9/11 Truth Takes Over MSNBC Hardball at the Denver DNC
corbettreport Tue, 08/26/2008 - 7:33pm
Watch as Chris Matthews' MSNBC Hardball at the Denver DNC is taken over by Alex Jones and We Are Change Colorado, whose "9/11 Was an Inside Job" chants can be heard as loud as the program's hosts thanks to Jones' bullhorn:
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Do Kucinich's principles and morals have an on/off switch?
Check out his speech from the DNC in Denver here.
Go to the 5:25 mark. It's disgusting..."Up with the Democractic Party; Up with Obama + Biden."
Yuck!
I don't know why Kucinich is still pitching the corrupted
Democrat vs. Republican paradigm. Most top Dems are on the same team as most top Repubs: the NWO/globalist team to destroy U.S. sovereignty! It's a one-party system with two similar factions now!
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A lot of people think there are only 2 sides to a coin
Well they're forgetting about the actual side of the coin that wraps around it. That's the side where people like the Ron Pauls and Dennis Ks and all the other controlled opposition operate from.
IMHO of course
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That is a good point
The two parties should be exploited for their ballot access and their access to televised debates.
However, the pro-party by line by Dennis was completely unneccesary. His speech would stillhave been perfectly acceptable to the people that were there if he had just left it out...
Kucinich.
Kucinich also said something to the effect that it is no longer about "left" and "right" but about up and down. And here he talks about 9/11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUD4MG7kw44. I still think he is letting the country down by not speaking clearer and stronger about 9/11 though. He's on our side though. America.
Ya, parts of his DNC speech were good
For example he talks about government surveillance. I wonder if consciously did that so create some cognitive dissonance in people since people are supposed to be rallying around the Messiah who supports FISA...
But, I found the partisanship a real awful political move...I wonder what his wife thought of that?
And regarding his "up and down" comment, I thought that was just another piece of empty rhetoric...
Yeah...
... his "Wake up, America!" call didn't sound very sincere, either. If he would really want people to wake up, he would tell the message of 9-11 Truth. THAT would wake people up to the whole enchilada, not just "oil companies" and "military contractors" etc. But, I guess, he doesn't want people to COMPLETELY wake up, either... Just a little bit...
It is amazing how much even the "good" politicians, such as Kusinich and Paul, are willing to waste their energy talking about 1000 issues, surrounding and following from, the 9-11 when just one issue -- 9-11 Truth itself -- would solve all of them in one shot!... What's the matter with them?
Disappointing
I understand that all politicians play the game, but that was too much. Is he so naive that he thinks the current Democratic Party leadership or an Obama administration would want to work with him on anything?
Kucinich should stick with a more principled approach. I can understand backing Obama because McCain would be even worse, but that is not the same as being mindlessly enthusiastic about it.
Exactly!
I hope both Dennis and Ron leave their respective parties. I think over the next year or two, that might be is a distinct possibility for both of them. While in office they simply would need to renounce their parties and become independents (I think the awful Lieberman did this).
Chris Matthews looks ridiculous
Real journalists deal with what is actually happening, and what is actually happening there is a crowd of angry patriots are demanding to heard. That Matthews and friends pretend not to even hear them is an excellent object lesson in how the MSM works. When it comes to the truth, they can't hear it, they can't see it, and they sure won't speak it.
Well said Sheila.
Very well put. I will keep your words in mind the next time I see a journalist of any kind. Thank you.
With you in the struggle,
Bruno
WeAreChangeLA - http://www.wacla.org
I agree this shouldn't be
I agree this shouldn't be the only way to do it, but you might as well use free speech while it's still available. If Alex Jones and others want to cram the truth down the msm's collective throat, then I'm all for it. The only ridiculous people to me are those who hang on Chris Mathews' every word and cheer for the Blue team over the Red team, or vice-versa.
Well said!
Well said!
Alex Jones' chanting "9/11 was an inside job" was like music
to my ears! Some sheeple might criticize Alex, but he sure does get the truth out!
Chris Matthews is as lame a journalist as he was a politician to ignore a story like that. (Perhaps that's why his detractors nicknamed him "Tweety" as in the cartoon bird of the same name & resemblance to him.) According to Wikipedia, Matthews tells people he's conservative & voted for George W. Bush in 2000, as if that's proof of good judgment.
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I agree that conservative ideas
are a waste of time. But you missed the other half of the left-right paradigm--so, are liberal ones.
Conservatives want to be your Daddy.
Liberals want to be your Mommy.
Libertarians just want to leave you alone.
Fire depts + populated cities + public schools
1. That a complete strawman that libertarians are opposed to fire depts. Libertarians are opposed to the initiation of coercion. So that means that we are only opposed to governmental fire depts as they are funding by taxation which is coercive. Libertarians are in full support of fire depts that are funded voluntarily.
2. If you are saying that libertarians don't do well in populated cities, you are saying specifically that liberty does not work well in populated cities.
What do you want in these cities if not liberty? Slavery and coercion?
3. You support governmental schooling? Have you not noticed how dumb the populace is?
eroded...? What ACTIONS have you done personally to...
eroded, What ACTIONS have you done to broadly get the truth out to individuals and the public? What specific things have you done to actually spread the word?
--Have you passed ourt thousands of 9/11 Truth DVDs?
--Have you put hundreds of flyers on cars?
--Have you held banners or freeway blogged?
--Have you posted signs?
--Have you mailed envelopes of DVDs & info cards to officials?
--Have you contributed money to any of the many endeavors to get the truth out?
.......I notice the caustic cynicism, but what constructive things that encourage people towards positive directions in the 9/11 Truth Movement have you done personally?
Now you're just trying to flame it up.
Take a lil' holiday, bud.
I find your animosity toward Libertarians somewhat amusing
It reminds me of the part in the movie "Oh Brother Where-art thou" where Baby-Face Nelson freaks out and starts shooting the defenseless cows. "I hate cows!" tat-tat-tat-tat-tat... I'm not sure what freedom has ever done to you but I'm sure it's sorry. My start in this movement began with research in basic economics. The path has led me to studying philosophy, religion, 911 and politics. When you begin to understand the mindset of the evil-doers running this world you see the whole game is about control. Collectivism is their philosophy. The idea of "Sacrifice the few for the good of the whole" is the tool they will use to get their minions working for them... "911, although tragic is a necessity for the common good." is probably the notion they set forth to make 911 happen.
The libertarian ideal is quite the opposite of this thinking. No life can be sacrificed for the common good.
Individual freedom is what this country was founded upon. Jefferson based the writing of the Constitution upon this basic philosophy which was inspired by Thomas Paine. Does the idea of freedom really seem unrealistic?
Nice analysis
I like that question: What has freedom ever done to you?
Poor, poor, clueless person...
... because of the fascist money system, your were poor and only had a choice of public schools. Schools that are underfunded, where underpayed teachers have to buy supplies and school lunches are almost as bad as McDonalds.
If you want to hold on to the idea that Democracy is akin to breast-feeding the nation's socialist programs, that's fine. If everybody wanted to suck the teet, we'd have Communist China or the USSR, here. Otherwise, we have a mix of private and public money.
Regardless, until this corrupt money system is eradicated, the only hope for change are Libertarian thinkers. Will "libertarians" ever have a majority? Will they be able to topple the banking giants that run your life and corrupt your mind?
Stay tuned.
Nice post
If it wasn't for this fascist money and economic system, the above poster most likely would not have been poor.
If there had been an actual free-market, his family would have been able to pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
You parents still paid for your education through taxes
You seem to be implying that you got it for free. That is a common liberal myth (.ie "free" education, "free" healthcare).
And furthermore, you're parents probably paid more for it through taxes than tuition for an equivalent education would have cost at a private school.
Why? For the simple fact that government bureaucracies are so damn inefficient...
Nice work Alex, Luke &
Nice work Alex, Luke & WeAreChargeColorado...
RIGHTEOUS!
Fantastic! Fantastic! Way to go team! YES YES YES! Absolutely RIGHTEOUS!
YES YES YES
With you in solidarity,
Bruno
WeAreChangeLA - http://www.wacla.org
Perfect.
The dam has broken.
WOOOO!
WOOOO!
see no evil. speak no evil, hear no evil -> No one is there ?
John A MITCHELL
Herblay FRANCE
I'm sure I'll get grilled for this, but...
Rather than screaming 9/11 was an inside job over and over, and consistently repeating Infowars.com as if he's marketing his business, couldn't he of approach this with a better tag-line?
Again, I respect Alex ten fold. However, I don't respect continuing using tactics that have failed time and time again sinnce 9/11/01.
We've used the same tag lines, attempted to do the same things, confront the same people, yell and chant about controlled demolition.... for seven years. And, we've only gotten so far. Every "marketing campaign" runs its course, and I feel as though the idea of the "Inside Job" has done so years ago.
Behavior like this GIVES the media an excuse of portraying our movement as fringe as they want it to be.
I don't understand why more people do not approach this situation in a similar matter...
Talk logical, question 9/11, open the eyes to people when you outreach - but let THEM make that 'lunatic fringe theories'... let THEM be the ones to consider things as direct government involvement, let THEM be the ones who question if the towers came down in controlled demolition...
We should all serve as nothing more than the 'window of opportunity' to reach out to people..
Let the people we talk to decide, if they want to climb through that window and question all aspects or not...
In the long-term, this may work... and besides, at this point, what do we have to lose?
What we've been doing and saying has only gotten us so far and marginalized the entire movement further and further...
Isn't it about time we change our tactics and approach this in another light?
I guess the term suits this entire situation well, however - Different strokes for different folks...
Regards,
Mark in Philly
http://www.FealGoodFoundation.com
I thought the 9.11 truth signs
were very effective. I was wondering why I did not see them for David Gregory's show or any other MSNBC shows, later on.
If you're in CO or near it, get you're sign out & start talking with everybody there.
Go, WeAreChange!
I support any public action that peacefully and clearly states the case. "9/11 was an inside job!" is an appropriate yelling point (How do you like that? I just made it up.) if the situation allows for only bullhorn slogan shouting. In other situations, more detailed information should be provided.
Overall, I love these actions of WeAreChange and of Alex Jones. They are among the most inspiring actions of any human anywhere I have ever seen.
Keep it up, please.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Mark in Philly, why should we pretend not to know?
I am fed up with seeing how the 911 Truth movement buys into the corporate propaganda that there is something wrong with being a conspiracy theorist. Say it loud and say it proud: there is a conspiracy! And I have a theory about it!
Who among us, who has spent hundreds if not thousands of hours studying this, does not by now have a pretty good idea what happened? We don't know every last detail, sure, but we know who's responsible, why they did it and, in broad strokes, how they pulled it off.
Why exactly should we pretend not to know the things we know? The only possible reason would be that you are buying the propaganda that, above all else, you MUST not appear to be a conspiracy theorist.
Why should we say "we are only asking questions," when that is just not true?
And that is letting THEM determine the parameters of the debate.
He who determines the parameters of the debates wins.
Hmm...
Yes, we in the 'movement' may like them... but again, I pose the question, is there a better way to go about doing this to be more EFFECTIVE in demanding accountability?
After seven years of the same thing, I feel like this is a perfectly legitimate question that should be discussed.
Regards,
Mark in Philly
http://www.FealGoodFoundation.com
I agree that the question
I agree that the question should be asked. My personal opinion is that it is very effective. What it shows is that 9/11 Truth is not going away, and indeed, is getting even stronger. I strongly believe that for people like my own family members, watching Chris Matthews, this has to be very disturbing. Disturbing in a good way, as in, "Jeez, maybe there is something to this 9/11 Truth thing."
I'm not even a big Alex Jones fan, but my heart rejoiced to hear his bullhorn voice over and over.
I say keep it up!
Does this really work?
Maybe its better to focus on 9/11 truth candidates running for congress like Kevin Barrett. SInce Ventura Bailed, He's the only one left, he could get a good result, I heard a rumor he was banned from this forum, big mistake for the 9/11 truth movement, to not help someone that can really make a difference in Congress. I enjoyed his radio show as well, he had some really intelligent renouned guests like former winner of the Outstanding Invstigator grant from the National Cancer institute Dr. Garth Nicolson and also renouned scientist, winner of Bill Clintons National medal of science and NAS member Dr. Lynn Margulis.
Maybe supporting an articulate Phd running for congress would work just as well if not better than screaming, not that I didnt enjoy this video and salute Alex Jones for his passion, but there are other things that can help in addition to this.
if Kevin Barret was banned
if Kevin Barret was banned from this site it was because he on his radio would constantly promote guests who wanted to speak about directed energy weapons and holograms as planes.
very destructive for the 9/11 truth movement, significantly more so than a man screaming at the news.
he always came off to me as very disinfoy, not like alex jones who means well but is crazy from time to time.
Dr. Barrett
Can be very articulate and is running for congress, I didnt like it either when he gave any credence about no planes, but in listening to him he doesnt support those theories and dedicated little time to topic. Most of his show had some powerhouse scientists on as I mentioned above, and his website for congress mentions the topics that important to us, and makes no mention of no planes. My point is that if Dr. Barrett did get elected it would be a true breakthrough, he would filibuster about 9/11 on the Congress floor, and while I agree that grassroots efforts that Jones uses are good, but if Barrett got elected it would be a national media brakthrough, much more that would be accomplished by crashing Hardball.
It's not a good time for the truth movenent to abadon somebody who's got the guts to run for congress on 9/11 truth/anti war platform. Even if Jessie Ventura did run and win, I doubt he would spend nearly as much time and indignation on the 9/11 issue as Dr. Barrett would. Nevertheless Ventura seems done with politics, so all alternative media, including Alex Jones etc should do the same thing for Barrett that they did for Ron Paul (who never supported 9/11 truth), help him get elected.
I don't see anything on his site about no planes. Infact here is his statement from his congressianl website, totally reasonable.
Investigate 9/11
By Kevin Barrett
The American people are gradually waking up to the fact that the official story of 9/11 is the biggest load of hooey ever dumped on the heads of a once-free people. I don’t know exactly what happened on 9/11, but I do know that we need to find out.
9/11 was the worst crime ever committed on American soil. But Bush admits that Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. And even our own FBI admits that there is “no hard evidence” linking Osama Bin Laden to 9/11. If Saddam didn’t do 9/11, and Osama didn’t do 9/11, then who did? The 9/11 Commission Report says it doesn’t matter. That’s right! The 9/11 Commission Report says that the question of who financed 9/11 is of “little practical significance.” Wait a minute...the biggest crime in history, and it doesn’t matter who paid for it?! Obviously the 9/11 Commission was a whitewash. We need a new investigation, followed by prosecutions of the criminals.
I’m going to level with you: I have been studying 9/11 for four years, and I am convinced that overwhelming evidence shows that it was a false-flag operation. (For the best two-minute video on 9/11, click here. For readings on some key 9/11 evidence, click here.) I have no doubt that if we can get a real investigation, we can easily prosecute and jail the guilty parties. It will be a difficult, shocking experience for our country. But if we let it go—as we did with JFK—who knows what the next outrage will be? We need the truth. We owe it to the survivors—especially the family members, who have a right to know why their loved ones died. We owe it to the first responders, who were lied to about the air being safe to breathe, and who are now dying. We owe it to the million people murdered in the 9/11 wars. We owe it to our Constitution, which has been treated like toilet paper. We owe it to America’s good name, which has been dragged through the mud. In the end, we owe it to ourselves, our children, and our country. Anyone who isn’t pushing as hard as they can for a new, genuine 9/11 investigation is not only unfit to hold office—they are unfit for citizenship in a free nation.
http://www.barrettforcongress.us/
Check your email box.
Thanks.
a Plus that LA Mayor Villaraigosa was on the set to witness this
Just as it was A+ that Matthews happened to be on the Bill Maher show at the opportune time. I wonder if Villaraigosa is coming back to LA after the convention, or if he is returning to Israel to turn over more control of our ports and water treatment to them!
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jun/19/local/me-mayor19
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.
Nice work!
Nice work!
Déjà vu all over again
It's uncanny how similar this is to the media's orchestrated blackout last winter of the Ron Paul campaign. Even when this "reporter" (Mockingbird flunky) is surrounded by chanting activists, he determinedly avoids even naming what those activists stand for (he has his directives, after all), while talking up the boring, hackneyed business-as-usual with front men for the controlled candidates.
How important that we only hear two Democrat functionaries predictably cheering on the DNC nominee! Let's not be sidetracked by devoting even five seconds to the "crazies" who aren't aboard with the Beltway establishment!
one finger salute to the shrub
Alex- I fucking love you man!!!!!!! And everyone else working so hard on this. It warms my heart. Alex- you have inspired me to begin my own tv show. It is on local cable. This friday at 9:30pm ET it is streaming live at 23friends.org, or google MCAM. This will be the fifth show. Calum and myself are working diligently to hit 911truth hard in the "live free or die" state of NH. At my graduation from college, I had two commencement speakers-President Clinton and President GHWBush. GHWBush gave some advice that I have taken to heart. He said: roll up your sleeves, take your passion to your part of the country(except I don't think he used the word 'passions'), and make a difference in your part of the world. George. I took your advice.