Some persons have dodged truth movement problems by exaggerating the amount of scientific expertise needed to ponder them. Even in relatively advanced truth movement products are problems (for the media and government) that are found via simple methods, e.g. just reading the official reports. Lets consider naming explicitly varied categories of problems according to how simple were the methods used to see them.

Does this give anyone any ideas? http://www.dump.com/2010/12/11/bullet-physics-engine-simulates-the-creat...

The area under the impact seems incredibly resistant to collapse, unlike WTC 1 & 2 ; (would've liked to see the ball hit higher up)

Someone contact these guys and get them to do a simulation of the WTC'ers!

Looking through the video from the batch newly released from NIST. Here is a clip titled “NBC News Dub_clip16A” in a folder titled “NBC_News Dub from Jim Remberg.” In the middle of a TV interview, the first Tower collapses. The reporter immediately refers to hearing an explosion and “the reverberations” from that explosion. He repeats this multiple times, and at the end he says that he’s two blocks away and he clearly felt the reverberations. Would you really feel “reverberations” from a gravitational collapse two blocks away? Match that with my previous video here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOLsM6BS2r0) in which you can hear a distinct explosion before/just as the collapse occurs.

I noticed something in one of my previous clips (Jim Huibregtse clip_15B) that I thought was interesting. This is a zoomed-in view (and then slowed down) of the pyroclastic flow generated by the collapse of the South Tower. I added two red dots to help you locate two distinct 'white trail' ejections (see my earlier posts on white trails coming from the building pre-collapse) coming out of the pyroclastic flow. Do you see them? That seems odd, no? More thermitic reactions post-collapse?

Looking through the newly released batch of videos from NIST and I found some interesting stuff in the folder "Richard Peskin." I have a edited together bits from four of the clips in that folder where you can hear what sound like explosions (after both towers have fallen), and the videographer (presumably Richard Peskin) saying that he's heard even more. They seem to be located around... Building 7. It all starts moments after the second tower collapsed.

The files I used were: Peskin 25.avi, Peskin 28.avi, Peskin 29.avi, and Peskin 30.avi.

Video: Because it can never be repeated enough – 9/11 Experiments – Collapse vs. Demolition

Posted by sakerfa on June 20, 2010

9/11 Experiments: Collapse vs. Demolition ~ Part 1 of 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww8hBFNY8jk

9/11 Experiments: Collapse vs. Demolition ~ Part 2 of 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgZLXI3whGA

The Ultimate proof NIST is lying about WTC7 Over 1,000 Professional Architects and Engineers agree that the mysterious collapses of WTC Building 7 and the Twin Towers on 9/11/01 need to be re-examined and investigated. The NIST report is proven to be unscientific and false, using evidence NIST either ignored or gathered and used itself. I used the public domain video created by NIST, available here: http://www.youtube.com/user/usnistgov http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK_iBYSqEsc Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth: http://www.ae911truth.org FireFighters for 9/11 Truth: NFPA 921 on High Order Damage: http://firefightersfor911truth.org/?p=221 Shear Studs: A Case Study: http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/sixty-state-street/constru... Van Ramiro's SuperThermite experiment was courtesy of Jesse Ventura's "Conspiracy Theory" TV Show on TruTv (formerly CourtTV) from Episode 2 on 9/11 Conspiracy Theories.

This is the ads they put on trains in Japan,

Left in white letters with black(and partially with red) in the back says:

"Now unravelling - 9/11 NY Terror Mystery"

A lot of the explanations and arguments in favour of the controlled demolition theory (CDT) is a bit heavy and requires a great amount of scientific reasoning, witch can lead to failure of the implications to really sink in and be integrated. I for one, finds it difficult to use the more scientific arguments in an improvised ad hoc discussion, because I just barely understands it when I get it explained myself. Therefore I find it very usefull and productive to find some laymans arguments, that even a child can understand and use.

To make a challange out of it, I will try with the most non-appealing case - WTC2.

The axis (nose) of A11 impacted the exact center of the north wall with some 1m accuracy. The impact speed was 220m/s, the downward angle was approximately 4°, while the lateral angle was less than 3°.

This analysis is based on the visible north face damage and video evidence.

The first picture reflects the upward wing flexing.

See the original for links.

15 Signs American Society Is Coming Apart at the Seams
By David DeGraw, Amped Status
Posted on November 21, 2009, Printed on November 21, 2009
http://www.alternet.org/story/144109/

Editor's note: The following is an edited excerpt from the Amped Status report, "The Critical Unraveling of U.S. Society."

The economic elite have launched an attack on the U.S. public and society is unraveling at an increased rate. You may have missed it in the mainstream news media, but statistical societal indicators are reading red across the board. Let’s look at the top 15 statistics that prove we are under attack.

1) The inequality of wealth in the United States is soaring to an unprecedented level. The U.S. already had the highest inequality of wealth in the industrialized world prior to the financial crisis. Since the crisis, which has hit the middle class and poor much harder than the top 1 percent, the gap between the top 1 percent and the remaining 99 percent of the U.S. population has grown to a record high.

The language of deception is used against us every day and most of us don’t even realize it has been done to us or realize the devastating effect it has on us. My task here is to expose some of the subtle deceptions hidden within the terminology we in the 9/11 truth movement use every day. My goal is to shine a light on the subtle deceptions that pass under our radar every day and to counter those deceptions with the language of truth.

First we have to consider how we in the 9/11 truth movement describe what happened to the World Trade Center (WTC)? The question is, should we say that WTC 1, 2, and 7 “collapsed” or should we say they were “demolished” and does it really matter all that much? At first glance it may not seem to be a particularly important question as to which word we use. I will expose however that it is, in fact, very important which word we use. Furthermore I want to reveal how and why the debate has been framed from the beginning by our opponents with the endlessly repeated use of just one simple word, “collapsed”.

** I thought steel & concrete buildings spontaneously turn to dust, from top to bottom @ 10 floors per second, straight down into a nice neat little pile when they unexpectedly collapse--just like 3 of them did in NY on 9/11? Oh well, those are the arbitrary laws of physics for ya! [/sarcasm] **
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Entire New 13-Story Building Tips Over in Shanghai

This past Saturday, an entire apartment building in Shanghai collapsed. To be fair, the building was under construction and thus unoccupied, but it's still a minor miracle that there was only one fatality.

Sounds like there was a problem with some nearby flood prevention walls at the Dianpu River, but there's no hard evidence as to why this huge building simply fell over. Anyway, here are some sweet pictures of the architectural carnage.
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MORE Must SEE Photos here: http://gizmodo.com/5304233/entire-new-13+story-building-tips-over-in-sha...

I wonder why there is no neat little pile of rubble and a bunch of dust..... hmmmmm

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-06/27/content_8330067.htm

Ok,experiment is a basic element of modern science.In order to scientificaly prove a controlled demolition of WTC 1,2,7 we have to create a theory on the exact method,which was used to bring them down and than test it with (repetebale) experiment.

I (with large influence from achimspok's work) did a theory on the precollapse weakening and initiation of the (Twin Towers collapses).I've described it in my previous posts,but a little bit of recapitulation isn't gonna to do any damage.

So what caused the precollapse bowing of the exterior walls of WTC 1 and 2?Most probably thermite charges which were placed mainly at the 104th,105th and 106th floor.This charges attacked mainly the 1000 and 900 row core columns.(I'm not claiming that this was all,maybe there were other attacked points of the structure,but I'm absolutely sure only about these points)

Wanna prove?

Astonishing fireballs,directed arson and insight in the preparator's mind.

Note:

This is my third post here,it's part of my tetralogy on WTC 1 and 2 collapses,the first post http://911blogger.com/node/18972 tried explain why NIST failed to properly address the precollapse inward bowing,the second post http://911blogger.com/node/19036 describes what really lead to the inward bowing,and the third post will be about immediate seconds before and after the collapse initiations)

Let me start with this basic premise:

9/11 was an shock and awe campaign.Let me to guide you through possible thoughts of the World Trade Center demolition preparators and try to compare the outcome with reality.This time I will not offer you „hard physical“ evidence,I'll show you a logical frame.

Let's start with this amazing photo

Do you think this is some kind of joke or game? WTF is up with the videos being released with edits at "crucial" moments and sound being removed. The Bob and Bri vid and a couple other releases show this same pattern which leads many to suspect the vids are being fed into the system by nefarious forces.

Does a person actually think that by releasing a video as "anonymous" on a video upload site that they are actually hidden from the forces that carried out 9/11, or are they hiding from the public?

I call on anybody who has any video to stand up and show some God damn balls and release "UNEDITED" videos instead of this chopped up malarkey that has been choice fed to us. If you don't have the guts or the knowhow to upload, then send the damn thing to someone who does...

But for God's sake, for everyone's sake....quit with the games already!

An anonymous source has released high resolution DVD mpg2 footage of the North Tower & Building 7 collapse clips, reported here on November 1st, 2008: http://www.911blogger.com/node/18358 Also the source has allowed the release of video of the South Tower, and made all 3 available in high quality downloadable DVD file mpg's. These files are cut from source recording DVD VOB files so there is no quality loss, however the sound has been removed, and the video is edited. The source wishes to remain anonymous at this point. View all 3 clips here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lrTy5mrZY

Hi Quality DVD files at these links.
South Tower: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=67PMXROL
North Tower: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YS0XHA8B

SEPTEMBER 11th WAS AN INSIDE JOB!

BTW, has anyone taped and uploaded the performance at the Now or Never event in NYC on 12th last month?

Do you work in a large office building? Then you should know about this recently discovered flaw in ALL EXISTING BUILDING CODES AND FIRE REGULATIONS that could cause the complete collapse of your office building. For more information on this phenonmenon, please email NIST at wtc@nist.gov

Source: http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/wtc082108.html

NIST WTC 7 Investigation Finds Building Fires Caused Collapse
Report and Recommendations for Improving Building Safety Released for Comment

August 21, 2008

CONTACT: Ben Stein, NIST
(301) 975-3097
ben.stein@nist.gov

Michael Newman , NIST
(301) 975-3025
mnewman@nist.gov

GAITHERSBURG, Md.—The fall of the 47-story World Trade Center building 7 (WTC 7) in New York City late in the afternoon of Sept. 11, 2001, was primarily due to fires, the Commerce Department’s National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) announced today following an extensive, three-year scientific and technical building and fire safety investigation. This was the first known instance of fire causing the total collapse of a tall building, the agency stated as it released for public comment its WTC investigation report and 13 recommendations for improving building and fire safety.

Perth Citizens for Truth
http://9-11.meetup.com/332/files/
Article PDF at:
http://files.meetup.com/562554/911%20and%20Probability%20Theory.pdf

9/11 and Probability Theory

Frank M Legge (BSc, PhD)
10 June, 2008

Introduction

There have been a number of authors who have drawn attention to the improbability of certain reported events that led up to the disaster that has become known as 9/11, in which three major buildings at the World Trade Centre collapsed with heavy loss of life. Both Boolean algebra and probability theory have been invoked as a means of estimating the likelihood that the official explanation of the event as a whole can be relied upon. (1)
The official explanation for the building collapses may be distilled from the reports of the investigations carried out by three government bodies: FEMA, (2) NIST (3) and the 9/11 Commission. (4)

At 11:07 a.m. in the morning of September 11, 2001, a CNN correspondent in New York reported that a third tower had possibly collapsed. While this report was incorrect, it is interesting to note that the reporter's description could have applied to World Trade Center Building 7. This huge skyscraper was indeed the third tower to collapse on 9/11. However it did not come down until late in the afternoon, more than six hours after this report.

"Inside 9/11" is an Emmy winning documentary made by the National Geographic Channel. The film goes through the events of 9/11 chronologically.

Even though the film itself is two hours long, it doesn't mention Building 7 even once, as you'll see in this video clip.

Direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCOVVl6e2Lc

The program doesn't bother to mention either the collapse or the building itself. Instead it skips straight from the North Tower collapse (10:30 AM) to 8:30 PM.

It seems just like the 9/11 Commission Report, Building 7 fails to turn up.

You can view the whole film below:

Direct link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6666420467125611107

Raw CBS news feed from September 11/01....no spinning graphics, flashy text, dramatic music or talking points. (Warning: some profanity can be heard.)

I have been spending the last few hours trying to come up with a way to compare the explosive forces between the '93 bomb and the plane impacts of 2001. However, my lack of expertise in this area of physics, pertaining to kinetic energy, explosive force, pressure, etc. is preventing me from making any sort of informed conclusion. On the other hand the information I have gathered suggests ( and I use that term lightly) that a bomb ( on the order of magnitude used in the '93 bombings: The bomb exploded in the underground garage at 12:17 P.M., generating a pressure estimated over one GPa (Giga Pascal) and opening a 30-meter-wide (98 foot) hole through four sublevels of concrete. The detonation velocity of this bomb was about 15,000 ft/s (4.5 km/s). Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_1993_bombings#Bomb_chara...) planted in the sub-level basement (which houses the critical main support for the tower) had a much larger probability of collapsing the building than an impact of a 767 carrying 10,000 gallons of jet fuel nearly 1,000 feet up from the basement.

Verisimilitude: 1 : having the appearance of truth : PROBABLE
2 : depicting realism (as in art or literature)

Here is my breakdown of what I hoped to do with this collection of films...

Found this at ICH, I thought it was to good to be missing from 911-blogger ..
Original article HERE :
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18344.htm

Science in the Bush: When Politics Displaces Physics

By Dr. Crockett Grabbe and Lenny Charles

09/08/07 "ICH" -- -- The majority of us accept as fact that the current administration manipulates science for political ends. Few were surprised to hear experts from industry challenge overwhelming evidence of man-made climate change. Frustration within the scientific community had grown so much that by Dec. 2006 more than 10,000 scientists, including 52 Nobel laureates and 63 recipients of the National Medal of Science, had signed a statement accusing the Bush administration of "distortion of scientific knowledge for partisan political ends".

Scientific integrity within the administration has often not been rewarded. Recently fired US surgeon general Richard Carmona said after leaving, "In public health, as in a democracy, there is nothing worse than ignoring science, or marginalizing the voice of science for reasons driven by changing political winds."