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NIST Engineer, John Gross, Denies Reports About Molten Steel at the WTC

From http://pnacitizens.org/

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7180303712325092501&hl=en

WMV | MP4 Versions available at http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=195

John Gross, one of the lead engineers of the NIST report is questioned about the existence of molten steel at the WTC, the collapse of Building 7, and also explains how the NIST report did not do any analysis of the collapse of all three buildings.

John Gross was asked to come speak at the University of Texas at Austin by the Phil. M. Ferguson fund ( Link to their website, http://www.utexas.edu/research/fsel/people/index.html ).

UT student organization, A Project for the New American Citizen was there to ask and film his response to the questions. please get in contact with this department at UT and tell them you want a public debate of these issues with a Project for the New American Citizen. We need to put as much pressure on these people as we can. Our website is PNACitizens.org

thanks for your help

http://pnacitizens.org/

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Sweet!

Thanks, dz..

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"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!"
-Dan Wallace

Molten Steel

Is the most devastating proof of an inside job along with free fall speed of collapse. You can't break the laws of physics.

1. There is lots of testimony of molten steel by eye-witnesses

 

2.  It was analyzed in the FEMA report!! Therefore it exists!

 

3. NIST completely ignored it and called it "irrelevant to their investigation" as if the structural support of a building is somehow "irrelevant".

4. Normal fires (i.e. jet fuel) fires are incapable of melting steel

5. ONLY a thermate/thermite reaction can explain molten metal for WEEKS after 9/11. Explosives can also melt steel.

6. Steven Jones found thermate.

7. Dust Samples independently analyzed confirm the explosives hypothesis.

Building designer Les Robertson claimed to have seen the molten steel 21 days after the buildings fell to the ground. Later in an interview with Steven Jones he claimed he didn’t know of anyone who saw molten steel! Guess what—he supports the NIST report and also claims that they didn’t consider jet fuel (a lie) and that they also didn’t consider planes moving faster than 180 mph (another lie). These people are lying and we know it. We can hold them accountable for their lies.

The only question is: Given this devastating evidence that we can use to force another 9/11 investigation, why are certain individuals focusing on un-testable theories. Why are they downplaying thermate when it PROVES an inside job.

“We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality."

Digg that mutha!

Holy crap, I must say that that is one of the most concise, damning, brilliant and irrefutable 911 Truth Videos that I have ever seen.

He's clearly trapped in a lie... and he's the lead scientist on the project?

You'd think the thousands of pages of the NIST report they could have at least acknowledged what is "clear from the video" (molten metal/eyewitnesses).

Mr. Gross

seemed a little uncomfortable talking about the molten steel.

Perhaps he's a bad lier?

Still no comment on WTC 7?

I wonder if he understands what his personal liability will be when the truth becomes widely accepted and the 9/11 trials begin.

Great short video, btw.

Thanks!

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

Be well.

Fellow researcher NK-44

did a wonderful job on the molten metal

Molten metal- debunked!!

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1324&hl=

unbelievable

Where do you find this stuff, stallion4? Keep posting it!

People ask how could so many scientists look at the collapses and not realize explosives were involved. Well, here's one of those scientists lying his frickin ass off.

I found it posted on Jack Blood's message board.

http://www.jackbloodforum.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=64362#64362

Good source for info.

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"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!"
-Dan Wallace

These PNACitizens are Rock Stars....

....the same group (along with Alex Jones' crew) that confronted little Billy Kristol last fall at UT.

I doff my chapeau....nicely played....

If you haven't seen the

If you haven't seen the confrontation with Kristol, check+it+out.

word

What a disgusting liar. Great job editing!

Fighting for G.O.D. (Gold, Oil, and Drugs) is available now for pre-order on Amazon.

This is very damning I

This is very damning I think.

He's very boldly lying

when he says there wasn't molten steel. He's contradicted by video, audio, and photographic evidence. 

Question is, what are we going to do about it ? 

Reality got you down? Read the La Rochelle Times: http://www.rochelletimes.blogspot.com

aside from that, he never

aside from that, he never saw the NASA thermal images? i thought this was an investigation where you would look at such evidence?

bah.

Yea I did to, great

Yea I did to, great investigation they carried out, so thorough, like a new one is even needed, what a dumb idea that would be....

FACILITATING CRIMINALS!!

How does this clown live

How does this clown live with himself, he's either lying through his teeth or a complete dupe.

Stallion

That was AWESOME!....This guy screamed liar! The video was exceptional! My only wish was to have a big screen tv there to show the clips that were inserted as to the extreme heat ,and molten steel.Just to catch his responce,or at the very least his facial expressions.
His responce to the question were you there? Did you see it ,made me want to puke!
DAMN ! I would have love to been there,showing the video clips of the fireman,salvage workers,EMT,and thermal SAT photo's.Then after watching him sweat say.........You did an official
investagation,and you did'nt see any of this????!!!!
Thank you Stallion for submitting this!
It made my weekend.

Glad to hear that. Please share this video with others too.

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"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!"
-Dan Wallace

Body language

says it all. Hands to the face, mock emphasis etc.

Squirming like a worm on a hook.

Sickening.

Hey DZ

This really needs to be archived on the 9/11 video page.

DZ

....My cpu is damn fast ,but i find when i am at this site it wants to move so slow? This was actually an edit to a double post.

There have been hacking

There have been hacking problems in the past. Could still be.

Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.

Here's

an idea.We need to get this guy on tape again, showing him this video.I would pay twenty bucks to watch his reaction.Then when the video is done say.
I only have one question.How much is selling your country out going for these days?
Damn Stallion i had to watch this a few times it was that good.

Gross' contact info

Might be nice to drop him a note and underline his perjury and being accessory to murder.

 

 

John L. Gross (301) 975-6068


John.gross@nist.gov


100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8611, Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8611

 

Reality got you down? Read the La Rochelle Times: http://www.rochelletimes.blogspot.com

Monsieur

Better yet .....Send him the video clip with a note:
BUSTED!

email to gross

just sent off the following note to gross. that evil little pantomime really got my goat. some people will say that such invective is counterproductive. i'm not so sure. if somebody felt compelled to vent such spleen in my direction, i know that underneath all the indignation i'd feel would be an irresistable compulsion to examine my conscience. though of course its a good question whether anyone who can lie through their teeth like that in a public forum has any sort of conscience to appeal to. anyhow, for better or worse, i expressed my anger. this is an accomplice to the murder of the world into which i brought my precious daughter. i don't think what i feel is exaggerated...

hey john, what dog's arsehole did you drop out of, mate? you pathetic little underling, you lapdog to your corporo-fascist daddies, you fawning bureaucrat, you scary little Eichmann. you must feel really secure in the protection of your masters, or perhaps just addicted to their empty flattery and their petty indulgences, to lie with such an obvious, condescending sense of impunity before hundreds of thousands of people who know you're lying (or who can prove it to themselves with a few simple clicks of their mouse). you shouldn't feel so secure. even if we never manage to convince the world of the pure evil of the masters of war who pull your little strings, your character is rotten to the core, buddy. you have no authenticity, no integrity. if not already, then in the end, you'll reap what you sow.

e-mail excerpt

I recently saw footage of a talk you gave at the University of Texas at Austin, where you
were asked about molten steel at Ground Zero.

You responded by denying the existence of such steel, even though countless examples can
be seen on video archives. Audio and written testimonies also support the molten metal
samples, and it was analyzed in the initial FEMA report. Your denial is contradicted by
hard evidence.

Therefore, your denial constitutes perjury and obstruction of a proper investigation into
the collapses of the World Trade Center buildings. As a researcher familiar with these
issues, I can only surmise that your denial was due to the fact that molten metal is
prima facie proof of the use of explosives, most likely thermate.

As such, I, as well as my colleagues, have moved to archive your comments and forward
them to international investigative authorities in the European Union, as future criminal
evidence to the continuing cover up by NIST about the collapse of the WTC.

I would hope that your findings would reflect the nature of the scientific data that has
been gathered and analyzed at Ground Zero. Independent scientists around the world who
have studied the information have widely concluded that controlled demolition, not office
fires, brought the towers down. This is also the case with WTC 7. I can provide links
should you doubt the certitude of this claim.

Please know that steps are being taken internationally to hold American officials
accountable for the cover up of these atrocities, and that your complicity may result in
criminal charges being filed against you, including perjury, obstruction of justice and
accesory to murder.

I would hope that your scientific analysis would take all relevant data into account
before reaching a conclusion, and that past omissions by FEMA or NIST will in the future
be rectified.

Monsieur

.......EXCELLENT !

well done!

It was a joy to read this e-mail excerpt, after seeing the video above. What an obvious lier this guy is. And what an oportunity to expose NIST ...

woh

that's just superb. see now, if i was a less impulsive person, if i'd just waited for my anger to abate, i might have managed something like that. nice one prof. only caveat is the important one mentioned by ahey below. if you confront people like this about molten STEEL at the wtc sites, and if what Jones has argued about thermite/thermate being used is true (so that the pools of molten material were predominantly IRON), then technically when they say there were no pools of molten steel at the site they'll be saying something true, even if they KNOW that the buildings' destruction was precipitated by thermite or thermate reactions.

It's not perjury. Perjury

It's not perjury. Perjury is lying or making verifiably false statements under oath in a court of law. He wasn't sworn in.

If the US is ever invaded and deNazified Gross might face charges in something equivalent to the Nuremberg Trials, however.

IRON not STEEL

It's a bit troubling that everyone keeps saying "molten steel"
the interviewers in this video confront NIST on it...
Kevin Barrett and Jason Bermas of LC both have used the term "molten steel" in radio appearancel...

While it's correct to use the term "molten metal", Molten Steel is incorrect.

Even Steven Jones confirmed that testing the (once) molten metal samples that they contain "very little chromium" ie: structural steel.

The molten metal is in fact MOLTEN IRON, being compromised of "mostly iron"...one of the byproducts of a thermite type reaction...this is Jones' findings (and others)

This is what is described running down the I-beams, collecting in pools in the sub basements of the towers, and cascading down the south tower minutes before it's demise.

It's very important point to be clear on.

The existence of this molten iron thus leads to the direct evidence of preplanted thermite type materials- made up of iron oxide powder and aluminum powder.....
the thermite reaction's byproducts then become: aluminium oxide (cloud/smoke) and molten iron ( our smoking gun molten metal).

The better you know the evidence, the better you can make your case.

"Molten metal"

This is an interesting issue and has been discussed here before. I agree that the best term to use is probably "molten metal." However, in the use of "molten steel," one thing you are seeing is the desire of researchers to defer to the terminology of eye witnesses such as the firefighters in that scene, one of whom calls it "molten steel."

Moreover, I think the best case is made by always using testimony about molten metal in conjunction with observations about temperature, especially the NASA thermal imagery. The guys in this video did this, too. It's kind of a two-pronged rhetorical strategy. Use "metal" and you don't get into fights with some of the f***tards who will get permanently (and purposefully) hung up on whether it was indeed steel. (By which I mean certain trolls -- hot you, ahey.) Use temperature, and the issue of whether it was steel and whether it was molten versus red hot in any particular photo, is rendered secondary. No plausible theory has been offered to explain the persistent, extremely high temperatures of the rubble pile other than an on-going chemical (thermite/thermate) reaction.

I would pay money to see the expert's reaction to this extremely well-done video.

Question?

What verdict do you think a jury would decide on?

wow is he defensive. his

wow is he defensive. his reaction speaks volumes. very snippy and condescending. i wonder why he would be like that? hmmmm...........

You could go ask...

Any first responder that worked on the pile how many boots they went through because they were melting within hours.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

The following...

Conversation just took place through Instant Messaging.

Gold9472: question
John Feal: hello
Gold9472: about Ground Zero
Gold9472: hi
John Feal: go
John Feal: hit me
Gold9472: Could you get me some quotes of individuals who's boots were melted?
Gold9472: You know what i'm talking about?
John Feal: i went through three pairs in 5 days
Gold9472: what was that
Gold9472: the molten steel?
John Feal: boots
John Feal: yes from hot steel it melted my boot soles
Gold9472: do you mind if I post this little corresopndence?
John Feal: no not at all,after going through 3 pairs of boots i went and got a free pair at the salvation army tent and then that day got hurt
Gold9472: do you know anyone else with boot trouble?
John Feal: no but i will ask about 30 people in an email
Gold9472: cool
Gold9472: thanks.

If he gets any responses, I'll post them.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Cool

I would be especially interested if he could find out from other people how long the heat lasted. When were their boots no longer melting, for instance?

The following...

Conversation just took place through Instant Messaging.

Gold9472: Do you know how long it was hot down there?
Gold9472: how long after 9/11
John Feal: weeks dude
John Feal: everytime the fire dep shot water on the pile the water would burn us from bouncing off steel
Gold9472: ouch
John Feal: yes little burn dots.hurt like a bitch
John Feal: that is why i was so covered and layered on cloths
John Feal: look at my picture,two sweat shirts and a jacket
Gold9472: How many weeks would you say?
Gold9472: ya
Gold9472: I see

John Feal: people said the fire burned for 3,4,5,6 weeks in different spots
Gold9472: wow
John Feal: imagine pulling steel from the pile and torching smoldering steel
John Feal: the wind sheilds from the machines melted
John Feal: payloaders,cherry pickers,all the big tonka toys
guys were in their shorts those cabs where so hot
Gold9472: wow
Gold9472: Thanks man.
John Feal: use it, it is documented


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

The following...

Conversation just took place through Instant Messaging...

Gold9472: Hey Mike...
Gold9472: Quick question...
Mike McCormack: whats up
Mike McCormack: go
Gold9472: Tell me about your boots down at Ground Zero.
Mike McCormack: which pair I melted 3
Gold9472: In how many days?
Mike McCormack: 8
Gold9472: That was from the molten steel?
Mike McCormack: thats from transference of heat through the hot steel not molten
Gold9472: It wasn't "flowing"
Mike McCormack: down in the basement it was but nobody got down there for about 2 weeks
Gold9472: Some have described it as "pools of molten metal"
Gold9472: How long would you say the steel was hot?
Mike McCormack: yeah it was molten down below. the temperature down there was 1100 degrees for over 6 months
Gold9472: over 6 months?
Mike McCormack: they had hot sots for over 6
Gold9472: hot sots?
Mike McCormack: hot spots
Gold9472: ah
Gold9472: Do you mind if I post this little correspondence?
Mike McCormack: i dont care
Gold9472: Cool. Thanks Mike.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5960554325625810328


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

Thanks, Jon

That's exactly the kind of thing I was thinking of. You da man.

Remember this...

Next time someone argues with me about promoting Controlled Demolition.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

i dont think the gripe is

i dont think the gripe is that you DONT promote controlled demolition, its probably that you sometimes take shots at people who strongly do. i dont know....

Before or after...

Someone takes a shot at me?


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

as someone who frequents

as someone who frequents this site very much, daily really, i would say usually the former but not always of course.

I...

Would disagree.


"So where is the oil going to come from?... The Middle East, with two-thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies."

Richard Cheney - Chief Executive Of Halliburton

So let me get this straight...

....The High Perps' OV is that jet fuel burned just perfectly hot enough to "weaken" steel columns and cause a "pancake collapse" (can I see another animated drawing of that, please? I do enjoy them),.....but not nearly hot enough to cause pools of molten metal (for which there is a myriad of documented evidence).

Those "Lucky" terrorists kind of hit the Sweet Spot of temperature control, didn't they?....it's amazing what you can come up with out an Afghanistan cave.... (sarcasm).

The guys hired to sell this shit are real pieces of work....

9/11 = TREASON

transcript 3:15 - 3:20

Could please someone post transcript from this video from 3:15 to 3:20. No matter how hard I try, I can't get it. I'm making translation and want to be exact. Thanks.

3:15 to 3:20

"Um, we are looking at it. There's actually a very good write-up recently from a controlled demolition expert that you really ought to read."

Is that what you're looking for?

Yes

This is exactly it. Thank you.

DR. GROSS, HAVE YOU NO SHAME?

Regarding your videotaped statements that there was no molten metal at the World Trade Center site:

1. You are a Public Servant. Your allegiance is to the PEOPLE of the United States, whose taxes pay your salary.

2. You are doing yourself a disservice by succumbing to pressure from your superiors, who no doubt are succumbing to pressure from officials above them. There are very strong laws to protect whistleblowers. The sooner you step forward to expose the circumstances under which your investigation was compromised, the easier it will be to avoid prosecution for major crimes when they are finally investigated and proven.

3. Your credentials are impressive, and you have worked hard to earn your reputation:
http://www2.bfrl.nist.gov/profiles/profiles.asp?lastname=gross
Please have the courage to do the right thing and become a hero for the truth.

Sincerely,
A Very Concerned Citizen, one of 300 Million

above was emailed to john.gross@nist.gov

I bet his mailbox will be very full when he comes in on Monday.

Love

I love to watch these fools twitch when they get an educated and researched question about their indiscretions.

Twitch Bitch!

You sure did do everything you were required to do in your investigations.

Get in line for the Guillotine!!
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Ignorance is NOT Bliss

So

like was asked in a previous post. This video say's it all.
What are we going to do with it?
This should be fowarded to the loose change boys.I think it would be a nice addition to the final cut.

Dylan has it

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=3602

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"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!"
-Dan Wallace

Dylan, if you're reading this

Please incorporate something like the Gross video (or maybe that exact video) in Final Cut. It's a good illustration of: (a) how many of the individuals attacking Steven Jones for the hypothesis he is studying are lying when they characterize his premise as suspect; and (b) how the argument that "NIST would never lie" is untrue, whether or not Gross knows he is lying (I suspect he does, because the molten metal continuing to burn for several months after 9/11 was a very visible 9/11 story in the mass media).

Score one for the Internet!

Dylan and Jason were enthusiastically talking about...

...receiving this gem from the PNACitizens on Bermas' radio show yesterday (before it was even posted here, I believe)....they were digging it...

That's the beautiful thing about LCFC: I'm sure everybody is inundating these guys with new info....hope they have a good editor....

9/11 = TREASON

I heard David Ray Griffin is

I heard David Ray Griffin is serving as script editor.

The time has come. 9/11 will be exposed by AT LEAST the end of 2008.

Come clean now before it's too late

My letter to Mr. Gross cc'd to michael.newman@nist.gov; wtc@nist.gov

Mr. Gross -  

re: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7180303712325092501&hl=en 

How could you deny the existence of molten metal?  There were hundreds of eyewitnesses – rescue workers, firemen, cops.  There are video tapes.  There are NASA thermal photographs. 

Yes, the video evidence on why the towers came down was very clear but does not jibe with your explanation.  Yes, the evidence was very clear, there were huge explosions everywhere.  Ask the cops, ask the EMTs, ask the firefighters…the ones that survived that is.  But you better hurry; because many of the surviving rescue workers will be dead soon from the toxic substances they were exposed to while you were busy trying to figure out how to cover-up the crime to end all crimes. 

Look at the tapes yourself and tell me that was a pancake collapse caused only by steel frames weakened by fire.  What about the center column structure of towers 1 & 2? Your pancake theory doesn’t account for that.  Jet fuel doesn’t burn anywhere near hot enough to melt steel anyway.  It’s all BS and doesn’t hold up to any scientific scrutiny. 

The eyewitness testimony is very clear, so are the videos – explosions – clear as day.  What part of this don’t you get?  What jettisoned huge chunks of steel I-beams across the street into adjacent buildings?  The purely downward force of a pancake collapse?  You say you’re a structural engineer?  Where did you say you got your degree? 

What about building 7?  A classic example of controlled demolition.  Anybody can see that.  Any impartial judge in a court of law would see it that way, too.

Did they threaten you or pay you to stand by that pathetic explanation?  Who were they? 

The truth is out but it hasn’t hit the mainstream media just yet.  Now is the time for you to come clean.  You can be a hero whistle blower or you can be an accomplice to mass murder.  Your choice.

He is Gross indeed

My A#$ this Gross guy hasn't seen the NASA thermal pics over Ground Zero taken weeks after!!! He HAD to have seen those pics, there's no two ways about it!
Those thermal pics were spread throughout the media and internet months after 9/11 for all to see!!!!

AAARRRGGGHHH !!!!!

"trapped in a lie"

I want to second that. He clearly has the flippant attitude with his responses about the testimony of reported pools of metal and the denial that NASA images show thermal-high temperatures on the ground.

This is a video to share and post on your weblogs to expose the hostility NIST and the official story tellers of 9/11 have toward grounded scientific inquiry.

Expose them for what they are: LIARS!

Peace.

Ipod, portable DVD, laptop....

Every info warrior must carry a potable video device for these situations. When the criminal says they haven't seen it, press play.

This was awesome!

Mr. Gross...

You are SO busted.

Another score for the PNACitizens! Good job guys.

Witnesses See Molten Metal in the Remains at Ground Zero

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a091201moltenmetal

September 12, 2001-February 2002: Witnesses See Molten Metal in the Remains at Ground Zero

A chunk of hot metal being removed from the North Tower rubble about eight weeks after 9/11. [Source: Frank Silecchia]In the weeks and months after 9/11, numerous individuals report seeing molten metal in the remains of the World Trade Center:
Ken Holden, who is involved with the organizing of demolition, excavation and debris removal operations at Ground Zero, later will tell the 9/11 Commission, “Underground, it was still so hot that molten metal dripped down the sides of the wall from [WTC] Building 6.” [9/11 Commission, 4/1/2003]
William Langewiesche, the only journalist to have unrestricted access to Ground Zero during the cleanup operation, describes, “in the early days, the streams of molten metal that leaked from the hot cores and flowed down broken walls inside the foundation hole.” [Langewiesche, 2002, pp. 32]
Leslie Robertson, the structural engineer responsible for the design of the WTC, describes fires still burning and molten steel still running 21 days after the attacks. [SEAU News, 10/2001 ]
Alison Geyh, who heads a team of scientists studying the potential health effects of 9/11, reports, “Fires are still actively burning and the smoke is very intense. In some pockets now being uncovered, they are finding molten steel.” [Johns Hopkins Public Health Magazine, 2001]
Ron Burger, a public health advisor who arrives at Ground Zero on September 12, says that “feeling the heat” and “seeing the molten steel” there reminds him of a volcano. [National Environmental Health Association, 9/2003, pp. 40 ]
According to a member of New York Air National Guard’s 109th Air Wing, who is at Ground Zero from September 22 to October 6, “One fireman told us that there was still molten steel at the heart of the towers’ remains. Firemen sprayed water to cool the debris down but the heat remained intense enough at the surface to melt their boots.” [National Guard Magazine, 12/2001]
New York firefighters recall “heat so intense they encountered rivers of molten steel.” [New York Post, 3/3/2004]
As late as five months after the attacks, in February 2002, firefighter Joe O’Toole sees a steel beam being lifted from deep underground at Ground Zero, which, he says, “was dripping from the molten steel.” [Knight Ridder, 5/29/2002] Steven E. Jones, a physics professor from Utah, later will claim this molten metal is “direct evidence for the use of high-temperature explosives, such as thermite,” used to deliberately bring down the WTC towers. [MSNBC, 11/16/2005] He will say that without explosives, a falling building would have “insufficient directed energy to result in melting of large quantities of metal.” [Deseret Morning News, 11/10/2005] There is no mention whatsoever of the molten metal in the official reports by FEMA, NIST, or the 9/11 Commission. [Federal Emergency Management Agency, 5/1/2002; 9/11 Commission, 7/24/2004; National Institute of Standards and Technology, 9/2005 ] But Dr. Frank Gayle, who leads the steel forensics aspects of NIST’s investigation of the WTC collapses, is quoted as saying, “Your gut reaction would be the jet fuel is what made the fire so very intense, a lot of people figured that’s what melted the steel. Indeed it didn’t, the steel did not melt.” [ABC News 7 (New York), 2/7/2004] As well as the reports of molten metal, data collected by NASA in the days after 9/11 finds dozens of “hot spots” (some over 1300 degrees) at Ground Zero (see September 16-23, 2001).
Entity Tags: Ken Holden, William Langewiesche, Leslie Robertson, Frank Gayle, Steven E. Jones, Joe O'Toole, Ron Burger, Alison Geyh, World Trade Center
Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a091201moltenmetal

More important how many 911 DVD's are you gonna hand out this ye

How many 9-11 DVD's (such as DRG Lecture 911 Myth and Reality , 911 Mysteries, LC 2nd ed and such ) did we "all" pass out yesterday or the day before that and the week before that and the month before - the year before etc.

More important how many 911 DVD's are you gonna hand out this year?

Sorry

since i've watched this ,and read the comments one thing hit me.
This guy,who is lieing through his teeth,with no fear of being video taped doing it.Is basically saying F**K
you.
His lack of fear saying what he did seems to me this guy might have even said .......Hey ! We all know 9/11 was an inside job,and theres nothing you can do about it.
AND THAT PISSES ME OFF! This is one thing that needs attention & pressure.

Exactly!

This NIST Gross guy is basically telling Americans, "You're all a bunch of fucking idiots and we own you biatches!"..."Hahaha"...
It's like a fairy tale from the medieval ages, total twilight zone shit right in your face!

Watched this again...

This man's 'smarminess' (is that a word?) REALLY comes out in the last 20 seconds or so of this video...when he does a bunch of hand-waving about the conditions after 'collapse initiation' , pays lip service to 'scientific proving' , points to video evidence (hahahaha!!!), displays MAJOR 'liar' body language and declares the whole affair closed.

I really hope this man has a very uncomforatble monday when he checks his email.

He should be squirming BIG time. He's a lying traitor.....and he KNOWS it.

Again, my hat is tipped to the PNACitizens from UT. You guys inspire me. Truly.

"Proof" ???

It's obvious SOMEONE photoshop'd those images, BUT what proof do you have that it was Dr. Steven Jones who did it?

I remember those NASA thermal pics being dated weeks and months after 9/11 back when I first saw them in 2002, NOT the dates SOMEONE has pasted on them in your argument page.
???

after the truth is established

Im kinda new here, and Have been closley watching the OKC bombing cover up being un covered.- which will help un cover 9/11
I believe.
of course I already believe 9/11 has been UN covered.
but, here is my question for any and all,.
when the truth is fully out , on the table for all to see,.
inside job,
names and the works,..
the government beast will do all to save it self,.
I think they will fight, martial law the works.
so, what I am trying to say/ ask?
AFTER the un covering.the exposing of all this.
what will happen
what?
what can we expect.
an aplogy
more cover ups
shut down of internet
this time is coming,
soon,........

I need a high res version of the interview

and the makers the kindness to gave me permission to use it for an upcoming german documentary. Can someone help me out? The link above to 911podcast is gone...

Contact Justin Keogh

he'll put you in touch with Nate.

http://911blogger.com/contact