JFK and 9/11 - Insights Gained From Studying Both

Peter Dale Scott gave an excellent talk yesterday at the COPA (Coalition on Political Assassinations) Regional Meeting in Dallas, Texas. Scott points out similarities that he has encountered as a researcher studying JFK and 9/11, and covers a wide assortment of anomalies and evidence in this one hour presentation.

Scott talks about Continuity of Government, the a priori existence of "lone nut" profiles to offer cover for covert operations, and how drug trafficking lurks in the background all the while - how "Al Qaeda" is linked to this drug traffic, how it was dismissed by the 9/11 Commission, and the relevance of the case of Sibel Edmonds as well as that of Indira Singh.

Scott focuses on Cheney's activities on the morning of 9/11, conflicting accounts of his actions that day, and offers an avenue of research for dedicated data hounds that relates to both JFK and 9/11 - archived logs of White House communications that are kept by a specific government office - the White House Communications Agency.

During the talk, Scott mentions the Mary Ferrell Foundation - this name may be unfamiliar to 9/11 researchers, so here is a link to the Foundation's website which may offer a model of sorts for future 9/11 archiving activities.

For me, this speech was the highlight of the conference, as I have been following Scott's work for a couple of years now. I can recommend his books that I have read so far; The War Conspiracy (1972), and Drugs Oil and War (2003). Due to be published next year is Scott's latest on 9/11; The Road to 9/11. I'm sure it will have the same top-notch scholarship & analysis as his other work.

Special thanks to John Judge and the other members of COPA for making this event happen. For more information on COPA, write to Judge here: copa (at) starpower.net

For a high-quality DVD of the COPA meeting (including Scott's talk) contact Ralph at Justice Vision:


email: ralph (at) justicevision.org

Phone: 213-747-6345

Ralph is a dedicated documenter of conferences of this type, and has lots of DVDs to sell.

I'll up the other presentations I videotaped as I have time... check back later.

(Peter Dale Scott's talk is Copyright 2006, Peter Dale Scott.)

(As a matter of continuity, note that Scott refers to the order to ground all commercial flights on 9/11 as a "stand down" order, please don't confuse this with an order to "stand down" fighter response on 9/11. A correction: Scott calls Lance's book: A Thousand Years of Deception, but the book is A Thousand Years for Revenge.)

Alex Jones 2004 Video on JFK -Bush Connection

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His email address is there.

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The head of a team of scientists studying the potential health effects of 9/11, reported:
"Fires are still actively burning and the smoke is very intense. In some pockets now being uncovered, they are finding molten steel."
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Here is a couple of sources about molten metal

"Handheld app eased recovery tasks"
"Government Computer News. Retrieved on 1 October 2006. “'In the first few weeks, sometimes when a worker would pull a steel beam from the wreckage, the end of the beam would be dripping molten steel,' Fuchek said.” Cited by Jones in "Why Indeed Did the World Trade Center Buildings Completely Collapse?"

USGS Thermal study: http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/thermal.r09.html

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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

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Thompson is looking at a Pakistani ;)

I have a book of Scott's

I have a book of Scott's poetry forthcoming from the local library.

Is that John Judge loitering around in the background?


That's Judge in the background.

I didn't know PDS was a poet.

If it's good enough for OJ...

O.J. Simpson: If I Did It, Here's How it Happened

Hey if OJ can do it...what about W? ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Thanks for your good work Jon...another real hero in my book.


But everyone who makes an honest effort to get the facts out about 9/11 is a hero.

"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

What an amazing talk...

As I was watching this, the phrase from Allen Dulles kept popping into my head. "Americans Don't Read." Peter Dale Scott is the personification of what happens when you DO read.

And his analysis is brilliant. I was surprised he didn't mention that 15 of the 19 hijackers got their visas from the CIA Consulate in Jeddah.

September 1987-March 1989: Head US Consular Official Claims He’s Told to Issue Visas to Unqualified Applicants
Michael Springmann, head US consular official in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, later claims that during this period he is “repeatedly told to issue visas to unqualified applicants.” He turns them down, but is repeatedly overruled by superiors. Springmann loudly complains to numerous government offices, but no action is taken. He is fired and his files on these applicants are destroyed. He later learns that recruits from many countries fighting for bin Laden against Russia in Afghanistan were funneled through the Jeddah office to get visas to come to the US, where the recruits would travel to train for the Afghan war. According to Springmann, the Jeddah consulate was run by the CIA and staffed almost entirely by intelligence agents. This visa system may have continued at least through 9/11, and 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers received their visas through Jeddah, possibly as part of this program. [BBC, 11/6/2001; Associated Press, 7/17/2002; Fox News, 7/18/2002]

April 3-7, 1999: Three Hijackers Obtain US Visas
Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almihdhar’s US visas. [Source: FBI] (click image to enlarge) Hijackers Nawaf Alhazmi, Salem Alhazmi, and Khalid Almihdhar obtain US visas through the US Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. [US Congress, 7/24/2003] All three are already “al-Qaeda veterans” and battle-hardened killers. Almihdhar’s visa is issued on April 7, and he thereafter leaves and returns to the US multiple times until April 6, 2000. [Stern, 8/13/2003] Nawaf Alhazmi gets the same kind of visa; details about Salem are unknown. The CIA claims the hijackers then travel to Afghanistan to participate in “special training” with at least one other suicide bomber on a different mission. The training is led by Khallad bin Attash. The US learns about Almihdhar’s visa in January 2000. The Jeddah Consulate keeps in its records the fact that Nawaf and Alhazmi obtain US visas several days before Almihdhar, but apparently these records are never searched before 9/11. [US Congress, 7/24/2003 ]

May 21, 2002: Fraudulent Consular Staff Admits to Providing Hijackers with Visas
Abdulla Noman, a former employee of the US consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, where 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers got their visas, says that he took money and gifts to provide fraudulent visas to foreigners. He pleads guilty and is convicted. About 50 to 100 visas were improperly issued by Noman from September 1996 until November 2001, when he was arrested. However, a former visa officer in Jeddah, Michael Springmann, has claimed in the past that the Jeddah office was notorious for purposefully giving visas to terrorists to train in the US (see September 1987-March 1989). [Associated Press, 5/21/2002]

July 4, 2001: Hijacker Who Should Have Been on Watch List Re-enters US Without Difficulty
Hijacker Khalid Almihdhar reenters the US. The CIA and FBI have recently been showing interest in him, but have still failed to place him on a watch list of US-designated terrorists. Had he been placed on a watch list by this date, he would have been stopped and possibly detained as he tried to enter the US. He enters on a new US visa obtained in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, on June 13, 2001. [US Congress, 7/24/2003 ] The FBI notes that he returns just days after the last of the hijacker “muscle” has entered the US, and speculates that he returns because his job in bringing them over is finished. [US Congress, 7/24/2003 ]

October 23, 2002: Handling of Hijackers’ Visa Applications Denounced
Visa applications for the 15 Saudi Arabian hijackers are made public, and six separate experts agree: “All of them should have been denied entry [into the US].” Joel Mowbray, who first breaks the story for the conservative National Review, says he is shocked by what he saw: “I really was expecting al-Qaeda to have trained their operatives well, to beat the system. They didn’t have to beat the system, the system was rigged in their favor from the get-go.” A former US consular officer says the visas show a pattern of criminal negligence. Some examples: “Abdulaziz Alomari claimed to be a student but didn’t name a school; claimed to be married but didn’t name a spouse; under nationality and gender, he didn’t list anything.” “Khalid Almihdhar ... simply listed ‘Hotel’ as his US destination—no name, no city, no state but no problem getting a visa.” Only one actually gave a US destination, and one stated his destination as “no.” Only Hani Hanjour had a slight delay in acquiring his visa. His first application was flagged because he wrote he wanted to visit for three years when the legal limit is two. When he returned two weeks later, he simply changed the form to read “one year” and was accepted. The experts agree that even allowing for chance, incompetence, and human error, the odds were that only a few should have been approved. [New York Post, 10/9/2002; ABC News, 10/23/2002]

BIG THANKS to reprehensor for attending, filming, and posting this!

"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

What's Scott's source for

What's Scott's source for the fact that the FBI had the list of hijackers on the morning of September 11th? I missed that.



Richard Clarke heard that the FBI had the names at 9:59 AM, the time of the collapse of WTC Tower 2. See Richard A. Clarke, Against All Enemies: Inside America’s War on Terrorism (New York: Simon & Schuster, 2004), 13-14; Thompson, The Terror Timeline, 441.”

"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Al Qaeda and The Mob: How the FBI Blew It on 9/11

FBI incompetence theory re: 9/11 on a HuffPo blog today:


For those...

Interested in the "incompetence theory" and 9/11, watch this.

It has nothing to do with 9/11, but it gives an amazing perspective of the people we're dealing with.

"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

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"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."




"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Waaaaaaaait a second...

Did someone say there were drills taking place on Nov. 22nd that mirrored the events of that day?

"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."

Did you know...

From Wiki...

Three other U.S. government investigations have agreed with the Warren Commission's conclusion that two shots struck JFK from the rear: the 1968 panel set by Attorney General Ramsey Clark, the 1975 Rockefeller Commission, and the 1978-79 House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA), which reexamined the evidence with the help of the largest forensics panel. The HSCA involved Congressional hearings and ultimately concluded there Oswald assassinated Kennedy probably as the result of a conspiracy based on acoustic evidence which was later found to be unreliable. [8] The HSCA concluded that Oswald fired shots number one, two, and four, and that an unknown assassin fired shot number three (but missed) from near the corner of a picket fence that was above and to President Kennedy's right front on the Dealey Plaza grassy knoll. However, this conclusion has also been criticized, especially for its reliance upon questionable acoustic evidence.

"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this."