A Tribute to Harry John Roland
WeAreChange.org
Part 1
Part 2
Luke Rudkowski & Brian Kenny / WeAreChangeNews / Jan 30, 2008
Every since coming out to Ground Zero for the very 1st time 4 and ½ years ago to stand behind a new investigation, I saw an African American man running around ground zero screaming "history don't let it be a mystery."
He was a very open and public person talking to any individual who even would look at him especially any curious young kids. I never knew what to think of this gentlemen but finally talking to him recently I knew his story had to be told.
His name is Harry John Roland and he has been coming out to Ground Zero for nearly everyday since the attacks of 9/11. Harry on 911 not only lost his job inside the South World Trade Center Tower but also his nephew who's body was not found until 2004.
Being tragically affected by 9/11, Harry has been coming out to Ground Zero nearly everyday since the attacks to educate the people about the truth behind that day.
We Are CHANGE pays tribute to the 1st person ever to make a stand for truth and who has been doing it everyday since the day of the tragic events of 911. We pay our respects and we hope you do too.
Harry is well known for his catch phrases which can be heard echoing throughout the WTC complex, especially "History - don't let it be a mystery", and "don't say two - 'cause that's not true!"
So if you visit Ground Zero to pay respect to the fallen or to join other patriotic Americans who stand for truth, remember to keep an eye and an ear out for Harry John Roland.
- Brian WeAreChange's blog
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Wow, that Mr. Roland has plenty of positive energy! His nephew
would be proud.
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Beautiful Story. And Inspiring.
I appreciate knowing about this. Hopefully Harry will be seeing a lot more friendly faces outside the World Trade Center as the days go on...
Thank you Harry !
You do your country , and your nephew very proud !
HISTORY DON'T LET IT BE A MYSTERY!
I'm very impressed with Harry John Roland! Does he sell pictures at the site? How has he been making a living since the tragedy? I'd like to definitely hear more about him and how to correspond--if possible?
Also, you sold me. I'm gong to 1stresponders1st.com to donate some rapidly depreciating dollars to the cause!
Thanks for the video!
...don't believe them!
What an awesome guy. thank
What an awesome guy. thank you Harry
Harry Roland And Brian Haw
Two great street activists.
Maybe someday they will get to meet.
Thank you...
Thank you Mr. Harry John Roland. We appreciate your courage and conviction.
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"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" – Edward R. Murrow
Verifying Harry Rolands story
Just out of curiosity, has anyone here ever checked or verified Harry Rolands claims? He claims that he worked at the WTC and that his nephew also worked there. There is just something about his testimony in that video that gives me the idea that Harry Roland is telling some tall tales and might not be telling the whole truth.
Has anyone here ever looked into Mr. Rolands claims with any scrutiny?
Harry Roland lies in Video
I was kind of expecting some sort of response here by now. Let me go one step further and declare that Harry Roland tells outright lies in his video taken by WeAreChange. And he repeatedly lies. Did anyone else here see Harry Rolands lies in his video? Because his lies tell us his entire story is fraudulent and not true.
Does everyone here accept every story that comes their way in 911 without any research or verification? Any sharp researchers here that can find Harry Rolands lies in this video and see them on their own? Anyone?
I could just point them out. But that wouldn't teach anyone here how to use critical thought processes.
Who here can spot all of Harry Rolands lies in this wearechange video?
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and that's about all i know about joshua, plus joshua is rude - roooo- ooooood! and joshua lies
has anyone noticed joshua lies
there's something about what he says i think he lies
yadda yadda yadda yadda
joshua wouldn't sit right in a conspiracy-
that's coz he's a lone nut !
Any intelligent replies from 911 Blogger people?
Ya, I was actually looking for a mature, unchildish response which showed maturity. Apparently you aren't worth the time wasted on writing a reply. I would also think that this type of behavior wouldn't be allowed by the moderators.
Will this be tolerated from me in other posts? If not, someone should show Doug the rules and remove his spam droppings.
Is there anyone more intelligent then Doug who is interested in learning about Harry Rolands tall tales and lies? It is all there in his video. This website is full of top notch researchers and truth seekers, surely someone among you can spot Harry's tall tale.
please show evidence re HJ Roland
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Why does WeAreChange promote Fakes and Frauds?
It is ironic how indignant Jon Gold was before he saw the proofs showing Harry Roland a fraud. And after you all found out Harry Roland is a fraud, what did you all do? Did Luke and Brian from WeAreChange.org distance themselves from Harry and proclaim that he is a fraud?
This is extremely damaging to WeAreChange.org. They are supporting and promoting FAKE VICTIM FAMILY MEMBERS!
Will they acknowledge this or cover it up? And how many other fake family members does WeAreChange promote and support? I took the liberty of snipping a few of Jon Golds "key lines" in his diatribe of 25 rules;
Conversely, we seek to counteract and minimize:
1. Promotion of speculative and unsubstantiated claims.
2. Disruptive, divisive, diversionary, and aggressive behavior.
3. Damaging and marginalizing associations.
Promoting FAKE VICTIM FAMILY MEMBERS is promoting speculative and unsubstantiated claims, is it not? And promoting FAKE VICTIM FAMILY MEMBERS is a good example of damaging and marginalizing associations, is it not?
Harry Roland is a FRAUD. He has been proven a fraud. There is no doubt that he is a fraud. So I need to know why Luke and Brian from WeAreChange.org are promoting fake victim family members?
How many other FAKE FAMILY VICTIMS do they support? Are all of them fakes and frauds like Harry Roland? Is Luke and Brian from WeAreChange fakes and frauds like Harry Roland? You got caught RED HANDED promoting FAKES and FRAUDS and you did nothing. You acted as though you didn't even care.
I think this tells us everything about WeAreChange.org that we need to know. They are ruining the truth movement by promoting frauds! Why does 911blogger support wearechange when they promote fakes and frauds and phonies?
These are all questions that need to be asked, whether you like the questions or not.
--Joshua
time to ignore joshuas anti HJR slander
Such groups and individuals should not be engaged in unproductive ways, such as aggression, name-calling, personal attacks, etc. Instead, the substance of their destructive behavior should be detailed, after which they should be ignored as much as possible.
Evidence demands Objective Analysis, not Emotional Responses
See the first video below, 2:25- 2:47
A tribute to Harry John Roland (part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAITPUn7gD0&feature=player_embedded
Notice his nephews name is Tim Ward, victim at the world trade center. Tim Ward was sadly told to go back to his desk in the South Tower. He even points to this nephew, Tim Ward. Who he said went back to his desk.
http://img6.imageshack.us/i/harryroland911fraud.jpg
Tim Ward, Harry John Rolands Nephew - Allegedly killed at the South Tower on 9/11
I checked the CNN Memorial and two (2) Wards are listed:
Timothy Ray Ward who's picture is curiously absent. And also claimed to be Harry Rolands nephew by Harry Roland.
And Stephen Gordon Wards CNN memorial, who doesn't have a picture and obviously isn't the guy Harry is pointing at because it is the wrong name.
In the 911 Victims Compensation Fund, there are 5 Wards listed on lines 4259-4263:
Ward, Cecil
Ward, Joseph
Ward, Stephen
Ward, Stephen
Ward, Timothy
There is only one Tim Ward. Let me introduce you to Tim Ward now. Meet Tim Ward, already determined to be a fake victim through the digital data on his picture;
http://img830.imageshack.us/i/timwardwhiteguy911.jpg
Tim Ward - Alleged passenger on Flight 175
Harry's nephew was black. Tim Ward, the only Tim Ward allegedly killed on 911, was white. And to make things worse, Tim Ward was an alleged passenger on Flight 175, not a worker in the Towers as Harry Roland claims. There are no other Tim Ward 911 victims.
Tim Wards picture, from the Web Archive of the CNN Memorial shows that the pictures Exif/IPTC data as 1/11/2000 as thepicture being taken day, or the date of the last edit. A year and 9 months before 9/11. The official story and fairy tale fell long ago. But with the release of this research, the fairy tale of the passengers and mock victims of 9/11 is also laid to rest. Perhaps the planners prepared this victim ahead of time and forgot he was supposed to be black, or forgot that someone else already was assigned this victim. Talk about economy of actors! This takes the cake!
It is doubtful that Harry's nephew was somehow left off of every single 911 list available. Including the victims compensation fund, and the CNN memorial. If this was the story, Harry Roland would no doubt have incorporated this into his story. Yet he hasn't. He would show people pay-stubs, proof his nephew worked there, etc. and cry cover-up. He would have pictures of the CNN memorial and say look, my nephews not there. And here's his last pay stub. Then Harry would have a rhyme about this. "This Tim Ward is white, and it ain't right." "Why not two and where's my Nephew?"
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Statements like this show only your total ignorance, nothing more then that really Douglas! I agree with those things, and hope people will indeed ignore you and look only at the evidence.
Deal with the evidence and stop with the antics. If you have intelligent replies or offer some sort of explanation, I am all ears. Show me how I am wrong with evidence, not blanket condemnation. Who cares what the truth is? I just want to know what that truth is. Regardless of what it might be. This is the definition of being open minded.
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Edit: Can someone please tell me how to make pictures and video work inside posts?
ok so
i'll see what the others have to say
to post video you copy and paste the embed code from youtube into the standard (not rich text) blog entry
to post images you select an image, click copy (as opposed to copy image - i find, but i have a macbook) then in your blog entry you switch to rich text editor , paste
then it tells you to do control v
Thanks for your help Doug! I
Thanks for your help Doug! I finally figured out part of it, everything but the youtube. I appreciate the help!
That is pretty damned
That is pretty damned interesting. This guy was making up the story of his nephew dying on 9/11? Strange that the only Tim Ward listed as dying at the WTC is a white guy who was supposedly a passenger on flight 175.
Not to change the subject, but I was just reminded of another anomaly with regards to the doomed passenger jets on 9/11: Who heard the famous "Let's Roll" command spoken just before that group of flight 93 passengers broke down the cockpit door and wrested control of the plane from the alleged hijackers? How could their voices be recorded on the other side of the cockpit door? Did one of them have their cell phone on right as they were about to break down the door. The whole thing sounds very staged and scripted to me. Then the plane nosedives and entirely disappears into the gash it leaves in the ground? Lots of Hollywood things going on here with regards to the UA Flight 93 story in my opinion.
WeAreChange promotes fakes and frauds
It is ironic how indignant Jon Gold was before he saw the proofs showing Harry Roland a fraud. And after finding out Harry Roland is a fraud, what was done? Did Luke and Brian from WeAreChange.org distance themselves from Harry and proclaim that he is a fraud?
This is extremely damaging to WeAreChange.org. They are supporting and promoting FAKE VICTIM FAMILY MEMBERS!
Will they acknowledge this or cover it up? And how many other fake family members does WeAreChange promote and support? I took the liberty of snipping a few of Jon Golds "key lines" in his diatribe of 25 rules;
Conversely, we seek to counteract and minimize:
1. Promotion of speculative and unsubstantiated claims.
2. Disruptive, divisive, diversionary, and aggressive behavior.
3. Damaging and marginalizing associations.
Promoting FAKE VICTIM FAMILY MEMBERS is promoting speculative and unsubstantiated claims, is it not? And promoting FAKE VICTIM FAMILY MEMBERS is a good example of damaging and marginalizing associations, is it not?
Harry Roland is a FRAUD. He has been proven a fraud. There is no doubt that he is a fraud. WeAreChange.org PROMOTES & SUPPORTS a total fraud! So I need to know why Luke and Brian from WeAreChange.org are promoting fake victim family members?
How many other FAKE FAMILY VICTIMS do they support? Are all of them fakes and frauds like Harry Roland? Is Luke and Brian from WeAreChange fakes and frauds like Harry Roland? They got caught RED HANDED promoting FAKES and FRAUDS and did nothing. They acted as though they didn't even care.
I think this tells us everything about WeAreChange.org that we need to know. They are ruining the truth movement by promoting frauds! Why does 911blogger support wearechange when they promote fakes and frauds and phonies?
These are all questions that need to be asked, whether you like the questions or not.
--Joshua
I don't like the wearechange
I don't like the wearechange approach. They alienate people and make the general message harder to promote. This doesn't surprise me at all, they seem interested in fact free promotion of anti-government propaganda, not 911 truth per se.
I've never talked to you before in my life...
Why do you keep calling me indignant? I have no idea who Roland is. Is this Joshua Smith? By the way "Joshua," my "diatribe of 25 rules" is not "mine" at all, but was co-written by Max TruthMove, Jon Gold YBBS, Arabesque, Julian TruthMove, Nicholas Levis, Robert TruthMove, John Albanese, and Donna Marsh O’Connor. Nor are they "rules," but instead, a "guide and resource" to better help people in this movement.
Harry Roland is a Fraud, what will WeareChange do now?
Brian,
Ok, so I have seen now that you can avoid uncomfortable subjects. But what I want to know and see, especially after finding out Luke from WeAreChange allegedly embezzled 85,000 dollars from wearechange, is this, is wearechange distancing themselves from Harry Roland, this now obvious 911 family victim member fraud, OR NOT? YES or NO?
1. WILL WEARECHANGE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HARRY ROLAND IS A FRAUD?
2. WILL WERECHANGE DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM HARRY ROLAND AND ALL HIS FRAUDULENT CLAIMS?
3. WILL WEARECHANGE PUBLICLLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HARRY ROLAND IS A FRAUD AND DISTANCE THEMSELVES ACCORDINGLY? (Everyones watching, so I suggest this as the best possible course of action your organization can take)
You see, unless you do such things, you will become part of the 911 LIE. And become frauds yourselves. This will be the very last time I ask nicely, seeking reconciliation and cooperation. I might write one more post on this and wait for an answer, but if it does not come, wearechange will become labeled as a fraudulent organization that openly embraces and promotes FAKE VICTIM FAMILY MEMBERS as will 911BLOGGER.com. Will your organization bring down 911blogger because of your lies and fraud? Will 911Blogger be responsible enough to distance themselves from Harry Roland all on their own and issue a statement admitting he is a fraud? This is the ONLY credible solution. But will WeAreChange submit to this? Or not?
How about a response Brian? We all know you have read and seen this thread. Will you do what is right? Or not? Or will you forever ignore this post as though it never happened and keep promoting your FRAUDULENT VICTIM FAMILY MEMBERS?
I want an answer Brian. This isn't going away. I will see to that. This is about the last time I am going to ask nicely about this, after that, this will get real fricking ugly. Will wearechange acknowledge they supported and promoted fake victim family members and distance themselves from the fakes, or not? I and everyone else in 911 want a fricking answer. Now
Wearechange is ruining the 911 truth movement by continuing to promote fake victim family members. I want answers to my honest and sincere questions regarding wearechanges support and promotion of this now, obvious fake victim family member, Harry Roland, by WeAreChange.org.
Unless all of these actions are taken and you do not distance yourselves from Harry Roland immediately, I will expose your organization for the fraud that it is. It is that simple. And who do you think they will believe? WeAreChange? Or the guy who can prove WeAreChange promotes fake family victim members? Everything in 911 has changed Brian and they will believe me rather then you, especially when they see the proof on Harry Roland. It is irrefutable. I can sink your whole entire organization with this one single discovery. I would suggest you do the unusual, and do whats right here. You don't really have any choice but to cut Harry Roland loose. He is fraud and will bring down your entire organization single handedly unless you respond positively to my demands. Which are all legitimate and reasonable.
This is a TRUTH movement Brian and your organization has been found aiding and abetting a 911 fraud. We want the truth and we want it now. Will WeAreChange do what is right with regards to Harry Roland or not? Everyone is watching. What will you do?
ASK QUESTIONS, DEMAND ANSWERS. Is this not your logo? Then cough up some answers on this subject. We want them now! Or is WeAreChange.org above the truth? Is that the case? Either divorce yourselves from Harry Roland and his fraudulent claims, or they will become your own, and your organization will share Harry Rolands fraudulence and sink to the bottom with Harry Roland, the fake 911 family guy! !
MAKE THE CHOICE NOW! TIMES UP. WILL YOUR ORGANIZATION CUT LOOSE THE OBVIOUS FRAUD? OR WILL IT IGNORE THESE THINGS LIKE THEY DON'T EXIST, CAUSING WEARECHANGE TO SINK TO THE BOTTOM WITH ALL THE OTHER FAKE 911 WEBSITES AND FAKE ACTIVISTS, AND SINKING EVERYONE ELSE YOUR CONNECTED WITH? THE CHOICE IS YOURS TO MAKE! DOES WEARECHANGE SUPPORT TRUTH IN THE TRUTH MOVEMENT OR LIES AND FRAUDS?
Enquiring minds wanna know.
--Joshua
I think other people on this
I think other people on this website should step up and start supporting you Joshua. We have to make this movement for real, not a cult of personality, or a parlor game where we trade conspiracy theories with each other for fun. Show courage people and demand that the movement representing you lives up to your expectations. Don't be afraid of authority!!
Jon, Your response is truly pathetic
Jon, & ( Vulich, see below at the bottom for my message to you--)
Your response is truly wanting. If you didn't know who Harry Roland is, then why did you step in and throw the 25 rules of disinformation at me? I honestly believe your lying here. Harry Roland is a fraud, I have proven it to every single person here. It is irrefutable! If you were an honest truth seeker, then your response when finding out Harry Roland is a fraud would have been to make wearechange admit to this and distance themselves from a FAKE VICTIM FAMILY MEMBER.
But you didn't do that. You tried to silence me with your stupid 25 rules of disinformation (25 rules meant to keep truth down) And then when you saw Harry was a fraud and a fake, you were silent, just hoping this would go away. Well this is NEVER going to "go way" until Luke and now 911blogger does what is right, and makes a public statement distancing themselves from Harry Roland the fraud.
And whether you know who Harry is or not, it matters not. What matters is seeing you do all of the things which are right when confronted with the truth, which you claim to be seeking. Why will 911blogger not publicly condemn Harry Roland and rebuke WeAreChange for promoting frauds?
Why is this so difficult for WeAreChange to admit to the truth and distance themselves from Harry Roland the fake victim family member?
Let me answer this question with my opinion; The answer is because Luke is a fraud himself, and wearehcange is a fraud like Luke. Why else would they be promoting fake victim family members? And it isn't as though wearechange hasn't had weeks to make a response to this. But the fact they ignored this and didn't even respond tells me about all I need to know. WeAreChange is a fraudulent organization which supports and promotes fakes and frauds.
And it isn't like they didn't have a chance to deal with this openly and honestly. They have had all the time in the world to do what is right here, and refused.
And think everyone else in the world will probably do and think as I have, assuming WeAreChange as just another one of the fraudulent 911 organizations.
And Vulich,
I was hoping people who ran this website would do what is right and side with the truth, but apparently 911blogger has problems with the truth. It is very apparent after this whole Harry Roland thing. 911blogger should have, if a truthful and credible organization, distanced themselves from Harry Roland & Luke and Brian from wearehcnage immediately. But apparently 911blogger supports 911 organizations which spread lies, and promote fake victim family members.
--Joshua
Hi idiot...
That would be Douglas Hilton that "threw" the 2008 Declaration at you. As I said, I've never talked to you in my lifetime. You didn't answer my question. Is this Joshua Smith?
Jon Gold is an idiot too
Jon,
I think your an idiot as well and so does everyone in 911 that doesn't hang out here. And the answer to who I am is none of your business. It doesn't make a difference who I am. Don't change the subject. What matters is will you, and 911blogger, and Luke and Brian from wearechange stop promoting fake victim family members?
YES or NO?
--Joshua
When you say...
"your an idiot," be sure to spell it "you're an idiot." You are = you're, not your. It matters to me if your name is Joshua Smith. Otherwise, I couldn't care less about what you're trolling about. I have no idea who Harry John Roland is and have never promoted him idiot, and I have no say as to what's posted on this site or not.
Have a nice day troll.
Will 911blogger and WeAreChange do what is right? Yes or no?
Interesting response Jon. So I see it doesn't bother you in the least that wearechange supports and promotes fake victim family members. Again, it doesn't matter who I am and that's none of your business.
So you support wearechange who supports fake victim family members? That makes you part of their deception as well. And if 911blogger supports wearechange who supports fake victim family members, then they too become part of the deception. You see this is a truth group, or rather is supposed to be a truth group, movement.
But its apparent and obvious you have no regard for the truth Jon. Why am I a troll? Because I pointed out that all of you were supporting and promoting fake victim family members? Wouldn't that make you the troll Jon? After all, I can prove my claims, and they are true. And because they are true, I am a troll according to you? So let me get this straight. People who share the truth are trolls, while those who support and promote fake victim family members, like yourself, are the truth movement?
911blogger needs to make a public statement about this, distancing themselves from WeAreChange or risk being labeled a fake truth group like them. Not such a hard thing to do. We are after all in this for truth, right?
And time is about up for WeAreChange. It is really seriously obvious that they promote fake victim family members because they are a fake truth group. Or else they would have dealt with this right away and done what is right.
People like me will see this, will see that they promote frauds, and draw the simple conclusion, that people that support fake family victim members are fakes themselves.
--Joshua
Will 911blogger and WeAreChange do what is right? Yes or no?
I rarely support WeAreChange...
And I would never support the promotion of a fake family member or 9/11 first responder. Certainly not knowingly. You're a troll because you're making accusations against people that have nothing to do with this thread, you're a troll because you're spinning information to suit your needs, you're a troll because you're going into other threads that have nothing to do with Roland to spread your accusations, you're a troll because you've never posted anything on this site ever, and are now pushing these accusations. I have no idea who Roland is, at all. I've never heard of him, I've never promoted him.
Have a nice day Joshua troll.
This is a truth movement
This is a truth movement Goldilocks. And if you support an organization that pimps fake victim family members like wearechange, then your part of the deception. And if 911blogger supports wearechange then this will tarnish them as well. This isn't something they can ignore and have it go well for them. This isn't high school Goldilocks, it's a truth movement full of liars and fakes.
If you cared at all for the truth you would have written blogger and Brian and Luke and told them to jettison Harry and cut him loose because that's a damaging association. But the only thing you showed interest in here with is a few grammar mistakes on my part, while you seem perfectly happy and content to let this subject die and not care whether blogger and wearechange promotes fake victim family members.
You can call me a troll 15 more times for all I care, but everyone who reads through this entire thread will see it is you Goldilocks that are the troll! Trolls hate truth.
Good day!
--Joshua
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Joshua, Jon, everyone else; do not use insults or insulting names.
Joshua, you've posted all over this thread that Roland - who I've never heard of - is a fraud, but you've posed no evidence, just rants calling him a fraud. If you've got evidence, post it; there's no need to harangue people here.
In addition, you've accused Luke Rudkowski of embezzling $85K; again, post the evidence.
In addition, you've been posting in a demeaning way to other commenters here, despite not providing any evidence for your repeated accusations.
Lastly, do not post the same comment more than once in a thread; this is known as comment spam.
Don't say two
'cause that ain't true !