Naomi Wolf - "There hasen't been a real investigation of 9/11."

"it's bad to have an untouchable area ( 9/11 questions ) in a democracy,." - Naomi Wolf

I know some of you have attacked her for not taking a solid 9/11 truth position,. however I belive that by not taking such a position she is reaching more people that would simple dismiss such a decided position and is indeed getting them to think about 9/11 and question it.

What are your thought?

This is big.

This is big. Naomi is saying what most people in the Truth Movement have been saying all along, only she is choosing her words carefully. This was a clever way of saying she is suspicious without risking the fate of Rosie and Charlie Sheen. She has the credibility and drawing power to open doors.
One small step for Naomi, One giant leap for the Truth Movement.
Bravo Naomi.
We've been hoping for a celebrity to get on board with the movement. We here she is I think we should thank her and support her. She's a very brave woman.
Now we need to get the other Naomi onside.

The damn is leaking...and getting worse, for them.

Saying we need a new investigation is a lot easier for people to digest.

And the more people say it, the better.

With all the bush lies and corruption coming out on a daily basis,
I'm hoping that "non-believers" can put 2 and 2 together.

These Republicans questioning 9/11 are a huge boost!
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_alan_mil_071202_seven_senior_rep...

Clintons "Just like us"???

Yikes. I loved Naomi's book, but this seems a very naive statement. Is she biased? Mis-informed? I voted for Clinton way back when but have learned a lot since then. It seems to me that this erosion of our de-mock-racy started WAY before 2001. GWB may be just a final chapter? It is hard to sort out the facts with so much to learn and so much hate and slander out there, but to say the "Clintons are just like us" sets off alarm bells and whistles for me. I am still learning and unlike most people in this country/world my mind is open....I know there are willing people here in this blog to help educate me!

The shilling for the Clintons is too much to stomach

"Is she biased?"

I imagine 8 years of gainful employment by the Clinton White House (and the prospect of more to come) just might create a bias. I can't congratulate her for finally realizing that stonewalling on 9/11 has been blowing a huge hole in her credibility but of course I'm glad to see it - it's a another solid indicator of our momentum.

The Eleventh Day of Every Month

Maybe

the Clintons would use 9/11 as leverage to take the White House in 2008?

Personally, I think the Clintons are sleazy, and Hilary is as bad as Bush. But 9/11 Truth would, in my mind, trump anything that happens in the presidential race. So, if a Clinton sycophant like Naomi Wolf is willing to shill for 9/11 Truth just to get Hilary elected, then I'm fine with that. If justice ever arrives for 9/11 victims, it will be a seriously compromised justice.

Agreed

That was too much for me, as well. I'm at a loss as to how anyone could see 9/11 for what it is/was and not see the big picture. Waking up to 9/11 forced me to relearn a lot of the history I thought I already knew. Imo, there are stages to understanding this ... She's clearly at the stage where she thinks the GWB admin (neocons) are just a rogue element that can be rooted out -- problem solved. I don't think that's the case at all.

Naomi Wolf: newly awakened

To answer your questions, Crystal, I think she is at once both biased and misinformed. The two go hand in hand. Once the veil of ignorance is pulled, political bias tends to go out the window. However, waking up to our world of lies and conspiracy is not an all-of-a-sudden process. I had to spend a couple hundred hours studying before I became fully aware of the false paradigms of right/left and Democrat/Republican. She has only just woken up to the fact that 9/11 was a false-flag op, and that the history of terrorism and war is basically a primer on this type of covert operation. Additionally, just as there are psychological barriers to accepting government culpability in 9/11, there are further psychological barriers to accepting that 'your team' is also part of the evil globalist elite. Naomi is likely an incredibly busy woman, and I believe she should be credited for taking the time to look at and accepting the validity of the relevant 9/11 evidence despite having claimed not to be a "conspiracy theorist" only a month ago. She should be allowed more time to wake up to the full truth of our world.
I forget who it was, but someone affiliated with this website decided to take action and send information when they heard her statement, "I'm not a conspiracy theorist." I believe that that person deserves immense credit for having 'converted' an important academic. I see no reason why she wouldn't watch another documentary, or consider other textual evidence, dealing with the NWO complicity of mainstream Democrats, including the Clinton dynasty. She may end up discovering this on her own, but nothing's stopping any one of us from taking steps towards furthering her enlightenment in this respect.

Think about it -- when you first found out about 9/11, were you already hip to the Federal Reserve fraud, the war on drugs fraud, the Trilateral/CFR conspiracy, the N.A.U. conspiracy, the Bohemian Grove, the AIDS & Cancer frauds, the vaccine deception, the Disclosure Project & the Advanced Energy Research Organization, etc? Give this lady a chance to 'catch up' to the rest of us, or, better yet, find a way to actively expose her to more truths.

All right, good chat.
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"All that is required for evil to fail is for good men and women to do something."

Is that correct?

Did Wolf really say that she wasn't a "conspiracy theorist" last month?
I know Naomi Klein did, as it was posted here on Blogger. I think you might be confusing the two.
Can anyone confirm if Wolf also said that?

But, other than that I found some good good insights in what you wrote!

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The agenda of the New World Order is a global gov't based on the model of collectivism.
Educate yourself on this by reading part 1 of an essay by G. Edward Griffin: http://www.freedom-force.org/pdf/futurecalling1.pdf

You're darn right, Patrick! Thank you.

This is actually the second time I've confused these two Naomis. Aside from their identical first names, and identical professions, they both sport monosyllabic Germanic-sounding last names, and appear to be in their early/mid-thirties. (I'll be in real trouble when little-known 33-year-old author Naomi Schmidt starts flirting with the truth movement!)

Both Klein and Wolf garnered our collective attention on 9/11blogger in November, although Klein's "I'm not a conspiracy theorist" quote was, I believe, taken from an interview done in September of this year (video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IwPueUfW94) The woman who deserves credit for reaching out to Ms. Klein in a brilliantly-crafted letter is named Laurie Manwell. You can read - and use as inspiration - this letter at: http://www.911blogger.com/node/12627 Ms. Wolf's interview, in which she talks about "The End of America," can be found at: http://www.911blogger.com/node/12610

As for whether or not Wolf has ever said anything to the effect of "I'm not a conspiracy theorist;" I haven't found anything suggesting she has. Nonetheless, this most recent (Dec. 10th) clip of hers may be the first public 9/11 'truthing' she's ever done. Smells like progress to me.

By the way -- thanks for giving G. Edward Griffin a mention. He's one of my heroes, and his www.freedomforceinternational.org website was one of the first non-9/11-focused sites that I encountered when things first started gettin' serious several months ago (yes; I'm a newbie). It was actually one of his documentaries that helped spark my search for truth beyond the realm of 9/11. Here are some Griffin video links I highly recommend:

World Without Cancer: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4312930190281243507
The Science and Politics of Cancer: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3957307988644640556
The Capitalist Conspiracy: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=449294564876413449
An Idea Whose Time Has Come: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6015291679758430958
Creature from Jekyll Island: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6507136891691870450

Again -- thanks, Patrick.
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"All that is required for evil to fail is for good men and women to do something." -- Awake

Rise and Shine

Dear Awake,
Thank you for a voice of reason and discernment where posted comments here are all too often shrill, reactive and unrealistic. People really DO need to think about and recall their learning curve on 9/11. However, I'm sympathetic to the shrill, reactive and unrealistic because the longer one lives in this alternative universe where the crimes of 9/11 have become exceptionally obvious while so many of our fellow citizens cannot and will not begin to look at the evidence, do the research, think independently and go where the facts lead, is a depressing, often infuriating daily experience.
When one follows the evidence and must entertain the facts they suggest, one is suddenly at odds with everything one sees and hears around them. Family, friends and strangers become intolerable... for failing to want to know, for failing to grasp the consequences of what 9/11 means when the evidence is looked at and thought through.
It's true that we all must recall our own learning curve and encourage others to begin to do likewise, to do the research, to find out. I appreciate reading the calm clarity of your thoughts; we all need much more of the same in our lives and in this movement.
Yet how alienated one necessarily becomes, how little patience one feels for the lazy minded and the oblivion they enjoy at such peril to us all. It's complicated isn't it? On the one hand one feels that time is running out to arrive at the tipping point where a new investigation can be broadly supported; on the other hand, one feels the breath of a permanent and grotesque marginalization at one's back. An entire world has sprung up to support and perpetuate the monolithic myth of the official 9/11 narrative. It becomes increasingly difficult to envision that the truth will out. The forces we contend with, forces capable of perpetrating 9/11 to begin with, and then all the forces arrayed to keep the official storyline intact and thriving... well, they're formidable to say the least. None of us want to go the way of crop circles... How much time do we have to undo what the world has become?

"The innocence of the creatures is in inverse proportion to the immorality of the Master." Thomas Pynchon

Just like us?

Actually, I wouldn't have signed off on the 1993 FBI led WTC bombing, the massacre at Waco, or the false flag bombing at OKC.

The Clintons might be just like you Naomi, but don't include me.

Yes, ask Kevin Ives or Terry

Yes, ask Kevin Ives or Terry Yeakey if they are "just like us".
http://www.idfiles.com/ojvid.htm
http://www.riflewarrior.com/who_killed_terry_yeakey.htm

“On the altar of God, I swear eternal hostility against all forms of tyranny over the mind of man."--Thomas Jefferson

Yes, Crystal...way before 2001...

First of all, hi. Second...

This is not the first "war of terror". Check out Noam Chomsky's talk on "Distorted Morality". It deals with George Shultz and the Reagan Administration's "terror" threats in Central America and Indonesia.

This is not even the first Sept. 11th.... 1973, the CIA and Nixon supported coup of Chile allowed business to go into Chile and privatize everything. Naomi Klein talks about it in Shock Doctrine. (Kissenger was a big part of that... and Kissenger was Bush's first choice to head the 911 Commission...).

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/the-obvious-connections-are-t...

Look up "Team B" and you will see the first version of "The Office of Special Plans"

Look up "Commitee on the Present Danger"....

Or you can go to my site, and there are many articles that explain alot of this stuff.

Yes, there are alot of hate and slander sites out there... But you won't find that crap at my site.

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2007/10/05/the-miracle-of-america/

I hope this helps in some small way. I think that what Wolf is doing does a great disservice to our cause... and this is why.

Because the people that she talks to (mainly well meaning, educated middle class) think that they are hearing "cutting edge" political discourse.

But when she says things like it only started after 2001, that pretty much negates any discussion of what lead up to the attacks. And these people go away willing to understand that the "republicans" are evil and the "democrats" (clintons) are good. And that is DEEPLY troubling if you really want to stop this kind of criminal behavior in politics these days.

Hilary Clinton...

Imo Hilary is just as bad as GWB. Hopefully Naomi will make this realization and start supporting Ron Paul.

Naomi did write a favourable article about Ron Paul last month actually:
Finally, Action! Ron Paul Introduces Bill to Defend Constitution

she is a truther IMO, just

she is a truther IMO, just being conservative. you don't want to be too far out front...just ask the dixie chicks.

right. be a truther...

...as long as it doesn't cost you book sales or a potential post on the next Clinton Administration.

Thanks for 9/11 truth plug Naomi.

Do more research on the Clintons. I believe they support tyranny NOT liberty despite what you think you know of them and their character.

http://patricksperry.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/hillary-quotes

Where is the G-damn f**king flag? I want the G-damn f**king flag up every f**king morning at f**king sunrise." (From the book "Inside The White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 244 - Hillary to the staff at the Arkansas Governor's mansion on Labor Day, 1991)

"You sold out, you mother f**ker! You sold out!" (From the book "Inside" by Joseph Califano, p. 213 - Hillary yelling at Democrat lawyer.)

"It's been said, and I think it's accurate, that my husband was obsessed by terrorism in general and al-Qaida in particular." (Hillary telling a post-9/11 world what a 'great' commander in chief her husband was; Dateline, NBC 4/16/2004.)

"I have to admit that a good deal of what my husband and I have learned [about Islam] has come from our daughter." (TruthInMedia.org 8/8/1999 - Hillary at a White House function, proudly tells some Muslim groups she is gaining a greater appreciation of Islam because Chelsea was then taking a class on the "religion of peace")

F**k off! It's enough that I have to see you shit-kickers every day, I'm not going to talk to you too!! Just do your G*damn job and keep your mouth shut." (From the book "American Evita" by Christopher Anderson, p. 90 - Hillary to her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with "Good morning."

"You f**king idiot." (From the book "Crossfire" p. 84 - Hillary to a State Trooper who was driving her to an event.)

"If you want to remain on this detail, get your f**king ass over here and grab those bags!" (From the book "The First Partner" p. 259 - Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident.)

"Get f**ked! Get the f**k out of my way!!! Get out of my face!!!"(From the book "Hillary's Scheme" p. 89 - Hillary's various comments to her Secret Service detail agents.)

"Stay the f**k back, stay the f**k away from me! Don't come within ten yards of me, or else! Just f**king do as I s ay, Okay!!!?" (From the book "Unlimited Access", by Clinton FBI Agent in Charge, Gary Aldrige, p. 139 - Hillary screaming at her Secret Service detail.)

"Many of you are well enough off that [President Bush's] tax cuts may have helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to have to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." (Hillary grandstanding at a fund raising speech in San Francisco; SFGate.com 6/28/2004.)

"Why do I have to keep proving to people that I am not a liar?!"(From the book "The Survivor," by John Harris, p. 382 - Hillary in her 2000 Senate campaign)

"Where's the miserable c*ck sucker?" (From the book "The Truth About Hillary" by Edward Klein, p. 5 - Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer)

"No matter what you think about the Iraq war, there is one thing we can all agree on for the next days - we have to salute the courage and bravery of those who are risking their lives to vote and those brave Iraqi and American soldiers fighting to protect their right to vote." (Was posted on Hillary Clinton's senate.gov web site on 1/28/05)

"Put this on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the limo. I need those sunglasses. We need to go back!" (From the book "Dereliction of Duty" p. 71-72 - Hillary to Marine One helicopter pilot to turn back while en route to Air Force One.)

A right-wing network was after his presidency…including perverting the Constitution." (To Barbara Walters about the Republicans who impeached her husband; 20/20, ABC 6/8/2003.)

"What are you doing inviting these people into my home? These people are our enemies! They are trying to destroy us!" (From the book "The Survivor" by John Harris, p. 99 - Hillary screaming to an aide, when she found out that some Republicans had been invited to the White House)

"I mean, you've got a conservative and right-wing press presence with really nothing on the other end of the political spectrum." (C-Span, 1/19/1997 - Hillary complains about the mainstream media, which are all conservatives in her opinion)

"Come on Bill, put your dick up! You can't f**k her here!!" (From the book "Inside The White House" by Ronald Kessler, p. 243 - Hillary to Gov. Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female at an Arkansas political rally)

"You know, I'm going to start thanking the woman who cleans the restroom in the building I work in. I'm going to start thinking of her as a human being" (From the book "The Case Against Hillary Clinton" by Peggy Noonan, p. 55)

"You show people what you're willing to fight for when you fight your friends." (From the book "The Agenda" by Bob Woodward, ch. 14)

"We are at a stage in history in which remolding society is one of the great challenges facing all of us in the West." (From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p 119 - During her 1993 commencement address at the University of Texas)

"The only way to make a difference is to acquire power" (From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p 68 - Hillary to a friend before starting law school.)

"We just can't trust the American people to make those types of choices…. Government has to make those choices for people" (From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p 20 - Hillary to Rep. Dennis Hastert in 1993 discussing her expensive, disastrous taxpayer-funded health care plan)

"I am a fan of the social policies that you find in Europe" (From the book "I've Always Been A Yankee Fan" by Thomas D. Kuiper, p. 76 - Hillary in 1996)

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http://www.amazon.com/Hillary-Clinton-Nude-Ambition-Americas/dp/14259675...

http://www.hillary-clinton-nude.com

http://9-11.Meetup.com/322
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RRREMA=research, realize, react, educate, motivate, activate
"It's been said, and I think it's accurate, that my husband was obsessed by terrorism in general and al-Qaida in particular." (Hillary

Next question

Encouraging this, as I'm a bit sceptical about her. However, she continues to speak good things about Clinton. The next time people confront her, perhaps they can ask her what she thinks of the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia that Clinton ordered?

One big happy family

Don't forget that Clinton rained depleted uranium on Yugoslavia. The pretext for that action was as bogus as the "WMD in Iraq" lie. Camp Bondsteel was built in Yugoslavia to secure a route for smuggling of drugs, sex slaves (DynCorp), and a future oil pipeline. Not to mention forward basing to encircle Russia.

Also the Clinton embargo on Iraq led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children, although SecState Madeline Albright and SecDef Cohen thought that was just fine.

Remember how Bush put a Goldman Sachs man (Paulson) in as treasurer? Clinton had a Goldman Sachs man (Rubin) as treasurer. Of note Rubin is now cooking the books for Citigroup and is married to CNNs Cristianne Ammanpour. Small elite world.

And why did GHW Bush's Iran-Contra cocaine shipments land in Mena, Arkansas when Clinton was governor?

Why do GHW and Barbara Bush consider Clinton to be an adopted son?

Bushes/Clintons/BinLadens - three branches of one great organized crime family.

Clinton huggers are either deeply ignorant or shills of the perps.

This what I am talking about...

This is exactly what I am talking about. As Wolf tells people this is just happening since 2001, and that "the Clintons are great people" , she is enabling the system. It is this "left vs right" bs that created the comfort zone for these criminals to operate in for several decades. Whether or not she does it on purpose is irrelevant.

Great post Alek.

I heard her on the Alex Jones show recently

and I have to say I've never heard two people more excited and eager to learn from each other. After listening to that show I'd say it would be next to impossible for them to not continue conversating on a regular basis, and in that context I would think Jones will school her on 9/11 if she is not already on the up and up.

Yes, I heard that interview...

http://prisonplanet.com/audio/291107wolf.mp3
It was very entertaining to listen to.
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Very insightful article: Ron Paul and the 'Polls' by Jane Aitken

she's been putt on a terror

she's been putt on a terror suspect list by Bush, wrote a book on how the US is looking more and more like Hitler Germany.. well if I where her I would be VERY carefull about the words I said. She's closer to rendition then any of the posters here on this blog.

She might be

but that does not mean she tells the whole truth.
Why is the US looking more and more like Hitler-Germany?
Is it because of the control and money of zionist-bankers?
They controlled Germany, ruined it and made a lot of lot of money, they own the US, are ruining it and make a lot of money...and so on.

read her book.. you might

read her book..

you might feel she's all to aware of the world we life in that is why (I think) she is so carefull in telling the truth in the open (you can't... if she does she's on a whole other(black) list), And why should she state '911 inside job'? There are a whole lot of things to point out with truth as result. 9/11 alone could fill a lifetime on research and so on, may'be she prefers to attack tiranny by pointing out the state the states are at right now. And in her book she does an excellent job listing the ten steps to total tirrany. read it.

or watch this; "Talk by

or watch this;
"Talk by Naomi Wolf author of "The End of America: Letter of Warning To A Young Patriot" given October 11, 2007 at Kane Hall on the University of Washington campus."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc

Show "where she was??" by merged

@merged

if you'd listen she's talking about the plane bomb over Lockerbie. you're a fool for shouting she's a liar without actually knowing what she said.

Gasp Choke Cough

Hearing anyone on this planet suggest that the Clinton's are "just like us" makes me giggle like a kid. Not knocking Naomi Wolf, as I think she is still "waking up", but I think she has a Kool-Aid mustache. Not a Jim Jones ones, but maybe a lime green one.

It's funny to hear people that were given P.R. work or surface level jobs in Administrations tell us about the morality of their former bosses. Naomi Naomi , I like ya girl, but you really have to learn to think multi dimensionally on this stuff. This isn't your old Watergate crowd getting their hand caught in the cookie jar based on ideology or witch hunts about blow jobs.

2007 is a long way from 1997. I think a person MUST get their head out of the Two Party paradigm to truly open the door to what is known as "conspiracy". FBI was involved with WTC bombing in '93. There was inside involvement in Oklahoma and "TIM MCVEIGH" These things we KNOW, but it is often overshadowed by what happened on 9/11.

Bubba presided over that term. Guilty? I don't know. Suspect? Never was a proper investigation, just like 9/11. We may never know.

I think it would be advantageous to remind ourselves that 9/11 was just the latest. WTC 93 and Oklahoma should never be forgotten. Hell , tack those on to what needs to be revisited also.

The Naomi's

I wonder if they know eachother.

I saw Naomi Klein in Portland, Or. last Friday evening when she was confronted by some somewhat boorish truthers. I knew somebody would confront her on that note, so I took a keen interest in what she had to say.
She said, (paraphrasing):
"I don't put any faith in the 9/11 commission report, and I don't put anything past these people. I have a whole lot of questions about 9/11, BUT... I only write what I can prove."
I was heartened to hear that from a journalist. Because, you know, that's just what they should do.
And, knowing that her Mother in law was raked over the coals for questioning 9/11 early on, I think what Naomi Klein has done is to go in search of the framework.. the bigger picture.
Even while she absolutely doesn't take an inside job stance, Klein does mention Kissinger's appointment to head the commission, the curious date coincidence w/ 9/11 1973, when the Chilean government was overthrown to institute globalism, and how 9/11 has been used to promote a globalist agenda that benefits primarily the disgustingly rich.
The Shock Doctrine covers and makes a strong case for manufactured crisis, as well. And, the book is so compelling, that I think it will break that cycle of psychological resistance in many intelligent people who have been clinging to the 9/11 myth.
Several times while reading the book I had the feeling that she was avoiding 9/11 to reach a wider audience and to expose the bigger pattern.
And, truly, if 9/11 *is* part of a bigger pattern, what harm is there in that? Research for the book is posted online: http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine/resources

Naomi Wolf, in this talk, looks like she's bringing 9/11 to this group unbidden. That's awesome.
It really does make me think that we've finally hit the tipping point.

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Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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From Rosie's Blog:

Rhonda writes:

Narrow minded about Jenna Bush. Your response to promoting her book. Were your parents all you dreamed of. She is a good girl and being conservative does not make you bad.I am dissapointed in you!

listen
if i had a show
i would book naomi wolf
not jenna bush

www.rosie.com

The Naomis are dong all right

There are many people out there who still find the concept of false-flag ops in the USA too far out. Naomi Wolf's contribution, whether intended or virtual, is to give those folks enough evidence of galloping fascism from the mainstream literature to shock them into thinking about the current US power structure in post-infantile terms, without touching the third-rail of "inside jobs." Both Wolf's "ten steps to fascism" and Klein's "shock-based revolutionary capitalism" do a good job of culturally and psychologically side-stepping a subject which is all taboo for too many liberals: the idea that "our own government", as misguided or even evil as it might be overseas, is just as capable of being murderous to "citizens like them" right here at home.

Keep in mind that while those coming from a conservative background have some basic ideological grounding in the concept of governments having structural biases towards bad behavior, most liberals don't have an inherent problem with activist government -- their basic bias is to look at the intentions of those in charge, and assume that all that's necessary for "good government" to happen is for the "right people" with the "right intentions" to be put in charge of the "machinery of government." And many of them do see themselves as being the people who, by some right, should be in charge of those "levers of power" to control that government machinery -- which, being just machinery, will automatically do the right things once they get a seat at the controls.

Most such liberals have spent a fair amount of time trying to figure out how to do the right thing with power, not how to limit it. And they really have a hard time coming to terms with the idea that the "machinery" they should rightfully control could be used to directly attack themselves, its rightful masters. They have a VERY hard time understanding any system powerful enough to be an effective welfare state is also capable of being a very efficient prison, even slaughterhouse.

Modern liberals have much in common with the Confucian intellectuals of Imperial China, and intellectual cadres of other imperial regimes in other cultures and eras. They simply have a very hard time seeing themselves as prey. Their entire intellectual career, since junior high school, has been to groom them for some "policy-making position." Remember the joke about newspapers? "Readers of the Washington Post think they have the power... readers of the New York Times think they ought to have the power... readers of the Wall Street Journal actually have the power." The Naomis' audiences have good hearts, are very bright... and don't read the Wall Street Journal. They have spent their whole lives mistaking their being groomed to be skilled functionaries for being groomed for power. This inherent lack of humility and blindness to their own limits not only gives them the stamina to keep at the roles they're good at (and needed for), it keeps them from realizing that this time, that barrel isn't swinging in the direction of the poor souls they are trying to shield -- it's being aimed directly at them.

Having a couple of fellow intellectuals, whose relatives were killed in Nazi extermination camps, write these books now can serve as an effective emotional softening-up campaign to realize that "it can happen here." Once readers of these books, and perhaps readers of "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" realize that the local Empire really is an Evil Empire, and that it can treat the US mainland as a set of colonies... maybe they'll be emotionally ready to deal with the next step: that "It Already Has Happened Here", and "It Can Happen Here, Again, And Soon."

I can imagine both the Naomis, like some others, are probably both learning more as they go AND are sometimes hedging their words -- either till they reach a personal and professional level of verification, or till their typical audience is ready to hear a stronger approximation of the truth. Wolf's current message says practically everything of political significance being said in the 9-11 truth movement, without actually saying those words. And even if they never blurt out "inside job", they can lead audeinces along an evidentiary path to a point where making that leap for themselves is no longer an insurmountable task.

Please keep in mind that, at this point, practically anyone willing to deal with the evidence on its face has already been reached. These are new markets, so to speak, and the blocks to their accepting the challenge of facing the truth is not simply based on "lack of access" to the evidence. For these folks, "9-11 truth" exists in a realm somewhere between "You were born because Mommy Did It with Daddy" and "We never really went to the Moon." It's either too outlandish to be true, or too unspeakable to dwell on, and certainly not to be talked about in public.

The Naomis are playing their part in the current movement being played by the Imperial opposition's counterpart to the Might Wurlitzer... give 'em credit for that. I suspect each demographic fraction currently either still supporting the American Empire, or not opposing it, will have to find their own set of intellectual prophets who break down the specific preconceptions, assumptions, or taboos, keeping their group from
(1) considering 9-11 truth directly; (2) giving it the top priority in their intellectual and political development that it deserves, or (3) finding ways to bring their political actions and behavior in-line with the intellectual truths they now know, or dreadfully suspect.

Currently I suspect the message that needs to get out to the readers of the Wall Street Journal, another very important demographic, is to not only see the neocon venture as a failed policy that's drastically harmed the US, it has failed precisely because the neocons in every move have intentionally ignored everyone else's ideas, and have shown nothing but contempt for everyone else, even those they have depended on to carry out their ventures. And this is a structural failing inherent in THEIR ideological DNA. Perhaps a significant fraction of the "WSJ readership" will then be capable of breaking ranks and seeing things for themselves -- not so much that covert operations exist, but that all those pesky democratic procedures and values, like openness, debate, and due process, force everyone's ideas to be put to the test before those ideas can do real damage... and that all of us need that discipline of proving our most cherished ideas to unsympathetic audiences. Too many conservatives have sided with too many neocons simply because they have tired of "endless debate", which is another way of saying they have failed to prove their ideas or understand the dynamics of marketplaces for ideas. As a result of their turning a blind eye to the neocons glorification of the cult of secrecy in government, not only do we now have a government that's increasingly brutal, the lack of pointed debate means government policies are becoming increasingly downright stupid. So... well, if they won't listen to the Founding Fathers, they won't be able to ignore Darwin. Maybe the "WSJ readers" will catch on that the structured stupidity of empires reliably carry the seeds of the empire's own destruction. In that light, perhaps they will be capable of seeing the voices of those ready to declare the bankruptcy of this Empire as those ready to look for a sober reorganization plan for the (hopefully) surviving Democratic Republic.