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NIST Engineer, John Gross, Denies Reports About Molten Steel at the WTC
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7180303712325092501&hl=en
WMV | MP4 Versions available at http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=195
John Gross, one of the lead engineers of the NIST report is questioned about the existence of molten steel at the WTC, the collapse of Building 7, and also explains how the NIST report did not do any analysis of the collapse of all three buildings.
John Gross was asked to come speak at the University of Texas at Austin by the Phil. M. Ferguson fund ( Link to their website, http://www.utexas.edu/research/fsel/people/index.html ).
UT student organization, A Project for the New American Citizen was there to ask and film his response to the questions. please get in contact with this department at UT and tell them you want a public debate of these issues with a Project for the New American Citizen. We need to put as much pressure on these people as we can. Our website is PNACitizens.org
thanks for your help
Thanks, sleepy2k23
If possible, will a 911blogger staff member please add the digg.com link to the story , because I haven't figured out how to add the fancy "Digg it" counter to my blog entries yet.
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sure, gotcha covered.. if
sure, gotcha covered..
if you edit your post (but dont save it!) you can see the code.. it is a div tag with float left, and an iframe which contains a link followed by the link to the dig page followed by /blog
best wishes!
Molten Steel
Is the most devastating proof of an inside job along with free fall speed of collapse. You can't break the laws of physics.
1. There is lots of testimony of molten steel by eye-witnesses
2. It was analyzed in the FEMA report!! Therefore it exists!
3. NIST completely ignored it and called it "irrelevant to their investigation" as if the structural support of a building is somehow "irrelevant".
4. Normal fires (i.e. jet fuel) fires are incapable of melting steel
5. ONLY a thermate/thermite reaction can explain molten metal for WEEKS after 9/11. Explosives can also melt steel.
6. Steven Jones found thermate.
7. Dust Samples independently analyzed confirm the explosives hypothesis.
Building designer Les Robertson claimed to have seen the molten steel 21 days after the buildings fell to the ground. Later in an interview with Steven Jones he claimed he didn’t know of anyone who saw molten steel! Guess what—he supports the NIST report and also claims that they didn’t consider jet fuel (a lie) and that they also didn’t consider planes moving faster than 180 mph (another lie). These people are lying and we know it. We can hold them accountable for their lies.
The only question is: Given this devastating evidence that we can use to force another 9/11 investigation, why are certain individuals focusing on un-testable theories. Why are they downplaying thermate when it PROVES an inside job.
“We're an empire now, and when we act we create our own reality."
Digg that mutha!
Holy crap, I must say that that is one of the most concise, damning, brilliant and irrefutable 911 Truth Videos that I have ever seen.
He's clearly trapped in a lie... and he's the lead scientist on the project?
You'd think the thousands of pages of the NIST report they could have at least acknowledged what is "clear from the video" (molten metal/eyewitnesses).
Mr. Gross
seemed a little uncomfortable talking about the molten steel.
Perhaps he's a bad lier?
Still no comment on WTC 7?
I wonder if he understands what his personal liability will be when the truth becomes widely accepted and the 9/11 trials begin.
Great short video, btw.
Thanks!
The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.
Be well.
Fellow researcher NK-44
did a wonderful job on the molten metal
Molten metal- debunked!!
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1324&...
unbelievable
Where do you find this stuff, stallion4? Keep posting it!
People ask how could so many scientists look at the collapses and not realize explosives were involved. Well, here's one of those scientists lying his frickin ass off.
I found it posted on Jack Blood's message board.
http://www.jackbloodforum.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=64362#64362
Good source for info.
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"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!" -Dan Wallace
These PNACitizens are Rock Stars....
....the same group (along with Alex Jones' crew) that confronted little Billy Kristol last fall at UT.
I doff my chapeau....nicely played....
If you haven't seen the
If you haven't seen the confrontation with Kristol, check it out.
word
What a disgusting liar. Great job editing!
Fighting for G.O.D. (Gold, Oil, and Drugs) is available now for pre-order on Amazon.
This is very damning I
This is very damning I think.
He's very boldly lying
when he says there wasn't molten steel. He's contradicted by video, audio, and photographic evidence.
Question is, what are we going to do about it ?
Reality got you down? Read the La Rochelle Times: http://www.rochelletimes.blogspot.com
aside from that, he never
aside from that, he never saw the NASA thermal images? i thought this was an investigation where you would look at such evidence?
bah.
Yea I did to, great
Yea I did to, great investigation they carried out, so thorough, like a new one is even needed, what a dumb idea that would be....
FACILITATING CRIMINALS!!
How does this clown live
How does this clown live with himself, he's either lying through his teeth or a complete dupe.
Stallion
That was AWESOME!....This guy screamed liar! The video was exceptional! My only wish was to have a big screen tv there to show the clips that were inserted as to the extreme heat ,and molten steel.Just to catch his responce,or at the very least his facial expressions.
His responce to the question were you there? Did you see it ,made me want to puke!
DAMN ! I would have love to been there,showing the video clips of the fireman,salvage workers,EMT,and thermal SAT photo's.Then after watching him sweat say.........You did an official
investagation,and you did'nt see any of this????!!!!
Thank you Stallion for submitting this!
It made my weekend.
Glad to hear that. Please share this video with others too.
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"We are going to keep up this fight till the end, till the very end... They took it from the top to the bottom. We're gonna take it from the bottom to the top!" -Dan Wallace
Body language
says it all. Hands to the face, mock emphasis etc.
Squirming like a worm on a hook.
Sickening.
Hey DZ
This really needs to be archived on the 9/11 video page.
DZ
....My cpu is damn fast ,but i find when i am at this site it wants to move so slow? This was actually an edit to a double post.
There have been hacking
There have been hacking problems in the past. Could still be.
Impeachment. Accountability. A better world.
Here's
an idea.We need to get this guy on tape again, showing him this video.I would pay twenty bucks to watch his reaction.Then when the video is done say.
I only have one question.How much is selling your country out going for these days?
Damn Stallion i had to watch this a few times it was that good.
Gross' contact info
Might be nice to drop him a note and underline his perjury and being accessory to murder.
John L. Gross (301) 975-6068
100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8611, Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8611
Reality got you down? Read the La Rochelle Times: http://www.rochelletimes.blogspot.com
email to gross
just sent off the following note to gross. that evil little pantomime really got my goat. some people will say that such invective is counterproductive. i'm not so sure. if somebody felt compelled to vent such spleen in my direction, i know that underneath all the indignation i'd feel would be an irresistable compulsion to examine my conscience. though of course its a good question whether anyone who can lie through their teeth like that in a public forum has any sort of conscience to appeal to. anyhow, for better or worse, i expressed my anger. this is an accomplice to the murder of the world into which i brought my precious daughter. i don't think what i feel is exaggerated...
hey john, what dog's arsehole did you drop out of, mate? you pathetic little underling, you lapdog to your corporo-fascist daddies, you fawning bureaucrat, you scary little Eichmann. you must feel really secure in the protection of your masters, or perhaps just addicted to their empty flattery and their petty indulgences, to lie with such an obvious, condescending sense of impunity before hundreds of thousands of people who know you're lying (or who can prove it to themselves with a few simple clicks of their mouse). you shouldn't feel so secure. even if we never manage to convince the world of the pure evil of the masters of war who pull your little strings, your character is rotten to the core, buddy. you have no authenticity, no integrity. if not already, then in the end, you'll reap what you sow.
e-mail excerpt
I recently saw footage of a talk you gave at the University of Texas at Austin, where you
were asked about molten steel at Ground Zero.
You responded by denying the existence of such steel, even though countless examples can
be seen on video archives. Audio and written testimonies also support the molten metal
samples, and it was analyzed in the initial FEMA report. Your denial is contradicted by
hard evidence.
Therefore, your denial constitutes perjury and obstruction of a proper investigation into
the collapses of the World Trade Center buildings. As a researcher familiar with these
issues, I can only surmise that your denial was due to the fact that molten metal is
prima facie proof of the use of explosives, most likely thermate.
As such, I, as well as my colleagues, have moved to archive your comments and forward
them to international investigative authorities in the European Union, as future criminal
evidence to the continuing cover up by NIST about the collapse of the WTC.
I would hope that your findings would reflect the nature of the scientific data that has
been gathered and analyzed at Ground Zero. Independent scientists around the world who
have studied the information have widely concluded that controlled demolition, not office
fires, brought the towers down. This is also the case with WTC 7. I can provide links
should you doubt the certitude of this claim.
Please know that steps are being taken internationally to hold American officials
accountable for the cover up of these atrocities, and that your complicity may result in
criminal charges being filed against you, including perjury, obstruction of justice and
accesory to murder.
I would hope that your scientific analysis would take all relevant data into account
before reaching a conclusion, and that past omissions by FEMA or NIST will in the future
be rectified.













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