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Voter Fraud in the USA? It can't Happen Here!

Best Individual Elections Information News Articles:

New York Times: Serious Problems at the Ballot Box, Tens of Thousands of Votes Uncounted
http://www.WantToKnow.info/061130ballotboxproblems

CNN: Voting Machines Put U.S. Democracy at Risk
http://www.WantToKnow.info/cnn.votingmachinesdemocracy

Electronic Voting Machine Failure Rate of 10% Reported by Los Angeles Times
http://www.WantToKnow.info/050806dieboldcoverup

Washington Post/MSNBC News: Electronic Voting Machine Security Condemned
http://www.WantToKnow.info/postelectronicvotingproblems

Newsweek Reports on "most serious voting-machine flaws ever"
http://www.WantToKnow.info/060527electionsvotesmanipulations

Best Elections Information Free Videos

HBO's elections documentary Hacking Democracy is a highly revealing, 80-minute video uncovering crucial information about new computer voting systems, which allow a few powerful corporations to record our votes in secret. Both Republican and Democratic candidates found their votes blatantly manipulated, yet most of the media somehow failed to report these astonishing incidents. This is not a question of who or which party wins, but rather of whether or not we are living in a truly representative democracy. The second inspiring 90-minute video shows how one average American made a big difference in exposing what was going on. The third video, Votergate is a 35-minute investigative documentary feature film which also presents an abundance of excellent, reliable information.

http://www.WantToKnow.info/electionsvideodocumentary - HBO: Hacking Democracy

http://www.freeforall.tv - Free For All!

http://www.WantToKnow.info/votingvideodocumentary - Votergate

Best Elections Information Summaries

For the best, most concise introduction to elections information, we highly recommend our elections summaries. These fact-filled summaries provide revealing elections information from respected media sources with links direct to the articles on their media websites for easy verification of all information presented. When you read all of this information, you will likely join us in asking why no media organization is bringing all this information together to encourage voters to demand a return to a truly representative democracy.

http://www.WantToKnow.info/electionscoverups - Two-page elections information summary

http://www.WantToKnow.info/electionsmanipulations - Ten-page elections information summary

http://www.WantToKnow.info/votingproblems - Who Counts Your Vote (two pages)

Elections Information Subtopics

Elections Guide: Save Time By Quickly Finding Endorsements of Organizations You Like
http://www.WantToKnow.info/elections/elections_endorsements_comparisons_propositions...

A Brief History of Computerized Election Fraud
http://www.WantToKnow.info/electionsfraud

Two Strange Deaths Which Changed History: Wellstone and Carnahan
http://www.WantToKnow.info/wellstonecarnahan

U.S. Elections "November Chaos": What You're Not Being Told-

U.S. Elections "November Chaos": What You're Not Being Told-Corbett-Chossudovsky
GlobalResearchTV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-TRMobiiNQ

Published on Nov 4, 2016

The FBI's October surprise has thrown the 2016 election into November chaos. But an examination of the trigger mechanism behind this event reveals a deeper layer of manipulation by the media and financial interests behind the election. This is the GRTV Backgrounder with your host James Corbett. This report also includes an Interview with Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

Latest from Steve Pieczenik...

AWOL on 9/11

I am grateful for this silent coup, but at the same time I am deeply troubled at the lack of action after 9/11.

We know that the FBI covered up the truth of the hijacker patsies and to this day continues to withhold records (80K in the Florida Bulldog case).

We understand fully that the CIA provides aid and comfort to rag tag mercenaries that the military uses for target practice, killing many innocents in the process.

So I challenge Dr. Piecenik, again, reveal the name of the general that told you 9/11 was in inside job.

Until you do, in my mind, you insiders of the intelligence community are nothing more than the prevailing mob trying to protect your turf from the encroachment of a different mob.

5 Stars on this excellent report!

She lays it out extremely well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fat63bqvG8

October 2001 - Mike Pence Responds After Anthrax Scare

October 2001 - Congressman Mike Pence Responds After Anthrax Scare
(One Minute video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-bpLtrYmM0

Mike Pence tried to blame Iraq for 9/11 and the anthrax attacks

In 2002, Vice President-elect Mike Pence tried to blame Iraq for 9/11 and the 2001 anthrax attacks. I kid you not!

In June that year, he told Congress that there was “a growing list of facts that suggest Iraqi involvement not
just in the events of 9/11, but perhaps ... even in the events and circumstances that led to the anthrax bacillus finding its way to Capitol Hill.” See: https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2002-06-17/html/CREC-2002-06-17-pt1-PgH3565-4.htm

Around the same time, he wrote to then Attorney General John Ashcroft and put forward his incorrect assertion that Iraq was involved in the anthrax attacks. You can read the letter here: https://web.archive.org/web/20021002051402/http://mikepence.house.gov/news.asp?FormMode=ViewOpEds&ID=18

The Los Angeles Times published a good article about Pence’s odd theories about the anthrax attacks, which you can read here: http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pence-anthrax-20160717-20160715-snap-story.html

Thanks so much Shoestring!

I was hoping someone would fill the void, because I am not up to speed with the Anthrax nor Pence.
We seem to have some of the same 9/11 actors on board with this Presidency.

(By the way Shoestring, the "I kid you not" line is one of my personal favorites to use...I kid you not.) ;)

Giuliani as attorney general?

Yes, it would be best if there weren't too many 9/11 players in the new administration. I certainly hope Rudy Giuliani won't be the next attorney general, as some have predicted, considering that Giuliani has been such an ardent promoter of the official 9/11 story.

49ers’ Colin Kaepernick says voting would be hypocritical

49ers’ Colin Kaepernick says voting would be hypocritical
11/14/2016
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/49ers%E2%80%99-colin-kaepernick-says-voting-would-be-hypocritical/ar-AAkg8tp?li=BBmkt5...

QUOTES
Kaepernick said: “You know, I think it would be hypocritical of me to vote. I said from the beginning I was against oppression, I was against the system of oppression. I’m not going to show support for that system. And to me, the oppressor isn’t going to allow you to vote your way out of your oppression.”

Under his sport coat, Kaepernick wore a black T-shirt with a quote attributed to Malcom X in large lettering, “If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything.”

Wow! If he really does do it...all hell will break loose.

QUOTE
...Pressed about the attacks on the World Trade Center, and his plan to prevent further massacres, he said: “First of all, the original 9/11 investigation is a total mess and has to be reopened.
Speculating over the collapse of the skyscraper after the attack, he said: “How do two planes take out three buildings in the same day?
“I never got my head around the fact that nothing is mentioned about the destruction of Building 7 in the 585-page document.”...
...“Americans deserve answers and I would definitely request a new investigation so that this horrible tragedy never happens again.”

FALSE STORY

According to Metabunk
https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-donald-trump-promises-to-reopen-9-11-probe-fake-news.t8144/

The Richmond, VA rally of 10/14/15--see @ mark 50:45 and after-- Trump talks about false stories.
http://www.c-span.org/video/?328732-1/donald-trump-campaign-rally-richmond-virginia

I listened to the whole thing and heard nothing concerning a new investigation.

Just because the story is false, doesn't mean something positive won't come from it. If this gets enough traction Trump may have to respond. But I believe he's smart enough to wait until after 1/20/17.

Power to the People - The New Revolution - James Corbett

https://www.corbettreport.com/notmypresident-draintheswamp-the-real-revolution-is-already-here/
The REAL Revolution Is Already Here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVJo-3JbCdY

QUOTES
..."There is an anti-establishment revolution going on. An yes, maybe one of the symptoms of that is what we saw with Brexit or what we saw with the election of Trump.
There is something taking place which is seen as a sea-change in politics. But it is not about politics.
There is an anti-establishment mood in the air THAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING.
There is already a Movement that is taking place. And it has nothing to do with the politics itself. That is the symptom, not the cause of what is happening right now.
What is happening right now is the radical decentralization of everything.
And that decentralization renders the political system itself moot.
It doesn't matter who presumes to be "In Charge" of the country or the world if that world is a self-organizing, spontaneously organizing system of free anarchical* relations between individual human beings.
And those free individual associations are being empowered in ways that would have been unthinkable even 10 or 20 years ago...."

* Anarchism
Anarchism is a "decentralization of state control" philosophy that advocates self-governed societies based on voluntary institutions and interactions; the elimination of the state in favor of individual sovereignty, private property, and open markets, and with a revolutionary form of free-market that focuses on employing counter-economic activity to undermine the centralized control of the state.

~~~~~~~~~
(Reminds me of what we tried to do in the 60's... "Power to the People")

The Missing Liberty Movement and the Post-Election Blues

The Missing Liberty Movement and the Post-Election Blues
Truthstream Media

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za5D0o3U6jU

Published on Nov 18, 2016

Watch our short documentary OBSOLETE on Amazon here! http://amzn.to/2f69Ocr

So it took me a few weeks, watching all of this unfold, to actually finally force myself to make this video.

And this, this right here, is why the focus of this channel has to change. We will be shifting to the deep, historical conspiracy-related research we've been working on for more than a year now and some of the other things going on in the background while they want everyone to focus on manufactured crises and "Hey look! Shiny things!" Time to look at how we got here, who put us in this box, and why. We just can't keep talking about ridiculous election rituals and daily news "programming" for the same reason we don't sit around banging our heads against a brick wall all day long or rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It's. Ultimately. Pointless. Time to move on now. Come with us.

Love you all.

Truthstream Can Be Found Here:
Website: http://TruthstreamMedia.com

Not sure what to make of all this latest...

From the Catholic Church, to Franklin Scandal Cover-Up, Penn State, Dennis Hastert, Jeff Gannon, Jimmy Savile, etc...

List of times the government admitted Pizzagate is real: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2390296

CIA & Pizzagate Connections: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1671832

https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@fuckcensorship/the-truth-has-no-bias-the-real-origins-of-r-pizzagate-and-the-pizzagate-pedo...

https://steemit.com/personsofinterest/@ausbitbank/persons-of-interest-james-achilles-alefantis-aka-jimmycomet-at-comet-pin...

https://www.facebook.com/CynthiaMcKinneyOfficial/posts/10155480933098312

Message to Journalists: https://archive.fo/MrsGu

Reddit Summary: https://web.archive.org/web/20161122041513/https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5da0kp/comet_ping_pong_pizzagate_su...

Excellent Summary: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1467064 previously https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1463959

Historical Evidence: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1cm0t3/original_research_the_mountain_of_evidence_for_a/

Getting up to speed on #pizzagate, image version - https://i.sli.mg/lwgIgH.jpg ; https://sli.mg/a/ybiz3L or https://i.sli.mg/KQXrne.jpg

1) https://archive.is/Skffh/f8aafec78a3510c257d9a0ccb2327ef5165787e6.jpg
2) http://archive.is/zv4ti
3) https://archive.is/oNGH6/535a11aca2b00cc94fdbf6a7c60c29c68431d778.jpg

https://twitter.com/suziedaud/status/807006224059432960
https://web.archive.org/web/20170403083923/https:/twitter.com/Suziechka/status/807006224059432960
https://imgur.com/a/AkrNx

http://tinyurl.com/j45fpvo

http://www.istockpicshub.club/2016/11/conspiracy-of-silence-1994.html

PizzaGate Child Trafficking Allegations: William Ramsey & Kurt Richard Haskell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouA1NFhjwaU

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/technology/fact-check-this-pizzeria-is-not-a-child-trafficking-site.html

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/10/business/media/pizzagate.html

http://fortune.com/2016/11/22/comet-ping-pong-hillary-clinton-fake-news/

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-11-23/a-fake-pizzagate-conspiracy-for-our-fevered-age

http://www.npr.org/2016/11/27/503489400/fake-news-surge-pins-d-c-pizzeria-as-home-to-child-trafficking

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/22/james-alefantis-dc-power-player-blasts-insane-redd/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/28/andrew-breitbart-tweet-before-death-adds-fuel-to-o/

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/563846/twitter-child-sex-porn-ring-pizzagate-gamer-leaks-thousands-of-social-m...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/de-blasio-reads-book-kids-mirrors-fund-raising-probe-article-1.2620104

http://nypost.com/2016/12/08/hillary-clinton-lives-are-at-risk-because-of-fake-news/

www.reddit.com/r/pizzagate banned by Reddit Admins on 11.22.2016
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/

https://www.ceddit.com/r/pizzagate/new

http://www.snopes.com/pizzagate-conspiracy/
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/content/pizzeria-not-child-trafficking-site#axzz4QnHBCN6L

https://www.corbettreport.com/reddit-bans-pizzagate-investigation-the-corbett-report-continues-it/

James Corbett & James Evan Pilato Discuss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vvMb61vw0s

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/11/9-11-minute-videos-01-pedophilia-spirit-cooking-hidden-e-mails-clear-see-president-...

http://beforeitsnews.com/economy/2016/11/9-and-11-minute-videos-01-pedophilia-spirit-cooking-hidden-e-mails-as-clear-to-se...

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/11/32-minute-evidence-video-pizzagate-01-pedophilia-satanism-lie-started-illegal-wars-...

http://beforeitsnews.com/economy/2016/11/32-minute-evidence-video-pizzagate-01-pedophilia-satanism-this-with-lie-started-i...

https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/first-blog-post/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/11/23/fearing-yet-another-witch-hunt-reddit-bans-pizzagate/

https://www.rt.com/usa/368025-reddit-ceo-posts-modified/

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/reddit-bans-pizzagate-investigation/

http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/conspiracy/13-essential-data-points-pizzagate-pedophilia-allegations/

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-38156985?ocid=socialflow_twitter

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5g3ywi/for_pizzagate_skeptics/

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1463959 now https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1467064 - Welcome to Pizzagate: Fully sourced, simply organized, summary and history of main findings

PIZZAGATE Original Post (From Reddit/r/the_donald) http://archive.li/2ibMh

Videos:
Pizza Gate in 3 Minutes - https://youtu.be/9itWsqzFMVo
14 Minutes on Pizza Gate - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR-0NeFFAz0
24 Minutes - https://youtu.be/Z4OP--ZXOjc Mirrored supposedly here: https://youtu.be/t1BiBnEUqKw [22 mins]
Titus Frost Full 106 Minute Documentary - https://youtu.be/beqdw19Uj6E

There's precedence to uncovering these types of stories, this latest one in the pattern, may be the breakthrough we need to expose crimes such as 9/11 as well.

Foreign Links/Resources:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/norway-paedophile-ring-police-arrest-51-men-a7432441.html

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/3f53996696a24d0da8c1d8fb117beca0/norwegian-police-arrest-20-men-pedophile-network-probe

http://www.newnationalist.net/2016/12/10/150-terabytes-norway-busts-largest-dark-web-child-porn-networks-in-history-us-uk-...

Wapo delete: https://web.archive.org/web/20161121114717/https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/norwegian-police-arrest-20-men-in-p...

ABC delete: http://web.archive.org/web/20161120230530/http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/norwegian-police-arrest-20-men-ped...

NYT Delete: http://archive.is/http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/11/20/world/europe/ap-eu-norway-pedophile-network.html

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/20/norway-donations-to-clinton-foundation-to-fall-nearly-90-off-peak/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hundreds-arrested-as-canadian-police-smash-global-paedophile-ring-8940562...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/dec/09/police-confirm-83-potential-suspects-identified-in-child-sex-abuse-scandal

http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports/2016/12/the_english_soccer_sexual_abuse_scandal_is_like_penn_state_on_a_larger...

Australian 60 MInutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRObgttIyeg

New York Times 1982: http://www.nytimes.com/1982/07/27/nyregion/boy-sex-rings-said-to-peddle-client-data-to-foreign-agents.html

Chicago 1977: http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1977/05/16/page/1/article/chicago-is-center-of-national-child-porno-ring

http://edition.cnn.com/2001/LAW/09/10/child.exploitation/

Anderson Cooper CNN on 5,000 US Gov't officials and military personnel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6W8H5Z0XAc

Toronto Star Canada: https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/01/17/chilling-evidence-of-organized-child-sex-abuse-revealed-in-survey.html

James Alefantis on FOX News: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RG5ME72tWo

CBS News' Ben Swann: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5AxV1SrTkE

http://www.cbs46.com/category/306621/reality-check-with-ben-swann

Wikileaks: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/821595404500430848

Joe Biden: "Time to Wrap It Up", at least her Dad knows what's up - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYqOqu3oioI

Marty Leeds (Flat Earther) Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6vvx2rHid0
https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/8yb3et/youtube_has_taken_down_the_pizzagate_primer_video/

Historical Graphic: https://twitter.com/suziedaud/status/807006224059432960
https://web.archive.org/web/20170403083923/https:/twitter.com/Suziechka/status/807006224059432960
https://imgur.com/a/AkrNx

I wholeheartedly agree

"There's precedence to uncovering these types of stories, this latest one in the pattern, may be the breakthrough we need to expose crimes such as 9/11 as well."

ALTERNATIVE MEDIA

Now, President Obama has decided to throw his hat into the ring by sharing his thoughts on how illegitimate news could affect the political process. The Hill reports that during a press conference in Germany on Thursday,

Obama said that if Americans can not “discriminate between serious arguments and propaganda, then we have problems.”Obama went on to argue that because websites containing misinformation are often packaged “very well” it may inappropriately affect voter attitudes towards political candidates.“If everything seems to be the same and no distinctions are made, then we won’t know what to protect,” Obama said. “We won’t know what to fight for.”

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/here-is-the-list-of-web-sites-you-should-be-reading-daily-a-few-of-these-web-sites-m...

TDC Note – Congratulations to one and all for making the hit list!! This means you are among the best of the best and should hold your head high!! The Daily Coin will strive to make the lest next year!! We can only hope the people at Fort Liberty notice our outstanding coverage of what is actually happening in and to our world.
by Mac Slavo, SHTFPlan

The Fort Liberty web site recently published a list of web destinations that they say distribute wildly unbelievable and bombastic claims with little or no reference material or sourcing.

A few of these web sites may be run by truly insane people who actually believe what they publish, but if so that is a small minority. One of the proofs of this is how obviously fake the articles are.

As you’ll note from the list below, many of the sites mentioned are some of the most popular in alternative media with communities in excess of millions of readers monthly.

While there is no doubt that a small percentage of reports being made available in alternative media are inaccurate, that same could be said for mainstream media news. The nature of the news cycle is such that sometimes a report is issued before all the facts are in. To suggest that every site on the list offers only fake news, hoaxes or satire is obviously disingenuous, as web sites that made the list such as Infowars.com, Intellihub.com, NaturalNews.com, BeforeItsNews.com and TheDailySheeple.com regularly cite not one, but multiple sources, often directly from the mainstream, for the news reports and commentary they are issuing.
Thus, the hoax being perpetrated, ironically, appears to be coming from Fort Liberty, rather than the scores of web sites they identify in their list.

What we know from past “lists” identifying many of the same web sites you’ll see below is that these are exactly the web destinations you should be visiting regularly, as they provide a level of news that is often impossible to find through mainstream sources.

We’ve included the list for you below. The original list was published without hyperlinks, presumably because the authors do not want readers to actually visit the web sites in question so that they can determine for themselves the legitimacy of the material. We have thus added clickable links so that you, the reader and independent thinker can make the determination for yourself.

We are, by the way, a bit upset that we did not make this year’s list. It would have been an honor to be listed among some of the world’s leading alternative journalists and information aggregators . We’ll try harder in 2016! However, we are truly thankful that our sister web site The Daily Sheeple (which, incidentally, heavily cites and references a majority of all articles being published) was included in the ranks of the best of the best.

21StCenturyWire.com
800WhistleBlower.com
ActivistPost.com
Alternet.org
AmericanNews.com
AntiWar.com
BeforeItsNews.com
BigPZone.com
Chronicle.su
ConsciousLifeNews.com
ConspiracyWire.com
CountdownToZeroTime.com
CounterPsyOps.com
DailyBuzzLive.com
DailyCurrant.com
DCClothesLine.com
Disclose.tv
DuffelBlog.com
DuhProgressive.com
EliteReaders.com
EmpireNews.net
English.ruvr.ru
EUTimes.net
FederalistPress.com
FreePatriot.org
FromTheTrenchesWorldReport.com
GeoEngineeringWatch.org
GlobalResearch.ca
GonzoGlobe.com
GovtSlaves.info
GuardianLV.com
GulagBound.com
HangTheBankers.com
HealthImpactNews.com
HumansAreFree.com
Huzlers.com
InfoWars.com
IntelliHub.com
LewRockwell.com
LibertyNews.com
LiveFreeLiveNatural.com
NationalReport.net
NaturalCuresNotMedicine.com
NaturalNews.com
Newswire-24.com
NoDisinfo.com
NotAllowedTo.com
Now8News.com
NowTheEndBegins.com
PakAlertPress.com
PoliticalBlindSpot.com
PressTV.ir
PrisonPlanet.com
RandPaulReview.com
RawForBeauty.com
RealFarmacy.com
RedFlagNews.com
ResponsibleTechnology.org
RT.com
SecretsOfTheFed.com
SouthWeb.org
TheCommonSenseShow.com
TheControversialFiles.net
TheDailySheeple.com
TheFreeThoughtProject
TheLastGreatStand.com
TheNewAmerican.com
TheRacketReport.com
TheRightPlanet.com
TheRunDownLive.com
TheUSPatriot.com
TopInfoPost.com
TruthAndAction.org
TruthBroadcastNetwork.com
TurnerRadioNetwork.com
UndergroundHealth.com
USAHitman.com
VeteransToday.com
WesternJournalism.com
WhyDontYouTryThis.com
WorldNewsDailyReport.com
WorldTruth.tv
YourNewsWire.com

Orangutan, you are right. "Child Molestation"

"Child Molestation" is so reprehensible that I think most folks would get on board to expose it.
It is apolitical putrid stuff.

This Pizzagate stuff has some alarming information.
If that info becomes highlighted and the public enraged, then perhaps 9/11 could later follow.

Pizzagate now banned on Reddit -- Corbett now has Open Source

BREAKING: Reddit Bans #Pizzagate Investigation. The Corbett Report Continues It.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub0JDnaU9UA

LINK to Open Source Investigation
https://www.corbettreport.com/reddit-bans-pizzagate-investigation-the-corbett-report-continues-it/

A YEAR AGO

Pedophiles Run the Government and No One Gives a Damn - BFP Roundtable Published on Oct 22, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFZRQcSMeeM

SHOW NOTES AND MP3: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=16682

Today on the BFP Roundtable James Corbett talks to Sibel Edmonds, Peter B. Collins and Wayne Madsen about the Hastert scandal and cover up, the history and context of this story, and the remarkable lack of public interest in the case.

Recent Arrests...

Upload of Ben Swann's CBS Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GZFHLAcG8A
Secret Plea Deal: http://www.washingtonblade.com/2017/01/25/prosecutors-offer-plea-deal-comet-pizza-gunman/

California: http://ktla.com/2017/02/01/474-arrested-28-sexually-exploited-children-rescued-during-statewide-human-trafficking-operatio...
Memphis, TN: http://wkrn.com/2017/01/27/human-trafficking-operation-in-memphis-nets-42-arrests/
Pennsylvania: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/pennsylvania-men-dressed-furries-arrested-abusing-boy-article-1.2959680
Haiti: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/Haiti-police-arrest-dozens--arrest-12-in-human-trafficking-ring
Haiti: http://sentinel.ht/2017/02/06/haiti-police-rescue-31-girls-child-trafficking-sting/
Haiti: http://sentinel.ht/2017/02/06/clinton-foundation-quits-haiti/
Haiti: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/02/clinton_foundation_implosion_continues_as_two_more_programs_ditched.html
Detroit: http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/defenders/2-children-saved-22-people-arrested-for-human-trafficking-during-detroit-auto...
Pennsylvania: Jeff Sandusky: http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/13/us/jerry-sandusky-son-charged/
Ohio: http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/cuyahoga-county/strongsville-international-adoption-agency-raided-by-fbi/408463967
San Diego: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/sd-me-human-trafficking-20170131-story.html

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1646582
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5ubdit/its_happening_updated_compilation_of_all_sex/

Major media crash: they need a scapegoat Nov 20 by Jon Rappoport

Major media crash: they need a scapegoat
Nov 20

by Jon Rappoport

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/major-media-crash-they-need-a-scapegoat/

They kept telling the American people Hillary Clinton was going to win the election; and in every way they could think of, they told the American people this was a good idea.

Then, on election night, they, the media, crashed.

The results came in.

The media went into deep shock.

As protests and riots then spread across America, the media neglected to mention a) they’d been bashing Trump because he said he might not accept the outcome of the vote, and b) here were large numbers of people on the Democrat side who weren’t accepting the outcome of the vote.

A new campaign had to be launched.

Suddenly, on cue, it was: Hillary Clinton lost because “fake news” about her had been spread around during the campaign.

Fake news sites. That was the reason.

These “fake sites” had to be punished. Somehow. They had to be defamed. Blocked. Censored.

Here is an excerpt from a list of “fake news” sites suggested by one professor. The list is circulating widely on the Web: Project Veritas; Infowars; Breitbart; Coast To Coast AM; Natural News; Zero Hedge; The Daily Sheeple; Activist Post; 21st Century Wire.

Free speech? Bill of Rights? Never heard of it.

Obama put in his two cents: “Because in an age where there’s so much active misinformation and it’s packaged very well and it looks the same when you see it on a Facebook page or you turn on your television…If everything seems to be the same and no distinctions are made, then we won’t know what to protect.”

Excuse me. “We won’t know what to protect?” Meaning what to favor, what to promote, what to lie about? Meaning only some speech is free?

Obama is way, way behind the curve. Thousands of websites and blogs have been exposing major media as fake for years. I started nomorefakenews.com in 2001.

If Google, Facebook, and Twitter keep expanding their censorship of “disfavored messages,” they’re going to pay a price. More and more users will go elsewhere.

The facade of the major media is getting thinner. You can see a glow of rage and resentment behind it. They’re desperately looking for revenge on the millions and millions of people who are deserting them and laughing at them.

They presumed too much. They presumed they had us in the palm of their hand. We were their property. We were transfixed by their authority.

All that is going away. Bye, bye.

The big shift is accelerating. Independent media are in the ascendance. Understand that. Recognize it.

The impossible is happening.

Fake news sites? Please. The major media are the biggest fakes the world has ever seen. Their anchors and star reporters are bloviating cranks. They’re dinner-theater actors.

Over the years, I’ve talked to some of them. I’ve warned them of their coming troubles. They were miles away from believing me. Now, they’re starting to sweat blood.

Major media news for America is still basically manufactured in New York and Washington—plus occasional outbursts from Hollywood creatures who bemoan the decline of inclusive liberalism, as they expand their gun-toting security staffs and dig deeper bunkers. The New York-Washington axis exists in a self-serving bubble, which has now taken serious punctures. The delusional attacks against “fake sites” underlines how out of touch these elites are with the rest of the country.

Independent media outlets are winning. They won’t be stopped.

When the people who now head the tech giants were growing up, they were heralding the Internet as a new era of free information-exchange. But now that they find themselves working with the government in the Surveillance State, they’re fronting for censorship. In fact, they’re showing they were never for freedom. That was a pose all along. They were, from the beginning, agents of repression. They can try to stop independent media now, but they will fail.

Fake web sites? What about fake companies? What about Google, Facebook, Twitter? Behind their happy-happy messages, they were built to propagandize, profile, and control.

Understand this: major media have a rock-bottom article of faith. It is: “We own the news.”

They can’t give it up. They’ll never give it up. It fuels everything they do. It’s the substance and core of their attitude.

As their ship goes down below the waves, they’ll be chanting it. “We own the news.”

But they don’t. In truth, they never did. For a time, they managed to sell that delusion to the people.

That time is drawing to a close.

power outside the matrix

The elite political class and their media minions fear more than independent news countering their own news. For obvious reasons, every civilization down through history has had its own monopolistic media, its central “broadcasting system.” Its controlled outlet. But now, The One has become Many.

That is the threat.

The rapid proliferation of The Many is an unpredictable X-factor.

The population is waking up to decentralized media. Instead of the hypnotic attachment to one basic information source—the habit of a lifetime—the public is learning to handle multiple sources. Therefore, the hypnotic spell is being broken and dissolved.

This is the basic problem for the elites.

How can they reinstate the trance?

By trying to censor the Internet? By creating a sudden war or other disaster, briefly “unifying” the country? These are not permanent solutions, particularly since more and more people understand such maneuvers and their true aims.

Awake is awake. Putting the genie back in the bottle—particularly when major media denizens aren’t very bright, as evidenced by their latest “fake news” scam—is on the order of trying to perform a piece of stage magic after the audience has already learned how it’s done.

Of course, the media clowns will try. And in the process, they’ll further expose themselves and actually assist in the awakening.

Boom.

Propaganda, Media, Pizzagate, Wikileaks, Podesta, Soros, ....

This election cycle has been very interesting, especially because so many different types of Media have gotten into the fray.
And let's not forget that blogs and comment boards and Twitter also count as Media.

There are definitely some power shifts in the control of public perception.
It certainly startled the Main Stream Media and Government Propaganda arm to see the power shifts...we can tell by their post election reactions.

A couple "odd" observations...
I have noticed that many of the Progressive Democrats who would never go near 9/11 Truth, never would even consider Hillary's crimes. ...like wearing "horse blinders".
Also another oddity... like Melissa Dykes notes in Joe's comment above: "What happened to the Liberty Movement?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za5D0o3U6jU

Donald Trump - 9/11 interview(s) - InfoWars ...and other with ?

Trump campaign supporting media, InfoWars, recently (Nov 25) headlined:
Watch This Viral Video of Trump on 9/11
Trump gives insight on 9/11 from the perspective of a skyscraper builder

http://www.infowars.com/watch-this-viral-video-of-trump-on-911/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0STS7HBi5Cw

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However, this video shows Trump with ambiguous perspectives about 9/11
"Donald Trump's 9/11 Truth ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXeI6F0FCYI

Have a laugh! - Propaganda -

WEBSITE Is It Propaganda Or Not? listing such places as Washington's Blog, CorbettReport, Ron Paul Institute, Global Research, etc. etc. (9/11 "truthers" included)
http://www.propornot.com/p/home.html

QUOTE
"We call on the American public to:... ....Obtain news from actual reporters, who report to an editor and are professionally accountable for mistakes. We suggest NPR, the BBC, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, Buzzfeed, VICE, etc, and especially your local papers and local TV news channels. Support them by subscribing, if you can!...."

CorbettReport's reporting on the propaganda against propaganda.
https://www.corbettreport.com/what-i-learned-from-the-propornot-propaganda-list/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D9W3EHKrTE

History Summary of Judy Wood -- ...a revisit

I get pretty cranky when I see someone on a comment board repeatedly try to promote Judy Wood (or Fetzer or Morgan Reynolds).
I ended up revisiting some of the history of that era. Many of us remember what a mess it was.

History Summary of Judy Wood (read some of the comments also)
http://911blogger.com/news/2008-11-16/my-really-really-bad-judy-wood-experience

And in case any of the covert government agents need to pool more trolls for Judy Wood, internet mercenaries can be hired here...
Internet Mercenaries & Trolls For Hire
https://www.fiverr.com/categories/online-marketing#layout=auto&jls_ca2_auto=2&page=1

Nader's take:

I supported Bernie Sanders and despised both Clinton and Trump.

Actors used in Bombing deception -- Media headlines "tragedy"

Published on Nov 2, 2016
The Latest on the conflict in the Iraq and the battle to retake the IS-held city of Mosul; Iraqi police say a parked car bomb has exploded in Baghdad's northwestern neighborhood of Hurriyah, killing at least 10 and wounding 34.
As reported on ABC, AP, Reuters, Dailymail, Global News, etc.

(3 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpyIfGtX43Q

"Why?" explained...

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Here is a queued video where Corbett discusses kakistocracy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92T6cVlXcyg&feature=youtu.be&t=40m
(40 minute mark)

Here Sibel Edmonds has red ears about kakistocracy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XMoejT3lKs&feature=youtu.be&t=8m42s
(8:42 minute mark) - Rewind to hear examples of kakistocracy.

In Oct 2016, even Forbes talks about kakistocracy. Investing in a Kakistocracy
http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellewitt/2016/10/13/investing-in-a-kakistocracy/#13378cab79c1

QUOTE
“The Greek word “kakistocracy,” which I learned from Peggy Noonan, describes a state or government run by the most unscrupulous or unsuitable people – in other words, the world we live in today. Corrupt, dishonest and incompetent politicians, regulators and bureaucrats were put in charge by self-absorbed, selfish and ignorant citizens…The country needs a political lobotomy….”

Dec 5th - Newsbud on Fake News and Propaganda

Fake News: The Latest Effort to Destroy Alternative Media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88w_J_KsSv0

NEWSBUD - http://www.newsbud.com/

Another slip of the tongue/gaffe

Senator Feinstein "Not The 9/11 BOMBING But The One That Took Place Earlier"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edm38RSnBVE

secrets they dont want to keep

Even the recent CIA confirmation hearings is in this context when they are talking about KSM in the "unclassified" setting. The cringe was obvious. It's common knowledge in the IC that all 3 WTC buildings were blown up and has been for a long time... almost as long as a critical mass of regular people have known.

Feinstein, like C Matthews, know and want to talk. They are looking for an out and we should encourage them.

Dec 23 2009 - Santa Claus Brings 9/11 Truth to Japan

Dec 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iKVLA6Lcec

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Dec 24 2016 - Christmas in Japan - "Kentucky Fried Chicken"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59YERtEpk5Y

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Uploaded on Nov 2, 2008
The Corbett Report traveled to Osaka in western Japan on Nov. 1, 2008 to attend the Osaka session of the 2nd 9/11 Truth International Conference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJUopTJaxgU

12th Grader interviews USS Liberty survivor - Dec 2016

USS Liberty Survivor Sergeant Bryce Lockwood Reveals Truth about the USS Liberty False Flag Attack
Published on Dec 24, 2016

In this interview High School Senior Luke Marshall talks with Sergeant Bryce Lockwood who was aboard the USS Liberty on June 8th, 1967. They talk about whether the attack on the Liberty was a false flag, the role people such as LBJ and Robert Mcnamara played in the attack, and Zionism in politics. Luke states: "The lesson to be learned: the men who were on the Liberty and their families deserve justice. We must get Israel out of American foreign policy and put an end to Zionism and Israeli oppression of the Palestinians."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6k7RQccuzU

Luke Marshall's website
http://voluntaryist.com/fundamentals/introduction.html#.WGPHL68ixKY

Two Documentaries...

Killswitch (2014) - this documentary deserves a lot more recognition. a journey into what it means to have access to information and disallow the control of knowledge through the internet. our moral imperative.

New Pizza Gate Documentary from an admittedly Flat Earther, with mistakes...

#pizzagate, The Unbiased Facts.

Today's Superbowl in Houston

Who was it that was always predicting a false flag event at almost every Superbowl?

It just occurred to me that considering the present state of affairs in the US, who now occupies the Oval Office and where the event is being held.....

No, I'm not a "conspiracy theorist", but if there were ever to be a false flag at a Superbowl, I think this one would be it....at halftime would be my guess...sparing the teams but not the fans....perhaps Lady Gaga's day has come ......

What strange times we live in....(and quite desperate for certain elites).

The truth shall set us free.

Love is the only way forward.

(Love x Truth) X Action = Peace

April 2017 - Obama & 9/11 Timeline: Cantor Fitzgerald

April 2017 - Obama & 9/11 Timeline: Cantor Fitzgerald
From: Corbett Report's Interview 1271 – New World Next Week with James Evan Pilato
Sources Listed - https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1271-new-world-next-week-with-james-evan-pilato/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuU1luqCJGw

4/18/2017 - Corbett interview with William Pepper - MLK

William Pepper on The Plot to Kill King
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm1xciRzxPQ

LINKS (including “The Children of Vietnam” from Ramparts Magazine, 1967)
https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1272-william-pepper-reveals-who-really-killed-mlk/

Great interview

This is an excellent interview. William Pepper on top form and more great work from the Corbett Report.

Good one here as well!!

Good one here as well!!

Dr. William F. Pepper @ "9/11: Revealing the Truth / Reclaiming Our Future"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXgPnaQKcyw

Hollywood actor John Heard was a 9/11 truther

Anyone who has read about the sad recent death of Hollywood actor John Heard--best known for his role in the movie Home Alone--may be interested to know that Heard had openly questioned the official 9/11 story. Check out this short video from 2010, in which he is shown giving a passionate speech on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWmWszJANFo

Thanks Shoestring

July 23 - Former Forbes blows whistle on 9/11 and more

James Corbett had this to say about the above article.

James Corbett had this to say about the above article regarding the Benjamin Fulford interview....

Fulford? Really?

In 2006, Fulford issued an ultimatum on behalf of his super secret ninjas to the Illuminati to cease and desist their destruction of the world. ( http://www.savethemales.ca/002056.html ) Oddly, the fundamental power structure of society failed to change overnight.

In 2007, he predicted that Bush would resign to be replaced by Al Gore, and that the secret government that runs the US and EU was conceding to his secret ninjas plans ( http://benjaminfulford.com/secretgoverment.html ). Oddly, no such thing happened.

Also in 2007, Fulford revealed that he was communicating with the ghost of his great-frandfather, who was writing letters to Rockefeller and revealing how the “matrix was about to collapse.” ( http://www.rense.com/general79/benjk.htm ) Oddly, his great-grandfather’s ghostly letter to Rockefeller inviting him to meet Fulford in Ontario resulted in no response whatsoever ( http://www.rense.com/general79/fulf.htm )

In 2008, Fulford predicted the complete failure of the US economy on Sept. 30, 2008. ( http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=55392.0 ) Oddly, the economy failed to stop functioning and the US currency failed to disappear by October 1st of that year.

In 2009, he claimed to have had a strange creature removed from his spinal cord during surgery which was apparently causing him to have “weird visions.” ( http://www.rense.com/general84/abso.htm ).

I could go on. And on. And on and on. But if it is not evident that this man is either delusional or spreading deliberate disinformation by now, then I shudder to think what will become of a society whose powers of logic and reasoning have fallen to such a low level.
~James Corbett 7/25/2017

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Corbett Report Channels…

WEBSITE - https://www.corbettreport.com/

BitChute – https://www.bitchute.com/channel/corbettreport/

Corbett Report YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7TvL4GlQyMBLlUsTrN_C4Q

Corbett Report EXTRAS YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM6EbmEFrTbrQ_31bUx5h3w

Deep State forced out of hiding.

Newsbud - Aug 5th, 2017 - under 7 minutes

The Real-Life House of Cards: Insider Deals, Murder & Espionage- The Clintons, Seth Rich & Awans!’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTR1SbAawK4

Good things.

Q, Q-anon, Qanon

Very brief

 

I have been somewhat engaged with the relatively new phenomenon known as Q, Q-anon, Qanon, ... since November 2017(started October) - seemingly a group in the Trump-administration, including Trump, communicating with us awakened about key subjects to deal with such as black-hat power structures, treasonous corruption, federal reserve, human trafficking, pedophilia, ... and lately 911 have been surfacing in several threads...

I can highly recommend the FB-forum "QAnon Think Tank" https://www.facebook.com/groups/128873227790999/ (a closed group)

Hope to see you joining the conversation and activism!
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A recent post entry:
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"'Oldfag' here.
Been lurking since October, made a few posts but mostly just observing, archiving, expanding my thinking and learning. My working life was as a coder turned systems analyst, so as an analyst I am more inclined to observe effects in order to discover the cause. I specialize in timelines for insight. The Q timeline pace is accelerating significantly in April. As we are likely about to enter a SHTF period very soon, I thought now was a good time for a few observations on a questions Q has posed many times.

Why did Q team choose 8chan for Q comms?

1. ‘’’Truthseeker base already in place on the chans.’’’ Army of frog autists adept at ferreting out obscure details of their pet conspiracies were scattered over the platforms, ready to be lured into a new intrigue and bound together for a common mission.

2. ‘’’Receptive base for the expanded Great Awakening project.’’’ Truthseekers only had bits and pieces of the complex puzzle but not big picture. Q proofs and verifications created “true believer” base which could then collectively be led to follow breadcrumbs using socratic method. We needed to be taught again how to “play the game”, ie think for ourselves logically and more importantly ACT upon our knowledge and beliefs to effect changes.

3. ‘’’Anonymity + plausible deniability for crumbs.’’’ Q has all but spelled this out MANY times. None of the hints given are classified. Everything we find is “fair game”. In the slower beginning phase Q was very obscure in clues, now in the accelerated phase they even drop direct links.

4. ‘’’Dissemination of discovered facts bypasses MSM.’’’ What we find in the public domain can be publicized via memes, tweets, video bloggers etc with impunity. We can create our own instantaneous news cycle and can disrupt the MSM cycle. Conversely, what topic we are directed to discover also CONTROLS MSM. Like clockwork they set up talking points for diversion and damage control. We are like a Q laser gun shining light on the selected target.

5. ‘’’Meme magic.’’’ Meme makers able get to the heart of the issue with few words. Powerful effective redpill process. The best method to soften up the other half of American to accept the truth as it comes out. A picture really is worth a 1000 words!

6. ‘‘’Tool to expose social media censorship.’’’ Our directed meme attacks have triggered Bad Actors to attempt censorship. Somehow this has allowed Q Team to inoculate some systems for better visibility.

7. ‘‘’Draw fire from Bad Actors.’’’ Attacks on the board expose threats, allow identification and neutralization of rogue Bad Actor elements. They also act to bond us together against a common enemy, engendering comradery.

8. ‘‘’Red Herrings can be put in play.’’’ Platform enables built in obfuscation tools. Anons “all over the place” with theories and interpretations, keeping Bad Actors further off balance. Shills contribute to the chaos and uncertainty factor.

9. ‘’’Threats/comms can be issued to Bad Actors.’’’ Since “all eyes” are on the 8chan board, this assures that threats will get noticed. Keeps “them” off balance, more prone to bad decisions and mistakes.

10. ‘’’Coded Comms can openly be given to Q Team Good Actors.’’’ Comms can trigger prestaged moves and counter moves. Comms help prove The Plan map as well. (I still feel they must have additional forms of communication however.)

11. ‘’’Microcosm view to gage readiness.’’’ Q Team monitors the board all the time. They guide us sometimes (more often than we know!). They control the pace and timing of the revelations. They see what the reactive trends are. Test Overton window effect. This may have been one purpose of the 5 minute Q&A for instance.

12. ‘’’Provide circular map to memorialize The Plan for posterity.’’’ Saved the best for last! We were given this map at the beginning we just did not know how to read. Now we are learning and verifying past “predictions” to current events. All are now being disseminated and archived multiple ways and places. Brilliant!
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As I have been lurking and observing I have ridden the waves of hope and despair along with all the other anons. A lot of transformation has occurred along the journey, and I have to wonder if some of it was unforeseen by the Q Team. If so, they have made astute adjustments to compensate.

I am trusting The Plan. Do we really have any other viable choice?”

I would urge caution on the

I would urge caution on the Qanon issue. "Q" relates to 17 clearance at the DOE, which I believe the hghest security detail clearance in the US reserved for the most trusted of parties at the highest levels of your administration in that area. As you can imagine this is a small club of people and it would be surprising if one of them should break ranks in this very public way given their tracibility. This is more likely to be a LARP - "live action real player", as some at 8chan would call it.

That being said, this is not a reason in and of itself to disregard the information that is forthcoming from that source as a good "LARP" will take an incredible amount of research to pull off to this extent. the issue with LARPs is that you never know quite what their endgame is until you are too far down the path to turn back with credibility retained. I followed it with grwat interest initially, which has wained as each promised filan corner turn has revealed another distant corner, behind which is apparently the "holy grail" of truth and justice. Think of the massive amount of predicted indictments that was shown. Okay there was an element of truth there, but where is the substance?

The proof of the pudding as always is in the eating, and the "Qanon" LARP has left many remaining hungry. Incredibly interesting to follow though. Be cautious though. This looks to me more like someone who is merely guessing a page ahead of us in the book, rather than someone who knows the end chapter.

sources

if plausible deniability is desired, it makes sense to mix true things with disinformation. Paradoxically it also makes more sense to discredit true and important things with false info. Folks here might remember WTC seismic data getting mixed with no plane at the Pentagon... Knowledgeable people will check each assertion. 4chan, 8chan, glp, ats, are well known venues.

Revelation of the method: http://911blogger.com/news/2013-05-16/hollywood-and-911-movies-and-tv-dramas-resembling-terrorist-attacks-were-being-produ...

What about inspection footage

What about inspection footage from inside the pentagon after the attack. Would you say that has to be "sourced" ?

yes

Although we would post it anyway if we could not source it (and was not obvious fake footage like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOQvMY0JlwA)

In the case of your pending un-sourced blog post, it's in the queue, and when I get the time I'll dig up the source myself and add it to your blog post and hit the post button. The footage is not new, I have seen the original files, and it's been posted here before. I believe the source is the same FOIA that the frames showing AA77 are from: http://911speakout.org/plane-at-the-pentagon-b/ Or you could find it yourself if you are impatient. Or you could just post the link here, but you seem to think it merits it's own blog, which is fine. It's been posted on 911b before I am sure (likely under loose nuke's blog), and when I dig out the file I'll check.

One can only wonder why random youtube accounts like to post stuff that they know the source for without actually mentioning what the source is... but we are not that lazy around here.

911datasets and 911encyclopedia keep getting hit with enough traffic to take them down, so I have more pressing things to deal with at the moment.

Bottom line, if you are going to post stuff without sources, don't get grumpy when we take longer than you like to approve it.

Grumpy? It's a compilation of

Grumpy? It's a compilation of several videos, and I only had one source to hand. It's from NIST's 911 vault on archive.com which in itself uses a variety of sources. It was entirely new to me. I would have liked to have seen what thoughts some of those with engineering backgrounds here who have looked at the pentagon issue closer than I have thought of it.

It's fine. I posted it elsewhere and some with the relevant research backgrounds gave me their take on it. It's clearly marked "inspection footage", NOTHING to do with video of a plane or anything. I am not going there. For all I care it could have been a jam doughnut that hit the pantagon and I would still be asking the same question. How did it get through ?

The difference with this footage and anything else I have seen is the detail it shows in the building, and in particular the internal columns and the exit hole toward the back of the outer ring.

There's also a conversation on it about a group that was having a meeting in the rooms directly above the area that was hit, who managed to get through a hallway to safety after the fact, which I personally find incredble given the extent of the structural damage to the building at the lower levels.

If I was being "grumpy", I'd tell you which outer ring to ram this now echo chamber up on no uncertain terms, and I'm sure you would notice. :)

The clip of the vifeo is here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49CC6plmtVo and the conversation I mentioned is around 11:25 or so.

vid

I could be wrong, but if my memory is correct that's how the video was provided in the FOIA. Your previous comment about echo chambers and us not approving blogs was similar: http://911blogger.com/news/2018-03-29/lawsuit-against-saudi-arabia-can-go-forward#comment-265023 but that's fine. I'll try to be more polite, maybe you will too.

You get what you give. The

You get what you give. The echo chamber thing is a serious critisism, it's not a dig for the sake of it.
No less valid today than it was prevously.

Then make it

Just saying it is not a serious anything. Echo chamber implies viewpoints not represented. Right? If so, which ones specifically are you referring to?

http://911blogger.com/faq#story

Hubiris