If Matt Taibbi had even one percent of Gore Vidal's intellectual grasp of American history, perhaps then it would make reading his presumed 'leftist' opinion about 9/11 a little easier to stomach. (I presume that Taibbi pitches from the left, because his screed is published at Alternet.org and AfterDowningStreet.org.) Fortunately, we don't need him. Gore Vidal is still among us, and it is his image and voice in the new Italian documentary 'Zero: an investigation into 9/11', that expresses a critical perspective of 9/11 that will ring true to the ears of those who will hear, and will help to free the prisoners currently living out the Allegory of the Cave, mesmerized by shadows of terror, cast upon the wall by the likes of yellow journalists like Taibbi.

Source: http://911research.wtc7.net/debates/ryan_v_shermer/index.html

Related Blog: http://www.911blogger.com/node/12441

Thom Hartmann Show, November 8, 2007
Kevin Ryan and Michael Shermer Debate
What Really Happened on 9/11

[The transcript below begins as Host Thom Hartmann is explaining some background relating to his research into the JFK assassination, about an hour an eight minutes into the unedited recording of the show at http://www.whiterosesociety.org/content/hartmann/HartmannShow-(8-11-2007).mp3 .]

TH: I’m very skeptical of anybody who says I know exactly what went on, or I know exactly what didn’t go on. So my position is very agnostic on this. I think it's going to take – I mean, here we are, with the JFK assassination, 40 years later, 44 years later – I think it's gonna take a long time to figure out. That said, a good healthy discussion, a good healthy debate and raising the questions and for that matter raising the answers to the questions, is a reasonable and healthy thing.

...

This day-long conference on Saturday December 15 at Boston’s historic Faneuil Hall is entitled, “The Destruction of World Trade Center Towers 1, 2 and 7: A Case for Controlled Demolition.” In this scientific look at the collapses, a panel of four well-known and credentialed science and engineering professionals will present the case that the government’s theories could not possibly be true and that most of the evidence points to the one theory that’s been completely avoided by the government and the media – controlled demolition.

Continued...

Kevin Ryan and Michael Fury have added very informative Letters to the Journal of 9/11 Studies.

Kevin's letter begins: "Just before the sixth anniversary of 9/11, Ryan Mackey, a new defender of the Bush Administration’s conspiracy theory, posted a 200-page paper that attempts to critique the NIST chapter of David Ray Griffin’s book, Debunking 9/11 Debunking.... Mr. Mackey refers to himself as a US government scientist, whose work includes the production of “strike aircraft weapon systems.” This means that his involvement in the discussion of the truth about 9/11 should be taken with the understanding that the official story of 9/11 supports an historic increase in military spending, and therefore benefits people who work for the military-industrial complex. Introducing himself, Mackey declares his allegiance to the James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF)..."
Read the rest of Kevin Ryan's Letter here: http://journalof911studies.com/letters/b/MackeyLetter.pdf

Michael Fury (pen name) writes an open letter to John Conyers, Chair of the House Judiciary Committee. He begins,

Getting ready for the Boston Tea Party for 9/11 Truth! http: http://www.boston911truth.org/

Kevin Ryan, the Underwriters Labs whistleblower and NIST report demolisher, will be my first hour guest on 9/11 and Empire Radio tonight, Tuesday 12/4/07, 9-10 pm CT. Kevin is not just a lucid scientific critic of the official story, he's also a voice of uncommon common sense in the 9/11 truth movement--a spiritually-grounded guy whose opinions I always respect and usually agree with. For example, he just convinced me to drop an uncomplimentary reference to Cindy Sheehan from a piece I had written. I had not meant it to be uncomplimentary to her, but to some of those surrounding her, yet when I re-read it I saw that Kevin was absolutely right that it never should have been posted and needed to come down. I invite those who have a beef with anything I've written to follow Kevin's example--email me with a specific reference to the questionable passage and I'll try to give your critique fair-minded consideration. Writers need good editors--but in the internet age we rarely have any. My email address is kevin@mujca.com

After working with my freeware Audacity wave editor (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/windows) all afternoon, I've managed to compile a relatively complete audio version of the debate (from hours 1 & 2) that is generally commercial-free.

Here is the Putfile link:

http://media.putfile.com/Commercial-Free-Thom-Hartman-911-Debate-Ryan-vs...

In case you have trouble downloading it from there (as opposed to just listening to it) you can get the full 41.38 MB MP3 file at the following (somewhat slow) link:

http://www.freefilehosting.ws/file/744/Commercial-Free-Thom-Hartman-911-...

Also, mirrored for QUICK download here.

Thank you, Kevin! It was a good debate!

From 911truth.org;

Thom Hartmann to Host 9/11 Truth Debate on Air America

On Thursday, November 8th, from 1 to 2 PM Eastern, popular progressive Air America host and author, Thom Hartmann, will host a debate between Kevin Ryan, 9/11 UL whistleblower and co-editor of the online "Journal of 911 Studies," and Michael Shermer, publisher of "Skeptic Magazine" and Executive Director of the Skeptics Society.

Click here to Listen Live at the time of the show;
http://www.airamerica.com/aarplayer/gateway

Another option here;
http://www.airamerica.com/thomhartmannpage/

Live links at:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20071102154606957

On Thursday, November 8th, from 1 to 2 PM Eastern, popular progressive Air America host and author, Thom Hartmann, will host a debate between Kevin Ryan, 9/11 UL whistleblower and co-editor of the online Journal of 911 Studies, and Michael Shermer, publisher of "Skeptic Magazine" and Executive Director of the Skeptics Society. Click here to Listen Live at the time of the show.

For some background on these participants, see:

Kevin Ryan:
Kevin Ryan is former Site Manager for Environomental Health Laboratories, a division of Underwriters Laboratories (UL). Mr. Ryan, a Chemist and laboratory manager, was fired by UL in 2004 for publicly questioning the report being drafted by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) on their World Trade Center investigation. In the intervening period, Ryan has completed additional research while his original questions, which have become increasingly important over time, remain unanswered by UL or NIST.

Re: http://www.911blogger.com/node/12002

[Note: I will be speaking with Kevin Ryan, a leading expert on the NIST cover-up, at the Peoria Public Library at 2 pm this Saturday, 10/20/07, 107 N.E. Monroe St., Peoria, IL 61602]

In an amazing about-face, the National Institute for Standards and Technology (NIST) has implicitly admitted that its 10,000-page report on the destruction of the Twin Towers is a fraud, and that the buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition.

In its recent reply to family members Bill Doyle and Bob McIlvaine, scientists Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan, architect Richard Gage and the group Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice, NIST states: "We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse."

Thus NIST euphemistically admits that its 10,000-page report on the Towers does not even pretend to provide any explanation whatsoever for the Towers' total collapse--and that indeed no such explanation is possible without invoking the politically-incorrect idea of controlled demolition.

Quick overview:

I think there are hints for growing suspicion that a new explanation for the WTC collapse is in the making, missing fire protection.

Please read the whole post to make your own opinion about that:

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The german channel ZDF (Second German Television, a state backed media) will send a documentary that journalists Michael Renz made together with that BBC hitpiece producer Guy Smith back in february on the sixth anniversary next tuesday, 9/11, 20:15-21:00 Central European Time.

Here's a translation of the announcement, translated by loosechange forum member Front242:

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Visibility911.com Launches Debut of the Visibility 9-11 Newsletter
Featuring a New Article by Kevin Ryan

Dear Friends,
I want to take this opportunity to thank all of my listeners for the support and words of encouragement I have received. Generous support from listeners makes this broadcast possible and we will continue to work on ways to make the program and the website better in our mission of spreading the truth. My heartfelt gratitude goes out to those who have helped me along the way.

Good News! Dr. Steven Jones & Kevin Ryan not only support TruthBurn, they are giving technical advice as well. Architects Richard Gage, Scott Page and engineer Charles Pegelow are also consulting.

WE STILL NEED FUNDS! This is vital to the success of this project. The project will garner significant attention to the valid claims of the 911 Truth Movement. If any of you have emails or addresses of important donors, stars, celebrities, please consider sharing that with us or alerting them to this worthy project. Any donations are greatly appreciated and they are tax deductible.

Donations: Mail check to Northern California 9-11 Truth Alliance/ Care of TRUTHBURN, PO Box 60511, Palo Alto, CA 94306

http://911truthburn.blogspot.com

Putfile stream:
http://media.putfile.com/Kevin-Ryan-on-KPFK

Audio Download:
http://64.27.15.184/parchive/mp3/kpfk_070604_150323indymed.mp3

Kevin Ryan was interviewed on Santa Barbara's KPFK, on a program by Chris Burnett. Chris made opening remarks about 9/11 and then invited Kevin to speak via phone. Web site www.journalof911studies.com was given out. Kevin then took caller questions during the last quarter hour.

A wide-ranging, informed discussion about the way data was ignored and altered to reach certain conclusions about the "official" collapse theories.

This program was broadcast from 3PM to 4PM on Monday June 4, 2007 but can be found online at link above. You might want to archive this program since program is only available online for 90 days.

Thanks, nuggets.

TRANSCRIPT

On the Manipulation of the 9/11 Research Community

Jim Fetzer

“The Dynamic Duo” radio show of 17 May 2007, Genesis Communications Network, www.gcnlive.com, Channel 2. A few bracketed phrases have been added here for clarity.

http://67.15.255.19/~c911sch1/media/0517071.mp3
http://67.15.255.19/~c911sch1/media/0517072.mp3

Transcribed by Jeannon Kralj

START

PART 1 of 8:

This is Jim Fetzer, your host with Kevin Barrett, where you can catch The Boy Wonder here on Mondays and Fridays, and I’m here Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays. You can, that is, unless he’s off in Morocco trying to track down one of those alleged suicide hijackers. He speaks fluent French and Arabic and, of course, he is a convert to Islam, and I think if anyone can pull of this stunt, it’s going to be Kevin. So I look forward to hopefully even having him on the show so he can talk about what he’s discovered while he’s over there.

In this special broadcast of Visibility 9-11, Michael guest hosts the first of a series of interviews for the radio program Words of Freedom with George Flynn. Words of Freedom is aired on KRFC, 88.9 FM in Fort Collins, Colorado on Monday nights at 5:30 - 6:00 pm mountain time (no commercials).  This opportunity provides a valuable window to introduce 9-11 truth to an audience who rarely hear our message.  Many thanks to George for the honor of sitting in for him while he is away on business.

This episode introduces to the listeners of KRFC, Kevin Ryan, formerly of Underwriters Laboratories for a discussion on his termination from UL, the NIST Report, and his ongoing lawsuit against UL.

Kevin presently serves as Co-Editor at the Journal of 9-11 Studies and is a member of Scholars for 9-11 Truth and Justice.

Listen here.

“In fact, Underwriter Laboratories does not certify structural steel.”
David Dunbar, executive editor of Popular Mechanics [1]

We now know that US Government scientists were not able to produce evidence for "widely dislodged" fireproofing within the World Trade Center towers on 9/11. Because of this, the distinction between the fire-based hypothesis of collapse and the demolition hypothesis depends on, among other things, the answer to one important question. Were the steel assemblies used to construct those buildings tested for fire resistance as required by the New York City code?.

As I have stated many times in public, UL made it clear to me and others that they performed this testing. Of course I have their statements on the subject in writing, and I would have been a fool to have made such claims publicly without possessing such documentation. In contrast, Mr. Dunbar of Popular Mechanics does not seem to mind acting like an irresponsible fool in public, as his statement above indicates. His statement is foolish because it is widely known that UL does test and certify structural components for buildings such as the World Trade Center towers.

Even beginning students know that UL is one of the few important organizations supporting codes and specifications because they "produce a Fire Resistance Index with hourly ratings for beams, columns, floors, roofs, walls and partitions tested in accordance with ASTM Standard E119." [2] The Federal Emergency Management Administration (FEMA) itself made this point clear in their WTC report by saying "the UL Fire Resistance Directory ...is the major reference used by architects and engineers to select designs that meet the building code requirements for fire resistance ratings." [3]

Additionally UL's own Tom Chapin, the Chemist and manager of their Fire Protection division, with whom I was in contact, admitted to UL's involvment in testing steel for the WTC in a letter to the New York Times editor published April 15, 2002. In this letter, Chapin said "The World Trade Center stood for almost an hour after withstanding conditions well beyond those experienced in any typical fire. In that time, thousands of people escaped with their lives. ASTM E-119 and UL's testing procedures helped make that possible." [4]

Its FREE for EVERYONE of all walks of life! Come Join! At the University of Michigan campus on Saturday, April 7, Ann Arbor 911 Truth presents an extravaganza:

-A debate against faculty and political rivals on the veracity of the official story, with Kevin Barrett and Kevin Ryan (one of the 9/11 whistleblowers)
-A presentation by 9/11 hero William Rodriguez
-The world premiere of the new 9/11 documentary, "Open Complicity: Anatomy of the 9/11 Cover-Up"
-Other 9/11 documentaries will also be screened

RUNDOWN OF EVENT:
10am-2pm: Film Screenings for those who can't make the later time
2pm-5pm: Debate, and Rodriguez Presentation
5pm-10pm: Film Screenings

The films will be run in the Vandenberg Room of the Michigan League.

Bring family, friends, and everyone. Hope to see you there.

More information:
http://www.a2planet.com/aa911truth/

9/11: Looking for Truth in Credentials: The Peculiar WTC “Experts”
Contributed by: Milton

by Kevin Ryan

Global Research, March 13, 2007
9/11 blogspot

When Matthew Rothschild, editor of the online magazine The Progressive, wrote an article called “Enough of the 9/11 Conspiracies, Already”, we all knew he was not talking about the conspiracy theory that the US government sells us to justify the expanding 9/11 Wars.[1] To the contrary, in writing that article Mr. Rothschild was selling that same theory himself. What he actually meant was that people should not question the US government’s story of terror because credentialed experts have been found to support it. But the fact is that the experts found to support the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 are predominantly those who profit from doing so. That’s not to say that all of these people were “part of the conspiracy”. But they are, whether consciously or not, a part of the cover-up. And that, of course, is the greater crime.

Kevin Ryan's legal battle with UL is still in the early stages, with UL's team of lawyers filing motions to dismiss the suit. If UL can be made to reveal information in the next stage of the legal battle, "disclosure", then Ryan can clear the record, and the truth can be revealed to a hungry pack of 9/11 skeptics across the nation and increasingly, the globe.

Please contribute to Ryan's Legal Defense Fund if you can:
http://www.ultruth.com/

If you are new to Kevin Ryan's story and work, go here:
http://www.ultruth.com/Kevin_Ryan.htm

Details on the case:

United States District Court, Southern District of Indiana
Cause No. 1:06-cv-1770-JDT-TAB
Judge John D. Tinder
Magistrate Judge Tim A. Baker

Be sure to check out Ryan's new piece:
Looking for Truth in Credentials: The WTC “Experts”

http://www.ultruth.com/

Message from Kevin

By all accounts, the unprecedented events of September 11th, 2001 “changed everything”. It is therefore critical that conscientious Americans, as well as all good people around the world, understand these events in detail. Unfortunately the official reports, including The 9/11 Commission Report and the NIST WTC Report, written by those working under the direction of the Bush Administration, fall far short of providing the explanations needed.

Both the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and my former employer, Underwriters Laboratories (UL), seem to have taken the stance that the public does not have a right to know what fire resistance tests were performed on the steel component assemblies used to build the World Trade Center (WTC) towers. But since NIST’s latest story for collapse of the WTC towers depends on the fire-induced failure of these steel components, there is little information that could be more important at this time.

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.
Martin Luther King Jr.

http://www.ultruth.com/

This article* offers the US government another opportunity to answer serious questions about 9/11 without anyone actually having to take responsibility for those answers. Like Shyam Sunder of NIST, promoting the Pancake Theory in a Popular Mechanics interview even after that theory was proven to be incorrect, a US government scientist (Garcia) can say whatever he wants in an informal media presentation. And in this case, Garcia does just that, repeating many unsubstantiated claims, and even adding some new ones.

Garcia begins by suggesting that those who question the Bush Administration’s story are psychologically disturbed in some way. Of course, the absurdity of this implication is obvious. The official theory is not only a conspiracy theory, but is one that appeals to our most contemptible instincts. And after what we’ve been through in the last five years, questioning the Bush Administration’s ever-changing explanations for those important events would seem, for most of us, a pretty good idea.

As an introduction, readers get only a brief, dismissive hint that there is an alternative hypothesis for “collapse” of the WTC buildings. A link to a Wikipedia article on the subject is provided, but a more direct, and more fair, approach would have been to provide links to sources like Steven Jones’ paper at the Journal of 911 Studies (www.journalof911studies.com), or Jim Hoffman’s site (http://911research.wtc7.net). And a much more interesting article would have included some explanation from Garcia about his own employer’s growing dominance in research on the use of Aluminothermics (http://www.llnl.gov/str/RSimpson.html).

(This isn’t the C-Span version)

September 24, 2006 marked the first public event sponsored by Berkeley radio station KPFA regarding the alternative vision of the events of 9/11. The panel discussion celebrated the publication of the book edited by David Ray Griffin and Peter Dale Scott titled “9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out.”

The book, published by Olive Branch Press (Interlink), contains eleven essays by American and international intellectuals. Ray McGovern, the host of the event commented that these writings “in no way can be dismissed as the ravings of ‘paranoid conspiracy theorists.’”

The video of this landmark event publicizing 9/11Truth, includes the complete presentations of each of four major contributors to the book: David Ray Griffin, Peter Dale Scott, Peter Phillips and Kevin Ryan plus question and answer moderated by host Ray McGovern. The audience’s standing ovation response to this standing-room-only event was tremendous.

The September 24 KPFA event from Berkeley, CA, will air on C-Span's Book TV this weekend.

Featured speakers:

David Ray Griffin
Kevin Ryan
Peter Dale Scott
Peter Phillips
Ray McGovern

EST PST
Friday Nov 24th: 4:00pm 1:00pm
Saturday Nov 25th: 3:30am 12:30am
10:00pm 7:00pm

http://www.booktv.org/schedule/

Spread the word!

9/11, NIST, and “Bush Science”: A New Standard for Absurdity

By Arabesque

Revision: July 6, 2007.

Scientific Method versus Political Method: The US administration and its interpretation of the events of 9/11.

By Arabesque

Updated: 05/02/07 Minor revisions and "Scholars for 9/11 Truth" replaced with "Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice"

9/11 was a terrorist attack—or was it?

The US administration released several documents that claim that 9/11 was a terrorist attack. The NIST report,[1] 9/11 commission report,[2] FEMA report and the EPA report on air quality[3] were made by government scientists and high ranking government officials. Excluding the EPA report, all of these reports are used to claim that the official story about 9/11 is true.

Many assume that the reports are accurate and tell the full story of the events of 9/11. Unfortunately, an examination of the track record of the government in relation to science raises serious questions about their credibility.

+A+New+Standard+for+Deception+by+Kevin+Ryan

If you are unfamiliar with Kevin Ryan or if you have never seen his PowerPoint presentation and lecture, it's time well spent.

This is from the Chicago conference of this past June, recently uploaded by TruthRing.org, produced by Alex Jones.

More recently, Ryan spoke in California for the launch of "9/11 and American Empire Vol. I: Intellectuals Speak Out", and that is currently streaming at Bonnie Faulkner's Guns and Butter archive: http://kpfa.org/archives/index.php?arch=16697

Also, his article, What is 9/11 Truth? - The First Steps - pdf - 42kb is good stuff. (Online at ST911.org.)

The Visionary Activist Show
Thursday, October 12th, 2006

http://www.kpfa.org/archives/index.php?arch=16603

Thanks, Hans.

Guns & Butter

Wednesday, October 4th, 1:00pm

Five years on the air and still going strong, Guns and Butter is the only show on KPFA that has consistently provided in-depth coverage of alternative 9/11 analysis.

Please show your support by calling in a pledge at 800-439-5732 during air-time today, from 1-2pm (or any time, but reference Guns and Butter!). If you don't want to or can't afford to pledge, you can still support us by calling the listener comments line at 510-848-6767 x 622 and saying something nice about the show.

Today's show will be highlight's from the recent event held in Berkeley: 9/11 and American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out (event info below). This was a riveting and informative event, so don't miss the show!

Airing live at 1pm on KPFA 94.1FM Berkeley, and streaming and archived at www.kpfa.org

www.gunsandbutter.net

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9/11 & American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out

A KPFA original event gathering scholars who confront the unspeakable:

DAVID RAY GRIFFIN - Professor Of Philosophy and Theology, Emeritus, Claremont Graduate University. He is the author or editor of some 30 books, including The New Pearl Harbor, Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11 (2004), The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions (2005) and Christian Faith and the Truth Behind 9/11: A Call to Reflection and Action (2006)

A mass of conrete, iron, and more found fused together below Ground Zero

9/11 - Can you keep a secret? I hope not - The Truth Will Set You Free

"The NIST report represents what can really only be called anti-science. They started with their conclusion and worked their way back to some leading hypothesis."

"Here is the meteorite - molten iron fused with concrete."

"Architects, engineers, people who work with steel - welders - have just never seen the level of destruction and the level of deformation of this material in their lives."

"As I stood there on the 33rd floor, I heard very strange noises on the 34th floor. now, the 34th floor was an empty floor - a floor that did not have any kind of walls, it was a construction floor. It was totally hollowed out there was nothing there . . . not even the elevators stopped there. You had to have a special access key to open the door on the 34th floor"

There are some very interesting clips in this short film, be sure to check it out for some things you might not have seen before.

Update:
This is actually part of the recently released 3 part series '9/11 Mysteries'. Sorry for the confusion, here is the link to the full film:
911 Mysteries - Demolitions (Full Length)

Hat tip to whatreallyhappened.com for the link!