WeAreChangeLA questions Candidate Gravel on the People's Understanding of False-flags as a Potential Trim-tab

A couple of weeks ago Mike Gravel was in Los Angeles. During the Q+A, I first thanked him for talking about the "military-industrial complex" in the 1st presidential debate, and then asked him to speak on the potential power of understanding false-flag operations as a mechanism of war and Empire. He proceeded to speak on his ideas for global democracy, making the convincing case that there already is global governance, it just has been hijacked, misused and abused. I then asked him again to speak specifically to my question. Although he brought up some interesting points, I remain unconvinced that a better "system" will cure us of our ongoing treasonous hijackings, and a bit puzzled by why he won't speak to the "false-flag" mechanism even in a historical sense.



http://www.911blogger.com/node/10786 -"Mike Gravel Supports 9-11 Criminal Investigation On Air, a week after Mike Medved says "No" to Respectful and Rational Dialogue"

Since Gravel is the man who helped get the "Pentagon Papers" into the public record and stop the draft, he has clearly proven his moral and intellectual courage in a big way. This is why I want him to articulate this key point in a powerful way. After multiple attempts, and multiple endorsements for a new and criminal investigation for 9-11, he doesn't appear to want to go deeper. How can we get courageous people such as Mike Gravel to speak to this?

p.s. On Buckminster Fuller and the "trim tab" concept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trim_tab

p.p.s. Bucky Fuller on whether we will make it:

p.p.p.s. Fuller on the possibility we can make make sure everybody on the planet can live very well... by 1985. OK we're behind, but it is not over yet.


It’s great to see a politician being asked real, substantial

questions for a change. All those silly one-liners being asked of Hillary for example are a huge distraction from crucial issues.

Also, I wish older guys/gals who aren’t even running for anything, like Mike Gravel, would step-up to the plate regarding our corrupted government, voting fraud, false-flags, and of course 9/11 truth. (If necessary, I’ll do it, but I’d rather not spend the rest of my life as an unpaid volunteer fighting for 9/11 justice. It’s time for honest politicians & other professionals to do their share also.)

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Typical Question & Answer with Hillary:

Q: Mrs. Clinton do you think all children should have health insurance?

A: Yes, I believe all children should have health insurance, and by golly, we will get them that health insurance if you elect me to be your next President!

Audience response: Thunderous applause, standing ovation!

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With all due respect . . .

I can't understand a WORD that Mike Gravel is saying. Please repost this video with subtitles.

sorry about that

His words are hard to decipher. I admit it is hard to hear. I don't think Bruno has time to transcribe it if he could even hear it all. It did seem that Gravel dropped his voice a bit.

I used to think Gravel's idea of Direct Democracy...

was a step in the right direction. But I'm now moving more in the direction libertarian-anarchism.
Shumonik didn't you once post an article on anarchism here?

If you're interested here's an article by Roderick Long that I thought was really good: Libertarian-anarchism: Responses to 10 Objections

I did though I would not define myself as an anarchist

http://www.911blogger.com/node/13456 -- "Constitution, Capitalism and Anarchism: Moving Beyond Corporatism in a post-post-9-11 United States of America"

My article had to do with pointing out the anarchist concepts that our Republic is in resonance with. I personally like to draw inspiration from different political and social conceptions. Thanks for the article. I think we are going to have to rejuvenate the idea of the nation state in order to move as quickly as we need to in addressing our planetary ecological/economic crisis ( the fact of starving children alone should be enough motivation for mass mobilization), and I also think that it is one good level of organization for the people of the world to collaborate and relate.

I think the hyperlocal and the bio region are the best scales to really build the fundamentals of a good life with health, love and real security. But the scale of the nation-state has a rich history with cultural sensibilities and powers of mobilization that are important to reinvigorate in a healthier manner. And if you look at the back of the Permaculture Handbook by Bill Mollison, you will see that the ideal amount of members of an intentional community is about 200, just about the number of nation-states we currently have defined on our planet. Good cooperation and healthy competition can come from this level of organization.

I am just very suspicious of the idea that Gravel is putting forth of a "fail safe" system of direct democracy. My point is that false flag terror, coups and provocations of all sorts can act to undo any system, no matter how well intentioned and conceived if the people are unaware of the toxic mechanisms. Yes systems need remaking, undoing or refreshing, but more important than the system is the consciousness, commitment, understanding and relationships of the people.

“Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.” –Plato

"We must speak the truth about terror." --George W. Bush

Excellent example for all to follow

This is how these confrontations should occur. First a rapid machine gun burst of false flag facts, followed by a conservative statement about what we know about 911, in stating there is Treason among the top. Not like the amateurish Luke Rudkowski, who despite--or perhaps BECAUSE OF-- his antiproductive methods is the most famous of these confronters.

Shumonik, if that's you in the video, you set an example for all confronters to fulfill. Of course, the audio of Gravel was bad, and next time you should try to confront someone on the "other side" so to speak - but most crucially: without losing the professionalism which was the great achievement here.
I look forward to your next one, and hope it's someone on the other side, and this time with better audio or transcript at least.

"To know a thing well, know its limits. Only when pushed beyond its tolerances will its true nature be seen."
-The Amtal Rule, DUNE

Good Job, WeAreChangeLA

You're doing good work by producing these videos. Keep it Up. Video clips are important documentation! Thanks.

...don't believe them!