May 17, 2008 - New England 9/11 Truth Symposium, Keene, NH - The Jackman Jam Introduction to Daniel Hopsicker

I will re-post this with the correct searchable title for Google Video (I'm new at this), but for the time being, here's Daniel Hopsicker's talk from this past Saturday (with a Jackman Jam intro) - one of the most fascinating and compelling speakers I've had the pleasure of listening to not only in the "9/11 truth" genre . . . As they say, you could hear a pin drop. - Betsy.

"It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts ... For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it."
-- Patrick Henry, 1736-1799, American attorney, orator, revolutionary.


The crowd, and I loved what Eric and Mike did. It was absolutely hysterical. There's nothing wrong with having a little fun. I told Nick from Philly that I would have to watch Hopsicker's speech at least 5x to get all of the information.

Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

*comment edited to remove personal information

Mohamad Atta and the Venice Flying Circus (abridged)

Hopsicker has also written a comprehensive book on this subject titled "Welcome to Terrorland: Mohamad Atta & the 9-11 Cover-Up in Florida."

His web site is Hopsicker which which details connections between the owners of the flight schools, corporate fraudsters, intelligence operatives, and drug traffickers. Independent of Hopsicker, former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds (currently under a court-imposed gag order) reports that according to documents she was given to translate, the 9/11 conspiracy was made up not of Islamic extremists, but of overlapping organizations involved in money laundering, fraud, and drug trafficking.

I love the title of his new

I love the title of his new book coming out 10/01/08:

"Bushfellas: When the Mob Went Republican, All Hell Broke Loose"

Pre-order at:




I am as "newbie" as they get

I am as "newbie" as they get re filming video as you will see with the many shaky sequences here.

This amateur taping venture of mine was intended for my own personal use while practicing on a new simple vid camera that is popular with 11 & 12 year olds. (It runs on 2 "AA" batteries, no memory card, just a built-in one hour memory, with simple basic functions, Apple-like ease in using it, and no wires -just a flip-out USB connection to one's laptop. ) Had never planned on posting this, but Daniel's topic and the way he tells a story was absolutely mesmerizing, so wanted all to see ASAP . . .

Anyway, sorry for the video shakiness - balancing it on my hiked-up knee while sitting in an auditorium seat seemed to work the best, but I will look into a tripod.

The Google title issue seemed to resolve itself . . . .

Will post the last segments of this talk later today/tonight - have to pick up kids from school -


Did I hear Hopsicker correctly....

when he said an eyewitness/rescue worker had come upon a victim whose body was apparently sliced in half, bur was still conscious, had been on the plane? I've never heard any account where a passenger of one of the planes was found, much less alive (even if barely at that)? Does this sound plausible to any of you, in spite of the fact that the airplanes apparently blew up upon impact, and the buildings were reduced to such small pieces of rubble?

Sorry, but that part is somewhat confusing for me.


Edit: Apparently, according to him, he read about this in a book about the responders. I'll ask someone that knows how to get in touch with him to get the name of that book.

Why isn't Dick Cheney in prison?

This was particularly

This was particularly interesting to me, and I forgot to mention this to him later at dinner - that I had read this story too (I have the book - will go look for it later to get its title, etc), and it made a HUGE impression on me. The story haunted me for months - years, actually . . . . because I couldn't wrap my head around it . . . . It was a woman, I believe, and as DH said, that had come from one of the planes.
The author of this story, if I remember correctly, also mentioned seeing other people on the plaza (between the two towers which were still standing at this point) from the planes still strapped into their seats . . . (but not alive).

The triage had begun before all hell (even more) broke loose. It was an eerie story. It didn't seem possible that someone could be alive even if they survived being blown out of the plane.

Will let you know when I locate the book.

I spent over an hour last

I spent over an hour last night looking for this book . . . was driving me crazy . . . never found it . . . think I must have lent it to someone.

So went on Amazon, I believe this is the book:

"September 11: An Oral History" (Hardcover), by Dean Murphy

This particular story is on (99% sure this is it) pg 149: Tormented By a Conversation With Death by Ernest Armstead

This is definitely the book,

This is definitely the book, and the story I noted earlier (above?) is on pg 149. . . .

One of the eeriest stories I've read re that day. I read it 5-6 years ago, and it's stayed with me . . .

Maybe adding to the motivation to fight for truth and justice for the victims and their families . . . .

something bothers me about this...

Something doesn’t sit right with me about what Hopsicker said at around 43:59. He was referring to reading about a first responder “emergency tech” performing triage on a woman who had fallen out of a plane and despite the fact that she was missing the entire lower half of her body and had just fallen dozens of floors out of an exploding jet, she was still conscious. Huh? Is he serious? I’d love to hear/see corroboration/sources for that story.


he has chosen to operate at a distance from the 9/11 truth movement although he documents an important piece of the puzzle.

i also marvel at greg palast's ability to uncover very important information and yet completely miss the boat regarding the attacks of September 11.

Amen to Hopsicker's call for more investigative journalists

"I think what we need is for a lot of social activists to become investigative journalists."

Amen to that. IMO, it's one of the great failings of the 911 Truth Movement not to have corroborated and/or disconfirmed Hopsicker's findings.

Of course, if we had a properly functioning media, it would have covered all the ground covered by Hopsicker many times over. Furthermore, if we had a non-corrupt FBI, it would have covered much of the ground covered by Hopsicker. Instead, we're told that the FBI visited Mohammed Atta's neighbors weekly over a period of months following 911, trying to intimidate them into not saying anything to anybody, and in some cases, telling people "what they saw".

This appears to present no problem for the debunker community, who are content to point to Hopsicker's errors and say, essentially, "nothing more to see here'. Nor, of course, does it seem to be a problem for the masses of the American public, who mostly never heard of Hopsicker.

The question is, where is the 911 Truth Movement on this? I've noted previously that a lot (certainly seems like most) of activists' efforts get wasted, and not just 911 activists. While the problem of funding citizen investigative journalists is still being worked on (see, e.g., ), one would have hoped that, due to the extraordinary nature of 911, the 911 Truth Movement would have at least gotten it's act together sufficiently to fund 2 or 3 investigative journalists. Not to mention Hopsicker, himself, who, if his information checks out, deserves a medal.

So, for those 911 Truthers out there who are looking for some positive ways to express their citizenship, and are willing to make an honest appraisal regarding what is likely to make a difference, and what is not, I will second Daniel Hopsicker's statement that I quoted above, with the twist that it's neither necessary nor optimal for everybody to figure out how to get to Florida or Germany, and start knocking on doors. In fact, that's a really stupid idea - we live in a complex society that relies on division of labor. What we need is some investigative reporters doing the work that our government and media consistently fail to do and many more people supporting them. The beauty of crowd-funding is that it doesn't require huge sums of money by any contributor. A large crowd of funders need only fork over extremely modest amounts. The current Presidential campaign in the US makes crystal clear that crowd-funding works.

I've expressed many thoughts re a replacement media, which calls for built-in crowd-funding in that subscribers can "vote with their hands", by pro-actively directing a portion of their subscription fees towards topics of their own choosing, in a proposal called "Putting the NY Times Out of Business". Unfortunately, the forum that was on has gone kaput, and I haven't gotten around to putting the information up anywhere else.

Nevertheless, I recommend that all activists not just whine about the media, and try and figure out how to beg it to do it's duty (good luck with that one - talk about a waste of time!), but instead look to bypass it with something better, that is nevertheless accessible and desirable to John Q. Public. In terms of TV, broadband access makes exactly this possible, but it's surprisingly slow in coming. In the meantime, crowd-funding is just about here (see also ). Let's not wait another 7 YEARS to fact check Hopsicker.