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Re: "Shining a Light on the Roots of Terrorism"
Letting the "elephant out of the bag" on 9/11 would of course require the word "treason." You're a bright, studied guy. You know this.
Further, if your intent is to fight terrorism, as the article positions itself, then western INTELLIGENCE support for terrorism should be front and center. From Mujahadeen in 1979 to KLA in the 1990s, Jundullah and MEK today, and Alpha 66, death squads on most continents and other seedy CIA connected "terror," this is quite an omission.
Besides the Israeli question -- which is all well and good, but not the whole story by a long shot -- we have US ALLIES supporting Islamic terrorist networks.
Further, these networks could not have accomplished 9/11 or numerous other attacks without treasonous support by US leaders and their allies in the Saudi Arabian government, the Pakistani government and elsewhere. When are your readers going to see an in-depth analysis of these matters, truly the matters that bear on the issue?
The phrase "9/11 TRUTH" has been demonized in the popular media for years. It is a dead term. It has all sorts of negative associations from space beams to tin foil hats to people who shout and interrupt with incoherent messages.
It is dead.
It was never a good marketing term, and it was always open to attack that we are pushing untruth under the banner of "truth."
The term that packs a much better punch is 9/11 Cover-Up. The Cover-Up is more tangible. It can't be immediately dismissed because everyone, and I do mean everyone, accepts that there are covered up aspects that the government has hidden from us.
Cover-Up puts the focus back onto those who are covering up, rather than onto unreliable sources spouting inanities on message boards.
Cover-Up prompts the listener to consider whether to take a side regarding the Cover-Up issue.
Cover-Up suggests a mystery, and piques curiosity.
Cover-Up has an exciting movie quality, that there is more to the plot that we should want to discover.
Cover-Up leaves open the possibility of criminality, and of uncovering more suspects.
Cover-Up can be considered treason in this matter.
Conspiracy, Inc.: Wild Tales From the Reactionary Right
You can't even provide a reasonable definition of "conspiracy" in your mindless call to ignorance. I also strongly detest your guilt by association approach, as if we are all alike, all incredible, all in the same category because you say so. The smear that people who call out government complicity and cover-up must be from the "reactionary right" is worthy of the drooling neanderthals you hoped to lampoon.
If you had a dictionary handy, you might have learned that conspiracy is any crime involving multiple parties. It's one of the most prosecuted charges in the US by the justice department (sic).
We are to take it -- from you -- a priori that the government never commits crimes. People in the white house, for example, never agree to break the law.
Large mountains of empirical evidence dispute this "theory" you posit. Your position is laughable on its face, of course, and your rant is gibberish.
Ketcham keeps bolstering the Big Lie by pretending that the incompetence theory of 9/11 has merit. In numerous ways he defends the criminal actions of high level players who have a long history of helping terrorists and funding their networks. While admitting to such practices in the distant past, Ketchum ignores the period leading up to 9/11 as well as the present.
What Ketcham should have grilled Baer about is terrorism by proxy: ISI and Saudi intelligence in particular, (MI6, BND and Mossad also engage in this practice).
It is no longer even denied that ISI created and protected "Al Qaeda," and assists the Taliban to this day, nor is it reasonable to deny that the USA funds the ISI.
Much credible evidence links the Saudi government to the 9/11 hijackers, and we don't hear anything about that, despite Senator Graham's open admissions of the facts. FBI surveillance showed links between a Saudi agent and the Saudi embassy, as he assisted hijackers in San Diego.
Yes, the quest for a new and true investigation of the 9/11 attacks seems like a lost cause. Still, some brave souls go out on a limb and press the issue with politicians and media celebrities. For these brave, persistent souls, I am compiling a list of short, to the point questions to ask...
1. If the president is told, "we're under attack," and he doesn't take on his duties as commander in chief of the military -- is that technically treason ("aid and comfort" to the "enemy")?
2. How many NORAD fighter jets were assigned to protect America on January 20 2001 -- the day Bush took office -- as compared to on 9/11?
3. If the 28 redacted pages of the Congressional Joint Inquiry into 9/11 implicate the Saudi Arabian government, as Senator Graham has said, isn't it time to expose this and to tell the American people the truth?
4. If America is fighting a "war" on terrorism, then why are they supporting terrorist groups called "MEK" and "Jundullah" right now, as reported by Seymour Hersh in the New Yorker?
[This Muckraker Report article is apparently not online:
Taking the fat out of the fat bin Laden confession video
A PDF version was found here:
This is a response to Dr. Griffin's article:
Osama Bin Laden: Dead or Alive?
Oh Dr. Griffin--
You keep making avoidable mistakes and sabotaging your own credibility.
This article has two serious mistakes, that shouldn't be repeated ignorantly. They both go back to the "confession tape."
1) Griffin should know by now that the video was converted and so the aspect ratio was changed. The PAL (European standard) to NTSC (American standard) conversion squishes the vertical by 17%. This is the reason the "actor" did not appear to be Osama bin Laden. Once the video frames are converted back to their proper ratio, they appear to be exactly Osama bin Laden. This was while he was still alive in September or October of 2001.
Study this article carefully:
9/11 Untruth Petition
Revision to the 2004 Statement
(please distribute widely)
We Don't Want Real Answers About 9/11
On August 31, 2004, Zogby International, the official North American political polling agency for Reuters, released a poll that found nearly half (50.7%) of New York City residents and 59% of those in New York state believed US leaders did not have foreknowledge of impending 9/11 attacks or "consciously failed" to act. Of the New York City residents, 34% did not call for a new probe of unanswered questions by Congress or the New York Attorney General.
In connection with this news, and the mindless propaganda of outlets like Fox News, we hereby ridicule calls for immediate public attention to unanswered questions concerning 9/11, and we demand punishment for anyone who suggest that people within the Bush administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen as pretexts for wars.
We do not in any way want truthful answers to questions such as:
1. Why were standard operating procedures for dealing with hijacked airliners not followed that day?
"Paul Krassner is the editor of The Realist. His books include: Pot Stories for the Soul, One Hand Jerking and Murder at the Conspiracy Convention. He can be reached through his website: http://paulkrassner.com/"
Subject: what a completely idiotic and useless bit of propaganda
If the matters weren't so serious, it would be just another sad joke.
Again, Mr. debunker9978451236,
I'll spell it out for you.
The focus of your attack piece was not the 9/11 COVER-UP, which is clearly the elephant in the room and undeniable, even by you. No, the focus was some fringe people in the 9/11 Truth Movement who you use to malign the entire movement in a guilt by association attack.
"Supreme Court quashes 9/11 lawsuit against Saudis"
"...That was more or less the position of the Obama administration as well, which sided with the [SAUDIS] and urged the courts to dismiss the lawsuit."
"...Among the documents were a statement from an Al Qaeda operative in Bosnia who said the Saudi High Commission had funded the terrorist group in the 1990s, and evidence from the U.S. Treasury Department that a Saudi charity, the International Islamic Relief Organization, had been financially supporting Al Qaeda as recently as 2006."
I'm not surprised that the little people of the world, the victims, have no say in international affairs. This is quite blatant and is essentially the status quo. The famous quote by Nazi Air Marshall Herman Goering is relevant here:
This isn't about 9/11 directly, but about the environment we operate in today.
Google is doing "evil."
Friends and acquaintances,
I may have to abandon The Crimes of the State Blog, hosted on blogger, a subsidiary of google. I can no longer get logged in without it kicking me off of TOR (The Onion Router), therefore it appears to be trying to compromise my anonymity.
Google has long been set to not search for certain types of IP ranges, such as anonymous browsers and those on TOR. The company actively denies service to those it can't track. This is a fascistic approach, and a fascistic mindset that is in direct violation of their supposed company policy to "not do evil."
This is indicative of a complete surveillance culture that affects us all, and will do so for the rest of our lives.
Ten trillion dollars looted in a matter of months, the imminent collapse of the US economy, mandatory compulsory "national security" paramilitary "service" openly demanded... Is it worth 2 hours of your time to investigate these matters critically?
Alex Jones' new documentary is out, online for free. Jones tends to be hyperbolic and acerbic.
If, however, even ten percent of what he says is true, we are fucked.
We should support Senator Leahy's proposal for a "Truth Commission" despite its toothless appearance. I will respond to Jesse Richard's (TVNewsLies) accusation that such a commission would be a "sham."
I agree with Richard that it has all the potential of being a "white wash" and ineffectual, but we must pursue this and support it anyway.
"Eric H. Holder Jr. was sworn in as the 82nd Attorney General of the United States on February 3, 2009 by Vice-President Joe Biden." -US Department of Justice website
Office of the Attorney General - 202-353-1555
E-mails to the Department of Justice, including the Attorney General, may be sent to AskDOJ@usdoj.gov
Attorney General Eric H. Holder
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001
Ladies and Gentlemen,
With each change of personnel, there is the chance -- however slight -- that the new appointee will NOT be okay with high treason perpetrated by the former regime.
It is incumbent upon us to contact and to inform the new Attorney General of the facts of the case in the simplest, most easily digestible terms. This is not a place for conspiracy theories, claims that cannot be proven, or sloppy language.
It is a place for simple, straightforward facts that indicate wrongdoing on the part of Bush et al.
National Security Division
Additional contacts at end.]
Notice of High Treason perpetrated by former President George Walker Bush and
other members of his Administration relating to the Terrorist Attacks of September
11th, 2001 ("9/11").
1. Applicable law: US Code Title 18, Chapter 115, § 2382. Misprision
Crimes of the State Blog
"Conspiracism is raising its Medusa’s head again, her lethal visage wreathed with hissing absurdities, immobilizing judgement, melting intellect to pumice." --Alexander Cockburn (ignoring all evidence that is contrary to his irrational biases)
Blather at new heights of cognitive dissonance over at CounterPunch this weekend. Cockburn uses the term "conspiracism", as if that were a real thing, to mock any and all comers, even in a piece about the minutiae of some Wall Street fraud (Bernie Madoff).
But how can he get away with this childish mocking about the JFK assassination, without having to address even one piece of evidence at all?
Here is the entirety of what Cockburn says about "conspiracism" and the JFK assassination in that piece:
This has not been deleted, so far, and has 46 votes...
Stop Criminal Covert Activity
Covert intelligence operatives and private mercenaries contracted to the US government have been implicated in crimes ranging from international drug smuggling to terrorism. This unaccountable system must be exposed and stopped. See investigative reporter Daniel Hopsicker for details related to CIA connected planes caught full of cocaine. Make Obama respond to these charges of criminal complicity in the CIA, DEA and FBI.
Apply the law to covert sponsors of terrorism, including prosecuting the former regime for their cooperation with terrorists such as Jundullah and M.E.K. (Seymour Hersh, The New Yorker).
Expose the "foreign governments" (US Senate, October 28, 2003) who assisted the "9/11 hijackers", whose acts were made "classified" by the Bush white house. This is arguably high treason, and is indicative of a wide cover-up of the 9/11 attacks. Disclose the roles of CIA and FBI supervisors who shut down investigations prior to the attacks and hold all parties accountable for their law breaking.
Facts to the contrary, there just are no conspiracies
David Lindorff has finally stuck his foot in his mouth, over at Commondreams.org, a notorious anti-truth gatekeeping site. I suppose we should all just abandon even the hope for justice, truth and reconciliation and take orders from the establishment Democrats?
Lindorff mixes irrational hyperbole with some revisionist whitewashing, all in an effort to put those pesky "conspiracy theories" behind us -- in the service of "the left." This tactic was employed previously by Alexander Cockburn among others, and is quite simply shameful.
Fwd from Senator Karen Johnson:
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A response to: "Love America or We'll Kill You" by Richard Rhames
You seem to have found yourself on the wrong side of the "war on terror," a fraudulent, fictional war that needs some serious deconstruction.
As Goehring told the world, the "leaders" only need to tell the nation that we are "under attack" and to "denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger." This Nazi formula for imperial conquest has a long history of working. It is being employed today at a steady drumbeat.
Please add this to Alternet's comments. I am unable to do so.
BETTER THAN ANY BAILOUT
Let's Play the "Blame Game" Instead
Crimes of the State
Taxpayers, Americans, rational people, I have a modest proposal. Instead of spending $700 Billion to buy bad debt from the bank shark fraudsters, let us spend merely 1/2 of $1 Billion to build a new SuperDuper Prison(TM), and round up all the organized crime figures who are attempting to defraud the People of the United States of multiple generations' worth of wealth.
Start with Phil Gramm and Robert Rubin (a bipartisan effort!), who were most instrumental in this crime, by abusing their offices and the trust of the nation, and engaging in gross malfeasance.
Malfeasance at this level should not be ignored. It only encourages more criminal activity.
I know, I know, we're not allowed to play the "blame game" because White House press secretaries have forbidden it. (Odd how they cash in on the blame in their memoirs after they leave the post... but, I digress.)
Hand-Off to Obama?
Crimes of the State
The Washington Post, today,1 has done a pretty good job of encapsulating the fraudulent "war on terrorism" without actually calling it a fraud. One would have to be in-the-know to understand the implications, but they are there if one is willing to study the article.
"There has been no confirmed trace of bin Laden since he narrowly escaped from the CIA and the U.S. military after the battle near Tora Bora, Afghanistan, in December 2001, according to U.S., Pakistani and European officials."
That's a pretty strong statement. No "trace?"
The following FBI document was obtained by the website "Intelwire.com" in February of this year. It confirms the following:
"Phone records revealed Bayoumi called local Saudi officials, including the consulate in San Diego, 34 times. He called Saudi officials in Washington D.C. 141 times in the same period, according to the memo -- more than twice a day on average."
This is the man the FBI hid from investigators, and who had hosted 2 alleged hijackers and paid for them to get an apartment. There is also a discrepancy about when he met them, with an apparent lie that he did not meet them at the airport the day of their arrival.
This is clear smoking gun cover-up evidence.
California Resident Who Helped 9/11 Hijackers Was Closely Linked To Saudi Government
2002-04-15: FBI Letterhead Memorandum, Omar Al Bayoumi Contacts With Saudi Government
With the release of the NIST final report on Building 7 we can safely say that the government remains committed to the ongoing cover-up, and that crucial evidence was simply ignored, fairy tales were manufactured, and that's good enough for a lot of media. Perhaps a super-majority of media.
As media, "the press," will not perform its function as society's government watchdog, and will not pursue the gaping holes in this wizard's curtain, it's basically left to us -- you and me -- to clear up this matter for our fellow citizens. We are at a serious disadvantage, and yet the task is not so daunting as rabid "debunkers" would have you believe.
Let's defer to one of their own, the former head of NIST's Fire Science Division (the federal government organization which produced the sham report linked above).
I just stumbled on this must-read article concerning Taliban and a US State Department paid Afghan businessman.
Cockburn and St. Clair lay out shocking evidence that implicates both Clinton And Bush (although they only blame Bush in their editorializing) for deliberately leaving bin Laden free and at large, despite numerous offers by Taliban to turn him over, kill him or deal with him in any other way -- unconditionally.
Note, that bin Laden was indeed on the FBI Most Wanted List for the African embassy bombings of 1998, at the time the article recounts. Bin Laden had also declared war on the US and "the Jews," in two fatwas issued in 1998. The fatwas encouraged Muslims to attack US and Israeli civilians as well as military targets.
So, why would the US government -- across two administrations -- repeatedly refuse the Taliban's offers of extradition?
The below information fits in seamlessly with other reports of a similar nature.
CounterPunch's editorializing (spin) is the weak part. This insider witness, Mr. Mohabbat, should be a household name and a part of any new investigation into 9/11.
The Forged Iraqi Letter: What Just Happened?
By Ron Suskind
07/08/08 "Huffington Post" -- - -What just happened? Evidence. A secret that has been judiciously kept for five years just spilled out. All of what follows is new, never reported in any way:
The Iraq Intelligence Chief, Tahir Jalil Habbush — a man still carrying with $1 million reward for capture, the Jack of Diamonds in Bush’s famous deck of wanted men — has been America’s secret source on Iraq. Starting in January of 2003, with Blair and Bush watching, his secret reports began to flow to officials on both sides of the Atlantic, saying that there were no WMD and that Hussein was acting so odd because of fear that the Iranians would find out he was a toothless tiger. The U.S. deep-sixed the intelligence report in February, “resettled” Habbush to a safe house in Jordan during the invasion and then paid him $5 million in what could only be considered hush money.
[NOTE: In a criminal lapse of journalistic memory, these revelations are presented as something new. No history of Pakistani ISI sponsorship of terrorist attacks is given to the readers. No ties to 9/11, to Pakistani ISI chief Mahmoud Ahmad, or other relevant information is provided.
Need I remind readers (as NY Times does not) that we've been shovelling several BILLION dollars per year over to the Pakistan regime since 9/11/01, basically to maintain this status quo situation (protecting terrorists so as to provide an endless, open-ended "war on terror" myth).
Too many low level US operatives found out about this blatant Pakistani terror attack, and monumentally stupid act of war against India, in order to keep it quiet and under wraps.]
Reading the new history commons page on a Justice Department "stand down" order to the FBI -- I saw quite a coincidence:
"October 9, 2001: FBI Agents Told to Curtail 9/11 Investigation and Focus on Preventing Future Attacks"
What else happened on October 9?
What prompted this outrageous "stand down" order across the FBI?
From my article:
October 6-8, 2001:
Maria Ressa of CNN reports that 9/11 paymaster Mustafa Ahmad is an alias for a "Sheikh Syed", a 28-year old Pakistani former student at the London School of Economics who was released from an Indian prison in 1999 after being bartered for hostages taken in an airline hijacking that was "strikingly similar to the four hijackings carried out on September 11." Ressa also links "Syed" (hereafter known as Omar Saeed) to the October 1 attack on the Kashmiri legislature.
The invasion of Afghanistan begins.
Pakistani ISI General Mahmud Ahmad (not to be confused with the 9/11 paymaster alias "Mustafa Ahmad") is suddenly dismissed by Pakistani President Musharraf.
October 9, 2001:
A blogger here sent me a tip, which I haven't seen anywhere else. You guys should check it out, too.
Well here it is:
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Representative Dennis Kucinich's Articles of Impeachment against President George W. Bush represent a major achievement for the 9/11 Truth Movement.
While Kucinich cannot prosecute the case alone, and the Democrats have betrayed us once again, the fact of these charges being read on the floor of the House of Representatives is legitimizing and bolsters our image.
We should reference these charges and others. They are proven beyond any reasonable doubt, and they are criminal acts.
Ask the debunkers why the white house does not have any accountability for criminal acts such as these. If a common citizen runs a red light, they will be punished if seen by law enforcement. Why should the top of the government have a different set of rules, a game without the risk of any punishment? That is a prescription for a fascist tyranny, and not for a democratic republic. If the citizens are required to abide the law, then the government must also. On what basis can that be argued against?