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9/11 FEMA videographer at Ground Zero goes public/ Voltairenet/ Buenos Airies/ June 22, 09

http://www.voltairenet.org/article160636.html

Kurt Sonnenfeld : Exclusive interview
9/11 FEMA videographer at Ground Zero goes public

Voltairenet
June 23, 2009

As official videographer for the U.S. government, Kurt Sonnenfeld was detailed to Ground Zero on September 11, 2001, where he spent one month filming 29 tapes: “What I saw at certain moments and in certain places … is very disturbing!” He never handed them over to the authorities and has been persecuted ever since. Kurt Sonnenfeld lives in exile in Argentina, where he wrote « El Perseguido » (the persecuted). His recently-published book tells the story of his unending nightmare and drives another nail into the coffin of the government’s account of the 9/11 events. Below is an exclusive interview by Voltairenet.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article160636.html

Dollar Bills

Just hope Sonnenfeld backed-up, uploaded and triple up-loaded his stuff. There's much much more to this story than even he is saying. I wish all this happened earlier, a lot earlier, but that some movement around it is happening now, is certainly welcome. Momentum is picking up again. Now we're racing against the likely US financial collapse.
Same players, my guess, differnt type of false flag, and this new one is made out of dollar bills.

John, have you seen

any of this guy's footage? Do you have reason to believe his credibility beyond wishful thinking? I have a deep distaste for the "cointelpro agent" witch hunts that some have gone on in this movement, but this guy seems a bit fishy to me. All I've seen are claims that almost read like bad fiction, with zero evidence to back it up. Have you seen different? Are you aware of ANYONE who has?

I agree

He mostly repeated 9/11 Truth "facts" that were outside of his direct experience. He didn't add anything of value from HIS story specifically. He didn't sound professional, knowledgeable or all that intelligent. I don't know what his agenda is, but at this point, I don't trust him.

That's an interesting comment.......

...from someone who probably hasn't read his book. Maybe you have or maybe you've simply read the few quotes on the internet like the rest of us. I am reserving judgment until I've read and learned more.....and so should you. If he is for real, he is putting himself and his young family in harms way for us and for the truth. If he is a plant, we'll figure it out. If he is the real deal, we need to help him and his family. I say let's work with it until such a time when problems with his story are obvious to everyone.

Posted by milongal

Pix and some video

For info, a blog for Sonnenfeld's book "El Perseguido" (The Persecuted") has links to some of his video and photos from Ground Zero.

Some of the photos contain good views of the cleanly cut steel beams, including one that is quite clearly "sliced" but has just slid a little and managed to get stuck more or less in place.

Open this link in FullScreen mode, and look at the top left corner.
http://picasaweb.google.com/Paula.sonnenfeld/WorldTradeCenterTorresGemel...

Very interesting shot of a basement level ceiling beam sliced vertically.
http://picasaweb.google.com/Paula.sonnenfeld/WorldTradeCenterTorresGemel...

Link to some video
http://groundzerovideo.blogspot.com/

Source for the above:
http://elperseguido.wordpress.com/fotos-y-videos/
Submitted by milongal on Wed, 06/24/2009 - 10:16am.
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re Sonnenfeld

publisher's website:
http://elperseguido.wordpress.com/fotos-y-videos/

Sonnenfeld Picasa pages:
http://picasaweb.google.com/Paula.sonnenfeld
[many previously unseen GZ photos!]

dustysquid, let's see the

dustysquid, let's see the "all" the guys tapes

Really interesting

Some of the things he mentions in the article are pretty provocative, like the vault being cracked open and emptied and the remnants being salvaged. I hope we are able to see this video and get some real answers some time in the very near future.

Here is a previous comment on blogger about photographers

Thanks to Debbie in Texas for alerting us to the story.

Here is a previous comment on Blogger http://www.911blogger.com/node/6960#comment-125321
and some more info at this TruthAction Thread http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5513

Attention Kurt Sonnenfeld
If Kurt Sonnenfeld needs to mail some DVD portions of the video footage, I suggest that he contact Reprehensor on this 911Blogger forum.

If Jones, Gage et al are

If Jones, Gage et al are reading, this evidence must be analyzed, documented and secured. Please, do what you can.

in English

His book needs to be translated into English ASAP. I really hope there are plans to do so.

Kurt Sonnenfeld: an inconvenient 9/11 witness

http://www.voltairenet.org/article160666.html

Buenos Aires
Kurt Sonnenfeld: an inconvenient 9/11 witness
May 8, 2009

Statement by Kurt Sonnenfeld:

Does anyone believe the official version offered as to what happened on September 11, 2001? There are many who say that the wildest conspiracy theory of all is the theory offered by the United States Government. Do you know that on the weekend prior to the attacks on the WTC, all electricity was cut off for approximately 36 hours, including the security cameras and control systems in a highly irregular “maintenance operation”? Do you know that in the weeks leading up to the attacks there were several unusual evacuations of both towers? Do you know that the company in charge of security at the World Trade Center was directed by Marvin Bush, George Bush’s younger brother, and Wirt Walker III, George Bush’s cousin? Do you know that the same security company also lists as government clients "the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S Air force, and the Department of Justice," and provides security for classified and high-risk government sites? Do you know that hundreds of government personnel were pre-positioned in New York City on September 10, preparing to do a large scale simulation of a terrorist attack to be carried out on September 12? FEMA officials had already set up their command post at Pier 92 near the World Trade Center one day before the attacks.

Do you know that the 47-story Salomon Smith Barney Building, officially known as Seven World Trade Center, imploded at 5:20 in the afternoon of September 11, 2001, some nine hours after American Airlines Flight 11 struck the North Tower? It took only about 6.5 seconds for the entire structure to fall straight down into itself, a half second more than the amount of time it would have taken a stone to hit the ground if you had dropped it from the roof in a vacuum. The collapse of Building Seven left a curiously small and tidy rubble pile, and the buildings to either side of it were relatively undamaged. It had not been hit by an airplane and had suffered only minor injuries to its structure when the Twin Towers collapsed.
Continues: http://www.voltairenet.org/article160666.html

I wrote this book to save my family.

Scarlett, Paula, Kurt and Natasha Sonnenfeld

I would like to read the last few pages to you:
Continues: http://www.voltairenet.org/article160666.html

Cornelius, in the above post

(oops, this got knocked down a bit, it should go under Cornelius' post to Jones, Gage, et al)

Cornelius, in the above post he does mention that he's aware of the scientists and professionals who are making recent strides and discoveries in the demolitions of all 3 WTC buildings. He obviously has access to a computer. Mass posting of his stuff would be a good way to ensure its survivability.

Maybe this is a bad idea but....

Why doesn't he publish the videos on youtube and elsewhere before they disappear and him too? He can't spend the rest of his life trying to avoid the PTB. He should publish everything he has.

this videographer sounds

this videographer sounds intelligent and professional. most certainly he's made copies and documented the process, along with distributing a number of copies to secure locations.

It seems strange that the

It seems strange that the interviews would be with Voltaire Network, which early on spread the debunked claim that a missile hit the Pentagon. Now people all over the world are duped with that nonsense. That doesn't bode well for this.

Vic, I respect you a lot,

Vic, I respect you a lot, but I don't think it's wise to hinge so much on what hit the pentagon, until someone in the FBI releases the nearly 80 surveillance videos of the pentagon filmed that day.

Surveillance videos

Just out of curiosity (don't waste time on it if it's too much trouble), do you happen to have a source that goes into that in detail? I mean the locations of the cameras, their owners, what they would have observed, what happened to those cameras afterwards, etc.)

ck Flight77.info- and here's links re Sonnenfeld

Scott Bingham and also JudicalWatch.org sued to get 85 vids the FBI said may be pursuant to Bingham's orginal FOIA request. Bingham let Flight77.info go and someone else bought it and archived all his stuff- i think he may now have a different website.

Considering the hundred eyewitnesses to impact, 90' gash in the Pentagon, 757-sized damage path and plane parts, people would do well to not make absolute claims that something other than a 757 hit the Pentagon.

Absolutely, the government should get up off the videos, pictures and documents proving it was 77 that hit the Pentagon; what are they trying to do- fuel "conspiracy theories", confuse people and divide the 9/11 Truth Movement????

Back to Sonnenfeld:

"As official videographer for the U.S. government, Kurt Sonnenfeld was detailed to Ground Zero on September 11, 2001, where he spent one month filming 29 tapes: "What I saw at certain moments and in certain places ... is very disturbing!" He never handed them over to the authorities and has been persecuted ever since."

If this guy was working for FEMA, it seems the tapes would belong to them- and if he refused to give them up cuz there's incriminating evidence on them, why's he been sitting on it for more than 7 years- why didn't he immediately do something with them?

"Voltaire Network: As we said, deciding to write this book and to go public was a huge step. What pushed you to do it?

Kurt Sonnenfeld: To save my family. And to let the world know that things are not what they seem."

From what he says at voltaire, he's obviously familiar with some of the other claims surrounding 9/11, not just what he's a witness to.

If he's a whistleblower, and is being persecuted and has incriminating video, he needs to release it already- it's going on 8 years after 9/11

This article from 2007 says 2 inmates said he confessed to the murder while in jail- although it wouldn't be the first time incarcerated criminals lied for a deal.
Claims of 9/11 conspiracy have suspect running scared
Former Denverite says 9/11 work has made him a target
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_55554...

Wife filed for separation a month before she died, suicide note was later found behind a picture of Kurt:

Sonnenfeld charges dropped
FEMA worker's wife was found shot in head at their Denver home on New Year's Day
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_12081...

Google News Archive
http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22Kurt+Sonnenfeld%22&scoring=a&h...

http://911reports.com

Best if we agreed to minimize public Pentagon discussion.

I think we would all probably be better off discussing the Pentagon less than the WTC in public.

We have nowhere near the amount of evidence on the Pentagon we do the WTC

John, the point is that it

John, the point is that it was a baseless claim that no one supported and it was spread worldwide by this organization, not just around the internet, but in books to countries all over the Arab world and Europe, translated into many languages.

If the FBI releases those videos and they happen to show AA 77 hitting the building, that's it -- the MSM can basically destroy the movement in one fell swoop with one weekend of repeating that image over and over.

With how many people are hinging so much on the idea that AA77 didn't hit there -- even though many people have shown strong evidence that it could have -- and with the videos in their hands, not ours, it's ultimately a pretty dangerous gamble.

Thar she blows!

Vic, the Pentagon is your White Whale. Although your observations about this story are dead-on in my opinion, you're just wrong about the power of the Pentagon myth (no matter what it was), and you waste way too much time with your obsessive dire warnings about it. Let it go. It's not going to "destroy the movement in one fell swoop" if they do what you've been predicting for years, and it is years past due for them to pull that stunt in a way that would really be useful to them. That move lost value a long time ago.

>>It's not going to "destroy

>>It's not going to "destroy the movement in one fell swoop"

That's called a crystal ball. If you have one, let me know. Assuming only the best will happen, and never the worst, might not be a great strategy for a group that claims that US insiders blew up the WTC.

>>it is years past due for them to pull that stunt in a way that would really be useful to them.

Assuming one knows when it's really useful for them, or was, and why.

But it's likely that only THEY know when it's most useful. Assuming you know it as well as they do is presumptive. So far, they've only had to use labels, debunkers and the left icons to do their work for them to sideline us. At some point, something serious might occur that they cannot control, and then the video could emerge.

The clever ways the public was manipulated with 9/11 are for a reason. The same reason Bush talked about how dangerous the conspiracy theorists were on the 5th Anniversary, the same reason that Morgan Reynolds explained how the planes were cartoons in NYC on Fox News. These aren't nothing. Some people have a lot to lose. They wouldn't bother taking the CTs down if it wasn't worth it to them.

Crystal ball

That's interesting. You seem to employ one constantly while predicting the worst about this Pentagon revelation that never comes. Years on and you still seem to think the movement should be cowering under our desks at the thought of the tapes finally "proving" AA77 hit after all. Gosh, that will totally destroy the thermite and all the rest of the evidence and all the rest of it, as well as magically un-convince the millions of people who already realize it was an inside job. You treat the revelation you foresee in your crystal ball as though it has magical powers that will kill the movement as surely as kryptonite would kill Superman.

The rest of your post is all speculation intended to warn how dangerous mine is. Neat bit of sophistry.

I agree with John above - until we see the tapes and prove they are authentic there's no point in exerting much effort on a conclusion about the Pentagon.

>>Years on and you still

>>Years on and you still seem to think the movement should be cowering under our desks at the thought of the tapes finally "proving" AA77 hit after all.

Avoiding hype and speculation on weak evidence isn't exactly cowering under a desk. It's mainly just critical thinking.

>> Gosh, that will totally destroy the thermite and all the rest of the evidence and all the rest of it, as well as magically un-convince the millions of people who already realize it was an inside job.

We went to war in a country for no reason -- magic does work when you have a limitless black budget to propagandize the public. The people we are trying to reach are not the ones who already know about nano-thermite and inside job, but the ones who could know if we can get the info to them.

>>I agree with John above - until we see the tapes and prove they are authentic there's no point in exerting much effort on a conclusion about the Pentagon.

I'm not sure that's what John is saying, but imo, the problem is not the exertion, it's doing it objectively, which most cannot do, usually insisting on throwing out one or another part of the evidence that contradicts the conclusion they have already reached.

Ah

When you put it like that I realize how misguided my perspective has been. Thanks. Now you can declare Victory and we can move on.

Vic, This entire topic is

Vic, This entire topic is really about "video evidence". Video evidence exists and can still help the movement. Sonnenfeld needs to upload "all" his videos asap to our reputable scientific team- Jones, Chandler, Hoffman, Harrit et al. The FBI tapes need to be revealed through court proceedings. The bottom line is, we need to see the tapes and any other valid evidence that can shed some light on the truth. At AE911Truth, we are focused on the three World Trade buildings and what happened there. That's our strongest tact right now and I am happy with that. As to Sonnenfeld's moral character, I don't know what to say. I've never met the guy, but if someone wants to fly me down to Argentina to interview him, I'm all ears.

John

FOLLOW UP is requested

Please don't let this drop off the radar!!! This is a VERY important new piece to the puzzle. I hope to GOD someone trustworthy and with some knowledge of video is in contact or is planning on getting in contact with this man to disect what he has. I am soooo grateful as we all should be that he has stepped out and has written this book. I haven't searched it yet, but i want to try to obtain a copy--and yes, an english version would be most beneficial to our cause.
Please spread this info! People need to hear his story. You never know what it is about some stories/some people that will cause a skeptic of the truth to open their eyes and digg deeper. This may appeal to those that were previously turned off to whatever exposure they may or may not have had to questioning the government's "official" theory.

FOLLOW UP with any news on this man, his book etc. please.

Thanks for posting!!!!!!

Google his name

There are many postings of this man coming out so we are not just relying on Votaire for exposure :)

"La CIA se llevó todos sus documentos del edificio 6... un día a

Kurt Sonnenfeld, el camarografo que filmó el 90% de la imagenes que trasmitieron los noticieros el 11 de septiembre de 2001, y que internet sigue trasmitiendo, también trabajó en un puesto en la casa blanca, y no le tiembla el pulso al declarar que el 11-s fue un auto-atentado, y que trataron de callarlo mediante acusaciones de asesinato( de las cuales alió libre por obvias razones), toturas, y encarcelamientos.

spanish

Dang it! now i really wish i knew spanish!

from

from http://translation2.paralink.com/

Kurt Sonnenfeld, the cameraman who filmed 90 % of the images that the newscasters transmitted on September 11, 2001, and that Internet keeps on transmitting, also was employed at a position at the white house, and him the pulse does not tremble on having declared that 11-s it was an auto-offence, and that they tried to keep silent about it by means of accusations of murder (of which it allied free for obvious reasons), toturas, and imprisonments.

The Video

No worries, the video says pretty much the exact same thing as the voltaire interview. You aren't missing anything.

Book Availability??

I can't find where to buy his book---does anyone know if it is available yet and if so, where, and if so, in English???

re buying sonnenfeld book

It can be ordered here: http://maidana.com/marco2008/inicio.php
$59.00 (if that's Argentine pesos, it works out to less than US$16

The first mention I ever heard of him, and his legal troubles, was this page:
http://redlineav.com/photos.depot.html
...which is part of the Tom Gordon pages:
http://redlineav.com/tsg.deposition.contd.2.html
...and the Sonnenfeld text changed a couple of years ago. It initially, if memory serves, presumed that his wife was murdered by coverup people. But don't take my word for that.

He's a contractor

"Additionally, Kurt Sonnenfeld was contracted by several other governmental agencies and programs for classified and “sensitive” operations at military and scientific installations throughout the United States."

We have entered a new phase of CIA propaganda since Von Brunn, where there seems to be somewhat of a pattern: likely disinfo operatives announce their affiliations with intelligence services openly; perhaps to preempt and defuse attempts by the 9/11 truth movement to do background checks. I'm speculating, but it's worth mentioning this pattern, chronologically as has appeared recently on 911blogger:

  • Mike Baker (Former CIA operative, does the Holocaust denier/terrorist/anti-semite mantra with Glenn Beck)
  • Larry Johnson (Former CIA analyst, writes "9-11 Conspiracy Nuts Persist")
  • Miles Kara (Former 9/11 commission staff, intelligence operative, "starts blog" and attempts to "debunk" 9/11 truth citing JREF)

The spooks seem to be crawling out of the woodwork. (The not-so-much-a-whistleblower-but-a-stooge types)

"I am convinced that my tapes reveal many more anomalies than I am capable of recognizing given my limited qualifications. I will therefore cooperate in any way that I can with serious and reliable experts in a common endeavour to expose the truth."

Let's hope he's the real deal. I want some material (=deeds) from this man. Send the tapes to Prof. Jones, now!

which is it?

Okay, we hope and hope for whistleblowers, people with inside info to come out of hiding--risk everything for the pursuit of truth, and yet when/if they do, they have to be scutinized by us because they were an insider?

Not everyone that hs ties to the "governement" is tainted! The government is full of people--everydaay u.s. citizens. They are not all bad people that take bribes and can't be trusted. My goodness, the man steps forward with some inside info and has possesion of evidence--is asking for someone credibleto analyze it. Please try and give him the benefit of the doubt until otherwise proven differently. Don't let the bad guys efforts of trying to discredit him work on us too.

With open eyes

Not accusations, but rather the importance of proceeding with our eyes wide open was what I took from Snow Crash's comment.

Yes

You took that correctly.

Tonya, I'm well aware of the fact that government agencies deliver us every type of fruit in the basket, from whistleblowers to stooges, but if you can spare seven minutes or so:

The article "Dr William F. Pepper on MLK Jr and the 9/11 Truth Movement" and the accompanying video featuring Pepper explain it very well. (Take particular note of Dr. Pepper's reference to elements "wanting to take control" of his investigation)

I hope he brings useful material to the table and that he does so quickly, because all of this is way overdue. I don't know what he has been waiting for......Prof. Jones can be contacted since what..2005? I don't know how to say this tactfully, but I expect certain specific things from a man who had the privilege of walking around sanctioned on Ground Zero with a camera, and I expect them rather quickly...absent those things, I don't really consider him trustworthy. I'm saying this with Dr. Pepper's advice in mind.

Edit:
For example, in this article, reposted in this thread in this comment,
Sonnenfeld makes the claim:

Do you know that the company in charge of security at the World Trade Center was directed by Marvin Bush, George Bush’s younger brother, and Wirt Walker III, George Bush’s cousin?

This claim has long been known to be incorrect, in multiple ways. Securacom/Stratesec was not "in charge of security at the World Trade Center", it was not directed by Marvin Bush on 9/11 (he stepped down in 2000), and Wirt Walker III is not "George Bush's cousin". These sorts of errors are embarrassing and delegitimize investigation into Securacom/Stratesec's role in 9/11, and the influence of Marvin Bush. For better information, look here, but note that even the mainstream media gets the Wirt Walker III "distant relative" claim wrong. By the way, Sonnenfeld may have simply copied this erroneous claim from prof. David Ray Griffin.

Any relation at all?

'...note that even the mainstream media gets the Wirt Walker III "distant relative" claim wrong.'

I'm a little unclear as to what you may have meant by this. Do you mean that it is certain that GWB and Wirt Walker III are NOT related at all? Do you know what their relation is (if that can be stated with any precision)?

I knew about Marvin stepping down in 2000; and that, while Securacom/Stratesec did some of the work in installing a new security system at the WTC, that's not the same as having been 'in charge of security' there.

But this is the first I've heard (if that is indeed what you mean here) that there is no blood relation between Wirt Walker III and the Bush brothers.

Just look at the name: 'Wirt Walker III'. It's so WASPy elite, there just has to be a connection to the Bushes!

Or, maybe not....

It appears that

If they are related at all, it goes back at least five generations. I have attempted to find a link by looking into the genealogy. Here's a few starting points:

Wirt Dexter Walker III is a descendant of Wirt Dexter Walker, a Chicago railroad magnate. He is not descended from George Herber Walker, the St. Louis banker, who is the great-grandfather of President Bush. Despite the similarity of names, Stratesec is the only connection between the families.

(Source: http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=1940&name=Wirt-D-Wa...)

Dorothy Walker
http://genealogy.about.com/od/presidents/p/george_bush.htm

No matter how hard I tried, I couldn't find a link. It seems that what we have here is two last names that look alike.

ok, agreed

i do agree we must be careful. But I guess as quickly as some question him, i am as quick to be interested in pursuing what he says or you may say "claim".

yeah, on the other hand

better late than never. I hope it's valuable material. Without additional people opening up, we wouldn't have much progress either.

Hope I'm Wrong..Does he Still Have Tapes?

Untill there is some new footage that he has shot I wonder if he actually has possesion. Seems kinda strange that they still haven't been made public. I'm hoping he is telling the truth.

Send all the evidence to Seymor Hirsh,

Mark Cuban, Rachel Maddow, Jessie Ventura, Richard Gage, Ray McGovern, Nancy Pelosi..,Prof.Jones & Daniel Sunjata, Collen Rowley & Tom Hartman

Game over.

I dont know about some of

I dont know about some of those suggestions--stick with truthers first--the others are not dedicated to the truth like we are

Why send it to "truthers" only?

If legit, it needs to reach a WIDER audience.

well, i guess im just

well, i guess im just thinking that we need to see it first b4 the msm gets a first look and trashes it or downplays it or changes it in some way. Then we would be aware of what they are ignoring. I just dont trust msm. I dont have my hopes up for it beacuse we have great evidence now that they wont look at or give the time of day. I really dont know what it will take for them to give this coverage---proper coverage. Send it whereever anyone is willing to look is probably best--just get it to some top truthers that are capable of analyzing it so we know what we have AND to see if this guy is for real or is setting us up. I am hoping he is for real but analyzing what he says he has first would be best b4 the msm get ahold of it and claim it is what we hold as real evidence when in fact it could be a set up---balh blah--i gotta go but basically we do have to cover our butts here AND give him a chance to proove he is legit at the same time. I just hope it happens soon. Im impatient.

Sonnenfeld stood trial for murder of his wife in 02'

he was let off as the ruled the shot to her head a suicide.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/3703110/detail.html

A helluva witness. We will have to wait and see how this one plays out.

http://www.711911.webs.com/
http://www.northtexas911truth.com/
http://9-11.meetup.com/249/

he mentions this in the

he mentions this in the article--about many attempts to discredit him.

Digg story

I found a digg story about this:
http://digg.com/world_news/Kurt_Sonnenfeld_an_inconvenient_9_11_witness_...

Needs some more diggs to get higher on the radar. This is fantastic!

Tapes or "no tapes", certainly some people are sweating...

There are probably many intimate details of events which have occurred to Kurt of which we might not fully grasp the impact. We have heard accounts of simular experiences with people like William F Pepper or Steve Jones and others.
Tapes or "no tapes", certainly some people are sweating. Perhaps from Kurt's point of view, releasing all the tapes is a "path once started" on which there is no turning back. He might attempt a "trickle" of footage to come out.
We can also assume that there are hidden government operatives who support the 9/11 Truth Movement along with operatives who are trying to suppress the Movement.

I wonder if any truthers in Denver knew Kurt.

Is Kurt Sonnelfel a Cointel Pro product in our Orwellian world?

John MITCHELL
Herblay FRANCE

Bonjour

we are nearing the 911 truth and getting further away in time from the horrible day of the 11th September 2001. Fading away also the vital 911 witness testimony non registered. The watering down of forensic nano-thermite on Staten Island. Nearly eight years and the 911 mass murder have still not been put before the justice. We are being inundated with useful and bad information.

The agents of the CIA have been trained as masters in cointelpro. They are trained to put out truth and lies in order to confuse the enemy and any one who is not in their camp.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

There are lots of examples where the CIA has lied to the world.
1) http://futiledemocracy.com/2009/05/20/the-lie-machine/
2) http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.moz...
3) http://dissidentvoice.org/Articles8/DN_Iran-Coup-1953.htm
4) and more, and more , ..., ..., ...,

We have lost count of the number of lies George Bush and his government gave out.

We are now in an ORWELLIAN world where the truth is hard to find and back dated articles to muddy the water.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orwellian

IS KURT SONNELFEL A RED HERRING ?
He has not had a straight life as he is accused of killing his wife and being a heroin addict
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/1247646/detail.html
http://www.voltairenet.org/article160636.html

I like many on this 911blogger would like to see Kurt Sonnenfel's major forensic video from ground zero which could help us in our investigation but will the Kurt Sonnenfel episode just be used to explain why the FBI do not have any video of ground zero? It seems that Kurt was the only one allowed to take video. Will we learn in some months that his important video has been lost forever by his négligence ?

I will be following this trail but I have more hope in the dust analyse for nano-thermite from the WTC destruction 11/09/2001 samples, guarded preciously by the different government agencies (Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA), etc ) . I am hoping that forensic tests for nano-thermite will be done on the > million of tons of WTC debris stocked on Staten Island.
http://www.911blogger.com/node/20109




Yours

John

Thanks

Interesting, heroin use raises additional doubts, because heroin junkies will do absolutely anything for a fix. However, the paper talks about the testimony from the detective, but not about the testimony from Sonnenfeld. Did he confirm or deny heroin use during the trial? Was drug use proven?

Care to research...

... whether Sonnefeld ever admitted to regular heroin use or if it was just hearsay?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=QVZ&ei=KI1CSqf...

--
"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Dir. Bldg. & Fire Research Lab. (NIST)
"We are [still] unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse." (NIST)

good link

How does heroin affect someone's video tape and/or video files?

If his eyesight was distorted enough to make the videotape fuzzy, he would have been too high to walk, never mind work.

Skeptical

I've read this guy's claims before and yet I have never seen any of his footage. Why hasn't he released it to the public in the last 8 years? His observations about the suspicious things he saw mostly sound like they were repeated from Loose Change.

I hope he's for real, but this just seems a little fishy.

He's got a Nobel Peace Prize winner vouching for him

You probably ought to be rooting for him. This is big chance at a breakthrough, with a very important person in the world providing support. We're

not going to have a better chance than this.

If Sonnenfeld is a disinfo plant, we're done. We will not recover from that.

Don't be silly, my friend

We have so much evidence that the only thing that can stop us is if we stop ourselves by giving up.

The Sonnenfeld story is just one more possible source, one more dot to connect (if his story checks out).

I do expect increasing attempts to distract, derail and defame the truth movement as our numbers grow and as we continue to get more exposure. This is a perverse measure of our success.

Love is a verb, brothers and sisters, let's get busier!

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Pix and some video

For info, a blog for Sonnenfeld's book "El Perseguido" (The Persecuted") has links to some of his video and photos from Ground Zero.

Some of the photos contain good views of the cleanly cut steel beams, including one that is quite clearly "sliced" but has just slid a little and managed to get stuck more or less in place.

Open this link in FullScreen mode, and look at the top left corner.
http://picasaweb.google.com/Paula.sonnenfeld/WorldTradeCenterTorresGemel...

Very interesting shot of a basement level ceiling beam sliced vertically.
http://picasaweb.google.com/Paula.sonnenfeld/WorldTradeCenterTorresGemel...

Link to some video
http://groundzerovideo.blogspot.com/

Source for the above:
http://elperseguido.wordpress.com/fotos-y-videos/

Thanks for the links

Interesting, but you'd think that if he had photos and videos that were definitive smoking guns in some way he'd want to highlight them.

re Sonnenfeld

publisher's website:
http://elperseguido.wordpress.com/fotos-y-videos/

Sonnenfeld Picasa pages:
http://picasaweb.google.com/Paula.sonnenfeld
[many previously unseen GZ photos!]

What? You think...

...Sonnefeld and Sanford were having an affair?

snicker, snicker

--
"But truthfully, I don't really know. We've had trouble getting a handle on Building No. 7."
~Dr. Shyam Sunder - Acting Dir. Bldg. & Fire Research Lab. (NIST)
"We are [still] unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse." (NIST)

Kurt Sonnenfeld > Pro Quest Document list

http://www.proquest.com/en-US/

VIDEOGRAPHER FOR FEMA CHARGED IN WIFE'S DEATH:[REGIONAL Edition]
Sue Lindsay News Staff Writer. Rocky Mountain News. Denver, Colo.:Jan 9,
2002. p. 10A

Slay suspect barred police from home:[Rockies Edition]
John Ingold Denver Post Staff Writer. Denver Post. Denver, Colo.:Jan 3,
2002. p. B.01

RESPONSE TO TERROR; IN BRIEF / COLORADO; Relief Worker Accused of Killing
His Wife:[Home Edition]
Los Angeles Times. Los Angeles, Calif.:Jan 3, 2002. p. A.4

SONNENFELD'S WIFE FILED FOR A SEPARATION IN NOVEMBER ; HUSBAND ORDERED HELD
IN MURDER PROBE:[FINAL Edition]
Hector Gutierrez News Staff Writer. Rocky Mountain News. Denver, Colo.:Jan
3, 2002. p. 5A

SWAT TEAM SHOOTS, KILLS MAN WHO OPENED FIRE:[Broward Metro Edition]
Wire Reports. South Florida Sun - Sentinel. Fort Lauderdale, Fla.:Jan 3,
2002. p. 3A

Man jailed in wife's death;
ASSOCIATED PRESS. Telegraph - Herald. Dubuque, Iowa:Jan 3, 2002. p. A.7

NATION IN BRIEF:[FINAL Edition]
The Washington Post. Washington, D.C.:Jan 3, 2002. p. A11

Man, 39, arrested in shooting death of wife:[Rockies Edition]
John Ingold Denver Post Staff Writer. Denver Post. Denver, Colo.:Jan 2,
2002. p. B.01

VIDEOGRAPHER AT WTC JAILED IN WIFE'S DEATH ; FEMA PHOTOGRAPHER ARRESTED AT
HOSPITAL AFTER SPOUSE DIES OF BULLET WOUND IN CHEST:[FINAL Edition]
Peggy Lowe and Lynn Bartels News Staff Writers. Rocky Mountain News.
Denver, Colo.:Jan 2, 2002. p. 4A

Public affairs officers pressed into service as TV cameramen in NYC:[FINAL
Edition]
Peter Johnson. USA TODAY. McLean, Va.:Sep 27, 2001. p. D.04

'Now he's lying about the USA,' family says:[FINAL Edition]
Sue Lindsay, Rocky Mountain News. Rocky Mountain News (2007-Current).
Denver, Colo.:May 23, 2007. p. 6

Suspect sees dark motives in slaying case ; Former Denverite says 9/11 work
has made him a target:[FINAL Edition]
Sue Lindsay, Rocky Mountain News. Rocky Mountain News (2007-Current).
Denver, Colo.:May 23, 2007. p. 6

WANTED IN DENVER, FREE IN ARGENTINA:[FINAL Edition]
Rocky Mountain News. Rocky Mountain News. Denver, Colo.:Oct 1, 2005.
p. 15A

Return of suspect could take up to year, DA says Morrissey is weighing his
options because Mexico won't turn over a suspect who faces execution.:[Final
Edition]
Howard Pankratz Denver Post Staff Writer. Denver Post. Denver, Colo.:Jun
5, 2005. p. A.04

Photographer held in '02 Denver killing:[Final Edition]
Kirk Mitchell Denver Post Staff Writer. Denver Post. Denver, Colo.:Sep 3,
2004. p. B.01

DISMISSED MURDER CHARGE FILED AGAIN ; FORMER DENVER MAN ARRESTED AGAIN IN
WIFE'S 2002 SHOOTING:[FINAL Edition]
Sue Lindsay, Rocky Mountain News. Rocky Mountain News. Denver, Colo.:Sep
3, 2004. p. 4A

Briefs:[A Edition 1]
Sunday Star - Times. Wellington, New Zealand:Jun 16, 2002. p. A; 13

ACCUSED OF WIFE'S MURDER, MAN FREE ; KURT SONNENFELD IS `OVERWHELMED':[FINAL
Edition]
Sue Lindsay News Staff Writer. Rocky Mountain News. Denver, Colo.:Jun 15,
2002. p. 1B

FREEDOM, TEARS FOR SONNENFELD ; MAN JAILED SIX MONTHS IN WIFE'S MURDER SAYS
HE'S LOST WITHOUT HER:[FINAL Edition]
Rocky Mountain News. Denver, Colo.:Jun 15, 2002. p. 1A

Charges dropped in woman's death Evidence against husband insufficient:
[Final Edition]
Kirk Mitchell Denver Post Staff Writer. Denver Post. Denver, Colo.:Jun 14,
2002. p. B.01

SONNENFELD CHARGES DROPPED ; FEMA WORKER'S WIFE WAS FOUND SHOT IN HEAD AT
THEIR DENVER HOME ON NEW YEAR'S DAY:[FINAL Edition]
Sue Lindsay News Staff Writer. Rocky Mountain News. Denver, Colo.:Jun 14,
2002. p. 30A

MAN PLEADS NOT GUILTY TO SLAYING:[FINAL Edition]
Rocky Mountain News. Denver, Colo.:Mar 5, 2002. p. 15A

CORRECTIONS:[FINAL Edition]
Rocky Mountain News. Denver, Colo.:Mar 2, 2002. p. 2A

Wife sought separation just before her death:[Rockies Edition]
Howard Pankratz Denver Post Legal Affairs Writer. Denver Post. Denver,
Colo.:Feb 22, 2002. p. B.01

DENVER MAN FACES TRIAL IN WIFE'S DEATH ; HE SAYS SHE KILLED HERSELF ON NEW
YEAR'S:[FINAL Edition]
Sue Lindsay News Staff Writer. Rocky Mountain News. Denver, Colo.:Feb 22,
2002. p. 4A

METRO DIGEST:[Rockies Edition]
Denver Post. Denver, Colo.:Jan 11, 2002. p. B.02

WAITING AS THE WHEELS TURN:[FINAL Edition]
Rocky Mountain News. Denver, Colo.:Jan 11, 2002. p. 4A

MURDER SUSPECT'S HEARING TODAY:[FINAL Edition]
Rocky Mountain News. Denver, Colo.:Jan 10, 2002. p. 25A

METRO DIGEST:[Rockies Edition]
Denver Post. Denver, Colo.:Jan 9, 2002. p. B.02

MAN CHARGED IN WIFE'S SLAYING:[FINAL Edition]
Rocky Mountain News. Denver, Colo.:Jan 9, 2002. p. 23A

Bret batters Texas coast Populated areas spared storm's fury:[Rockies
Edition]
Kelley Shannon The Associated Press. Denver Post. Denver, Colo.:Aug 23,
1999. p. A-01

NEW YORK NEWSDAY/QUEENS PROFILE Kurt Sonnenfeld:[QUEENS Edition]
By Sheila Thomson. Newsday. (Combined Editions). Long Island, N.Y.:Jan 17,
1995. p. B.06

Back in May of 2007, I wrote to Sue Lindsay

author of the Rocky Mountain News article on Kurt Sonnenfeld.

In my email to her I offered support from the 9/11 Truth Movement and suggested (if I remember correctly; I cleaned out my sent folder a long time ago) that posting some of Kurt Sonnenfeld's 9/11 video footage online (such as on YouTube) would be a good idea. Unfortunately, I never got a response.

Related blog: http://www.911blogger.com/node/8831