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New 911 Documentary Segment: Zeitgeist- Part 2

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Wow very good. Excellent

Wow very good.
Excellent production skills, and concise, clear content selection.. top marks!

Is there a part 1?

There is, but not 9/11 related...

Looks to be an examination of the historical roots of Christianity, I only watched the first couple of minutes...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8461754114455236037&q=zeitgeist...

full, part1, part2, part3

Or see it in it's entirty in one sitting ..

I found it much more powerful seeing the film from start to finish - it's threaded together with wonderful articulation and the upmost aesthetic. Use headphones - the music is composed well too.

LINK:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=928518742089256264&q=zeitgeist+f...

USE HEADPHONES

Headphones HIghly Recommended!!

I cant explain how important Part 3 is!!

If nothing else watch part 3.

Based on the comments here I only watched parts 2 and 3, as part 1is not for me.
The parts I did watch are very well done, and very well informed, and should serve to open peoples eyes, if they are not well versed in the deeper issues beyond 9/11. Great job, spread it to the four winds!

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Actually part 1

was excellent and well done, the only reason to say "its not for me" would be because you treat the FACTS about Christianity the exact same way that 50% of this country treat the FACTS about 9/11 which is Total Denial and flatly refuse to accept cold hard fact.

but why focus on christianity alone?

why not, if the intent is to denounce superstition, go after other religions? Ones that don't, for example, teach such nice messages of universal brotherhood (and sisterhood) and love as Christianity? Sorry, but singling out the Jesus "myth" for scrutiny is suspect.

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Ummm

ALL religions are represented here, in fact Christianity was LAST.
They are all basically the same and date back to ancient Sumeria, Babylon and Kemet, they are all tied together and Christianity is just re badged paganism of the many other Sun god religions that existed 1000s of years before Christianity was a twinkle in some Bronze age Bedoiuns eye.

Christianity does not teach universal brotherhood & love.

this is the fallacy

no, all religions aren't basically all the same and have the exact same root. This is the intellectual laziness that goes with this new age interpretation. Do research into what historians and archaeologists actually believe about the roots of various faiths in that region. It is NOT, "they are all about the sun, and rehashes of the same thing!"

some religions aims to free your mind

exactly!

some religions aims to free your mind, rather than enslave it.

The scope of the movie is about the mind-controlling religions, eg. ones that wants your money and your mind.

peace

I have researched

most of the "SUN GOD" based religions for over 34 years. I suggest you do a few years of honest research yourself, something besides "the bible says".
Look into the REAL origins of Christianity, the archaeological evidence is well documented and overwhelming.
You obviously know zilch about it.

zeitgeist

Part two is about the tightest half hour on 9/11 I can imagine. No hyperbole, just bullet points. Huge congratulations. But then, part 3 topped it with a state-of-the-art melding of the histories of the banking cabals, the debt pyramid, synthetic terrorism, Orwell's manufactured enemies and perpetual wars, and the Brave New World around the corner if we fail to wake people up. Phenomenal composition.

Zeitgeist part 3 is the most concentrated dose of true knowledge currently available. As Aaron Russo and G. Edward Griffin and many others have pointed out, the Federal Reserve and the other central banks are the nexus for the prison of bogus wars and terror hype that we are trapped in. Attack the fiat currencies and the chains of debt, and Oz and the Wizard crash, along with the funding for terror and the military-industrial complex.

Part 3

. . . is brilliant. Zeitgeistnyc has authored a manifesto of awakening. Thrilling stuff, compellingly told.
Watch this Part if it's the only one you watch.

WOW... That was intense !!!

Really good job, contained tons of info, all delivered with a punch !!!

A-Z of how the "elites" have manipulated the goodwill and naivety of the human psyche.

Would love to get hold of the high quality version, i.e. DVD, DivX / XviD to share with friends...

Any chance of putting the HQ version on torrent or binary newsgroups and posting the info here ?

Thanks for putting such a "work of art" together...

Best wishes

Well done

This is quite good.

Well done.

I keep being surprised at the original takes on re-presenting this information. This is a distillation of the intent of Terrorstorm, combined with the presence of David Ray Griffin, Steven Jones and others.

A good introduction piece.

Rep, if this video is saying

Rep, if this video is saying "Jesus is fake" then I don't think it combines any presence from David Ray Griffin, Steven Jones or Alex Jones for that matter. It’s like the no planes version of the Da Vinci Code, forget the conspiracy theory about Jesus having a surviving bloodline, he just straight never existed. Not something we need relating to 9/11 Truth frankly.

You'll be wise to push individual segements of the movie

As people will not want to watch the whole thing, and may be turned off and miss the 9/11 part before they even get to it.

P.S. the claim made that there were absolutely no historians of the period that mentioned Jesus is patently false. http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcno.htm

I'm sure art historians immediately after the death of Vincent van Gogh were just clamoring to write about his life story /sarcasm

There are basically 4

There are basically 4 historians people site to claim Jesus existed. 1) Tacitus 2)Pliny 3) Josephus 4) Suetonius,
-All poor, interpretive sources, while Josephus was proven a forgery.

The info denoted by these writers is obscure, ambiguous and FAR from any proof that the great "Jesus" existed in
all his fantastic, miracle ridden glory. I would say about 5 PARAGRAPHS exists outside of the bible which have any semblance of
this "Jesus" character... all interpretive. Not to mention you would think a guy who rose from the dead and all the other silly sci-fi crap,
would have made into into thousands of volumes of the historians... not a few paragraphs of dribble. Its pathetic.

911 was an inside job and Christianity is a fraud. It's time to wake up.

Jesus was way cool.

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The historical record of Jesus

Zeit-man, you have done a fabulous thing here. I will be burning a lot of these DVDs and passing them out as soon as you make it available - any plans for that?

I have not yet watched part 1 - the following comments are only in response to other comments on this forum including your own.

The historical record of Jesus is not restricted to the (4) sources that you mention. Jesus did not die on the cross, he survived it (having only been on the cross 3-4 hours) and made his way with one or more "disciples" to India. There are many books about the evidence of this and one particular source that is unimpeachable. Jesus lived a full life in India and was buried in what is now Kashmir.

Your otherwise fabulous video is self-denigrated by your prejudice and presumed knowledge of that which you cannot know - whether Jesus was a real or mythiical character. I can get behind all the denigration of religion and the way that religion is used by "the controllers" that anybody wants to put out there, but I cannot get behind speculation about Jesus' not having existed based solely on the limited sources that you mention. (And, I'm not a Christian in case you're wondering about prejudice on my part.)

As others have stated, your speculative statements about the existence of the historical figure we call Jesus constitute a serious flaw in what otherwise is a fabulous piece of work. Truth.

The work is an analysis of

The work is an analysis of information coming out of the Bible. I'm not talking about other people's ideas, such as "the jesus who went to india", as that isn't in the Gospels.
The Jesus OF THE BIBLE however, if ones take the time to research it fully, is nowhere to be found in the historical record, while nearly all aspects of this "character" are attributed to other pre-christian gods. The logic of the evolution of the jesus character in a "solar/steller" cult myths becomes very obvious.
Please watch part one.
I find it odd for you to criticize a part of the work ..........you haven't even seen!

this statement

"while nearly all aspects of this "character" are attributed to other pre-christian gods. " is repeated often in new age circles but isn't really true. Most of the aspects of the character is related specifically to the Torah and the psalms of the old testemant. The 'solar/stellar' generalization (Horus! Mithras!) comes from people who don't take the time to research the connections of the new testament to the old testament.

News editor at The Watchman Report, www.watchmanreport.com, delivering 9/11 truth to the Christian community

The Pre-Christan gods are a

The Pre-Christan gods are a reality. It's there for all to see.... if one chooses to see.
Go ahead and dismiss them.... they won't go away.
The truth will never go away.

pre Christian gods

are realities, and so is the Torah and the books of prophets and other writings that make up the Tanakh, or in Christian terminology, old testament books. Your response just shows you haven't done the research, sorry. There is at least a realistic argument that a jewish sect made up many or all of the stories in the gospels to fit their leader into satisfying hundreds of verses specific to the faith given in the Tanakh.

The Horus/Mithras stuff is just intellecual laziness and dishonesty, "Ooh, another story with a virgin birth!" "Another story with someone dying and coming back to life! Wow! That's incredible! I'm just going to disregard that just about every word supposedly stated by and every action supposdly taken by Jesus is specifically related to a section of the Tanakh."

News editor at The Watchman Report, www.watchmanreport.com, delivering 9/11 truth to the Christian community

Well I HAVE done my research

over 34 years worth in fact and what Zeitgeist is saying is absolutely correct.
Notice how you are doing exactly what those that refuse to accept the cold hard facts of 9/11 truth do, just flat out denial of what is right in front of your face.
The Bible is without any question just an Astrological Drama, even they way it was written in verses & parables, homilies etc are like old Pagan Passion plays which were acted out on a stage.
The NT follows a 1 year ministry of the SUN, first the SUN meets whom? well the first constellation of course which is Aquarius the water bearer (John the baptist).
Whom does the SUN meet second on his 1 year trip? The 2 Fishermen (Pisces). and so on all through the bible.

How is it that the SUN manages to ride BOTH an "ass, and on a colt, the foal of an ass" into Jerusalem in August? Well maybe it just could be that Cancer is rising that month and the SUN passes through both of the stars that make up the claws of the constellation Cancer and guess what the names of those stars were in Chaldean star charts... Yep "The ASS & THE FOAL....DOH!
Today they are more commonly known as "Asellus Borealis and Asellus Australis" (The Northern and Southern Donkey/Ass).

I think Part one is a good precursor to 9/11 truth because it shows exactly how ignorant myths become fact in the minds of the delusional.
Millions have been fooled into believing the myth of Christianity, so too have millions been fooled into believing the utter BS of the Official Government Conspiracy Theory.

you haven't done enough research.

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I have forgotten more than you will ever know

"which pagan tradition are you referring to here? Because it isn't true."

This proves your ignorance of the subject as you don't even know about pagan passion plays which were extremely popular for many centuries, the orators were literally the rock stars of their day.

The gospels are passion plays designed to be read or acted out in front of an audience. Passion plays were a common feature of pagan religion. Looking at the Gospels themselves one finds a chopply written, scene by scene, display of the life of the God man. Only the important aspects of his life are described. The minor events and influences of the life of Jesus are not recorded, which leaves one to think that the Gospels are indeed a play.
One in particular that comes to mind is the "Yusirian Drama", which was the enveloping of a priest in a shroud by two other priests, disguised as wolves. These two wolflike characters – portraying the divine guides of the dead – conducted the shrouded one to a temple of Auset/Isis outside the city where they left him. They would later return and lead the shrouded priest, who enacted the role of King Rhampsinitus, back into the city. On his return, the shrouded priest brought with him a napkin, supposedly given to him by Auset. Parts of this ceremony became the narrative in the Gospel of John where we read of visitors to Jesus’ tomb beholding a napkin and a shroud and two angels.
Another is the Drama of Bel

The bible is written as a stage play, verses, acts, etc this is obvious to anyone not brain dead.

I have spoken to MANY scholars of ancient religions, have also read many diaries of several archaeologist , I also have about 85 volumes in my library concerning this subject.

You have no clue what you are talking about, all you are doing is grasping at straws out of desperation to defend your belief in your sun god.

http://www.africawithin.com/studies/egyptian_great_year.htm

http://www.litjournal.com/docs/fea_pagan2.html