AIA Architect Richard Gage : 9/11 Symposium, West Hartford CT, 11/03/07

(This is a 'rough cut'....We are currently working on the post production of the entire event which will be available on DVD in the coming few weeks...Please check for further uddates.)

Richard Gage :AIA Architect and Founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth ( )

"9/11: Re-examining the 3 WTC High-rise "Collapses"

(Part 1)

(Part 2)

Well done, Radical Pragmatist

Your efforts are commendable and highly encouraging.

Keep up the good work.

Victory on the way as we persist.

Cheers & God Bless.

The CONSTITUTION is NOT going to "collapse" into pulverized dust no matter how much thermate/explosives or planes they throw at it

Great job RP! I just want to

Great job RP! I just want to point something out though for Richard Gage if he’s reading this, and Dr Jones for that matter. The video with the “flashes” Mr Gage cites (with about 4mins 25secs left to run on part 1) is not proof of flashes at all. Those white dots are static on the video, because the first couple look like they’re on the building – that’s where Mr Gage is getting the idea from – but if you watch it once the building goes down there’s another “white dot” in the middle of the footage. It’s static.

I have seen footage of what really did seem to look like flashes coming out of the buildings though, although I think it was in a clip from one of Rick Siegel’s videos. I can’t stand Siegel for one second and have never appreciated his work other than some of the footage in his films, which might be semi-useful.

Regarding "9/11 Eyewitness" Footage...

Hey DBLS, I share your sentiment on what Rick has become, I also agree that his footage contains some very interesting and valuable bits too (baby with the bath water and all that) !!!

I spent many hours going through his original footage almost two years ago (don't time fly when you're having fun). Checking Rick's footage (frame by frame), I believe I only found ONE genuine flash / squib during WTC1's "collapse" mixed in with the "tickertape" deluge of flying glass and cladding which added a lot of "noise" to the footage.

The following images were from the original version of 9/11 eyewitness (pre mini-nuke BS etc - starting approx 38mins in).


Image One, this gives you an idea of the scale and positioning of the north tower (approx 38:05 mins).

Image Two, shows a bright flash almost directly above the sky lobby. Based on the lack of sunlight around the flash and the fact that the previous frame has the same flash only much less prominent and the fact it immediately disappears looks very suspicious to me. (approx 38:13 mins).

Image Three, shows a squib ejecting from around the same position as the bright flash. What I found interesting about this squib, is that it maintained it's horizontal eject position, whilst the rubble fell through it (approx 38:14).


There may be more in the mix, but the above is the only one that I'm sure of !!!

Best wishes to ya dude !!!

Format gone wild, dummy post to fix...


Thanks man, the one I'm

Thanks man, the one I'm thinking of is a shaky cam shot, but you can clearly see what does appear to be flashes zipping through the building as it collapses. Could be BS though or some kind of “fakery” now that we all know Siegel's true colours.

Do you have a link to the "Shaky cam"...


It was ages ago but I will

It was ages ago but I will try to find it sometime, it has something to do with Siegel I think but I'm not sure.

Also on second inspection I could be wrong about those “white dots”, they could be flashes;

Those WTC2 flashes are very real...

I know there's some clips / claims when you see the dust cloud sparkling, which I believe are NOT CD related flashes, more like reflections off glass etc...


You can get those clips you linked to in high res too (thanks to Xenomorph911), i.e

WTC2 from North

YT :

HQ Download :


WTC2 from South (flash at VERY beginning, 0 secs - corresponds with same mirrored position as flash on north face)

YT :

HQ Download :


You can find more on playlists at : (HQ download info in "About this video" [more] - when viewing video)

In "playlists" WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7... Gotta say most credit should go to Xenomorph911 who's done a brilliant job putting these together...

Link :


Best wishes dude and I hope the vids are of some help to everyone !!!

They could also be static discharges

And/or they could be explosive flashes.

Senior 9/11 Bureau Chief, Analyst, Correspondent, Principle Investigator, Forensic 9/11ologist

It doesn't matter what people are saying, as long as they are talking about you. — Denny Crane

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Have you actually watched the videos...

sheesh, "static" with flames ejecting many yards horizontally, sure

Please at least take the time to watch the videos before commenting

Many thanks

I have and they COULD be static discharges

Perhaps you should think before you write. Try it, you'll like it.

Senior 9/11 Bureau Chief, Analyst, Correspondent, Principle Investigator, Forensic 9/11ologist

It doesn't matter what people are saying, as long as they are talking about you. — Denny Crane

Bring back the 80's! — Nuke the Gay Iranian Whales!

I do think before I write, thanks for the concern...

Now please show me some examples of static that looks like what is observed in the above videos and what do you think could have caused this static....


WTC2 north face

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WTC2 south face

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Two complete opposite sides of the tower and apparently the same floor.

Best wishes



You can see the flash / white flame a little better on the below video (sorry no HQ versions of these)...

Original Video (with sound) :

Also, another north face close-up version :