Today (4/25/07), during the 4 PM (ET) edition of The Situation Room, Cafferty asked the following question:
"Will 9/11 politics help or hurt Rudy Giuliani in the presidential race?"
Imagine my total shock when Cafferty (or one of his staff people) included the following reply among those to be read on the air (which Cafferty read first):
"The public is no longer fully convinced of the official story of 9/11. If Rudy expects to run on that story, he can expect incredulity. If the politics of fear is all he has, the public will abandon him in favor of politics of values, hope and truth. -- Michael"
There wasn't a peep out of Wolf Blitzer afterward.
Looks also like Giuliani has made a complete 180 when it comes to his position on the issue of the toxic WTC dust and how it has affected 9/11 first responders:
Apr 20, 2007 4:06 pm US/Eastern
Court Ruling May Stop 9/11 Air Quality Lawsuits
(CBS/AP) NEW YORK An appeals court ruling could spell trouble for New Yorkers suing the Environmental Protection Agency and its former chief for saying that sooty Lower Manhattan air was safe to breathe after the Sept. 11 terror attacks.
A three judge panel of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals declared this week that EPA Administrator Christine Todd Whitman and other agency officials can't be held constitutionally liable for making rosy declarations about air quality in the days following the World Trade Center's destruction.
The opinion, written by the court's chief judge, Dennis Jacobs, said opening EPA workers up to lawsuits for giving out bad information during a crisis could have a catastrophic side effect.
Only the use of thermite could = 6 weeks at 1500 degrees- why so hot Rudy?
From The Sunday Times
March 18, 2007
Firemen douse Rudy’s image as 9/11 hero
Union bid to halt White House run
Sarah Baxter, New York
FIRE battalion chief Jim Riches brought up his son to be one of New York’s “bravest”, like him. The young Jim followed his father into the New York fire department and died at the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001.
What followed turned his heartbroken father into a relentless opponent of Rudy Giuliani, then mayor of New York. With other families of 9/11 victims, Riches has vowed to torpedo Giuliani’s prospects of winning the White House by attacking his greatest source of strength, his reputation as a hero that day.
“We’re going to follow him around the country,” said Riches. “We want all of America to know he is not the man he says he is.”
FIREFIGHTERS RIP INTO RUDY
By MAGGIE HABERMAN
New York Post
March 9, 2007 -- The national firefighters union has drafted a blistering letter accusing White House hopeful Rudy Giuliani, whose candidacy is fueled by his 9/11 performance, of "disrespect" to FDNY members after the attacks.
The letter, drafted last week by the International Association of Fire Fighters but never released, lashes Giuliani for issues that include limiting the number of firefighters who could search for human remains at Ground Zero, and urges firefighters to say "hell no" to his candidacy.
The missive was written while the IAFF was debating inviting Giuliani to a presidential candidates' forum next week, which it eventually decided to do.
But Giuliani won't be attending because of "schedule conflicts," his aides said.
Team Giuliani countered with a statement from former firefighter Tim Brown, saying the former mayor is "honored by the support of so many first responders from across the country."
The flap came as rival Sen. John McCain hit Giuliani's turf last night, showcasing his moneyed New York-area supporters at a Town Hall-style fundraiser in Times Square.
The Firefighters' Union is holding a bipartisan election forum on March 14, 2007. They have invited several presidential candidates, but not Rudy Giuliani. Here is an excerpt of a statement+from+the+firefighters:
"His actions post 9/11 rise to such an offensive and personal attack on our brother and sisterhood — and directly on our union — that the IAFF does not feel Rudy Giuliani deserves an audience of IAFF leaders and members at our own Presidential Forum.
The disrespect that he exhibited to our 343 fallen FDNY brothers, their families and our New York City IAFF leadership in the wake of that tragic day has not been forgiven or forgotten.
Did anyone else catch this in New York Magazine's current issue?
“I knew what they were standing on top of,” Giuliani says. “They were standing on top of a cauldron. They were standing on top of fires 2,000 degrees that raged for a hundred days. And they put their lives at risk raising that flag.”
Maybe ask him how he knew the WTC tower was going to collapse, and admitted such on TV?
Or, if you prefer a more LIHOPish question, ask him about the faulty Motorola radios that probably cost the lives of over 300 firefighters.
If you're going to try to get through, you may have to disguise your question (or at least frame it in terms of his frequent invocations of 9/11). You should also have in front of you the actual transcript of what he said on 9/11:
By LIZ SIDOTI
WASHINGTON Feb 5, 2007 (AP)— Rudy Giuliani, the former New York City mayor whose popularity soared after his response to the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, moved closer to a full-fledged campaign for the Republican presidential nomination on Monday.
Bring it on, Rudy. Now 9/11 Truth can show up at every rally, speech, or barbecue you hold anywhere in America. More airtime for you, more airtime for us.
By+Philip+Elliott,+Associated+Press+Writer | January 26, 2007
BRETTON WOODS, N.H. --Rudy Guiliani's visit to New Hampshire began on Friday with Girl Scout cookie orders, Sept. 11 memories and no sign that the former New York City mayor's popularity has faded.
Giuliani, a Republican who is mulling a White House run, renewed his mantle, "America's Mayor" and reminded business leaders in New Hampshire's North Country that he shepherded New York through the aftermath of Sept. 11. Even when buying cookies, a Girl Scout told him her cousin died in Iraq. Over 400 people attended the event at the Mount Washington Hotel, organizers said....
Throughout his remarks, he repeatedly returned to Sept. 11, even when mentioning immigration reform....
Journalist Wayne Barrett discussed Rudy Giuliani's run for president and his performance on 9/11, on+Democracy+Now+yesterday. From the transcript:
"I can tell you, having just written the book, about Giuliani's performance on 9/11, that there’s a lot of 9/11 families who are outraged by his performance. You don't have to rely on me. Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton, in their own book, which came out simultaneous with mine, reported that the biggest failing of the 9/11 Commission was how they treated Giuliani at that May 2004 hearing, where they gave him a pass on every question, let him tell the same anecdotal speech he usually gets paid $100,000 to tell. And so, they said that because the families were so outraged at the pass that he was given -- and they wrote this in their own book -- they cancelled the buses to the final hearing in July or June in 2004 down in Washington. Hundreds of families that were expected to go cancelled, because they were so offended by the way in which the 9/11 Commission treated the families.
Rudy has, I’m sure, some families he can turn to that will support him for president. But there are many families who I’ve talked to in the course of reporting this book who were outraged by his performance. I mean, the city was about as prepared for that attack, despite the 1993 bombing, as apparently the Giuliani campaign was prepared for some sort of a security leak from their campaign."
*** Begin Transcript of Rudy Giuliani Being Interviewed By Peter Jennings of ABC News:
Giuliani: What's going on now is a massive rescue effort.
Jennings: Do you believe it's hundreds or thousands? [Referring to potential casualties trapped inside the towers]
Giuliani: I, I, I really, I really... I really don't want to say right now Peter, I, I think it's gonna be... a hori, a horrible number. I saw people jumping out of the World Trade Center. I saw some of the fire fighters who I know going into the building. So, we were in a building in which we were trapped for about ten, fifteen minutes... and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley Street which was right there with the police commissioner and the fire commissioner... and the head of emergency management... and we were operating out of there, when WE WERE TOLD THE WORLD TRADE CENTER WAS GOING TO COLLAPSE. [Emphasis mine]
*** End Transcript.
*** Begin My Questions for Rudy Giuliani, Concerning 9/11/01:
-Mr. Giuliani, who told you the World Trade Center was going to collapse?
-Exactly how did your source know that the WTC was going to collapse? [Especially considering NO steel and concrete building had ever collapsed due to fire, EVER!]
"It's clearly laid out in 140 pages of printed text, handwriting and spreadsheets: The top-secret plan for Rudy Giuliani's bid for the White House.
The remarkably detailed dossier sets out the budgets, schedules and fund-raising plans that will underpin the former New York mayor's presidential campaign - as well as his aides' worries that personal and political baggage could scuttle his run."
Apparently, the leak may be tied to Giuliani's poll numbers early in the GOP race:
"Giuliani leads most public opinion polls of Republican primary voters though he has not announced his candidacy for President. But the dossier, which envisions spending more than $21 million this year alone, shows that Giuliani began meeting with potential supporters last April and that by October, his staff had put in place a detailed plan for a serious bid for the presidency. But they also depict a candidate torn between his prosperous business and a political future full of both promise and risk."
The Giuliani team does not see 9/11 or his screwing of the FDNY as problematic:
"On the same page is a list of the candidate's central problems in bullet-point form: his private sector business; disgraced former aide Bernard Kerik; his third wife, Judith Nathan Giuliani; "social issues," on which is he is more liberal than most Republicans, and his former wife Donna Hanover."
Transportation Commissioner Iris Weinshall said that "specifically on terrorist attacks, there was no sense of awareness" at the highest levels of the administration and "no discussion of the WTC."
Asked if the '93 bombing ever came up, Weinshall, who later became transportation commissioner, said, 'No. Isn't that odd?"
From Wayne Barret, "Grand Illusion", page 106ff
Now, what does this mean? We have Mr. Law & Order, who profited from the fear back than and now with his career and business,
and hell, he does not even adress the FBI WTC93 terror attack at any time in his term?
There are two possibilities: He is so incompetent that he just forgot to adress this issue (this little WTC bombing only killed 6 and injured about 1000 people)
Or: He was on this from the beginning, no need to adress the terror.
Whatever. It fits to the same pattern we could see everywhere when it comes to terror and its investigation before 2001.
RUDY'S ANGELS OF 9/11
EYES SUPPORT FOR '08
By MAGGIE HABERMAN
December 27, 2006 -- Supporters of former Mayor Rudy Giuliani have started discussions with relatives of 9/11 victims about backing him if he runs for president in 2008, some family members told The Post.
The conversations have taken place in recent weeks, according to some victims' families, who described the talks as "casual."
Marian Fontana, who lost her firefighter husband on 9/11, said she got an invitation to go to a Giuliani exploratory committee dinner last week from a former firefighter working with Giuliani's committee. She described the invite as "last-minute."
Fontana said she was appreciative of what Giuliani did after 9/11, but would want to know a lot more about any candidate's stand on a variety of issues.
"I feel like I'm not ready to endorse," said Fontana, who added, "I could see why [Giuliani supporters] would want to reach out to family members."
Lee Ielpi, a former firefighter who lost his son in the attacks, said he discussed backing the former mayor with Larry Levy.