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This is an explosion…
There are no intact floors above the advancing collapse line. The concrete and debris are immediately pulverized and ejected sideways along with other parts of the structure including heavy beams that go on to destroy neighboring buildings.
There is no ‘pile-driver’ effect as is evidenced by this photo and further confirmed by the arrested angular momentum of the upper floors in the south tower.
The collapse proceeds through the strongest part of the building, the center structural core, at nearly free-fall acceleration. As you might suspect, this can only mean the center structural support was taken out prior to this collapse.
I can’t think of any way this could happen without an internal detonation, perhaps carefully timed to be masked by the crash of the plane.
There is no reason for what we see here and what we witnessed in the next 15 seconds. None is given. NIST gave up. Maybe you can fill us in :).
General Wesley Clark March 2, 2007, Democracy Now...
About ten days after 9/11 I went thru the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and deputy secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the joint staff who used to work for me and one of the generals called me in he said, 'Sir, you gotta, come in, you gotta come in and talk to me a second.' I said, "Well, you're too busy". He said, "No, no." He says, "We've made the decision. We're going to war with Iraq." This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, "We're going to war with Iraq? Why?" He said, "I don't know." He said, "I guess they don't know what else to do."
So, I said, "Well did they find some information collect.. connecting Saddam to al queda?" He said, "No, no." He says, "There's nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq." He said, "I guess it's like, we don't know what to do about terrorists but we got a good military and we can take down governments and uh.." He said, "I guess if the only tool have is a hammer every problem has to look like a nail."
From the article:
Capturing bin Laden 'would unleash hell' ... The mastermind of the 9/11 attacks warned. Also on that al-Qaeda has hidden a nuclear bomb in Europe which will unleash a "nuclear hellstorm" if Osama bin Laden is captured, leaked files revealed. The terror group also planned to make a 9/11 style attack on London's Heathrow airport by crashing a hijacked airliner into one of the terminals, the files showed. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed told Guantanamo Bay interrogators the terror group would detonate the nuclear device if the al-Qaeda chief was captured or killed, according to the classified files released by the WikiLeaks website. – MSN.com
Dominant Social Theme: We got this son-of-a-gun. Hooray. Now we need to watch out for pocket nuke retaliation.
Problem: winning 5 yards at the end of the game when we're down 20 points.
It's not going to help. We can all imagine the closing window here of effectiveness. It's really not going to make a big difference to win this debate in public if it's 5 or 10 years from now. Well, maybe 5 and it will make a difference. 10 years, I don't know.
Point is we have a closing window of opportunity to win this debate (in the public mind). That's the point, "in the public mind"! We're not here to win it amongst ourselves. Winning the next 5 yards isn't going to help.
We HAVE won, the intellectual debate, the scientific review, the common sense analysis. Why in the world haven't we won our cause in the public mind?
Stop what your doing! Stop fighting for a 5 yard gain! We've already won that yardage. Our gains have not been respected. At this point, you're just fighting amongst yourselves and the other side isn't listening, if anything, they're laughing and time's running out!
Let's focus on the field, our objectives and the obstacles:
We have inescapable scientific fact leading to suspicion of treachery. It's being ignored, suppressed, even ridiculed (in the public mind). WHY!?
For your review. My words to those who have remained steadfast in their opinions of 9/11 (not mine) and have not taken the evidence seriously, in spite of my badgering. At one point they tepidly, or perhaps incredulously ask who? why? (good questions). This was my response. Was I too didactic?
Please keep in mind that we have known this for some time. There are over 1,200 architects and engineers who have signed a petition requesting a new investigation (because the results of the first are simply implausible), many at risk to their careers.
This is not a popular stance though necessary for one with insight and a conscience.
After so much success and momentum where do we stand? What are our chances and next steps now? What event or circumstances can further push this controversy where it needs to go? We've established reason and numbers are on our side. But can we continue to hold the sidelines without losing ground? What are our options?
What are our specific goals?
Perhaps most would say a new investigation, a serious one, an objective one, one with subpoena power. What’s the likelihood of that? What are the avenues where that may happen? Whose doors do we still have to knock on? Who do we still have to convince? Let’s say we convince a majority of the public of the need of a new investigation (we have)? Why isn't that enough?
What are the deterrents to achieving a new investigation? Isn’t the public tired of bad news, of controversy? How can the potential of this sort of initiative, bound to be long and divisive be a popular notion now?
Although each encounter was interesting and memorable, this was notable. A fellow, who's name I never got came by to exclaim, "It was a tragedy!, 9/11 was a tragedy!". And he didn't find any disagreement. He mumbled some things like planes can bring down buildings... that's just the way it is...". He went on about having respect for the those who lost family members and exclaimed, "It's a tragedy that you're here!". Meaning, of course, that we were stirring up the rubble that had long solidified from its weeks long molten state and was probably better off left alone. I pointed out that many family members were part of the movement and desired further investigation. Unconvinced he turned to me and repeated himself. I agreed with him, emotionally. I knew exactly what he meant. I said, "I agree with you but to me it's a tragedy and a disgrace that we HAVE to be here. To us, the events of 9/11 is an unfinished story that demands answers particularly for those affected that day." I encouraged him to read the questions on the board but he moved on in a cloak that prohibited any objectivity.