Why would Al-Queda call themselves "The Database" in 1988?

>Al Qaeda is a name that this group choose for themselves.

No, buddy. That is not true.
There is no reference to Bin Laden ever using the term "Al Queda" until after 9/11/2001,
when he learned that this was what the Americans were calling him and his followers.

Will those who benefit financially, and for job security, use the term "Al Queda"? Absolutely.
"Oh yes", they'll say. "And they have high tech undeground bunkers in the caves of Afghanistan!"
Will the Northern Alliance accept money to help you find these complexes in the hills? Absolutely.
Have we ever actually found more than just some natural caves?

First, let's do a simple experiment to find out what Al Queda actually means.
1. Go to the Google Translator to translate from English to Arabic.
2. Type in "the base", click "Read phonetically", then click Translate
3. You will see it literally means "al Qāʻ-dh"

Also, you could also use http://www.farsidic.com/Translate.aspx
Farsi is similar, but displays their strange alphabetic characters, which read right to left.
You'll recognize this symbol on American made documentation about Al Queda.

Wikipedia defines Al-Queda as being founded between 1988 and 1989.

Sadly, Wikipedia is domineered by full time propagandists,
info-warriors whose job it is to keep the OCT dominant.
If you put anything contrary, they gang up and revert to what they want.
Wikipedia is seen as the definitive encyclopedia for many people.
They even put an "Al-Queda flag" (designed by who?) there to make it seem like it is a country.

Robin Cook, British Foreign Secretary from 1997 to 2001 (equivalent to our Secretary of State Hillary Clinton), wrote that Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden were "a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies", and that "Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of Mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians." - (CIA's "Operation Cyclone")
Source: Cook, Robin (2005-07-08). "The struggle against terrorism cannot be won by military means".
London: Guardian Unlimited. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/jul/08/july7.development

Now think....
You know, as a Computer Guy yourself, the state of computers in 1988.
Why would terrorists call themselves "the database"?
Why not "the sons of Allah" or "Warriors of the hills" or something inspiring like that?
What did Osama say? "Hey guys, let's call ourselves...(drum roll)...The Database!"
Seriously. How geeky!
So, in 1988 the terrorists entered their names on their computers?
There were no laptops then. What, they had Compaq's, the portable IBM PC?
How did they plug them in?
While marching through the hills of Afghanistan with no electricity?
Using what, dBase III?
Or maybe they carried a Macintosh II and used FileMaker?
Think. Who had the big databases and computers at that time?

Pierre-Henry Bunel, a former agent for French Military Intelligence:
"The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the 'TV watcher' to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US and the lobbyists for the US war on terrorism are only interested in making money."

Why give a group name to people who don't function as a group?
Why give them a name, to make it sound like they are a worldwide network?
It is much easier to prosecute people when they are said to be a part of a group.

Here is a BBC video about the origins of Al Qaeda, and where the term came from

This video shows how the Northern Alliance took millions of dollars from the soldiers to show them the secret underground cave complexes. But it turned out there were none. The N.A. also bamboozled them out of money by pointing out supposed Al-Queda leaders, who were actually innocent.

Jason Burke, investigative journalist for The Guardian and The Observer in UK, has written a book on how "there is no group called Al Qaeda"

Burke wrote an article in The Guardian "Al-Qaeda - a meaningless label"
"Al-Qaeda remains useful as a term to describe bin Laden, his close associates and the infrastructure created in Afghanistan between 1996 and 2001. We now need to recognise that, as that construction has now been effectively demolished, so should the label "al-Qaeda" be jettisoned"

Why would terrorists make Al-Queda - "The Database"?

Al-Queda means "The Database"
Why would terrorists make one?
To make it easier for police to locate them all if they find one of their computers?

Why would Al-Queda call themselves "The Database" in 1988?

Maybe Osama Bin Laden wanted a name that would inspire fear.
In 1988, many people were afraid of computers and learning database software.
dBase III was enough to scare anyone.


"dBase III was enough to scare anyone."

I laughed out loud at that one... I guess it takes an IT guy to get the joke..

Anyways, Al Qaeda means the base, not the database.

BIN LADEN: This has nothing to do with this poor servant of God, nor with the al Qaeda organization. We are the children of an Islamic nation whose leader is Mohammed.

We have one religion, one God, one book, one prophet, one nation. Our book teaches us to be brothers of a faith. All the Muslims are brothers. The name "al Qaeda" was established a long time ago by mere chance. The late Abu Ebeida El-Banashiri established the training camps for our mujahedeen against Russia's terrorism. We used to call the training camp al Qaeda [meaning "the base" in English]. And the name stayed. We speak about the conscience of the nation; we are the sons of the nation. We brothers in Islam from the Middle East, Philippines, Malaysia, India, Pakistan and as far as Mauritania.

Those men who sacrificed themselves in New York and Washington, they are the spokesmen of the nation's conscience. They are the nation's conscience that saw they have to avenge against the oppression.

Transcript of Bin Laden's October interview, 2002-02-05.

Obviously, I'm going to be attacked by people saying this entire transcript is fake. I'll take that in stride.

Google translate

Al Qaeda:

تنظيم القاعدة‎


قاعدة البيانات

Wikipedia's Arabic translation:


Arabic is a complex language. Just go to a mosque or Arabic friends and ask. Don't rely on computers for the finesses of linguistics, any IT expert knows this.

Can Al Quaeda also refer to the toilet or toilet bowl?

According to some statements I've seen on the web, Al Quaeda is a colloquialism that can refer in some Arab countries to the toilet, sort of like English speaker talk about going to "the can", "the john", or (in England) "the loo".

Can anyone verify if the following is true (I've also seen it frequently repeated at whatreallyhappened.com)?

"Ana raicha Al Qaeda" is colloquial for "I'm going to the toilet". A very common and widespread use of the word "Al-Qaeda" in different Arab countries in the public language is for the toilet bowl. This name comes from the Arabic verb "Qa'ada" which mean "to sit", pertinently, on the "Toilet Bowl". In most Arabs homes there are two kinds of toilets: "Al-Qaeda" also called the "Hamam Franji" or foreign toilet, and "Hamam Arabi" or "Arab toilet" which is a hole in the ground. Lest we forget it, the potty used by small children is called "Ma Qa'adia" or "Little Qaeda".

So, if you were forming a terrorist group, would you call yourself, "The Toilet"?

From: http://www.uaff.info/alqaedatruth.htm

Said Al-Fagih confirms

the did not use the term El Kaida themselves:

But: Google or look in historycommons for Azzam.

The MEK in Brooklyn looks like El Kaida- and the term was mentioned too. BTW: Azzam was most likely murdered to get bin Laden in alone control about this stinger group.

The database aspect was first highlighted by british MP Robin Cook here:

He died about 5 weeks later- heart stroke.
If you look carefully at Al-Fagihs testimony, it's absolutely not off limit that "database" in term is 100% spot on: a computer file list of Mudjahedeen used for the controllers (ISI, GID, CIA)

We are in a perpetual "Wag the dog" scenario.

Herblay FRANCE

many years ago in searching for the origin of the name "Al-Queda", I eventually fell on an explanation which seemed to be acceptable for the known facts. The FBI had to have an organisation name for the Interpol warrant on Bin Laden. The name they coined was "AL-QUEDA" as a back thought on their DATABASE names of Islamists fighting against the Soviet Union.

I tried to refind the reference but it does not seem to be still on the internet.

I found a page a bit similar at

In France we have been so much manipulated by the journalists on Al-Qaeda and it still goes on !

When will our journalists do their mea culpa on the lies about Bin Laden's super bunker with hospital for his kidney trouble, etc etc ?

And all their lies there are so many !

We are in a perpetual "Wag the dog" scenario.

OBL's Group OBLG. Not "Al Qaeda". Bush used the term "my base"

From an email debate with a friend:
>That's ridiculous. There is a huge amount of evidence that Osama founded al Qaeda and named it so. Just read some books.

Buddy, whenever you say "huge amount of evidence", that usually means you can't give even ONE example.
So you say "huge" as a bluff, thinking that no one will check. A common tactic. But I'm calling your bluff.
Where is even one example of OBL using that specific name prior to 9/11? Allegations are not evidence.

Give me one statement from OBL, not from others, where he calls his group "Al Qaeda" whether meaning the "base" or "database".
The inauguration of Al Qaeda would be quite a news worthy event, no?
So there must be many references to the birth of Al Qaeda and its "baptism" by that name.
It should be easy to find one.

>Man, you should read http://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/al-qaeda-international

This statement by FBI's J.T. Caruso is misleading, by implying that OBL (or UBL) named the group AQ.
"Al-Qaeda" ("The Base") was developed by Usama Bin Laden and others in the early 1980's to support the war effort in Afghanistan against the Soviets"

It would be more accurate to simply say "OBL's Group" which probably has been neutralized. There is no hard evidence OBL is even alive. Al Qaeda is a name that can live on forever, and be applied any group as convenient. So

My main point here is that Osama didn't coin the term. It was coined for him, for our convenience.
Al Qaeda is not a very scary term to someone who speaks the language.
It is a very general term. The "base" of what? It could mean anything. This serves the OCT quite well.
It is the most nebulous of the names of terrorist groups, most which state a specific purpose or location.
For example "The Palestine Islamic Jihad" or "Basque Fatherland and Liberty"
http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/terrorist-groups.cfm Center for Defense "Information"

OBL did not name his group "Al Qaeda", but calls us "the Infidels".
We do not call ourselves "The Infidels", but call the OBLG "Al Qaeda".

Al Qaeda is a general term that can be conveniently applied to whichever terrorist group is the focus at the time, regardless of whether there are any ties to OBL and 9/11, or not.
General terms, such as "Mafia", are useful for prosecuting mobsters, who go by "family" names if any.
Group naming is a very effective technique for prosecutors. It is a tool that has served public safety well.

So, I am going to use the term "OBL's Group" or OBLG, which is more accurate.
Al Qaeda is a misleading term., which is misused, and does not make America safer.
Belief that AQ = OBLG has made it easier to lose our Constitutional civil rights and American liberties.
Everyone should switch from Al Qaeda to the term OBLG to avoid such confusion.

If terrorists strike in Germany, most Americans don't give a schnitzel.
They will say "That's sad, but it's their problem" and switch the TV channel.
But if the News calls them "Al Qaeda, implying it is the same group that did 9/11" then Americans take notice.
Homeland Security says "You see? That's why we need to renew the Patriot Act!"
It's Job Security for Homeland Security, and all the contractors.

George W. Bush, for once spoke the truth in in his address to Congress on September 20, 2001:
"Al Qaeda is to terror what the mafia is to crime." (Yes, it a useful label.)