This guy bashes 9/11 truth about halfway down into the article.
Can science silence the doubters on David Kelly?
Baseless conspiracy theories are a sadly inevitable side-effect of the kind of sceptical inquiry we really need
- guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 26 October 2010 17.05 BST .
Bush phone call Giuliani & Pataki, ABC, 10:59, 9/13
Bush press conference, ABC, 11:06, 9/13
"First let me condition the press this way. Any sources and methods of intelligence will remain guarded in secret. My administration will not talk about how we gather intelligence, if we gather intelligence and what the intelligence says. That's for the protection of the American people. It is important as we battle this enemy"
Good riddance to a steaming pile of dog excrement.
Now let's put this fucking terrorist on trial.
Florida free-fall sends Giuliani from hero to zero
Jan 30 02:36 AM US/Eastern
Giuliani Concedes Florida To McCain
McCain Takes Florida: ‘It’s a Very Significant Boost’
Rudolph Giuliani's plummet from soaring Republican front-runner, to humiliated White House also-ran, ranks as one of the most spectacular flame-outs in US election history.
The hero of the September 11 attacks in 2001, dubbed "America's Mayor," and former mafia scourge splashed around 50 million dollars in his campaign -- but saw his chances slide as soon as first nominating votes were cast.
The long day was Giuliani's crucible -- a moment that showed his mettle and humanity under extreme pressure. Despite the heroic actions of hundreds of firefighters and police, it was also a public- safety meltdown caused not only by the streaking suicide planes, but in part because of lapses that occurred on Giuliani's watch.
He had outfitted his firefighters with flame-retardant gear, but their patchwork radio system sent many urgent evacuation calls vanishing into the ether. His trek through the rain of rubble to secure a temporary command center showed poise. But coordination between his field commanders was sporadic, and there was no backup for the shattered nerve center he had built in the tower complex.
US presidential hopefuls 'wrong' to play 9/11 card
"More than six years after the terrorist attacks on the United States, September 11 is playing a major role in the 2008 race for the White House. New York's mayor on that day, current Republican front-runner Rudy Giuliani, is touting his response to the attacks as an example of his ability to lead during a time of crisis. But a small group of firefighters and their families say they are appalled that the presidential contender is playing the 9/11 card."
"But Mr Giuliani is not the only presidential candidate who refers to September 11. New York Senator Hillary Clinton has woven it into her campaign ads too. She stood by Ground Zero workers who sacrificed their health after so many sacrificed their lives and kept," one campaign ad said."
"But a 10-member strong group of firefighters and their families are accusing Mr Giuliani of using those deaths to advance his presidential ambitions.
Jim Riches is the New York Fire Department's deputy chief, and his firefighter son Jimmy was killed on September 11. Mr Riches says lives were lost because Mr Giuliani did not provide firefighters with adequate radios. "He's politicised 9/11 from day one," he said. "He's made millions, tens of millions of dollars speaking about 9/11, when the only thing he did that day was get on TV, calm the nation and tell everybody everything would be all right and we'd pull through this. That's all he did." His group is now raising money to run TV ads against the former mayor in Iowa and New Hampshire - the two states which kick off the presidential nomination race. "We are trying to let everybody know exactly what happened that day, to set the record straight on 9/11 that this man was no hero," he added."
9/11 group mulls anti-Giuliani campaign
NEW YORK, Nov. 17 (UPI) --
New York firefighters and families who lost relatives on Sept. 11, 2001, are considering campaigning against presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani.
They are considering forming a 527 committee that would run issue ads on the terrorist attacks, ABC News reported. Some of those affected by the attacks believe the former New York mayor is exploiting them in his presidential campaign.
"TV made him a hero, and we'll use TV to take him down," said New York Fire Chief Jim Riches, whose son was killed at the World Trade Center. "We don't want him running on 9/11 or the bodies of all these dead people or my dead son saying that he did a great job that day."
Riches and other members of the group plan to meet Monday at Dartmouth College in Hanover, N.H., taking their message to the state that holds the first primary.
"To know that we had failing radios in 1993 and did virtually nothing until September 11 is shocking to say the least," said Gioia [New York City Councilman Eric Gioia]. "To watch this documentary and see the important questions that were asked and seemingly unanswered and ignored for so many years, it's disturbing."
Giuliani Faces Investigation Of 9/11 Radios
The Huffington Post
November 1, 2007 10:10 AM
In the midst of his presidential candidacy, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani now faces a looming government investigation into his handling of the radios used by firefighters on 9/11.
The investigation, which will examine how the FDNY ended up using faulty equipment during the terrorist attacks and why Giuliani gave a no-bid contract to Motorola for that equipment, has been endorsed by New York City Councilman Eric Gioia, chair of the city's oversight and investigations committee.
"From this day forward, EVERY person running against Rudy Giuliani can point out how most people at Yankee Stadium resoundedly booed Rudy Giuliani. If you are Joe Six Pack or Jane Housewife going about your daily life in Missouri, you are smart enough to realize that if the people at Yankee Stadium are booing Rudy Giuliani, they must know something that the media isn't telling you. After 3 more seconds of thought, Joe Six Pack and Jane Housewife make the connection that Rudy Giuliani is not a 9/11 Hero but that he did some awful things regarding 9/11. And even if Joe Six Pack or Jane Housewife agree with Rudy Giuliani 95% of the time, Giuliani just lost their vote, even if he attains the general nomination and faces Hillary Clinton.
The people of New York City booed Rudy Giuliani because they know what a scumbag he truly is. Giuliani couldn't get elected dogcatcher in New York City today unless the only other candidate running was named Michael Vick.
TulsaTruth.org confronts Giuliani at Steak Stuffers in Tulsa on 9/14/07. Simple questions deserve simple answers but Giuliani can only ignore our presence.
Giuliani warned about World Trade Center collapse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLNtvOKdjsE
Fire Fighter Union warns against Giuliani ,the urban legend, and his lack of leadership: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaCYEEO-58I
Potholes filled with 9/11 remains: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoPY4Ntob24
Giuliani and the toxic dust: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYFbz0hHeJw
Full credit for catching this goes to boloboffin at Democratic Underground.
(Thanks to Jack for sending this in)
On the stump, Rudy can't help spreading smoke and ashes about his lousy record
by Wayne Barrett
with special research assistance by Alexandra Kahan
August 7th, 2007 9:44 PM
Nearly six years after 9/11, Rudy Giuliani is still walking through the canyons of lower Manhattan, covered in soot, pointing north, and leading the nation out of danger's way. The Republican frontrunner is campaigning for president by evoking that visual at every campaign stop, and he apparently believes it's a picture worth thousands of nights in the White House.
Giuliani has been leading the Republican pack for seven months, and predictions that the party's evangelicals would turn on him have so far proven hollow. The religious right appears as gripped by the Giuliani story as the rest of the country.
JULY 11, 2007 HARDBALL
IAFF rips Giuliani on Chris Matthew's show Hardball.
Thanks to Christine for this submission, notice the contact information at the end of the article:
Firefighters' criticism deemed "factually questionable"
When the International Association of Fire Fighters, the nation's largest firefighters union, released a video on July 12 challenging the portrayal of former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani as a hero of the September 11, 2001 terror attacks, New York Times reporter Marc Santora rushed to put out the anti-Giuliani fire. His July 12 story's lead cast doubt on the accuracy of the group's claims, calling the video "at times factually questionable."
The IAFF does not delve into 9/11 Truth, however, anything that keeps Giuliani from being the President is probably a good thing. There are no doubt many "facts" in this video that many visiting this site will disagree with. I encourage you to communicate your concerns to the IAFF. -r.
Giuliani Bungled Preparation in Years After 1993 Attack on Trade Center.
Critical failures by former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani before, during and after the terrorist attack on September 11, 2001, raise serious questions about his ability to be commander-in-chief.
Giuliani Acknowledged Explosions on 9/11, Didn't Believe They Were 'Gas Related'
YouTube | June 26, 2007
This clip is from Fox News on September 11, 2001, and is from a Press Conference given by Mayor Giuliani. In the clip, Mayor Giuliani states that he does not believe gas is responsible for the explosions being reported, and emphasizes that the gas has been turned off.
"GOP frontrunner Rudy Giuliani is hoping to ride his 9/11 experience straight into the White House. But while "America's Mayor" is playing well in New Hampshire, New Yorkers directly impacted by the World Trade Center tragedy are less convinced.
In a recent New York Daily News poll, New Yorkers said they favor current mayor Michael Bloomberg, who hasn't declared his candidacy, over "America's Mayor" by almost 2 to 1.
9/11 families jeer Rudy - Protesters say he’s not fit for White House
9/11 first responsders and victim's family members had this to say as they protested outside a recent campaign event for "America's Mayor"
“He pretended he was a leader on 9/11 and he ran, and then failed to provide the workers (at Ground Zero) with adequate protection from respiratory disease,” Ansbro charged. ”If he’s so prepared for terrorism, how come it took him a week to get basic respirators for the people that down there? And there was no enforcement on wearing them whatsoever.”
Sally Regenhart, whose firefighter son died at the World Trade Center, contended that one of the reasons so many firefighters died on 9/11 was the inadequacy of the radios they carried – a situation for which she blamed Giuliani.
This documentary examines Giuliani’s rise to power, his policies and his so-called turnaround of New York City. Interviewing journalists, ... all » activists, legal experts, and many of the city’s poor, “Giuliani Time” reveals that while the Mayor touted his Broken Windows, Quality of Life and Zero Tolerance policies, the reality on the streets was police brutality, violations of the First Amendment and racist actions.
Then 9/11 happened and Giuliani’s actions endeared him forever to Americans. Should we allow that to overshadow the darker moments of his administration?
FOX News Marginalizes Giuliani Critics And 9/11 Victims As “Campaign Crazies” And Democrat Kirsten Powers Helps
FOX puts its best (worst?) spin on Giuliani's WTC moment. The fact of the matter is, confronting "America's Mayor" with "America's Questions" is a winning tactic, and FOX can't handle the truth. The fact of the matter is, Giuliani's 9/11 campaign crutch is quite vulnerable, and confronting Giuliani with tough questions is a winner for 9/11 skeptics. So get your handycam and bust some moves. Have a follow-up question ready to roll, a good one might be, "Why didn't your administration ensure that the First Responders had the best radios that they could possibly have?" -r.
Reported by Ellen - June 1, 2007
A group of New York City firefighters and family members of 9/11 victims, upset with the faulty radios and what they called a lack of coordination at Ground Zero, have been protesting at Rudy Giuliani’s fundraisers in an effort to challenge his media image as a 9/11 hero. But rather than air the allegations in a fair and balanced forum, FOX News marginalized the critics as “campaign crazies” and equated them with a man who said he would never vote for Romney because he’s a Mormon. Sadly, “Democratic strategist” Kirstin Powers declined the opportunity to advocate for the other side. With video.
The discussion on last night's (5/31/07) Hannity & Colmes opened with Sean Hannity playing a clip of Romney politely approaching a potential constituent. “I’m one person who will never vote for a Mormon,” the man told Romney and refused to shake his hand. That was followed by a clip of Giuliani telling an unknown but aggressive questioner, “The fact is that I never realized the towers would collapse.” Hannity followed that up by repeating an old falsehood, that Republican guest Michael Steele “(was) hit with Oreo cookies” during a 2002 gubernatorial debate.
Powers seemed to have spent all her prep time on her appearance and none on any substantive issues. She either didn't know or didn't care that Hannity had just misrepresented the Oreo cookie incident. Her main interest seemed to be in flirting prettily with Hannity. She looked absolutely gorgeous but seemed to have nothing to say other than “this kind of stuff happens all the time on campaigns… A good politician, a good campaigner knows how to react.” It never seemed to have occurred to her that here was an opportunity to point out the vulnerabilities of a top Republican presidential candidate or even mention that there are plenty of real 9/11 heroes who take issue with Giuliani’s actions and his heroic image.
It was Alan Colmes who brought out the fact that Steele was not pelted with cookies but, as Steele later admitted, “when I looked at my feet, someone had rolled Oreo cookies in my direction.”
Colmes continued to make all the points Powers should have. He asked Steele, “What’s wrong with asking someone like Rudy Giuliani questions… there are some questions about, for example, the decision to put the emergency bunker on the 27th floor of the World Trade Center…. Those are legitimate questions to ask a candidate.” ...
It speakes for itself:
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An Open Letter to Chris Matthews & MSNBC regarding Rudy Giuliani**
*(PLEASE FORWARD TO Chuck Todd, Chris Matthews)
Kyle F. Hence
Co-Producer, 9/11: Press for Truth
On February 5th, Chris Matthews of Hardball on MSNBC claimed that Giuliani "made you feel like you had a right to walk the street safely." He added, "I think the country wants a boss like that, you know? A little bit of fascism there. Just a little bit. Just a pinch of it." http://mediamatters.org/items/200702070011?src=other
Now Tonight (May 16th) on Hardball Chuck Todd claimed that "Giuliani owns 9/11".
Dear Mr. Matthews and Company:
I'm at a loss as to which internationally televised statement is more absurd and irresponsible; that America needs "a little bit of fascism" a' la Giuliani or that Rudy Giuliani "owns 9/11."
What is clear is MSNBC's total failure or refusal to bring forward the facts about Rudy Giuliani's record before, during and after 9/11. If Rudy and the much replayed images of him walking dust covered in downtown streets have you under a spell it's well past time to break it. The man is running for President on a false 9/11 image not on his actual record, which is damning, if only you'd honestly examine it and bring guests on your shows who can credibly speak to it.
Rudy was amongst the dust of the fallen buildings and burning dead because he chose to place his emergency management bunker in the World Trade Center complex (WTC 7), a target in 1993, despite advice to place it elsewhere. And some of those dead were fire and police first responders who could not be reached with the radioed message to evacuate because Rudy's failure to force Motorola to deliver on a deal to provide the city with radios that actually worked. No wonder so many of the 9/11 families screamed, "talk about the radios" and halted the 9/11 Commission hearing at which not a single Commissioner asked Rudy about the radios. See: Radio Silence: The Betrayal of New York's Bravest
Rudy Giuliani, Republican candidate for President is calling for increased use of “electronic surveillance” and “interrogations” in the “War on Terror.”
It would seem clear from reports (Newsweek), that Giuliani has a clear motivation to keep domestic security in the publics mind, other than public safety.
"And he [has] been charging $100,000 a speech - $200,000 when he lingers for chitchat or a meal or two.
Yes, as the records now show, 9/11 has been very, very good to Rudy."
“In the new FEC filing from the Giuliani campaign, he put his personal assets in the $13-million to $66-million range, including his share of the Giuliani & Co. consulting firm. And most of the income, more than $11 million, came from speaking fees.”
Giuliani says that he was warned that WTC 2 was going to collapse.
Here is the 25 second clip:
ABC's Don Dahler reports that Giuliani evacuated north just before WTC 2 collapsed. 20 second video:
Giuliani admits that he was warned the WTC 2 was going to collapse and was seen evacuating just before it happened.
Here are 2 questions that people should ask Rudy Giuliani...
Who told him that WTC 2 was going to collapse?
While he was evacuation with his entourage, did he make any effort to warn any of the firemen and policemen?
Ask questions. Demand answers.
Giuliani starts talking around 10 minutes in, says some interesting things at the 16:16 mark. Thanks to Jerry/Kleetus for sending this in:
Fmr. Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) and former Mayor Ron Norick (R-OK) talked about how leadership and putting a plan in place helped their cities respond, recover, and rebuild from acts of terrorism. They focused on the successes but also on the challenges and obstacles encountered by both communities in order for their experiences to help other communities prepare for, and successfully recover from, large-scale disasters.
Giuliani obviously has no problem connecting the Virginia Tech shootings with the Oklahoma City Bombing and 9/11. How pathetic.
Giuliani: Nation learned from Okla. City
By TIM TALLEY, Associated Press Writer
Mourners on Thursday marked the 12th anniversary of the bombing that killed 168 people here by reaching out to victims of the Virginia Tech shootings and of violence everywhere.
Presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani told the crowd at the former site of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building that the response to the 1995 attack serves as an example to others recovering from violence.
The people of Oklahoma City "became a model of compassion and strength, both, a model that helped us several years later get through Sept. 11 and a model that will help the people of Virginia Tech get through the terrible agonies that they are going through right now," said Giuliani, who was New York's mayor during the 2001 terrorist attacks.
Critics want to mar his hero image and hobble his candidacy by questioning his moves.
By Peter Wallsten, Times Staff Writer
April 8, 2007
WASHINGTON — Many Americans know Rudolph W. Giuliani only from his performance in the smoke and ashes of the Sept. 11 attacks on New York — a steely image that has propelled him atop the polls in the race for the Republican presidential nomination.
Now, some groups at the center of the 9/11 experience are laying aggressive plans to tarnish that image and undermine the central pillar of his candidacy.
Officials from a national firefighters union, along with some relatives of Sept. 11 victims, say they will publicly attack decisions Giuliani made as New York mayor before and after the terrorist strikes.
While CNN's story about Giuliani doesn't get into most of the real issues regarding 9/11, including his possible foreknowledge of or role in the attacks, it does show that our leaders' actions on and after 9/11 are starting to be questioned and the phony "hero" veneer of our leaders in connection with 9/11 is starting to be challenged.
NEW YORK (AP) -- Rudy Giuliani's White House aspirations are inescapably tied to September 11, 2001 -- for better and for worse.
While the former mayor of the nation's largest city was widely lionized for his post-9/11 leadership -- "Churchillian" was one adjective, "America's mayor" was Oprah Winfrey's assessment -- city firefighters and their families are renewing their attacks on him for his performance before and after the terrorist attack.
"If Rudolph Giuliani was running on anything but 9/11, I would not speak out," said Sally Regenhard, whose firefighter son was among the 343 FDNY members killed in the terrorist attack. "If he ran on cleaning up Times Square, getting rid of squeegee men, lowering crime -- that's indisputable.
I was surprised this morning to find this piece on Yahoo news covering a very limited scope of questions that many of us have for Giuliani. The piece doesn't go into anything too provokative; indeed, it prefers to frame the debate around the bungled clean-up of Ground Zero.
The good side of this might be that our efforts are making a difference. Therefore, if the media is publishing questions being raised about 9-11 then it's still a positive development, even if the truly difficult questions are not being addressed.
"If Rudolph Giuliani was running on anything but 9/11, I would not speak out," said Sally Regenhard, whose firefighter son was among the 343 FDNY members killed in the terrorist attack. "If he ran on cleaning up Times Square, getting rid of squeegee men, lowering crime — that's indisputable.
"But when he runs on 9/11, I want the American people to know he was part of the problem."
This document, an 'oldie but goodie,' will remain timely as long as Rudi Giuliani lives. Who knows? If a Republican is elected President, Rudi may be appointed to some high Administration post.
The document comes from here, courtesy of Jon Gold
Statement and Questions Regarding the 9/11 Commission Interview of Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Members of his Administration
revised May 11, 2004
The Family Steering Committee is pleased that former Mayor Rudy Giuliani and members of his Administration will be giving sworn testimony before an audience of Families of 9/11 Victims and the American public.
Since the Commission is responsible for fulfilling the Congressional mandate to investigate all facts relating to 9/11, the following questions for the Giuliani Administration and the Port Authority of NY & NJ must be addressed at the May 18th –19th hearings in order to facilitate informed decisions and recommendations.