articles in the mainstream for the last 5 or so years taken within th econtext it was written have helped established 9/11 was no "incompetence" as so many left-righters would have you believe.

If you only knew how many people with no real agenda simply want the truth behind 9/11 to come out, and enough of this coverup going on. I bought the official neocon version of events that lead to 9/11 til I saw how many FBI whistleblowers, government officials and 9/11 families were coming forward.

"The Professional" you asked: "Are they not accepting any more comments on the "article" ? " Yes... I just posted, and at least one other person posted since.
Alex | 05.26.06 - 9:37 pm | #

The comments are backwords, I see now. Look for yours at the top when you post.

i KNEW 911Troller would bring the good old www.911myths.com page up. I've been angered by this attack page ever since when. AGAIN, this page uses a simple trick, just like any lawyer in court does, by leaving out one side of the argument, and only telling half the truth. Best example are the Osama videos: it merely states that this one interview Osama made for a Pakistani newspaper might have been ghostwritten by the Taleban. But it fully HIDES the fact that a December 2001 video of Osama confirmed his denial by stating Afghanistan had been invaded on "surmises" only. Then WTC7: it states firefighters that report the fascade being torn down on one side of the building, but HIDES a full blown, all-things-considered (NPR..) report by Steven Jones that states what we all knew by our gut instinct and common sense: a building like that, 10 times taller and bigger than YOUR city hall just doesn't fall like a house of cards, fire or not, damage or not - remember Oklahoma city? The building remained STANDING!
(have some chow, troll)

There was no contact info on the site you posted, so I'll respond here. The author presents no evidence. And say several things that are flat wrong. "Why don't these conspiracy theorists provide the evidence?" The only 'Evidence' that exists is sketchy because much was destroyed quickly after the events. Thank our government for that. But analysis of available evidence can be found e.g. http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
and
http://911research.wtc7.net/

The author goes on to invoke Ockham's razor for why the official stories should be believed. But this is a misuse of the principle. Ockhams razor applies when two theories explain the same evidence. Thus all things being equal, the simplest explanation is best. The problem is the government's explanation fails to account for much of the evidence. This also explains why there are differing theories -- there is not enough evidence to put one about another. These are not theories as you use the term, in the pejorative sense. These are scientific research-based theories.

FYI, I just got off the phone with Keith Phucas (the guy who wrote the article), and he's writing a piece on the Zogby Poll...

He's doing a story that will be out in Monday's paper, and he wanted to get my input. I told him to emphasize the non-existent media coverage. That this DESERVES attention, etc... and I told him the thing about the poll that stood out to me most was the fact that 45% of voting Americans suspect the Government, "consciously allowed or helped facilitate their success", and they want a new investigation.

FYI

thanks for the heads up on spelling :)

Seeing that I've been using my actual name to post and publicly talk about 9/11 for two years now...(including past radio broadcasts...................I donÂ’t think I'm hiding behind patriotism...I'm living it Mr. "Anonymous"

"My point is that anyone who opposes the 9/11 Truth Movement...."

Some have pointed out the difference between "truth" and the "truth movement". That hardly makes them traitors.

"911blogger.com does not seek to push any specific 'theories' about 9/11, but rather seeks to cover 9/11 related 'alternative' news. As such all readers should do their own research and develop their own opinions on the news and information covered."

This article has more truth in than we'd like to believe.

It is certainly not descriptive of the movement as a whole, but there are many, many people within the movement that hold the truth in as much comtempt as the Bush administration does.

Let's use this as an opportunity to evaluate ourselves. If any one of us has ever stretched the truth or ignored facts in order to make a point, we're part of the problem.

Carn, I think the article is essentially trash, but I do agree the Movement needs to have better clarity and focus on the latest known facts. Example: Prof. Fetzer, who I admire greatly for spreading 911 truth widely in a typically clear and detailed way, just a few days ago claimed on a radio interview that the blue tarp covered "box" that the military guys were carrying in that famous 911 Pentagon photo probably contained plane debris/other evidence. It is now well-known (or should be) that they were actually carrying one of many tents that were set up on the grounds that day:
http://www.rense.com/general70/bluett.htm So even experts like Prof. Fetzer slip-up now and then.

"My point is that anyone who opposes the 9/11 Truth Movement just for the sake of opposing it, attacking its' members just for the sake of attacking them, is a traitor to their country."

You should pay attention rather than attacking posters who bring the truth to you, Jon Gold.

"So Mr. Gold - what are you going to do about this besides wasting your time on some blog as well as pitching your own website?"

Get a front page story written about me in last week's Sunday edition of the Times Herald.

http://www.timesherald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16670601&BRD=1672&PAG=46...

^HAHAHAHAHA brilliant!! That made me laugh man, you really took the wind out of that ponks sails.

"^HAHAHAHAHA brilliant!! That made me laugh man, you really took the wind out of that ponks sails."

You hope.

I see that "Conspiracy Smasher" finally used his "real" pseudonym in the comments of the Post article. Then there's Namron, who ever since he showed up there have been several other distractors (all probably him) posting as well, such as Mary C. Scott, Rev. C. Solomon, Archimedes, Scott Laughrey, and a few others I probably missed.

For example, one post of disinfo:

Bush based his illegal war for oil in Iraq in part on the official propaganda of 9/11. I am surprised you could not see that, unless the corporate controlled media already indoctrinates you.

The really cool progressives do not accept the corporate controlled media propaganda of 19 hijackers and jet airplanes. There are many really cool progressive Web sites that show it was squib charges and holograms used on 9/11.

The Web Fairy and me question authority and use Internet chat boards to show others that the 72 dpi images we use certainly disprove the months of detailed study by engineers from the National Science Foundation.

As long as we keep up with our really cool postings to let the world know the truth, I would have to assume that we will in fact stop the illegal war in Iraq, have Rummy and Bush and Cheney arrested as war criminals, force Halliburton to give all of their illegal war profits to the Free Mumia Abu-Jamal fund, and overturn the marijuana laws in the U.S.

Peace. -- Scott Laughrey

(my emphasis added)

He makes it seem like he is a 9/11 researcher ("Truther", etc.), but his "many really cool progressive Web sites that show it was squib charges and holograms used on 9/11" statements make it clear to anyone who really pays attention that his post is satire. Then just go look at some of his other posts that don't give it away, to see that he's succeeding at his job of PAID Distraction, Deception, and Disinformation.

These people will show up any time there is a comments section on a major article, because they know that's where more real truth comes out than the actual articles. They like to try to take away our power of influence on the internet by muddying the waters. I don't know how to deal with them when you can't moderate the comments.

Like for example this comment:

People who buy every word that the rightards here say should go buy George Orwell's 1984 and practice up; it won't be long before the hopelessly indoctrinated manage to get the clocks to thirteen here.

Sometimes I wonder why the Repugs don't all move to China. You oppose democracy so much you must all be very unhappy here.

You need to come to the Baltimore Sun bulletin board and find me. Ask for Scott (or Kenect2 or My Two Cents or MithrilKnight, or Frodo or a slew of other names I use there). I would win any debate with any of you hands down and you still have not answered my theory about the squib charges set by the cronies of the Bush Evil Crime Family who started an illegal war and are war criminals and war profiteers.

Posted by: Scott Laughrey | May 27, 2006 04:44 PM

Doesn't give away that he is a fraud, does he? He actually sounds like a lot of other "Truthers". Like asking for a debate reminds me of Jon Gold. But he makes them sound crazy, and discourages people from (1) taking them seriously and (2) holding a civil debate with them about the real issues.

sl: "My attitude towards thoroughly corrupted MSM is, to borrow a line from Donald Trump, "You're fired!""

You know what's funny about that. Sometime during 2004, I believe, the Donald was a guest on the Regis & Kelly show (I was working out with the TV on lol) and Regis held up the front page of some New York paper, I believe, that had the statement that before 9/11, the U.S. could have killed Osama on 3 seperate occasions.

Then when Regis and Donald were making small comments about that etc. Donald made a small query as to how Osama, with Kidney disease, could remain at large and in an easily movable state to and fro from wherever he was roaming around, without lugging a big and expensive kidney dialysis machine with him.

Donald Trump is not stupid, and would have a lot to lose by going further than that publicly. But maybe if contacted -- when 9/11 truth is even stronger in the mainstream (soon) -- he would step up as an uber-prominent businessman in public support of 9/11 truth.

Only a thought. I only mention it because sl made the Trump comment.

This Scott Laughrey character is amazing!

I started doing some good ol' google digging and I've uncovered some Truth about this situation.

There are two entities: Scott Loughrey, who is a real critic of the Bush administration / neocons, and who is hot on the trail of a lot of explosive stuff!

see The Disinformation of Richard Clarke by Scott Loughrey

Amy Goodman, Left Gatekeeper; by Scott Loughrey

The Mysteries of 9/11 (I believe the spelling in the webpage title is a typo. Should be with an o)

etc.

Then there is Scott Laughrey (with an a - get it) who is not necessarily one person, but perhaps a group of people/agency/bot who I am starting to believe actually is part of the 9-11 conspiracy / neocon conspiracy / disinformation campaign that is desperately trying to discredit the real Scott Loughrey and throw the public off of the trail that reveals their guilt.

My advice to all Good and True citzens who are trying to investigate the Truth: do some more digging related to Scott Loughrey / Laughrey. There is some treasure under those rocks...

Here's an key webpage to this mystery: News Junkie Scott's Blog on Baltimore Indymedia aka 911 Hoax. Follow the links.

It's hard to tell what's going on here. Perhaps someone else can help figure it out. But this is for sure, here is one gem from the guilty party:

"This has been a test of the Emergency Loopy-Leftist Broadcast System. Had this been an actual loopy-leftist alert, you would have been invited to Scott's mother's basement to sing along with Scott and Alice on the first few bars from "Cumberland Blues" off of the Workingman's Dead LP. This concludes this test of the Emergency Loopy-Leftist Broadcast System. "

source - the bottom of this page from 8/10/05 of the mystery blog

- ideas-r-free

Posted by: still caught | May 29, 2006 10:36 AM
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Even if you wholeheartedly believe that 19 ragtag Arabs led by an ex-CIA asset on a dialysis machine hiding in a cave halfway around the world pulled off the biggest, most complicated and most successful terrorist strike ever all by themselves despite the best efforts of the trillion dollar a year mil/intel/justice/customs/law enforcement organizatons of the most powerful nation in world history, whose interests are you serving by promulgating this notion and cautioning those who speculate otherwise?

This is why I've never understood how any well-meaning individual could possibly spend time and energy policing those who question the events of 9/11 in ostensibly intelligent discussion groups. Even if 9/11 was not an inside job, we're far better off treating it as if it were -- because, despite the dubious official "narrative" of that day, the "9/11 changes everything" mantra has been successfully used to justify:

1- an insane invasion and occupation,
2- an Orwellian state of neverending warfare,
3- an all-out assault on our Bill of Rights and our Constitutional separation, balance and oversight of powers,
4- rampant and bald faced war profiteering and a huge increase in dubious mil/intel/security expenditures,
5- an insane doctrine of military pre-emption,
6- torture and rendition,
7- a culture of authoritarian secrecy,
8- the persecution of political dissent,
9- enraging the Muslim world and alienating the rest of the world,
10- etc., etc., etc.

while doing little or nothing to enhance our security or address the root causes OR symptoms of Islamic terror.

Our ports are no more secure than they were on 9/11, and they are being sold to an Arab government that recognized the Taliban. Our nuke plants are just as vulnerable as ever. The CAPPS II no-fly list supposedly protects us against a non-existent threat (when was the last time a US domestic flight was hijacked by a US citizen?) while actually HELPING any terrorist cell with the resources to do a few test runs before the big event. Finally, not one individual has been publicly held accountable for his or her failures on 9/11, and Homeland (Pork Barrel) Security proved its "worth" during the Katrina debacle.

All of this disgusting vileness and much more has gone down in the name of an incredibly dubious official conspiracy theory worthy of Doctor Evil and containing far more plot holes than any Ed Wood feature. And even assuming that this official conspiracy theory is remotely true, the problem of a few thousand hardcore fundamentalist Islamic terrorists would quite obviously be best addressed with a small but expertly trained team of covert infiltrators and special operations forces.

How can anyone with any political interests other than advancing elitist hegemony even further possibly find merit in policing those who rationally draw attention to dubious elements of the official 9/11 conspiracy theory -- regardless of his or her personal beliefs concerning the events of that day? Considering all the heinous shit that's been done in the name of the 9/11, why don't any non-regressives who still believe the official conspiracy theory at least have the common decency to keep quiet about it?